From E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk Wed Sep 4 09:59:03 2013 From: E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk (Edwin Beggs) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:59:03 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition Message-ID: Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council. I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think so, but you may think of possible problems... Edwin ************************************** Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in many cities worldwide (for a world list, see http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ): "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third mission. To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities would fit. Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come together and really take that data and solve things in creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 countries on all 7 continents - See more at: http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page For a list of UK hacker spaces, http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace and Nottingham (listed above) In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might eventually become involved. We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by its members. ******************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Wed Sep 4 10:17:17 2013 From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:17:17 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130904101717.4f565f87@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:59:03 +0100 Edwin Beggs wrote: > > > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially > recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as > part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean > practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university > easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what > I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do > something with Swansea Council. > > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science > Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - > either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? > I think so, but you may think of possible problems... God knows.. this is the University. It moves in its own bizarre political space. I would be inclined perhaps to also talk about how things like the university computer society (one of the first with its own systems) enabled all sorts of stuff to happen. Also a hackspace isn't just science, just art, just engineering or just maths. It's all in one. 3D printing in particular shows that it is all facets of the same thing - a chair is an equation, science, art and engineering. Alan From welshbyte at sucs.org Wed Sep 4 10:50:32 2013 From: welshbyte at sucs.org (Andrew Price) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:50:32 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition In-Reply-To: <20130904101717.4f565f87@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> References: <20130904101717.4f565f87@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> Message-ID: <52270268.5070403@sucs.org> On 04/09/13 10:17, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:59:03 +0100 > Edwin Beggs wrote: > >> >> >> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as >> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean >> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university >> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what >> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do >> something with Swansea Council. >> >> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - >> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? >> I think so, but you may think of possible problems... > > God knows.. this is the University. It moves in its own bizarre political > space. I think we can probably agree that recognition from the University in itself would be a good thing, but if it comes with any conditions attached we'd have to be cautious to not get bogged down in said bizarre political space. > I would be inclined perhaps to also talk about how things like the > university computer society (one of the first with its own systems) > enabled all sorts of stuff to happen. I assume you're referring to the talent and innovation that the society has enabled over 25 years, and not just its members' involvement in the hackspace? Andy From E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk Fri Sep 6 09:50:15 2013 From: E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk (Edwin Beggs) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version - reply soon or never Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC@swansea.ac.uk> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send urgently. Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" (silence implies consent). Edwin ******************************** Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council. I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think so, but you may think of possible problems... Edwin ************************************** Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in many cities worldwide (for a world list, see http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ): "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third mission. To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities would fit. Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come together and really take that data and solve things in creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 countries on all 7 continents - See more at: http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page For a list of UK hacker spaces, http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace and Nottingham (listed above) In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might eventually become involved. We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by its members. ******************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com Fri Sep 6 10:50:57 2013 From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version - reply soon or never In-Reply-To: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC@swansea.ac.uk> References: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC@swansea.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421@gmail.com> Hi Edwin, Thanks for working on this. A few comments: - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space". We could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace". - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be "Collaborations such as hackerspaces" ? - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next paragraph - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the university. - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link to our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/ Cheers, Gerrit On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs wrote: > > > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send urgently. > > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" (silence implies consent). > > Edwin > > ******************************** > > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council. > > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think so, but you may think of possible problems... > > Edwin > > > ************************************** > > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in many cities worldwide (for a world list, see http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ): > > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." > > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third mission. > > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities would fit. > > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come together and really take that data and solve things in creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ > > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 countries on all 7 continents - See more at: > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: > http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving > > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page > For a list of UK hacker spaces, http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom > Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace and Nottingham (listed above) > > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might eventually become involved. > > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by its members. > > ******************** > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk Fri Sep 6 11:58:32 2013 From: E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk (Edwin Beggs) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:58:32 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version - reply soon or never In-Reply-To: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421@gmail.com> References: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC@swansea.ac.uk> <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421@gmail.com> Message-ID: <77DAB1D3-6E09-4FBA-B072-06771D85986F@swansea.ac.uk> Will do proposed edits. Re what to ask for - it is not obvious what the university can give. This third mission thing is, as far as small groups rather than big collaborations with companies are concerned, rather new territory for them. If we are too specific, they will spend ages sending things to various committees and eventually decide "no" for some ill defined reason. If we get recognition first, then we can see what they are prepared to provide in a more gradual process. Edwin From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Fri Sep 6 12:00:43 2013 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <201309060950.r869oxpv003625@stoneship.org.uk> References: <201309060950.r869oxpv003625@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: In this paragraph: In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might eventually become involved. I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea Hackspace has been meeting.... The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is the group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly. Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where others are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol Best Regards Graham On 6 September 2013 10:50, wrote: > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or > never (Edwin Beggs) > 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or > never (Gerrit Niezen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100 > From: Edwin Beggs > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version > - reply soon or never > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC at swansea.