From napalmllama at gmail.com  Mon Jun  3 07:52:41 2013
From: napalmllama at gmail.com (Tom Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:52:41 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Social Meal Tonight
Message-ID: <CAF85AwXhniuLcW=1gdorPVPvf6HqfYAcR_aDqxJFfdr6A+bY8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Morning everyone,

We're meeting *this evening* at *7 PM, at Cosmo in central Swansea*.  It's
near the castle, on the stretch of road between Wind St. and High St.
Parking in nearby Park Tawe is free for 3 hours.

Only three people actually confimed their attendance, so I haven't booked a
table:  I assume more than this will actually turn up, so hopefully the
restaurant will have space, or we'll go somewhere else.  If this happens
we'll wait until 7:20 for stragglers to turn up before moving on.

See you all this evening,
Tom Lloyd
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From oliver at oliverjenkins.com  Wed Jun  5 15:19:25 2013
From: oliver at oliverjenkins.com (oliver Oliver)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:19:25 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hello all
Message-ID: <CAGBYjY5gG-=KTA=yE6V=cutJHrUf2P42xGrrsZz43GrPBBQSUw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

I'll be moving back home to Swansea in August and thought I'd say hello.
 I've been working in eCommerce for 14 off and on years.  Been playing
around with hardware and various toys most of my life.

This project to start a Hackspace looks really good.  So once I'm settled I
will hopefully get to meet a few (and try to help out).

Some of my projects can be seen on my website if anybody is interested.

Cheers

Oliver
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From napalmllama at gmail.com  Thu Jun  6 10:30:17 2013
From: napalmllama at gmail.com (Tom Lloyd)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:30:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hello all
In-Reply-To: <CAGBYjY5gG-=KTA=yE6V=cutJHrUf2P42xGrrsZz43GrPBBQSUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGBYjY5gG-=KTA=yE6V=cutJHrUf2P42xGrrsZz43GrPBBQSUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF85AwXeyj7qvVKbHHmFS2=H=g7_stwcbnhH=B3YqESotUa05g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Oliver, and wecome to the list.

We're only just getting going, and don't have a permanent space yet, but
we're meeting twice a week to share ideas, discuss technologies and
generally get more acquainted with one another.  The exact location of our
next meeting isn't confirmed yet, but it'll be somewhere in Swansea
University, in the evening of Monday 17th.  Hopefully we'll see you there!
If there's anything you want to know then just get in touch and someone
should help you out.

All the best,
Tom Lloyd


On 5 June 2013 15:19, oliver Oliver <oliver at oliverjenkins.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I'll be moving back home to Swansea in August and thought I'd say hello.
>  I've been working in eCommerce for 14 off and on years.  Been playing
> around with hardware and various toys most of my life.
>
> This project to start a Hackspace looks really good.  So once I'm settled
> I will hopefully get to meet a few (and try to help out).
>
> Some of my projects can be seen on my website if anybody is interested.
>
> Cheers
>
> Oliver
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Thu Jun  6 10:43:13 2013
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (Tom Lake)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:43:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hello all
In-Reply-To: <CAF85AwXeyj7qvVKbHHmFS2=H=g7_stwcbnhH=B3YqESotUa05g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGBYjY5gG-=KTA=yE6V=cutJHrUf2P42xGrrsZz43GrPBBQSUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF85AwXeyj7qvVKbHHmFS2=H=g7_stwcbnhH=B3YqESotUa05g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51B059B1.4000406@sucs.org>



On 06/06/2013 10:30, Tom Lloyd wrote:
> we're meeting twice a week to share ideas, discuss technologies and
> generally get more acquainted with one another.
Tom: I think you meant every two weeks, unless I've missed something?

Oliver: Hope to see you at one of our future meetings :)

- Tom



From napalmllama at gmail.com  Thu Jun  6 11:22:36 2013
From: napalmllama at gmail.com (Tom Lloyd)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:22:36 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hello all
In-Reply-To: <51B059B1.4000406@sucs.org>
References: <CAGBYjY5gG-=KTA=yE6V=cutJHrUf2P42xGrrsZz43GrPBBQSUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF85AwXeyj7qvVKbHHmFS2=H=g7_stwcbnhH=B3YqESotUa05g@mail.gmail.com>
	<51B059B1.4000406@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <CAF85AwXHDFZju_c5edEWx0bG-qA97u3MwN2YbU8zgF+NvJTsgw@mail.gmail.com>

My bad, every two weeks is right :)


On 6 June 2013 10:43, Tom Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 06/06/2013 10:30, Tom Lloyd wrote:
>
>> we're meeting twice a week to share ideas, discuss technologies and
>> generally get more acquainted with one another.
>>
> Tom: I think you meant every two weeks, unless I've missed something?
>
> Oliver: Hope to see you at one of our future meetings :)
>
> - Tom
>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.**org.uk <Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> http://stoneship.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hackspace<http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Fri Jun  7 11:11:50 2013
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:11:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <2127738819.3292121.1370599910032.JavaMail.app@ela4-app0135.prod>

LinkedIn
------------



I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Ceri

Ceri Clatworthy
Electronics & Software Development at Cellnovo Ltd
Swansea, United Kingdom

Confirm that you know Ceri Clatworthy:
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From grepwood at sucs.org  Fri Jun  7 12:08:07 2013
From: grepwood at sucs.org (Michael Dec)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:08:07 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Looking for testers
Message-ID: <acb2bdd13544db4c45c12e09a4d9ad47@sucs.org>

Dear Hackspace subscribers,

I have recently ported a game to PS3. My consoles aren't jailbreaked 
though, and the one that used to is still undergoing repairs, so I can't 
test what I've built. I'm looking forward to hear from owners of 
jailbreaked PS3s, so that I could polish up the port and release it as a 
ready-to-use product.
As of now, the game is freshly recompiled from its PC codebase and will 
likely require a file manager to supply art assets into it.

