From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  3 06:01:20 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 06:01:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1391256001.9161.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
References: <mailman.1.1391256001.9161.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOvxJA973qg3sntYkvmtfM=E5ygqpopvG=VEOFETdd0ag@mail.gmail.com>

OT:-  I just received news of this:-

PiCymru - Swansea Raspberry Jam  Douglas Gore
<http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/douglas-gore-5945699583?s=21513481> Saturday,
8 March 2014 from 13:30 to 17:30 (GMT)
*TechHub Swansea*
 11 Wind Street
SA1 1DP Swansea

:  )

Tim_1


On 1 February 2014 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>wrote:

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> This is their www site:-
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> http://www.indexdata.com/zebra
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> Seems a tad specialised...
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> Tim_1
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> On 31 January 2014 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:01:31 +0000
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> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 13, Issue 11
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> > Many thanks for the details, I'll be there.
> >
> > OT:-   I learnt of 'Zebra' running on Linux, but what is it ?  Can a
> simple
> > flat database
> >  be created from within it ?
> >
> > :  )
> >
> > Tim_1
> >
> >
> > On 30 January 2014 12:00, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> > > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:24:54 +0000
> > > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Tech Meeting - Mon 3rd feb
> > >         2014
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> > > 7pm Monday 3rd Feb 2014 - Volcano, 229 High St, Swansea.
> > >
> > > Technical Meeting - Further adventures in 3D printing.
> > >
> > > A gentle guide to how a 3D printer works and its limitations, where to
> > > find objects to print, and how you go about printing them. Also
> covering
> > > a few simple and easy to use ways of creating your own 3D objects.
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> > On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 13:01 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
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> > > OT:-   I learnt of 'Zebra' running on Linux, but what is it ?  Can a
> > > simple flat database
> > >
> > >  be created from within it ?
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> > The only Zebra project i'm aware of is the BGP / Multicast advanced
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sun Feb 16 10:07:21 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:07:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Community Meeting, Mon 17th Feb
Message-ID: <1392545241.3474.2.camel@quartz.geode.org.uk>

Community / Social Meeting
7pm Mon 17th Feb 2014
Back room, Static Rock Bar, Kingsway, Swansea.

This month we are trying out a new venue, we have booked the back room
at Static bar on the kingsway for the evening, with assurances that
there is no live music in the main bar, so it should be nice and quiet
with plenty of space for us.



From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Feb 18 11:26:41 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:26:41 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ideas for future tech meetings
Message-ID: <1392722801.12236.10.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

I have been racking my brain for ideas for future tech meetings,
can people please let me know what they think of the following:

1) Another lightning talks session, its been a while since the last of
these, although volcano might not be ideal for this so we will have to
find another venue for that.

2) Re-doing the electronics starter kits but adding an Ardunio, and
re-working the previous tutorials for it. Arduino nano boards can be
sourced for about ?5 each

3) Decorative chain mail. people will get to make and keep a small
keyring like this: http://i.imgur.com/X1M6TF1.jpg


Any other suggestions ?
Remember that it has to be something that can be done in just one or two
2 hour sessions, be portable, and not require any specialist tools.




From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Feb 19 10:43:45 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:43:45 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ideas for future tech meetings
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oNt0NaK2KEyd8ieMe7-OVg8OhGy3JrrW8X=nBazpUexLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1392722801.12236.10.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAAEY5oNt0NaK2KEyd8ieMe7-OVg8OhGy3JrrW8X=nBazpUexLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1392806625.26745.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

I had wondered if this might interest a few more people as i believe
that new chap, Dave was it ? (sorry, i am terrible at names), mentioned
he would be interested in an Arduino course.

It had been said by some of the more experienced members that Arduino
made things -too- easy, but then that's the appeal to the beginner, so i
think it is worth exploring.

Does anyone have an opinion on which format Arduino to use ?

I had suggested the nano because clones of it are the cheapest board,
and it fits nicely on a breadboard, but it doesnt take standard
"shields"

And would it be better to get numbers and place a bulk order, or let
people bring their own ?



On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 20:47 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> Number 2 is my favourite using atduino nano

> Tim_1
> 
> On Tuesday, 18 February 2014, Justin Mitchell
> <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>         I have been racking my brain for ideas for future tech
>         meetings,
>         can people please let me know what they think of the
>         following:
>         
>         1) Another lightning talks session, its been a while since the
>         last of
>         these, although volcano might not be ideal for this so we will
>         have to
>         find another venue for that.
>         
>         2) Re-doing the electronics starter kits but adding an
>         Ardunio, and
>         re-working the previous tutorials for it. Arduino nano boards
>         can be
>         sourced for about ?5 each
>         
>         3) Decorative chain mail. people will get to make and keep a
>         small
>         keyring like this: http://i.imgur.com/X1M6TF1.jpg
>         
>         
>         Any other suggestions ?
>         Remember that it has to be something that can be done in just
>         one or two
>         2 hour sessions, be portable, and not require any specialist
>         tools.