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the > different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history > of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people > propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, > please send urgently. > > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace > will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the > university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for > whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui > tacet consentit" (silence implies consent). > > Edwin > > ******************************** > > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially > recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as > part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean > practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university > easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what > I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do > something with Swansea Council. > > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science > Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - > either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? > I think so, but you may think of possible problems... > > Edwin > > > ************************************** > > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in > many cities worldwide (for a world list, see > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces > ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at > http://nottinghack.org.uk/ > ): > > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. > You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge > of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, > computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, > building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." > > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by > pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their > hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. > However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of > large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small > beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating > together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity > for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own > businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional > reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and > for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's > third mission. > > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up > collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote > Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government > innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could > be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places > where such activities would fit. > > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually > supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. > He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool > for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring > them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then > step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the > room come together and really take that data and solve things in > creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ > > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 > countries on all 7 continents - See more at: > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: > > http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving > > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: > http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page > For a list of UK hacker spaces, > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom > Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace > and Nottingham (listed above) > > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and > hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, > without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people > might eventually become involved. > > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker > space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of > redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of > Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best > traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by > its members. > > ******************** > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/d1d35cf6/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100 > From: Gerrit Niezen > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised > version - reply soon or never > To: Edwin Beggs > Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Edwin, > > Thanks for working on this. A few comments: > > - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space". We > could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace". > - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be "Collaborations > such as hackerspaces" ? > - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next > paragraph > - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the university. > - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link to > our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/ > > Cheers, > Gerrit > > > On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs wrote: > > > > > > > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the > different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of the > computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a > couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send urgently. > > > > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace will > have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university before > deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you > have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" (silence > implies consent). > > > > Edwin > > > > ******************************** > > > > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially > recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as part > of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but it > will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third mission > is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address here. > If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council. > > > > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science > Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either > edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think so, > but you may think of possible problems... > > > > Edwin > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in many > cities worldwide (for a world list, see > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to > quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ): > > > > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. You?ll > probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of > electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, > computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, > building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." > > > > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by pooling > resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It > encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at the > computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and > Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a > few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space > offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set up > their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional > reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for > this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third > mission. > > > > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up > collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris > Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on > hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any > organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities > would fit. > > > > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually > supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He > noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for > government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them > together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step out > of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come > together and really take that data and solve things in creative and > imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? > > > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ > > > > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 > countries on all 7 continents - See more at: > > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon > > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: > > > http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving > > > > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: > http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page > > For a list of UK hacker spaces, > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom > > Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand Nottingham (listed above) > > > > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes > to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without > its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might > eventually become involved. > > > > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker > space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of > redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of > Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best > traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by its > members. > > > > ******************** > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/b0e0ba7a/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > *************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timmoore47 at gmail.com Fri Sep 6 13:32:19 2013 From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:32:19 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <201309061100.r86B0mZk005783@stoneship.org.uk> References: <201309061100.r86B0mZk005783@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: I drive over 20 miles from Llandyfan near Trap/Llandeilo. Yes, it counts as bringing money into Swansea as I would very rarely enter Swansea otherwise. : ))) Tim On 06/09/2013, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk wrote: > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 (Graham Owens) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100 > From: Graham Owens > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > In this paragraph: > > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and > hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, > without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people > might eventually become involved. > > I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea Hackspace > has been meeting.... > > The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is the > group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly. > > Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could > include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members > travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where others > are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does > that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol > > Best Regards > > Graham > > > On 6 September 2013 10:50, > wrote: > >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to >> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or >> never (Edwin Beggs) >> 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or >> never (Gerrit Niezen) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100 >> From: Edwin Beggs >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version >> - reply soon or never >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC at swansea.