Yours truly,
Michael Dec



From oliver at oliverjenkins.com  Fri Jun  7 20:29:14 2013
From: oliver at oliverjenkins.com (oliver Oliver)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:29:14 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hello all
In-Reply-To: <CAF85AwXHDFZju_c5edEWx0bG-qA97u3MwN2YbU8zgF+NvJTsgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGBYjY5gG-=KTA=yE6V=cutJHrUf2P42xGrrsZz43GrPBBQSUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF85AwXeyj7qvVKbHHmFS2=H=g7_stwcbnhH=B3YqESotUa05g@mail.gmail.com>
	<51B059B1.4000406@sucs.org>
	<CAF85AwXHDFZju_c5edEWx0bG-qA97u3MwN2YbU8zgF+NvJTsgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGBYjY79SqCEO1DW99PD9Y_+ds0m0zft63TY=tDLGnfi9wwE+w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks guys. I'm moving back in August, so won't be able to make an
appearance until then.  Having no space yet doesn't bother me, I'm just
looking to have a chat with like-minded people.

Actually, I think this stage is probably the most exciting time to join a
hackspace.








On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Tom Lloyd <napalmllama at gmail.com> wrote:

> My bad, every two weeks is right :)
>
>
> On 6 June 2013 10:43, Tom Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 06/06/2013 10:30, Tom Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>> we're meeting twice a week to share ideas, discuss technologies and
>>> generally get more acquainted with one another.
>>>
>> Tom: I think you meant every two weeks, unless I've missed something?
>>
>> Oliver: Hope to see you at one of our future meetings :)
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.**org.uk <Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://stoneship.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hackspace<http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Jun 13 10:20:57 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon 17th June
Message-ID: <1371115257.9475.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

7pm Monday 17th June 2013 - Castle Room, Fulton House

Introduction to PIC workshop

This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC microcontroller,
giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the
controller for it.

All of the components and tools will be supplied, i have enough parts
for 5 teams to work on their own projects, some example projects will be
provided or you can make up your own.

Could some people please bring a laptop with them, as ideally there
would be one per team for you to write the software on. i will have a
copy of all the relevant software with me, or download it in advance
from the microchip website (MPLAB-X and the XC8 compiler) 





From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 13 13:41:03 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <201306131100.r5DB048X028501@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306131100.r5DB048X028501@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oP3rFuKAYmPAi7debKHcXPcvC_40P+grRDe5eTo_VTdNA@mail.gmail.com>

Very much hope to get to this event !

:  )))

Tim_1

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> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:57 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon
>         17th June
> To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> 7pm Monday 17th June 2013 - Castle Room, Fulton House
>
> Introduction to PIC workshop
>
> This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC microcontroller,
> giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the
> controller for it.
>
> All of the components and tools will be supplied, i have enough parts
> for 5 teams to work on their own projects, some example projects will be
> provided or you can make up your own.
>
> Could some people please bring a laptop with them, as ideally there
> would be one per team for you to write the software on. i will have a
> copy of all the relevant software with me, or download it in advance
> from the microchip website (MPLAB-X and the XC8 compiler)
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>
>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 18 13:29:48 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:29:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <201306141100.r5EB03t9013915@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306141100.r5EB03t9013915@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oMQJETTUa6JyjZjvUu8vS+pZZ6yL-uuetDkDQ_A6Sh-XQ@mail.gmail.com>

Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !  *LOL*

Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.

I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb gizmo?s
that  were needed.

1_   the usb to +5V adapter and

2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.

Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get them ?

Not knowing what they are called has resulted in viewing several thousand
mobile phone adapters *LOL*

:  ))

Tim_1

On 14 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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>
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>
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> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 (Tim Moore)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:41:03 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAAEY5oP3rFuKAYmPAi7debKHcXPcvC_40P+grRDe5eTo_VTdNA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Very much hope to get to this event !
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 13 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> >
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> >
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> > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon 17th June (Justin Mitchell)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:57 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon
> >         17th June
> > To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID: <1371115257.9475.2.camel at justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > 7pm Monday 17th June 2013 - Castle Room, Fulton House
> >
> > Introduction to PIC workshop
> >
> > This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC microcontroller,
> > giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the
> > controller for it.
> >
> > All of the components and tools will be supplied, i have enough parts
> > for 5 teams to work on their own projects, some example projects will be
> > provided or you can make up your own.
> >
> > Could some people please bring a laptop with them, as ideally there
> > would be one per team for you to write the software on. i will have a
> > copy of all the relevant software with me, or download it in advance
> > from the microchip website (MPLAB-X and the XC8 compiler)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 18 17:19:39 2013
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (ceri clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:19:39 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DMX512
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8CoiE1BeNF7hV4v=dx-bhW0rrM0kvcGHi8igz3zf1LgA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, but cannot remember who was looking for DMX512 stuff,
but look at this:

http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/notebook/dmx512/

Cheers

Ceri
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Jun 18 21:06:32 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:06:32 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oMQJETTUa6JyjZjvUu8vS+pZZ6yL-uuetDkDQ_A6Sh-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201306141100.r5EB03t9013915@stoneship.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oMQJETTUa6JyjZjvUu8vS+pZZ6yL-uuetDkDQ_A6Sh-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1371585992.13612.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 13:29 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !
> *LOL*
> 
> Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
> 
> I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb
> gizmo?s that  were needed.
> 
> 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
> 
> 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
> 
> Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get
> them ?

The usb-serial port that we were abusing for power is a PL2303HX
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090000590

The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2
Official ones can be quite expensive, but there are many cheap clone
versions that work just the same.

The cheapest ones i see on ebay come from china, so expect a couple of
weeks lead time on those.






From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 19 12:21:48 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:21:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <201306191100.r5JB05f6026887@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306191100.r5JB05f6026887@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOOizN3i3j4U2Ux3G-H377_syqK0KoESj0bA42F5JgpwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant !   Just order 2 of them !  now similar problem:-

Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"

so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from China?

the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the price.

I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to configure/use
use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex file from with the
IDE.

I'll build the circuit first.

Many thanks for your support !

