From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov  1 01:00:27 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 01:00:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <1414777783.1107.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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Good plan!

On Friday, 31 October 2014, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 11:26 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> > Will the hackspace keep the modules or will they be given to those
> > attending? If it is possible that the space keeps at least one so
> > members can try it out then that would be brilliant.
>
> We would like to keep them as a resource for all members, to run future
> workshops, and for people to experiment with.
>
> As usual, the price for us having these nice toys is that we need to
> post some instructables, this time they require just 2 projects.
>
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Nov  1 09:24:59 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 09:24:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
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On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 23:15 +0000, Neil Jones wrote:
> On 31/10/14 17:49, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> > On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 11:26 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> >
> >> Will the hackspace keep the modules or will they be given to those
> >> attending? If it is possible that the space keeps at least one so
> >> members can try it out then that would be brilliant.
> > We would like to keep them as a resource for all members, to run future
> > workshops, and for people to experiment with.
> >
> > As usual, the price for us having these nice toys is that we need to
> > post some instructables, this time they require just 2 projects.
> >
> Have we just been given the Spark Cores or maker kits?. See this video 
> about 1 minute in for a description
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxda0hXtJz8

I'm sure we mentioned it before, but here is the link to the event
announcement which lists all the stuff we were sent and links to info
about it.

http://www.instructables.com/community/November-2014-Build-Night-with-Sparkio/





From testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 18:00:31 2014
From: testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com (Pierre Papon)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 18:00:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC
Message-ID: <A6AE7CF5-1DE6-48B5-81D4-37C4ED445747@gmail.com>

Are you guys planning on getting the CNC working today?

Would be great seeing it working!

Pierre


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Nov  3 22:13:21 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:13:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC
In-Reply-To: <A6AE7CF5-1DE6-48B5-81D4-37C4ED445747@gmail.com>
References: <A6AE7CF5-1DE6-48B5-81D4-37C4ED445747@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1415052801.24123.13.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 18:00 +0000, Pierre Papon wrote:
> Are you guys planning on getting the CNC working today?
> 
> Would be great seeing it working!

Sorry, didn't work on that tonight,
although i do plan to be working on it this saturday.
I should be there from late morning onwards, 
and i believe tim clark also plans to be there that day working on the
3d printer upgrades.






From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov  3 22:25:23 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 22:25:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC
In-Reply-To: <1415052801.24123.13.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <A6AE7CF5-1DE6-48B5-81D4-37C4ED445747@gmail.com>
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I'll be in to during the day, asking stupid questions, getting in the way
and hopefully writing some arduino code to try and do something useful.

On 3 November 2014 22:13, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 18:00 +0000, Pierre Papon wrote:
> > Are you guys planning on getting the CNC working today?
> >
> > Would be great seeing it working!
>
> Sorry, didn't work on that tonight,
> although i do plan to be working on it this saturday.
> I should be there from late morning onwards,
> and i believe tim clark also plans to be there that day working on the
> 3d printer upgrades.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov  3 22:31:46 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 22:31:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An even led glow approx 2" diameter
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4RWTMDs5yHMcxKFzaLOXdbNS6xSQSH1DuP1fQrU_A8wHg@mail.gmail.com>

I decided im going to use this new fangled arduino uno to make a 'Status'
indicator next to me tv to alert me to some key information.

the tv is 50" so im thinking something like a pod with 3x 2" diameter
circles for indication to put on the top right of the tv, just above the
edge.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get a nice even glow from leds over a 2
inch area, im trying to avoid bright spots in it.  I would normally use
something like EL sheet for this, but dont have any left - i do however
have a big bag of white leds.  Any suggestions how to lay them out, do i
light from the back or sides?  has anyone done anything similar?

Thanks

Graham
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov  3 23:09:12 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 23:09:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An even led glow approx 2" diameter
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4RWTMDs5yHMcxKFzaLOXdbNS6xSQSH1DuP1fQrU_A8wHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RWTMDs5yHMcxKFzaLOXdbNS6xSQSH1DuP1fQrU_A8wHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7O+KB9mJ_9iPJkq7kGsoRr=95NJMzc4sn2NVk9nbrL29g@mail.gmail.com>

I used the DISCO lamp from B&Q - they had a 9 LED version but they seem to
have discontinued that, they do still have a 3 LED version.

I ripped out the random RGB LEDs and replaced them with ADDRESSABLE RGB
LEDs...

I brought it along to SWAMP

This is the 3LED one

http://www.diy.com/departments/lights-by-bq-disco-3-balls-led-table-lamp/212365_BQ.prd

not cheep, but it is stylish and sits nicely in my office.

I must admit I bought mine when it was reduced in the Jan Sales.

On 3 November 2014 22:31, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I decided im going to use this new fangled arduino uno to make a 'Status'
> indicator next to me tv to alert me to some key information.
>
> the tv is 50" so im thinking something like a pod with 3x 2" diameter
> circles for indication to put on the top right of the tv, just above the
> edge.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas how to get a nice even glow from leds over a 2
> inch area, im trying to avoid bright spots in it.  I would normally use
> something like EL sheet for this, but dont have any left - i do however
> have a big bag of white leds.  Any suggestions how to lay them out, do i
> light from the back or sides?  has anyone done anything similar?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov  3 23:16:05 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 23:16:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An even led glow approx 2" diameter
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7O+KB9mJ_9iPJkq7kGsoRr=95NJMzc4sn2NVk9nbrL29g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RWTMDs5yHMcxKFzaLOXdbNS6xSQSH1DuP1fQrU_A8wHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7O+KB9mJ_9iPJkq7kGsoRr=95NJMzc4sn2NVk9nbrL29g@mail.gmail.com>
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I've kept loads of those washing machine liquid balls, they are lovely
diffusers, always thought they would be great to place a LED inside...