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> >> >> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history >> of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people >> propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, >> please send urgently. >> >> Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace >> will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the >> university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for >> whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui >> tacet consentit" (silence implies consent). >> >> Edwin >> >> ******************************** >> >> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as >> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean >> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university >> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what >> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do >> something with Swansea Council. >> >> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - >> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? >> I think so, but you may think of possible problems... >> >> Edwin >> >> >> ************************************** >> >> Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in >> many cities worldwide (for a world list, see >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces >> ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at >> http://nottinghack.org.uk/ >> ): >> >> "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. >> You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge >> of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." >> >> They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by >> pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their >> hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. >> However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of >> large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small >> beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating >> together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity >> for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own >> businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and >> for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's >> third mission. >> >> To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote >> Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government >> innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could >> be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places >> where such activities would fit. >> >> Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. >> He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool >> for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring >> them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then >> step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the >> room come together and really take that data and solve things in >> creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ >> >> NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at: >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon >> In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving >> >> There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page >> For a list of UK hacker spaces, >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom >> Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace >> and Nottingham (listed above) >> >> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and >> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, >> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people >> might eventually become involved. >> >> We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by >> its members. >> >> ******************** >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/d1d35cf6/attachment-0001.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100 >> From: Gerrit Niezen >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised >> version - reply soon or never >> To: Edwin Beggs >> Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Hi Edwin, >> >> Thanks for working on this. A few comments: >> >> - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space". >> We >> could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace". >> - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be >> "Collaborations >> such as hackerspaces" ? >> - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next >> paragraph >> - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the >> university. >> - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link >> to >> our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/ >> >> Cheers, >> Gerrit >> >> >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of >> the >> computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a >> couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send >> urgently. >> > >> > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace will >> have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university >> before >> deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you >> have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" (silence >> implies consent). >> > >> > Edwin >> > >> > ******************************** >> > >> > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as part >> of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but >> it >> will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third mission >> is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address >> here. >> If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council. >> > >> > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either >> edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think >> so, >> but you may think of possible problems... >> > >> > Edwin >> > >> > >> > ************************************** >> > >> > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in many >> cities worldwide (for a world list, see >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to >> quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ): >> > >> > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. You?ll >> probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of >> electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." >> > >> > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by pooling >> resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It >> encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at >> the >> computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and >> Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a >> few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space >> offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set >> up >> their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for >> this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third >> mission. >> > >> > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris >> Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on >> hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any >> organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities >> would fit. >> > >> > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He >> noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for >> government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them >> together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step out >> of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come >> together and really take that data and solve things in creative and >> imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? >> > >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ >> > >> > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at: >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon >> > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: >> > >> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving >> > >> > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page >> > For a list of UK hacker spaces, >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom >> > Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand >> > Nottingham (listed above) >> > >> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes >> to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without >> its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might >> eventually become involved. >> > >> > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by its >> members. >> > >> > ******************** >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hackspace mailing list >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/b0e0ba7a/attachment.