:  )))

Tim_1

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>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 (Tim Moore)
>    2. DMX512 (ceri clatworthy)
>    3. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 (Justin Mitchell)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:29:48 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAAEY5oMQJETTUa6JyjZjvUu8vS+pZZ6yL-uuetDkDQ_A6Sh-XQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !  *LOL*
>
> Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
>
> I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb gizmo?s
> that  were needed.
>
> 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
>
> 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
>
> Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get them ?
>
> Not knowing what they are called has resulted in viewing several thousand
> mobile phone adapters *LOL*
>
> :  ))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 14 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:41:03 +0100
> > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > CAAEY5oP3rFuKAYmPAi7debKHcXPcvC_40P+grRDe5eTo_VTdNA at mail.gmail.com>
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> > Very much hope to get to this event !
> >
> > :  )))
> >
> > Tim_1
> >
> > On 13 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
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> > >    1. [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon 17th June (Justin
> Mitchell)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:57 +0100
> > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon
> > >         17th June
> > > To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID: <1371115257.9475.2.camel at justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > 7pm Monday 17th June 2013 - Castle Room, Fulton House
> > >
> > > Introduction to PIC workshop
> > >
> > > This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC
> microcontroller,
> > > giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the
> > > controller for it.
> > >
> > > All of the components and tools will be supplied, i have enough parts
> > > for 5 teams to work on their own projects, some example projects will
> be
> > > provided or you can make up your own.
> > >
> > > Could some people please bring a laptop with them, as ideally there
> > > would be one per team for you to write the software on. i will have a
> > > copy of all the relevant software with me, or download it in advance
> > > from the microchip website (MPLAB-X and the XC8 compiler)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:19:39 +0100
> From: ceri clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DMX512
> To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
>         <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
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> Sorry, but cannot remember who was looking for DMX512 stuff,
> but look at this:
>
> http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/notebook/dmx512/
>
> Cheers
>
> Ceri
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:06:32 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID: <1371585992.13612.5.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
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> On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 13:29 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !
> > *LOL*
> >
> > Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
> >
> > I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb
> > gizmo?s that  were needed.
> >
> > 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
> >
> > 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
> >
> > Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get
> > them ?
>
> The usb-serial port that we were abusing for power is a PL2303HX
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090000590
>
> The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2
> Official ones can be quite expensive, but there are many cheap clone
> versions that work just the same.
>
> The cheapest ones i see on ebay come from china, so expect a couple of
> weeks lead time on those.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Jun 19 12:46:06 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:46:06 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oOOizN3i3j4U2Ux3G-H377_syqK0KoESj0bA42F5JgpwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201306191100.r5JB05f6026887@stoneship.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oOOizN3i3j4U2Ux3G-H377_syqK0KoESj0bA42F5JgpwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1371642366.16196.8.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 12:21 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"    
> 
> so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from
> China?
> 
> the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the
> price.

'pickit 2 clone' i see one for ?11.66

or get a 'pickit 3' if you want better features.


> I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to
> configure/use use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex
> file from with the IDE.

The handout went through all the steps for writing the software, other
than the (hopefuly obvious) step of clicking 'build'

the reason i was using the hex file is that the pickit 2 driver thats
built into mplab doesn't believe it can talk to a 12F1840, but the stand
alone (seperate download) one does.

mplab believes you need a pickit 3 for that device, but they may well
update the software eventually.






From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Jun 20 11:26:47 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:26:47 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] followup to 3rd technical meeting workshop
Message-ID: <1371724007.18672.10.camel@quartz.geode.org.uk>

I have just updated the website with a copy of the pic workshop handout,
now updated to include bugfixes, and a circuit diagram.

http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/meetings/20130617.html

I learnt a lot about holding workshops, and i hope some of you got a
useful taste of how simple it can be to create circuits controlled by
software running on cheap micro-controllers.

It would be nice to hear some suggestions of things we could try in
future workshops.

I have a variety of sensors and devices that i have plans and ideas
around, the USB-Serial ports you saw at the workshop, dallas 1-wire
temperature sensors, the ws2811 based LED strip lights, and some newly
arrived 6-axis accelerometer/gyro sensors.







From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 12:22:48 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:22:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <201306201026.r5KAQssf010465@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306201026.r5KAQssf010465@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oNXfVFDCY3K7ApPFz6aDb+9RUq+Xxsuqgv3ki4+f2SqwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Quote 'It would be nice to hear some suggestions of things we could
try in future
workshops. '

I'd vote for Pic A/D experiment and we had logic 0 to 5/3.3V example on the
very enjoyable recent meeting.  The same 12F1840 has A/D capability (?).

Given that 2 hours seems comfortable for all concerned the learning curve
on getting the computer and hardware going will take less time, so more
time for experimenting.

:  ))