From T.Davies at swansea.ac.uk  Wed Feb 19 21:47:24 2014
From: T.Davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:47:24 -0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ideas for future tech meetings
References: <1392722801.12236.10.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com><CAAEY5oNt0NaK2KEyd8ieMe7-OVg8OhGy3JrrW8X=nBazpUexLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1392806625.26745.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <7B320B507C445840BD72C998A0B871DB0CB294CD@CCS-EXCHANGE1.brynmill.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Justin et al,

Regarding the "best" Arduino to use,
I am a great believer in using "standard"
components, so my suggestion is the Uno or one
of its clones. This has a standard pinout which
suits most of the shields out there without any
modifications. The nano, as I recall, is too small
for the direct connection of shields.

regards

Timothy Davies



-----Original Message-----
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk on behalf of Justin Mitchell
Sent: Wed 2/19/2014 10:43 AM
To: hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Ideas for future tech meetings
 
I had wondered if this might interest a few more people as i believe
that new chap, Dave was it ? (sorry, i am terrible at names), mentioned
he would be interested in an Arduino course.

It had been said by some of the more experienced members that Arduino
made things -too- easy, but then that's the appeal to the beginner, so i
think it is worth exploring.

Does anyone have an opinion on which format Arduino to use ?

I had suggested the nano because clones of it are the cheapest board,
and it fits nicely on a breadboard, but it doesnt take standard
"shields"

And would it be better to get numbers and place a bulk order, or let
people bring their own ?



On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 20:47 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> Number 2 is my favourite using atduino nano

> Tim_1
> 
> On Tuesday, 18 February 2014, Justin Mitchell
> <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>         I have been racking my brain for ideas for future tech
>         meetings,
>         can people please let me know what they think of the
>         following:
>         
>         1) Another lightning talks session, its been a while since the
>         last of
>         these, although volcano might not be ideal for this so we will
>         have to
>         find another venue for that.
>         
>         2) Re-doing the electronics starter kits but adding an
>         Ardunio, and
>         re-working the previous tutorials for it. Arduino nano boards
>         can be
>         sourced for about ?5 each
>         
>         3) Decorative chain mail. people will get to make and keep a
>         small
>         keyring like this: http://i.imgur.com/X1M6TF1.jpg
>         
>         
>         Any other suggestions ?
>         Remember that it has to be something that can be done in just
>         one or two
>         2 hour sessions, be portable, and not require any specialist
>         tools.



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From roger at brecon.co.uk  Thu Feb 20 10:40:24 2014
From: roger at brecon.co.uk (roger)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:40:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino NAno ebay
Message-ID: <5305DB98.3030705@brecon.co.uk>

Hi there
I would be interested in the arduino course using a nano. Presently yoiu 
can buy them on ebay for ?8.50
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/arduino-nano
Is it worth buying.
Roger Parker


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Feb 20 11:04:27 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:04:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino NAno ebay
In-Reply-To: <5305DB98.3030705@brecon.co.uk>
References: <5305DB98.3030705@brecon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1392894267.8461.12.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 10:40 +0000, roger wrote:
> Hi there
> I would be interested in the arduino course using a nano. Presently yoiu 
> can buy them on ebay for ?8.50
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/arduino-nano
> Is it worth buying.
> Roger Parker

If you can wait the two weeks for delivery then a nano should cost less
than ?5 from china, which is how i got mine.   eg this one for ?4.45
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Nano-V3_0-ATmega328P-AU-Microcontroller-Board-With-USB-Cable-p-68535.html
or one like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161223379474

I am coming around to the idea that we should be promoting one of the
shield compatible arduino formats, which will allow for easy addition of
a whole stack of extra features later without changing the main board.

that said, a nano isnt a dead end as there is an Sensor shield expansion
board for it (?2.11) that gives it a Uno compatible pinout, as well as a
pile of other connectors.
http://www.banggood.com/Multi-Sensor-Shield-Sensor-Expansion-Board-For-Arduino-Nano-UNO-p-916224.html

the Uno itself is available from ?6.17 bought in bulk
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-lot-UNO-PCB-USB-Board-MEGA328P-ATMega8U2-USB-Cable-for-Arduino-Compatible-DIY-Geek-Open/1132017123.html

Also theres the Mega2560, (approx ?9 and up) which is compatible with
standard uno shields, as well as its own more powerful mega shields,
such as the RAMPS board which drives a typical RepRap style 3d printer.
http://www.banggood.com/Mega2560-R3-ATmega2560-16AU-Control-Board-With-USB-Cable-For-Arduino-p-73020.html


It doesn't seem to make that much of a difference to the software which
board you choose, they all have the same basic core features, just some
more so than others, it comes down more to where people would like to go
with it later.