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 >> *************************************** >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/0e747b00/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 > *************************************** > From timmoore47 at gmail.com Fri Sep 6 13:34:52 2013 From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:34:52 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: <201309061100.r86B0mZk005783@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: Also is there a Hackspace meeting this coming Monday ? Its a fortnight since the last one ! : ))) Tim_1 On 6 September 2013 13:32, Tim Moore wrote: > I drive over 20 miles from Llandyfan near Trap/Llandeilo. > > Yes, it counts as bringing money into Swansea as I would very rarely > enter Swansea otherwise. > > : ))) > > Tim > > On 06/09/2013, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > wrote: > > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to > > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 (Graham Owens) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100 > > From: Graham Owens > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" > > > > Message-ID: > > < > CAJqsN4QMSUaWdDdCfORF-y7UhNjjVTH6svCg4h+mKwxgNAYe7Q at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > In this paragraph: > > > > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and > > hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, > > without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people > > might eventually become involved. > > > > I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea > Hackspace > > has been meeting.... > > > > The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is > the > > group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly. > > > > Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could > > include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members > > travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where > others > > are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does > > that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol > > > > Best Regards > > > > Graham > > > > > > On 6 September 2013 10:50, > > wrote: > > > >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to > >> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or > >> never (Edwin Beggs) > >> 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or > >> never (Gerrit Niezen) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100 > >> From: Edwin Beggs > >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version > >> - reply soon or never > >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC at swansea.ac.uk> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > >> > >> > >> > >> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the > >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history > >> of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people > >> propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, > >> please send urgently. > >> > >> Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace > >> will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the > >> university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for > >> whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui > >> tacet consentit" (silence implies consent). > >> > >> Edwin > >> > >> ******************************** > >> > >> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially > >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as > >> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean > >> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university > >> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what > >> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do > >> something with Swansea Council. > >> > >> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science > >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - > >> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? > >> I think so, but you may think of possible problems... > >> > >> Edwin > >> > >> > >> ************************************** > >> > >> Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in > >> many cities worldwide (for a world list, see > >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces > >> ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at > >> http://nottinghack.org.uk/ > >> ): > >> > >> "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. > >> You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge > >> of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, > >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, > >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." > >> > >> They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by > >> pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their > >> hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. > >> However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of > >> large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small > >> beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating > >> together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity > >> for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own > >> businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional > >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and > >> for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's > >> third mission. > >> > >> To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up > >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote > >> Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government > >> innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could > >> be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places > >> where such activities would fit. > >> > >> Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually > >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. > >> He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool > >> for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring > >> them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then > >> step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the > >> room come together and really take that data and solve things in > >> creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? > >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ > >> > >> NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 > >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at: > >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon > >> In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: > >> > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving > >> > >> There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: > >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page > >> For a list of UK hacker spaces, > >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom > >> Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace > >> and Nottingham (listed above) > >> > >> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and > >> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, > >> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people > >> might eventually become involved. > >> > >> We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker > >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of > >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of > >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best > >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by > >> its members. > >> > >> ******************** > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/d1d35cf6/attachment-0001.html > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100 > >> From: Gerrit Niezen > >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised > >> version - reply soon or never > >> To: Edwin Beggs > >> Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421 at gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > >> > >> Hi Edwin, > >> > >> Thanks for working on this. A few comments: > >> > >> - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space". > >> We > >> could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace". > >> - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be > >> "Collaborations > >> such as hackerspaces" ? > >> - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next > >> paragraph > >> - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the > >> university. > >> - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link > >> to > >> our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/ > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Gerrit > >> > >> > >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the > >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of > >> the > >> computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a > >> couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send > >> urgently. > >> > > >> > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace > will > >> have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university > >> before > >> deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you > >> have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" > (silence > >> implies consent). > >> > > >> > Edwin > >> > > >> > ******************************** > >> > > >> > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially > >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as > part > >> of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but > >> it > >> will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third > mission > >> is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address > >> here. > >> If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council. > >> > > >> > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science > >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either > >> edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think > >> so, > >> but you may think of possible problems... > >> > > >> > Edwin > >> > > >> > > >> > ************************************** > >> > > >> > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in > many > >> cities worldwide (for a world list, see > >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to > >> quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ): > >> > > >> > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. > You?ll > >> probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of > >> electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, > >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, > >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." > >> > > >> > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by > pooling > >> resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It > >> encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at > >> the > >> computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and > >> Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a > >> few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space > >> offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set > >> up > >> their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its > traditional > >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for > >> this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third > >> mission. > >> > > >> > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up > >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris > >> Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on > >> hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any > >> organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities > >> would fit. > >> > > >> > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually > >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He > >> noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for > >> government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them > >> together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step > out > >> of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come > >> together and really take that data and solve things in creative and > >> imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? > >> > > >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ > >> > > >> > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 > >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at: > >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon > >> > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: > >> > > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving > >> > > >> > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: > >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page > >> > For a list of UK hacker spaces, > >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom > >> > Notable ones are London > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand > >> > Nottingham (listed above) > >> > > >> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and > hopes > >> to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without > >> its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might > >> eventually become involved. > >> > > >> > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker > >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of > >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of > >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best > >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by > its > >> members. > >> > > >> > ******************** > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Hackspace mailing list > >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/b0e0ba7a/attachment.html > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hackspace mailing list > >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > >> > >> > >> End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > >> *************************************** > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/0e747b00/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 > > *************************************** > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From napalmllama at gmail.com Fri Sep 6 13:39:27 2013 From: napalmllama at gmail.com (Tom Lloyd) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:39:27 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: <201309061100.r86B0mZk005783@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: Yes, it's a technical meeting this time. I think the plan is to use Dr. Tim's lab again if he can wangle it. Tom Lloyd On 6 September 2013 13:34, Tim Moore wrote: > Also is there a Hackspace meeting this coming Monday ? Its a fortnight > since the last one ! > > : ))) > > Tim_1 > > > On 6 September 2013 13:32, Tim Moore wrote: > >> I drive over 20 miles from Llandyfan near Trap/Llandeilo. >> >> Yes, it counts as bringing money into Swansea as I would very rarely >> enter Swansea otherwise. >> >> : ))) >> >> Tim >> >> On 06/09/2013, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> wrote: >> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to >> > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 (Graham Owens) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100 >> > From: Graham Owens >> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 >> > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" >> > >> > Message-ID: >> > < >> CAJqsN4QMSUaWdDdCfORF-y7UhNjjVTH6svCg4h+mKwxgNAYe7Q at mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> > >> > In this paragraph: >> > >> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and >> > hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, >> > without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people >> > might eventually become involved. >> > >> > I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea >> Hackspace >> > has been meeting.... >> > >> > The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is >> the >> > group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly. >> > >> > Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could >> > include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members >> > travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where >> others >> > are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does >> > that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol >> > >> > Best Regards >> > >> > Graham >> > >> > >> > On 6 September 2013 10:50, >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to >> >> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >> hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >> hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." >> >> >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> >> >> 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or >> >> never (Edwin Beggs) >> >> 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or >> >> never (Gerrit Niezen) >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100 >> >> From: Edwin Beggs >> >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version >> >> - reply soon or never >> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC at swansea.ac.uk> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the >> >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history >> >> of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people >> >> propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, >> >> please send urgently. >> >> >> >> Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace >> >> will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the >> >> university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for >> >> whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui >> >> tacet consentit" (silence implies consent). >> >> >> >> Edwin >> >> >> >> ******************************** >> >> >> >> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially >> >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as >> >> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean >> >> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university >> >> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what >> >> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do >> >> something with Swansea Council. >> >> >> >> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science >> >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - >> >> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? >> >> I think so, but you may think of possible problems... >> >> >> >> Edwin >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** >> >> >> >> Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in >> >> many cities worldwide (for a world list, see >> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces >> >> ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at >> >> http://nottinghack.org.uk/ >> >> ): >> >> >> >> "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. >> >> You?ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge >> >> of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, >> >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, >> >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." >> >> >> >> They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by >> >> pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their >> >> hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. >> >> However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of >> >> large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small >> >> beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating >> >> together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity >> >> for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own >> >> businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional >> >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and >> >> for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's >> >> third mission. >> >> >> >> To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up >> >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote >> >> Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government >> >> innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could >> >> be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places >> >> where such activities would fit. >> >> >> >> Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually >> >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. >> >> He noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool >> >> for government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring >> >> them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then >> >> step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the >> >> room come together and really take that data and solve things in >> >> creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? >> >> >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ >> >> >> >> NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44 >> >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at: >> >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon >> >> In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: >> >> >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving >> >> >> >> There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: >> >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page >> >> For a list of UK hacker spaces, >> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom >> >> Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace >> >> and Nottingham (listed above) >> >> >> >> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and >> >> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, >> >> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people >> >> might eventually become involved. >> >> >> >> We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker >> >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of >> >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of >> >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best >> >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by >> >> its members. >> >> >> >> ******************** >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >> URL: >> >> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/d1d35cf6/attachment-0001.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Message: 2 >> >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100 >> >> From: Gerrit Niezen >> >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised >> >> version - reply soon or never >> >> To: Edwin Beggs >> >> Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421 at gmail.