Tim_1

On 20 June 2013 11:26, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

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>    3. followup to 3rd technical meeting workshop (Justin Mitchell)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:21:48 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAAEY5oOOizN3i3j4U2Ux3G-H377_syqK0KoESj0bA42F5JgpwQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Brilliant !   Just order 2 of them !  now similar problem:-
>
> Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"
>
> so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from China?
>
> the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the price.
>
> I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to configure/use
> use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex file from with the
> IDE.
>
> I'll build the circuit first.
>
> Many thanks for your support !
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 19 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
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> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 (Tim Moore)
> >    2. DMX512 (ceri clatworthy)
> >    3. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 (Justin Mitchell)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:29:48 +0100
> > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAAEY5oMQJETTUa6JyjZjvUu8vS+pZZ6yL-uuetDkDQ_A6Sh-XQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !  *LOL*
> >
> > Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
> >
> > I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb
> gizmo?s
> > that  were needed.
> >
> > 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
> >
> > 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
> >
> > Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get them ?
> >
> > Not knowing what they are called has resulted in viewing several thousand
> > mobile phone adapters *LOL*
> >
> > :  ))
> >
> > Tim_1
> >
> > On 14 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >
> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > >         http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > >         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >
> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > >         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >
> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 (Tim Moore)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:41:03 +0100
> > > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > > CAAEY5oP3rFuKAYmPAi7debKHcXPcvC_40P+grRDe5eTo_VTdNA at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Very much hope to get to this event !
> > >
> > > :  )))
> > >
> > > Tim_1
> > >
> > > On 13 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > > >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > > >
> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > >    1. [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon 17th June (Justin
> > Mitchell)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:57 +0100
> > > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon
> > > >         17th June
> > > > To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <1371115257.9475.2.camel at justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > 7pm Monday 17th June 2013 - Castle Room, Fulton House
> > > >
> > > > Introduction to PIC workshop
> > > >
> > > > This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC
> > microcontroller,
> > > > giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the
> > > > controller for it.
> > > >
> > > > All of the components and tools will be supplied, i have enough parts
> > > > for 5 teams to work on their own projects, some example projects will
> > be
> > > > provided or you can make up your own.
> > > >
> > > > Could some people please bring a laptop with them, as ideally there
> > > > would be one per team for you to write the software on. i will have a
> > > > copy of all the relevant software with me, or download it in advance
> > > > from the microchip website (MPLAB-X and the XC8 compiler)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Hackspace mailing list
> > > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:19:39 +0100
> > From: ceri clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DMX512
> > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
> >         <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAO=DJn8CoiE1BeNF7hV4v=
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Sorry, but cannot remember who was looking for DMX512 stuff,
> > but look at this:
> >
> > http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/notebook/dmx512/
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ceri
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:06:32 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID: <1371585992.13612.5.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 13:29 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !
> > > *LOL*
> > >
> > > Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
> > >
> > > I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb
> > > gizmo?s that  were needed.
> > >
> > > 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
> > >
> > > 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get
> > > them ?
> >
> > The usb-serial port that we were abusing for power is a PL2303HX
> > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090000590
> >
> > The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2
> > Official ones can be quite expensive, but there are many cheap clone
> > versions that work just the same.
> >
> > The cheapest ones i see on ebay come from china, so expect a couple of
> > weeks lead time on those.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
> > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:46:06 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID: <1371642366.16196.8.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 12:21 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"
> >
> > so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from
> > China?
> >
> > the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the
> > price.
>
> 'pickit 2 clone' i see one for ??11.66
>
> or get a 'pickit 3' if you want better features.
>
>
> > I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to
> > configure/use use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex
> > file from with the IDE.
>
> The handout went through all the steps for writing the software, other
> than the (hopefuly obvious) step of clicking 'build'
>
> the reason i was using the hex file is that the pickit 2 driver thats
> built into mplab doesn't believe it can talk to a 12F1840, but the stand
> alone (seperate download) one does.
>
> mplab believes you need a pickit 3 for that device, but they may well
> update the software eventually.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:26:47 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] followup to 3rd technical meeting
>         workshop
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID: <1371724007.18672.10.camel at quartz.geode.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I have just updated the website with a copy of the pic workshop handout,
> now updated to include bugfixes, and a circuit diagram.
>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/meetings/20130617.html
>
> I learnt a lot about holding workshops, and i hope some of you got a
> useful taste of how simple it can be to create circuits controlled by
> software running on cheap micro-controllers.
>
> It would be nice to hear some suggestions of things we could try in
> future workshops.
>
> I have a variety of sensors and devices that i have plans and ideas
> around, the USB-Serial ports you saw at the workshop, dallas 1-wire
> temperature sensors, the ws2811 based LED strip lights, and some newly
> arrived 6-axis accelerometer/gyro sensors.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 23 19:14:31 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:14:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
In-Reply-To: <201306201122.r5KBMqgt011170@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306201122.r5KBMqgt011170@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOztg4CLbG9N6vRvK+B6zxhH655O2X5-xFSZ1fTfOqg7w@mail.gmail.com>

Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
source and have this:-

 * File:   cointoss5.c
 * Author: Tim
 *
 * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
 */

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <xc.h>
#include <pic12f1840.h>

#define INT_OSC 500000L
#define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC

/* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
 */

TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;

/*  DISABLE ANALOG FEATURES */

ANSELAbits.ANS0 = 0;
ANSELAbits.ANS1 = 0;
ANSELAbits.ANS2 = 0;

/*   page 107 enable weak pullup on A2  */
WPUAbits.WPUA2 = 1;
OPTION_REGbits.nWPUEN = 0;

uint8_t random_byte = 0xB4;

void dorand(void)
{
    asm("BCF STATUS,0");
    asm("RRF _random_byte,W");
    asm("BTFSC STATUS,0");
    asm("XORLW 0xB4");
    asm("MOVWF _random_byte");

}

int main(int argc, char** argv) {

    while (1) {
             // Wait for button to press (go low)
        while (PORTAbits.RA2) {};
                // toss the coin
                dorand();
                // set the lights

        if (random_byte & 0x01)  {
                PORTAbits.RA0 = 1;
                PORTAbits.RA1 = 0;
            } else {
                PORTAbits.RA0 = 0;
                PORTAbits.RA1 = 1;
            }

    }
    return (EXIT_SUCCESS);
}


_______________

which yields an error message of...

make -f nbproject/Makefile-default.mk SUBPROJECTS= .build-conf


make[1]: Entering directory `C:/Users/Arun/MPLABXProjects/cointoss.X'


make  -f nbproject/Makefile-default.mk
dist/default/production/cointoss.X.production.hex


make[2]: Entering directory `C:/Users/Arun/MPLABXProjects/cointoss.X'


"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microchip\xc8\v1.12\bin\xc8.exe" --pass1
--chip=12F1840 -Q -G --asmlist  --double=24 --float=24
--opt=default,+asm,-asmfile,+speed,-space,-debug --addrqual=ignore
--mode=free -P -N255 --warn=0
--summary=default,-psect,-class,+mem,-hex,-file --output=default,-inhx032
--runtime=default,+clear,+init,-keep,-no_startup,+osccal,-resetbits,-download,-stackcall,+clib
"--errformat=%%f:%%l: error: %%s" "--warnformat=%%f:%%l: warning: %%s"
"--msgformat=%%f:%%l: advisory: %%s"
-obuild/default/production/cointoss5.p1  cointoss5.c
(908) exit status = 1


make[2]: *** [build/default/production/cointoss5.p1] Error 1


make[1]: *** [.build-conf] Error 2

cointoss5.c:2: warning: missing basic type; int assumed
cointoss5.c:2: error: ";" expected
cointoss5.c:19: warning: missing basic type; int assumed
cointoss5.c:19: error: type redeclared
cointoss5.c:19: error: conflicting declarations for variable "TRISAbits"
(C:\Program Files (x86)\Microchip\xc8\v1.12

\include\pic12f1840.h:983)

make[2]: Leaving directory `C:/Users/Arun/MPLABXProjects/cointoss.X'
make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/Users/Arun/MPLABXProjects/cointoss.X'
make: *** [.build-impl] Error 2

BUILD FAILED (exit value 2, total time: 818ms)


_____________________

which would indicate I'm made errors in the source or I've set up MPLA|B
wrong or both......  *LOL*

Ooooo.....