From jon at gittoes.org  Fri Feb 21 04:39:09 2014
From: jon at gittoes.org (Jon Gittoes)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:39:09 +0800
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ideas for future tech meetings
In-Reply-To: <7B320B507C445840BD72C998A0B871DB0CB294CD@CCS-EXCHANGE1.brynmill.swan.ac.uk>
References: <1392722801.12236.10.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAAEY5oNt0NaK2KEyd8ieMe7-OVg8OhGy3JrrW8X=nBazpUexLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1392806625.26745.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<7B320B507C445840BD72C998A0B871DB0CB294CD@CCS-EXCHANGE1.brynmill.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAOm8E4_tVh+P9oQL14UwJYKbxnc8g9o9v5BnvDcD1Bx3r-zGcw@mail.gmail.com>

I'd go along with that.

Start with the Uno as it's easy and accessible, at some point you can then
do a session on taking your Arduino based project and running it on a
barebones AVR chip.

There is nothing to stop anyone using a Nano if they prefer, but for lab
work, the larger Uno with its standard pins is just easier.

Cheers

Jon


On 20 February 2014 05:47, Davies T. <T.Davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

>  Dear Justin et al,
>
> Regarding the "best" Arduino to use,
> I am a great believer in using "standard"
> components, so my suggestion is the Uno or one
> of its clones. This has a standard pinout which
> suits most of the shields out there without any
> modifications. The nano, as I recall, is too small
> for the direct connection of shields.
>
> regards
>
> Timothy Davies
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk on behalf of Justin
> Mitchell
> Sent: Wed 2/19/2014 10:43 AM
> To: hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Ideas for future tech meetings
>
> I had wondered if this might interest a few more people as i believe
> that new chap, Dave was it ? (sorry, i am terrible at names), mentioned
> he would be interested in an Arduino course.
>
> It had been said by some of the more experienced members that Arduino
> made things -too- easy, but then that's the appeal to the beginner, so i
> think it is worth exploring.
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on which format Arduino to use ?
>
> I had suggested the nano because clones of it are the cheapest board,
> and it fits nicely on a breadboard, but it doesnt take standard
> "shields"
>
> And would it be better to get numbers and place a bulk order, or let
> people bring their own ?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 20:47 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> > Number 2 is my favourite using atduino nano
>
> > Tim_1
> >
> > On Tuesday, 18 February 2014, Justin Mitchell
> > <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
> >         I have been racking my brain for ideas for future tech
> >         meetings,
> >         can people please let me know what they think of the
> >         following:
> >
> >         1) Another lightning talks session, its been a while since the
> >         last of
> >         these, although volcano might not be ideal for this so we will
> >         have to
> >         find another venue for that.
> >
> >         2) Re-doing the electronics starter kits but adding an
> >         Ardunio, and
> >         re-working the previous tutorials for it. Arduino nano boards
> >         can be
> >         sourced for about ?5 each
> >
> >         3) Decorative chain mail. people will get to make and keep a
> >         small
> >         keyring like this: http://i.imgur.com/X1M6TF1.jpg
> >
> >
> >         Any other suggestions ?
> >         Remember that it has to be something that can be done in just
> >         one or two
> >         2 hour sessions, be portable, and not require any specialist
> >         tools.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Feb 27 10:59:04 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:59:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Technical Meeting - Mon 3rd March
	2014
Message-ID: <1393498744.15049.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

7pm Monday 3rd March 2014
Volcano, 224 High Street, Swansea.

Decorative Chain Mail - Making a small decorative keyring. There will be
a step-by-step guide to making your choice of colourful keyring chain
which you get to keep. Attendees will require two small pliers, smaller
pointy nosed ones are the best choice, all other materials will be
provided. 

There will also be a discussion on plans for the upcoming Arduino
tutorials, we would like to hear what people would like to get out of
it.

Plus, as always, you can bring along any other gadgets, ideas, or
problems you have.