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> >> >> Hi Edwin, >> >> >> >> Thanks for working on this. A few comments: >> >> >> >> - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space". >> >> We >> >> could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace". >> >> - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be >> >> "Collaborations >> >> such as hackerspaces" ? >> >> - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next >> >> paragraph >> >> - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the >> >> university. >> >> - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link >> >> to >> >> our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/ >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Gerrit >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the >> >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of >> >> the >> >> computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a >> >> couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send >> >> urgently. >> >> > >> >> > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace >> will >> >> have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university >> >> before >> >> deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, >> you >> >> have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" >> (silence >> >> implies consent). >> >> > >> >> > Edwin >> >> > >> >> > ******************************** >> >> > >> >> > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially >> >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as >> part >> >> of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, >> but >> >> it >> >> will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third >> mission >> >> is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address >> >> here. >> >> If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea >> Council. >> >> > >> >> > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science >> >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either >> >> edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think >> >> so, >> >> but you may think of possible problems... >> >> > >> >> > Edwin >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ************************************** >> >> > >> >> > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in >> many >> >> cities worldwide (for a world list, see >> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to >> >> quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/): >> >> > >> >> > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it?s for you. >> You?ll >> >> probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of >> >> electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography, >> >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation, >> >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects." >> >> > >> >> > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by >> pooling >> >> resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. >> It >> >> encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at >> >> the >> >> computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple >> and >> >> Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by >> a >> >> few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space >> >> offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to >> set >> >> up >> >> their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its >> traditional >> >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for >> >> this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third >> >> mission. >> >> > >> >> > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up >> >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote >> Chris >> >> Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on >> >> hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any >> >> organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such >> activities >> >> would fit. >> >> > >> >> > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually >> >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He >> >> noted that these events were exceptional as a ?sensemaking? tool for >> >> government, encouraging agencies to ??find groups of people, bring them >> >> together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step >> out >> >> of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come >> >> together and really take that data and solve things in creative and >> >> imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.? >> >> > >> >> >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/ >> >> > >> >> > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in >> 44 >> >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at: >> >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon >> >> > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is: >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving >> >> > >> >> > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation: >> >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page >> >> > For a list of UK hacker spaces, >> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom >> >> > Notable ones are London >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand >> >> > Nottingham (listed above) >> >> > >> >> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and >> hopes >> >> to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, >> without >> >> its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might >> >> eventually become involved. >> >> > >> >> > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker >> >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of >> >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of >> >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best >> >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by >> its >> >> members. >> >> > >> >> > ******************** >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Hackspace mailing list >> >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >> URL: >> >> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/b0e0ba7a/attachment.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hackspace mailing list >> >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> >> >> >> End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 >> >> *************************************** >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: >> > >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130906/0e747b00/attachment.html >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hackspace mailing list >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > >> > >> > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 >> > *************************************** >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The people > behind Opendesk also run Fablab (https://www.fabhub.io/), where you can > either list your services (CNC machining, 3D printing, laser cutting etc.) > or find people with expertise who can make your digital designs for you. > > Cheers, > Gerrit > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Tue Sep 10 18:04:33 2013 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:04:33 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: <201309101100.r8AB04cM004898@stoneship.org.uk> References: <201309101100.r8AB04cM004898@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: "This could be a way of making a bit of spare cash if we ever get access to a CNC cutter..." Im sure you mean, when we build one - dont you ;) Best Regards Graham Owens On 10 Sep 2013, at 12:00, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk wrote: > This could be a way of making a bit of spare cash if we ever get access to > a CNC cutter... From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Tue Sep 10 18:38:25 2013 From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:38:25 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: <201309101100.r8AB04cM004898@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: <20130910183825.74154f0a@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:04:33 +0100 Graham Owens wrote: > "This could be a way of making a bit of spare cash if we ever get access to > a CNC cutter..." > > Im sure you mean, when we build one - dont you ;) and excepting that at that point you are a "business" and that messes up all sorts of things you can do and get away with as a members society. From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 09:13:13 2013 From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:13:13 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: <20130910183825.74154f0a@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> References: <201309101100.r8AB04cM004898@stoneship.org.uk> <20130910183825.74154f0a@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> Message-ID: <8C7FAF4A-5FB9-4F40-A9DC-61E510DABFA7@gmail.com> This is an interesting point. Most hackspaces are registered as non-profit companies (also known as "company limited by guarantee"), which would allow us to sell services and products. Some other things hackspaces sell to keep running: - T-shirts, kits, art, gear, stickers - space rental - classes/workshops - access to space for events Other possible sources of funding include membership dues, donations and grants. On Sep 10, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:04:33 +0100 > Graham Owens wrote: > >> "This could be a way of making a bit of spare cash if we ever get access to >> a CNC cutter..." >> >> Im sure you mean, when we build one - dont you ;) > > and excepting that at that point you are a "business" and that messes up > all sorts of things you can do and get away with as a members society. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From N.Carter at swansea.ac.uk Wed Sep 11 13:50:18 2013 From: N.Carter at swansea.ac.uk (Carter N.) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:50:18 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 References: <201309101100.r8AB04cM004898@stoneship.org.uk><20130910183825.74154f0a@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> <8C7FAF4A-5FB9-4F40-A9DC-61E510DABFA7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F7FA2E0294A934CA0CD9E97BD580F8411DD95E0@CCS-EXCHANGE1.brynmill.swan.ac.uk> >Other possible sources of funding include membership dues, donations and grants. I'd add "repair service" to that. I dare say that there are many people with equipment that they'd rather repair than replace; perhaps it's of sentimental value, obscure, or very expensive to replace. I have a variety of electrical devices that are no longer fully functional, but repairing them requires resources beyond my own. I'd be willing to pay for such a service, especially since most repair shops will take on only commonplace devices. Might make for a source of interesting and rewarding projects; reuniting someone with the use of something they'd given up on, not to mention saving landfill. Cheers, Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at brecon.co.uk Wed Sep 11 13:59:49 2013 From: roger at brecon.co.uk (roger) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:59:49 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Promoting Hackspace and objectives Message-ID: <52306945.7050803@brecon.co.uk> Hi there I have been looking for a similar activity. Glad to see people are being pro active in Swansea. 1: When is the next meetup. 