;  )

Tim_1



On 20 June 2013 12:22, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:22:48 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAAEY5oNXfVFDCY3K7ApPFz6aDb+9RUq+Xxsuqgv3ki4+f2SqwQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Quote 'It would be nice to hear some suggestions of things we could
> try in future
> workshops. '
>
> I'd vote for Pic A/D experiment and we had logic 0 to 5/3.3V example on the
> very enjoyable recent meeting.  The same 12F1840 has A/D capability (?).
>
> Given that 2 hours seems comfortable for all concerned the learning curve
> on getting the computer and hardware going will take less time, so more
> time for experimenting.
>
> :  ))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 20 June 2013 11:26, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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> >    2. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 (Justin Mitchell)
> >    3. followup to 3rd technical meeting workshop (Justin Mitchell)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:21:48 +0100
> > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAAEY5oOOizN3i3j4U2Ux3G-H377_syqK0KoESj0bA42F5JgpwQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Brilliant !   Just order 2 of them !  now similar problem:-
> >
> > Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"
> >
> > so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from China?
> >
> > the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the
> price.
> >
> > I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to
> configure/use
> > use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex file from with
> the
> > IDE.
> >
> > I'll build the circuit first.
> >
> > Many thanks for your support !
> >
> > :  )))
> >
> > Tim_1
> >
> > On 19 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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> > >    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 (Tim Moore)
> > >    2. DMX512 (ceri clatworthy)
> > >    3. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 (Justin Mitchell)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:29:48 +0100
> > > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > > CAAEY5oMQJETTUa6JyjZjvUu8vS+pZZ6yL-uuetDkDQ_A6Sh-XQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> > >
> > > Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !
>  *LOL*
> > >
> > > Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
> > >
> > > I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb
> > gizmo?s
> > > that  were needed.
> > >
> > > 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
> > >
> > > 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get them
> ?
> > >
> > > Not knowing what they are called has resulted in viewing several
> thousand
> > > mobile phone adapters *LOL*
> > >
> > > :  ))
> > >
> > > Tim_1
> > >
> > > On 14 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > > >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > > >    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 (Tim Moore)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:41:03 +0100
> > > > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
> > > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > >         <
> > > > CAAEY5oP3rFuKAYmPAi7debKHcXPcvC_40P+grRDe5eTo_VTdNA at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Very much hope to get to this event !
> > > >
> > > > :  )))
> > > >
> > > > Tim_1
> > > >
> > > > On 13 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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> > > > >    1. [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon 17th June (Justin
> > > Mitchell)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:57 +0100
> > > > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon
> > > > >         17th June
> > > > > To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > > > Message-ID: <1371115257.9475.2.camel at justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > > >
> > > > > 7pm Monday 17th June 2013 - Castle Room, Fulton House
> > > > >
> > > > > Introduction to PIC workshop
> > > > >
> > > > > This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC
> > > microcontroller,
> > > > > giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the
> > > > > controller for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > All of the components and tools will be supplied, i have enough
> parts
> > > > > for 5 teams to work on their own projects, some example projects
> will
> > > be
> > > > > provided or you can make up your own.
> > > > >
> > > > > Could some people please bring a laptop with them, as ideally there
> > > > > would be one per team for you to write the software on. i will
> have a
> > > > > copy of all the relevant software with me, or download it in
> advance
> > > > > from the microchip website (MPLAB-X and the XC8 compiler)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:19:39 +0100
> > > From: ceri clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DMX512
> > > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
> > >         <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <CAO=DJn8CoiE1BeNF7hV4v=
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> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Sorry, but cannot remember who was looking for DMX512 stuff,
> > > but look at this:
> > >
> > > http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/notebook/dmx512/
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:06:32 +0100
> > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID: <1371585992.13612.5.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 13:29 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > > Most constructive event last night !  In every sense of the word !
> > > > *LOL*
> > > >
> > > > Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.
> > > >
> > > > I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb
> > > > gizmo?s that  were needed.
> > > >
> > > > 1_   the usb to +5V adapter and
> > > >
> > > > 2_  the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get
> > > > them ?
> > >
> > > The usb-serial port that we were abusing for power is a PL2303HX
> > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090000590
> > >
> > > The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2
> > > Official ones can be quite expensive, but there are many cheap clone
> > > versions that work just the same.
> > >
> > > The cheapest ones i see on ebay come from china, so expect a couple of
> > > weeks lead time on those.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
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> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:46:06 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID: <1371642366.16196.8.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 12:21 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"
> > >
> > > so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from
> > > China?
> > >
> > > the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the
> > > price.
> >
> > 'pickit 2 clone' i see one for ??11.66
> >
> > or get a 'pickit 3' if you want better features.
> >
> >
> > > I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to
> > > configure/use use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex
> > > file from with the IDE.
> >
> > The handout went through all the steps for writing the software, other
> > than the (hopefuly obvious) step of clicking 'build'
> >
> > the reason i was using the hex file is that the pickit 2 driver thats
> > built into mplab doesn't believe it can talk to a 12F1840, but the stand
> > alone (seperate download) one does.
> >
> > mplab believes you need a pickit 3 for that device, but they may well
> > update the software eventually.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:26:47 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] followup to 3rd technical meeting
> >         workshop
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID: <1371724007.18672.10.camel at quartz.geode.org.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I have just updated the website with a copy of the pic workshop handout,
> > now updated to include bugfixes, and a circuit diagram.
> >
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/meetings/20130617.html
> >
> > I learnt a lot about holding workshops, and i hope some of you got a
> > useful taste of how simple it can be to create circuits controlled by
> > software running on cheap micro-controllers.
> >
> > It would be nice to hear some suggestions of things we could try in
> > future workshops.
> >
> > I have a variety of sensors and devices that i have plans and ideas
> > around, the USB-Serial ports you saw at the workshop, dallas 1-wire
> > temperature sensors, the ws2811 based LED strip lights, and some newly
> > arrived 6-axis accelerometer/gyro sensors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sun Jun 23 20:33:31 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oOztg4CLbG9N6vRvK+B6zxhH655O2X5-xFSZ1fTfOqg7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201306201122.r5KBMqgt011170@stoneship.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oOztg4CLbG9N6vRvK+B6zxhH655O2X5-xFSZ1fTfOqg7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
> source and have this:-
> 
>  * File:   cointoss5.c
>  * Author: Tim
>  *
>  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
>  */
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <stdlib.h>
> #include <xc.h>
> #include <pic12f1840.h>
> 
> #define INT_OSC 500000L
> #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> 
> /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports 
>  */
> 
> TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> 