2: Is there a plan as far as how you are going to structure the club / charity/ I would also suggest taking your swansea university promotion and create a generic press release. Have you a current location to base the organisation. What have you tried so far. I live in between llandovery and Llandeilo. How many people do you have so far. I strated off in life as an electronics engineer but make a living from software development. regards Roger From justin at discordia.org.uk Wed Sep 11 14:36:38 2013 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:36:38 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Promoting Hackspace and objectives In-Reply-To: <52306945.7050803@brecon.co.uk> References: <52306945.7050803@brecon.co.uk> Message-ID: <1378906598.9588.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 13:59 +0100, roger wrote: > Hi there > I have been looking for a similar activity. Glad to see people are being > pro active in Swansea. > 1: When is the next meetup. Monday 23rd September 7pm, likely in the Pub on the Pond again We alternate between social and technical meetings, meeting every other week. > 2: Is there a plan as far as how you are going to structure the club / > charity/ Nothing definite yet, we have had various discussions about it, and there are lots of guidelines from existing spaces, but there seems little point in formalising before we get closer to acquiring a space. > Have you a current location to base the organisation. At the moment we hold technical meetings in rooms around the university, and social meetings wherever works best, although we have members that are actively chasing some potential homes for us, but we don't have anything just yet. > How many people do you have so far. There are 57 people on the mailing list, and 73 on the facebook page, and i would guess a pool of about 15-20 people who attend meetings semi-regularly. From timmoore47 at gmail.com Thu Sep 12 12:15:58 2013 From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <201309121100.r8CB05gL026615@stoneship.org.uk> References: <201309121100.r8CB05gL026615@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: Its essential to state what items you most want fixing. I do know someone who is very good at this sort of thing. If its a broken PDP8 then you are on your own ! : )) Tim_1 On 12 September 2013 12:00, wrote: > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Carter N.) > 2. Promoting Hackspace and objectives (roger) > 3. Re: Promoting Hackspace and objectives (Justin Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:50:18 +0100 > From: "Carter N." > Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 > To: > Message-ID: > < > 9F7FA2E0294A934CA0CD9E97BD580F8411DD95E0 at CCS-EXCHANGE1.brynmill.swan.ac.uk > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >Other possible sources of funding include membership dues, donations and > grants. > > I'd add "repair service" to that. > > I dare say that there are many people with equipment that they'd rather > repair than replace; perhaps it's of sentimental value, obscure, or very > expensive to replace. > > I have a variety of electrical devices that are no longer fully > functional, but repairing them requires resources beyond my own. I'd be > willing to pay for such a service, especially since most repair shops will > take on only commonplace devices. Might make for a source of interesting > and rewarding projects; reuniting someone with the use of something they'd > given up on, not to mention saving landfill. > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130911/c537218f/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:59:49 +0100 > From: roger > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Promoting Hackspace and objectives > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <52306945.7050803 at brecon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi there > I have been looking for a similar activity. Glad to see people are being > pro active in Swansea. > 1: When is the next meetup. > 2: Is there a plan as far as how you are going to structure the club / > charity/ > > I would also suggest taking your swansea university promotion and create > a generic press release. > Have you a current location to base the organisation. > What have you tried so far. > I live in between llandovery and Llandeilo. > How many people do you have so far. > I strated off in life as an electronics engineer but make a living from > software development. > > regards > Roger > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:36:38 +0100 > From: Justin Mitchell > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Promoting Hackspace and objectives > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <1378906598.9588.19.camel at justin.llw.rokcorp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 13:59 +0100, roger wrote: > > Hi there > > I have been looking for a similar activity. Glad to see people are being > > pro active in Swansea. > > > 1: When is the next meetup. > Monday 23rd September 7pm, likely in the Pub on the Pond again > > We alternate between social and technical meetings, meeting every other > week. > > > 2: Is there a plan as far as how you are going to structure the club / > > charity/ > Nothing definite yet, we have had various discussions about it, and > there are lots of guidelines from existing spaces, but there seems > little point in formalising before we get closer to acquiring a space. > > > Have you a current location to base the organisation. > > At the moment we hold technical meetings in rooms around the university, > and social meetings wherever works best, although we have members that > are actively chasing some potential homes for us, but we don't have > anything just yet. > > > How many people do you have so far. > There are 57 people on the mailing list, and 73 on the facebook page, > and i would guess a pool of about 15-20 people who attend meetings > semi-regularly. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 9 > *************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at brecon.co.uk Tue Sep 17 14:04:20 2013 From: roger at brecon.co.uk (roger) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:04:20 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth Message-ID: <52385354.3050706@brecon.co.uk> Hi there Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> bluetooth project Initially I want to be able to use variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to (mobile device/pc) This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic programmer. I probably have the programing experience to sort out the android/pc/ipad side of things. Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the equation. I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to purchase a seperate blue tooth module. regards roger From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Tue Sep 17 14:11:45 2013 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:11:45 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth In-Reply-To: <52385354.3050706@brecon.co.uk> References: <52385354.3050706@brecon.co.uk> Message-ID: There is (as far as I know, no PIC with built in radio) the jy-mcu is a strate replacement for a serial cable (FTDI/Cypress/etc) So It should be easy enough, either pars strings, or have a hard & fixed data format, depends on what stuff you send/revive On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM, roger wrote: > Hi there > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> > bluetooth project > Initially I want to be able to use > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to (mobile > device/pc) > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / > robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic > programmer. > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the android/pc/ipad > side of things. > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the equation. > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to > purchase a seperate blue tooth module. > > regards > roger > > ______________________________**_________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.**org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 17 Sep 2013, at 14:04, roger wrote: > Hi there > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> bluetooth project > Initially I want to be able to use > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to (mobile device/pc) > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic programmer. > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the android/pc/ipad side of things. > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the equation. > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to purchase a seperate blue tooth module. > > regards > roger > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Wed Sep 18 09:19:01 2013 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:19:01 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth In-Reply-To: <52385354.3050706@brecon.co.uk> References: <52385354.3050706@brecon.co.uk> Message-ID: <1379492341.11365.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> On Tue, 2013-09-17 at 14:04 +0100, roger wrote: > Hi there > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> > bluetooth project > Initially I want to be able to use > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to > (mobile device/pc) > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / > robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic > programmer. > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the > android/pc/ipad side of things. > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the equation. > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to > purchase a seperate blue tooth module. I don't think anyone makes microcontrollers with bluetooth onboard, it always requires an external module, usually one that has all the relevant approvals attached. I have a couple of modules on order (from hongkong) at the moment, everyone seems to be selling more or less the same ones, and they appear as just a normal ttl serial port, talk to it with the uart on your chosen PIC. Afaics before they connect they will talk AT commands, so you can configure baud rate etc, then once paired and connected to a bluetooth device they act just as a serial port. on the PC end it will appear as an rfcomm device. So programming the PIC side will be the usual serial port handling, as covered in one of my earlier tutorials, and is something that will be covered again in the near future. From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Wed Sep 18 09:23:16 2013 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:23:16 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Almost FREE dev board Message-ID: There is an offer on at the minuet, a low pin count MBED M0 dev board, the new LPC810 - MAX board, for ONE Euro !!! which is built in an audweeno & MBED footprint. http://www.nxp.com/campaigns/lpc800-go/form-challenge from: http://mbed.org/blog/entry/NXPs-new-LPC800-MAX-board-one-euro/ Unfortunately company email address only :( But if every one in work applies then lots of almost free boards.... It did