I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course you
wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because of
your laptop problems.

The port setup code goes inside the main() function.

I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings page
on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.




From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sun Jun 23 20:41:16 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and other
chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of the
4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated programmer
device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.

So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
perhaps play with analog inputs.

Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the kit
of parts after the workshop for cost ? 





From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 12:57:16 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:57:16 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <201306241100.r5OB04Dp005472@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306241100.r5OB04Dp005472@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Justin,

Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',

so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !

:  )))

Tim

On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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>    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
> > source and have this:-
> >
> >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> >  * Author: Tim
> >  *
> >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> >  */
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> > #include <stdlib.h>
> > #include <xc.h>
> > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> >
> > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> >
> > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> >  */
> >
> > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> >
>
>
> I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course you
> wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because of
> your laptop problems.
>
> The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
>
> I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings page
> on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and other
> chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of the
> 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated programmer
> device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
>
> So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
> which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> perhaps play with analog inputs.
>
> Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the kit
> of parts after the workshop for cost ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 20:33:18 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201306241100.r5OB04Dp005472@stoneship.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oM-OH8wZfTU58vBaS-K1ksFSpFgfay=mB4tt+mVXUbuMg@mail.gmail.com>

It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)

So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer to
the Pic chip ?

:  ))))

Tim

On 24 June 2013 12:57, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',
>
> so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
>>         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>         http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
>>    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
>> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
>> > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
>> > source and have this:-
>> >
>> >  * File:   cointoss5.c
>> >  * Author: Tim
>> >  *
>> >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
>> >  */
>> >
>> > #include <stdio.h>
>> > #include <stdlib.h>
>> > #include <xc.h>
>> > #include <pic12f1840.h>
>> >
>> > #define INT_OSC 500000L
>> > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
>> >
>> > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
>> >  */
>> >
>> > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
>> > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
>> > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
>> >
>>
>>
>> I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course you
>> wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because of
>> your laptop problems.
>>
>> The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
>>
>> I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings page
>> on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
>> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and other
>> chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of the
>> 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
>> re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated programmer
>> device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
>>
>> So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
>> which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
>> perhaps play with analog inputs.
>>
>> Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the kit
>> of parts after the workshop for cost ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
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>> ****************************************
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Jun 24 22:38:39 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:38:39 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oM-OH8wZfTU58vBaS-K1ksFSpFgfay=mB4tt+mVXUbuMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201306241100.r5OB04Dp005472@stoneship.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oM-OH8wZfTU58vBaS-K1ksFSpFgfay=mB4tt+mVXUbuMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1372109919.9107.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 20:33 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
> 
> So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer
> to the Pic chip ?

it did already.

in the project directory cointoss.X

look at dist/default/production/

you would program the .hex file thats in there.

eg  pk2cmd -P -F cointoss.X.production.hex -M








From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 13:19:17 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:19:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <201306251100.r5PB04bZ001747@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306251100.r5PB04bZ001747@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oNba3ABB7ES44fBYj5NRzWmdLM81toP=GDwfZR9SjPDhw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Justin,

Many thanks, I have found the .hex file !

Brilliant. Next step is building the circuit.  All the parts have arrived
including a PICkit 2.

(I'm using a reasonably moden desktop PC  and W7)

Greatly appreciate your support !

:  )))

Tim

On 25 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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>
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>
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Tim Moore)
>    2. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Tim Moore)
>    3. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Justin Mitchell)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:57:16 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',
>
> so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim
>
> On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >         http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> >         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
> >    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
> > > source and have this:-
> > >
> > >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> > >  * Author: Tim
> > >  *
> > >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> > >  */
> > >
> > > #include <stdio.h>
> > > #include <stdlib.h>
> > > #include <xc.h>
> > > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> > >
> > > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> > > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> > >
> > > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> > >  */
> > >
> > > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> > > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> > > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> > >
> >
> >
> > I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course you
> > wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because of
> > your laptop problems.
> >
> > The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
> >
> > I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings page
> > on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and other
> > chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of the
> > 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> > re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated programmer
> > device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
> >
> > So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
> > which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> > perhaps play with analog inputs.
> >
> > Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the kit
> > of parts after the workshop for cost ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
> > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
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> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:18 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
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> mB4tt+mVXUbuMg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
>
> So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer to
> the Pic chip ?
>
> :  ))))
>
> Tim
>
> On 24 June 2013 12:57, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',
> >
> > so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
> >
> > :  )))
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> >>         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>
> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >>         http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >>         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>
> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >>         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>
> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >>    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
> >>    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> >> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> >> > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
> >> > source and have this:-
> >> >
> >> >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> >> >  * Author: Tim
> >> >  *
> >> >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> >> >  */
> >> >
> >> > #include <stdio.h>
> >> > #include <stdlib.h>
> >> > #include <xc.h>
> >> > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> >> >
> >> > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> >> > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> >> >
> >> > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> >> >  */
> >> >
> >> > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> >> > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> >> > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course you
> >> wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because of
> >> your laptop problems.
> >>
> >> The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
> >>
> >> I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings page
> >> on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> >> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and other
> >> chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of the
> >> 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> >> re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated programmer
> >> device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
> >>
> >> So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
> >> which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> >> perhaps play with analog inputs.
> >>
> >> Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the kit
> >> of parts after the workshop for cost ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Hackspace mailing list
> >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >>
> >>
> >> End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> >> ****************************************
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> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:38:39 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID: <1372109919.9107.2.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 20:33 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
> >
> > So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer
> > to the Pic chip ?
>
> it did already.
>
> in the project directory cointoss.X
>
> look at dist/default/production/
>
> you would program the .hex file thats in there.
>
> eg  pk2cmd -P -F cointoss.X.production.hex -M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:06:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
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- Ceri

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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 27 13:10:07 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:10:07 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <201306251226.r5PCQlgZ003702@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306251226.r5PCQlgZ003702@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOk=Ha4XYHMRxFxawSOxDvWw+mecCmqCU=RWg3UrZo2ZA@mail.gmail.com>

An Update:-  First try programming the 12F1840 failed so checking the
wiring, but so far so good.

I'd be more than happy buying the parts, on the next PIC session !

I'll be coming along to the Monday meeting. If I succeed in gett the iC
programmed, I'll leave my Pic stuff behind, if not I'll be pleading for
help !  *LOL*

:  )))

Tim_1

On 25 June 2013 13:26, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:19:17 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Message-ID:
>         <CAAEY5oNba3ABB7ES44fBYj5NRzWmdLM81toP=
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>
> Hi Justin,
>
> Many thanks, I have found the .hex file !
>
> Brilliant. Next step is building the circuit.  All the parts have arrived
> including a PICkit 2.
>
> (I'm using a reasonably moden desktop PC  and W7)
>
> Greatly appreciate your support !
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim
>
> On 25 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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> >    2. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Tim Moore)
> >    3. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Justin Mitchell)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:57:16 +0100
> > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',
> >
> > so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
> >
> > :  )))
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > >         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > >         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >
> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > >         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >
> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
> > >    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped the
> > > > source and have this:-
> > > >
> > > >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> > > >  * Author: Tim
> > > >  *
> > > >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> > > >  */
> > > >
> > > > #include <stdio.h>
> > > > #include <stdlib.h>
> > > > #include <xc.h>
> > > > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> > > >
> > > > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> > > > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> > > >
> > > > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> > > >  */
> > > >
> > > > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> > > > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> > > > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course you
> > > wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because
> of
> > > your laptop problems.
> > >
> > > The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
> > >
> > > I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings page
> > > on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and
> other
> > > chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of the
> > > 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> > > re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated programmer
> > > device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
> > >
> > > So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
> > > which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> > > perhaps play with analog inputs.
> > >
> > > Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the kit
> > > of parts after the workshop for cost ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Hackspace mailing list
> > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >
> > >
> > > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:18 +0100
> > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAAEY5oM-OH8wZfTU58vBaS-K1ksFSpFgfay=
> > mB4tt+mVXUbuMg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
> >
> > So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer to
> > the Pic chip ?
> >
> > :  ))))
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On 24 June 2013 12:57, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Justin,
> > >
> > > Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',
> > >
> > > so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
> > >
> > > :  )))
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > >>         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >>
> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > >>         http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > >>         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >>
> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> > >>         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >>
> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Today's Topics:
> > >>
> > >>    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
> > >>    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> > >> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> > >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >> Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > >> > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped
> the
> > >> > source and have this:-
> > >> >
> > >> >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> > >> >  * Author: Tim
> > >> >  *
> > >> >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> > >> >  */
> > >> >
> > >> > #include <stdio.h>
> > >> > #include <stdlib.h>
> > >> > #include <xc.h>
> > >> > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> > >> >
> > >> > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> > >> > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> > >> >
> > >> > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> > >> >  */
> > >> >
> > >> > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> > >> > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> > >> > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course
> you
> > >> wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because
> of
> > >> your laptop problems.
> > >>
> > >> The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
> > >>
> > >> I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings
> page
> > >> on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 2
> > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> > >> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> > >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >> Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >>
> > >> i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and
> other
> > >> chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of
> the
> > >> 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> > >> re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated
> programmer
> > >> device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
> > >>
> > >> So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
> > >> which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> > >> perhaps play with analog inputs.
> > >>
> > >> Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the
> kit
> > >> of parts after the workshop for cost ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Hackspace mailing list
> > >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > >> ****************************************
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:38:39 +0100
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID: <1372109919.9107.2.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 20:33 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
> > >
> > > So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer
> > > to the Pic chip ?
> >
> > it did already.
> >
> > in the project directory cointoss.X
> >
> > look at dist/default/production/
> >
> > you would program the .hex file thats in there.
> >
> > eg  pk2cmd -P -F cointoss.X.production.hex -M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 15:14:11 2013
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 15:14:11 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <201306271210.r5RCAD20018398@stoneship.org.uk>
References: <201306271210.r5RCAD20018398@stoneship.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oO-tahNEfmfCHT3iCRZQEPuAxOpT+0AGmySk11jEx_+6g@mail.gmail.com>

Finally got the 12F1840 Pic programmed and it worked !

Many many thanks to all who helped me and my very aged XP laptop tp achieve
this !

Stupid question:-

Will the same 'C' source code still work on the 12F609 which costs 61p
delivered or the 12F615 which costs 88p delivered ?

I realise the line which say '12F1840' will need changing.

Many thanks again especially to Justin who arranged the last HackSpace
meeting ! ! !