take a week to get the reply email, and I believe only 500 are available, so please get applying.... Cheers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 18 September 2013 09:23, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > There is an offer on at the minuet, a low pin count MBED M0 dev board, > > the new LPC810 - MAX board, for ONE Euro !!! > > which is built in an audweeno & MBED footprint. > > http://www.nxp.com/campaigns/lpc800-go/form-challenge > > from: http://mbed.org/blog/entry/NXPs-new-LPC800-MAX-board-one-euro/ > > > Unfortunately company email address only :( > > But if every one in work applies then lots of almost free boards.... > > It did take a week to get the reply email, > > and I believe only 500 are available, so please get applying.... > > Cheers > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I guess I'll wait and see whether I get > a voucher (or spam)! > > > On 18 September 2013 09:23, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > >> There is an offer on at the minuet, a low pin count MBED M0 dev board, >> >> the new LPC810 - MAX board, for ONE Euro !!! >> >> which is built in an audweeno & MBED footprint. >> >> http://www.nxp.com/campaigns/lpc800-go/form-challenge >> >> from: http://mbed.org/blog/entry/NXPs-new-LPC800-MAX-board-one-euro/ >> >> >> Unfortunately company email address only :( >> >> But if every one in work applies then lots of almost free boards.... >> >> It did take a week to get the reply email, >> >> and I believe only 500 are available, so please get applying.... >> >> Cheers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From justin at discordia.org.uk Wed Sep 18 14:43:29 2013 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:43:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Hackspace Community Meeting Message-ID: <1379511809.11365.21.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> Monday 23rd September 7pm Pub on the Pond, Singleton Park Social and Community meeting. Next Technical Meeting will be Mon 7th October. From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Thu Sep 19 10:39:15 2013 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:39:15 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <201309181100.r8IB04Lu018526@stoneship.org.uk> References: <201309181100.r8IB04Lu018526@stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: I have just claimed the LPC810 offer, so will see what its like when it gets here, also on the blue-tooth side - i have many projects using the RN-41 module, I can bring a few on Monday to show you. They are on PIC boards, and also have an android client that talks to it. Its very easy (certainly from 'C' as you can just use printf etc.) Graham On 18 September 2013 12:00, wrote: > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. help with pic to bluetooth (roger) > 2. Re: help with pic to bluetooth (Ceri Clatworthy) > 3. Re: help with pic to bluetooth (Gerrit Niezen) > 4. MBED board for ?1 (Ceri Clatworthy) > 5. Re: help with pic to bluetooth (Justin Mitchell) > 6. Almost FREE dev board (Ceri Clatworthy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:04:20 +0100 > From: roger > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <52385354.3050706 at brecon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi there > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> > bluetooth project > Initially I want to be able to use > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to > (mobile device/pc) > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / > robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic > programmer. > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the > android/pc/ipad side of things. > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the equation. > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to > purchase a seperate blue tooth module. > > regards > roger > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:11:45 +0100 > From: Ceri Clatworthy > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth > To: roger > Cc: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" > > Message-ID: > DJn_t4x2s5YD7VLETga_jppVf0cPb6uP4zR+mBpv82fQ-NA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > There is (as far as I know, no PIC with built in radio) > > the jy-mcu is a strate replacement for a serial cable (FTDI/Cypress/etc) > > So It should be easy enough, > either pars strings, or have a hard & fixed data format, > > depends on what stuff you send/revive > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM, roger wrote: > > > Hi there > > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> > > bluetooth project > > Initially I want to be able to use > > > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to (mobile > > device/pc) > > > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / > > robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic > > programmer. > > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the android/pc/ipad > > side of things. > > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the > equation. > > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to > > purchase a seperate blue tooth module. > > > > regards > > roger > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.**org.uk > > > http://stoneship.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hackspace< > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130917/25007732/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:47:52 +0100 > From: Gerrit Niezen > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth > To: roger > Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <38B92DD5-2D03-41AA-988B-F5C24D1D3E08 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Depending on your application, it may be worthwhile looking into Bluetooth > Low Energy (aka Bluetooth Smart). For prototyping, there is a nice module > by RedBearLabs (http://redbearlab.com/blemini/) using the TI CC2540 chip. > I have their BLE Shield that plugs into an Arduino ( > http://redbearlab.com/bleshield/), but it's not that versatile. > > On 17 Sep 2013, at 14:04, roger wrote: > > > Hi there > > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> > bluetooth project > > Initially I want to be able to use > > > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to > (mobile device/pc) > > > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / > robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic > programmer. > > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the > android/pc/ipad side of things. > > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the > equation. > > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to > purchase a seperate blue tooth module. > > > > regards > > roger > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130917/3c83b9b5/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 06:54:56 +0100 > From: Ceri Clatworthy > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] MBED board for ?1 > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" > > Message-ID: > DJn8-T5dpwKcoezyxV6pErZHXZGc34n+J6RHE5K66ZoQq1g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > There is an offer on at the minuet, > the new LPC810 - MAX board, for ONE Euro !!! > > which is built in an audweeno & MBED footprint. > > http://www.nxp.com/campaigns/lpc800-go/form-challenge > > from: http://mbed.org/blog/entry/NXPs-new-LPC800-MAX-board-one-euro/ > > > Unfortunately company email address only :( > > But if every one in work applies then lots of almost free boards.... > > It did take a week to get the reply email, > > and I believe only 500 are available, so please get applying.... > > Cheers > > Ceri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130918/5fe33c01/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:19:01 +0100 > From: Justin Mitchell > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] help with pic to bluetooth > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Message-ID: <1379492341.11365.5.camel at justin.llw.rokcorp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Tue, 2013-09-17 at 14:04 +0100, roger wrote: > > Hi there > > Anyone interested in helping me with a project to connect a pic -> > > bluetooth project > > Initially I want to be able to use > > > > variable voltage -> pic-device->blue tooth ------ blue tooth to > > (mobile device/pc) > > > > This could be used in all sorts of projects including data loggers / > > robots / pc / scopes/ test equipment etc. > > > > I do have several blue tooth transmitters and some pics and a pic > > programmer. > > I probably have the programing experience to sort out the > > android/pc/ipad side of things. > > Being a php/c#/vb/perl programmer > > > > My area of lacking is the pic programming/blue tooth side of the > equation. > > I have a jy-mcu 3.6v-6v blue tooth module. > > > > Is it possible to get a pic with blue tooth included or do you have to > > purchase a seperate blue tooth module. > I don't think anyone makes microcontrollers with bluetooth onboard, it > always requires an external module, usually one that has all the > relevant approvals attached. > > I have a couple of modules on order (from hongkong) at the moment, > everyone seems to be selling more or less the same ones, and they appear > as just a normal ttl serial port, talk to it with the uart on your > chosen PIC. > > Afaics before they connect they will talk AT commands, so you can > configure baud rate etc, then once paired and connected to a bluetooth > device they act just as a serial port. on the PC end it will appear as > an rfcomm device. > > So programming the PIC side will be the usual serial port handling, as > covered in one of my earlier tutorials, and is something that will be > covered again in the near future. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:23:16 +0100 > From: Ceri Clatworthy > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Almost FREE dev board > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" > > Message-ID: > DJn_zscyvPmaLZ8HjQn5GhgWdZqiLXUu8kY1jPY9M12CrSg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > There is an offer on at the minuet, a low pin count MBED M0 dev board, > > the new LPC810 - MAX board, for ONE Euro !!! > > which is built in an audweeno & MBED footprint. > > http://www.nxp.com/campaigns/lpc800-go/form-challenge > > from: http://mbed.org/blog/entry/NXPs-new-LPC800-MAX-board-one-euro/ > > > Unfortunately company email address only :( > > But if every one in work applies then lots of almost free boards.... > > It did take a week to get the reply email, > > and I believe only 500 are available, so please get applying.... > > Cheers > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/pipermail/hackspace/attachments/20130918/8c4d4c6d/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > End of Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11 > **************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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