A very happy,

Tim_1



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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:10:07 +0100
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> RWg3UrZo2ZA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> An Update:-  First try programming the 12F1840 failed so checking the
> wiring, but so far so good.
>
> I'd be more than happy buying the parts, on the next PIC session !
>
> I'll be coming along to the Monday meeting. If I succeed in gett the iC
> programmed, I'll leave my Pic stuff behind, if not I'll be pleading for
> help !  *LOL*
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 25 June 2013 13:26, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
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> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:19:17 +0100
> > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAAEY5oNba3ABB7ES44fBYj5NRzWmdLM81toP=
> > GDwfZR9SjPDhw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > Many thanks, I have found the .hex file !
> >
> > Brilliant. Next step is building the circuit.  All the parts have arrived
> > including a PICkit 2.
> >
> > (I'm using a reasonably moden desktop PC  and W7)
> >
> > Greatly appreciate your support !
> >
> > :  )))
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On 25 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
> >
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> > >    1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Tim Moore)
> > >    2. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Tim Moore)
> > >    3. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 (Justin Mitchell)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:57:16 +0100
> > > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > > CAAEY5oOmiAEBzostsZOcn3+RRtc6hgu9Z0e1BwHCrwr_UUxVhw at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Hi Justin,
> > >
> > > Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in 'C',
> > >
> > > so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
> > >
> > > :  )))
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
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> > > >
> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > >    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
> > > >    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> > > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> > > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > > Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > > > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped
> the
> > > > > source and have this:-
> > > > >
> > > > >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> > > > >  * Author: Tim
> > > > >  *
> > > > >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> > > > >  */
> > > > >
> > > > > #include <stdio.h>
> > > > > #include <stdlib.h>
> > > > > #include <xc.h>
> > > > > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> > > > >
> > > > > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> > > > > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> > > > >
> > > > > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> > > > >  */
> > > > >
> > > > > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> > > > > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> > > > > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course
> you
> > > > wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part because
> > of
> > > > your laptop problems.
> > > >
> > > > The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
> > > >
> > > > I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings
> page
> > > > on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> > > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> > > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > > Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >
> > > > i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and
> > other
> > > > chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of
> the
> > > > 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> > > > re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated
> programmer
> > > > device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
> > > >
> > > > So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near future,
> > > > which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> > > > perhaps play with analog inputs.
> > > >
> > > > Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the
> kit
> > > > of parts after the workshop for cost ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:18 +0100
> > > From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
> > >
> > > So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer
> to
> > > the Pic chip ?
> > >
> > > :  ))))
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On 24 June 2013 12:57, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Justin,
> > > >
> > > > Last touched MPLAB 10 years ago and have never written anything in
> 'C',
> > > >
> > > > so your help with the source is very greatly appreciated !
> > > >
> > > > :  )))
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 24 June 2013 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > > >>         hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > >>         hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > >>
> > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > >>         hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > >>
> > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Today's Topics:
> > > >>
> > > >>    1. Re: Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 (Justin Mitchell)
> > > >>    2. PIC Workshops (Justin Mitchell)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> Message: 1
> > > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:33:31 +0100
> > > >> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue
> 9
> > > >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > >> Message-ID: <1372016011.6126.10.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 19:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > >> > Slowly getting it together on the Pic demo program.  I've retyped
> > the
> > > >> > source and have this:-
> > > >> >
> > > >> >  * File:   cointoss5.c
> > > >> >  * Author: Tim
> > > >> >  *
> > > >> >  * Created on 20 June 2013, 07:51
> > > >> >  */
> > > >> >
> > > >> > #include <stdio.h>
> > > >> > #include <stdlib.h>
> > > >> > #include <xc.h>
> > > >> > #include <pic12f1840.h>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > #define INT_OSC 500000L
> > > >> > #define _XTAL_FREQ _INT_OSC
> > > >> >
> > > >> > /* 12.0 page 101 setup the ports
> > > >> >  */
> > > >> >
> > > >> > TRISAbits.TRISA0 = 0;
> > > >> > TRISAbits.TRISA1 = 0;
> > > >> > TRISAbits.TRISA2 = 1;
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I guess your not experienced with C programming then, and of course
> > you
> > > >> wern't up to speed in the workshop to get help with this part
> because
> > of
> > > >> your laptop problems.
> > > >>
> > > >> The port setup code goes inside the main() function.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have added the completed C code to the downloads on the meetings
> > page
> > > >> on the website, you can see what it is meant to look like.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> Message: 2
> > > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:41:16 +0100
> > > >> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PIC Workshops
> > > >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > >> Message-ID: <1372016476.6126.17.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >>
> > > >> i have been investigating bootloaders for use with the 12f1840 and
> > other
> > > >> chips.  It looks entirely feasible to lose just 100 - 300 words (of
> > the
> > > >> 4K word) program memory to a bootloader, which will allow people to
> > > >> re-program their devices at will without needing a dedicated
> > programmer
> > > >> device, just using the usb-serial port devices we were using.
> > > >>
> > > >> So i am looking to put together another workshop for the near
> future,
> > > >> which will utilise a bootloader, talk through the serial port, and
> > > >> perhaps play with analog inputs.
> > > >>
> > > >> Would people be interested if i also offered the chance to keep the
> > kit
> > > >> of parts after the workshop for cost ?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Hackspace mailing list
> > > >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:38:39 +0100
> > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Message-ID: <1372109919.9107.2.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 20:33 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> > > > It seemed to 'build' with no errors ! (Plenty of comments)
> > > >
> > > > So what next ?  How do I get it to produce a file that I can transfer
> > > > to the Pic chip ?
> > >
> > > it did already.
> > >
> > > in the project directory cointoss.X
> > >
> > > look at dist/default/production/
> > >
> > > you would program the .hex file thats in there.
> > >
> > > eg  pk2cmd -P -F cointoss.X.production.hex -M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sun Jun 30 19:47:38 2013
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 19:47:38 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
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On Sun, 2013-06-30 at 15:14 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> Finally got the 12F1840 Pic programmed and it worked !
> 
> Many many thanks to all who helped me and my very aged XP laptop tp
> achieve this !
> 
> Stupid question:-
> 
> Will the same 'C' source code still work on the 12F609 which costs 61p
> delivered or the 12F615 which costs 88p delivered ?

More or less.

Those chips are broadly similar, but have less features. so depends if
you need those features.

A quick attempt at a comparison table

		12f1840	12f615	12f609
prog mem	4K	1K	1K
ram		256	64	64
max MHz		32	8	8
analog a2d	yes	yes	no
serial/uart	yes	no	no
spi/i2c		yes	no	no

As you can see they are lower spec devices, so consider what the project
you want to use them for needs.

As for building cointoss on them, they all have the internal pull-ups,
and internal clock oscillators, so apart from fixing the include file
and adjusting the xtal frequency statement, it should just work.