On 3 November 2014 23:09, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I used the DISCO lamp from B&Q - they had a 9 LED version but they seem to
> have discontinued that, they do still have a 3 LED version.
>
> I ripped out the random RGB LEDs and replaced them with ADDRESSABLE RGB
> LEDs...
>
> I brought it along to SWAMP
>
> This is the 3LED one
>
>
> http://www.diy.com/departments/lights-by-bq-disco-3-balls-led-table-lamp/212365_BQ.prd
>
> not cheep, but it is stylish and sits nicely in my office.
>
> I must admit I bought mine when it was reduced in the Jan Sales.
>
> On 3 November 2014 22:31, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I decided im going to use this new fangled arduino uno to make a 'Status'
>> indicator next to me tv to alert me to some key information.
>>
>> the tv is 50" so im thinking something like a pod with 3x 2" diameter
>> circles for indication to put on the top right of the tv, just above the
>> edge.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas how to get a nice even glow from leds over a 2
>> inch area, im trying to avoid bright spots in it.  I would normally use
>> something like EL sheet for this, but dont have any left - i do however
>> have a big bag of white leds.  Any suggestions how to lay them out, do i
>> light from the back or sides?  has anyone done anything similar?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 06:28:59 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 06:28:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An even led glow approx 2" diameter
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7P1kRL3o=nc51rWK3Dy9A6f_Lcak-_2UpapRDKeNhff3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RWTMDs5yHMcxKFzaLOXdbNS6xSQSH1DuP1fQrU_A8wHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7O+KB9mJ_9iPJkq7kGsoRr=95NJMzc4sn2NVk9nbrL29g@mail.gmail.com>
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Most any frosted plastic will give an even distribution. Especially if the
distance from LED to screen is 2 4 inch .
You could also use white paper tube.or 2 inch plastic tube with diffuser
Ceri
On 3 Nov 2014 23:16, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I've kept loads of those washing machine liquid balls, they are lovely
> diffusers, always thought they would be great to place a LED inside...
>
> On 3 November 2014 23:09, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I used the DISCO lamp from B&Q - they had a 9 LED version but they seem
>> to have discontinued that, they do still have a 3 LED version.
>>
>> I ripped out the random RGB LEDs and replaced them with ADDRESSABLE RGB
>> LEDs...
>>
>> I brought it along to SWAMP
>>
>> This is the 3LED one
>>
>>
>> http://www.diy.com/departments/lights-by-bq-disco-3-balls-led-table-lamp/212365_BQ.prd
>>
>> not cheep, but it is stylish and sits nicely in my office.
>>
>> I must admit I bought mine when it was reduced in the Jan Sales.
>>
>> On 3 November 2014 22:31, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I decided im going to use this new fangled arduino uno to make a
>>> 'Status' indicator next to me tv to alert me to some key information.
>>>
>>> the tv is 50" so im thinking something like a pod with 3x 2" diameter
>>> circles for indication to put on the top right of the tv, just above the
>>> edge.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas how to get a nice even glow from leds over a
>>> 2 inch area, im trying to avoid bright spots in it.  I would normally use
>>> something like EL sheet for this, but dont have any left - i do however
>>> have a big bag of white leds.  Any suggestions how to lay them out, do i
>>> light from the back or sides?  has anyone done anything similar?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> addressed.
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>>
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From paul.harwood at techhub.com  Tue Nov  4 12:58:03 2014
From: paul.harwood at techhub.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 12:58:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
Message-ID: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>

Hello,

I did mention this a while back but now it's getting a bit more desperate...

TechHub has a requirement that you can probably help with when you next meet if you want. We can pay associated costs but we really need to swap our buzzer handset for a portable one or something we can attach to - a chat client - a web page - - or a n other thing that could be portable - the world is our oyster. The set we have is a BELL 801 Issue 5 - cable connecting it is CAT-5E. I don't want to break this set but rather replicate it's functionality.

Could you see this as a project?

Cheers 

-- Paul


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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 13:26:33 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:26:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
Message-ID: <20141104132633.68ed31b5@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 12:58:03 +0000
Paul Harwood <paul.harwood at techhub.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I did mention this a while back but now it's getting a bit more desperate...
> 
> TechHub has a requirement that you can probably help with when you next meet if you want. We can pay associated costs but we really need to swap our buzzer handset for a portable one or something we can attach to - a chat client - a web page - - or a n other thing that could be portable - the world is our oyster. The set we have is a BELL 801 Issue 5 - cable connecting it is CAT-5E. I don't want to break this set but rather replicate it's functionality.

Somewhat non trivial for the voice parts as the voice signalling on it is
analogue. You've got a 12v call button connection (not too hard to wire),
a lock button wire (ground to common when pressed) and a lock monitor in
some cases (just drives an LED), oh and the expected 12v/0v

The microphone and speaker elements are pure analogue phone so you'd have
to use something like a VOIP box and re-code them then stream them over
ethernet or wifi (and voice over wifi always sucks)

A microcontroller monitoring I (V is 12v (ac or dc) O is the common, I is
the call button) might do some of the job I guess. They've even
thoughtfully left you some screw terminals and space in the case for it 8)






From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 13:27:35 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:27:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
Message-ID: <CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>

>From this thread (http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=152253) it
seems the wires mean the following:
1 =ringer
R/T = Speech to door/Speech from door
0 = common
Z = button one / buzzer to open door

Paul, what exactly do you want to do? If it's just to duplicate the ringer
and button that should be relatively straight-forward using relays and a
wireless doorbell or transceiver. Sending/receiving voice would be a bit
more challenging. Maybe a project for Spark.io build night? (i.e., connect
the intercom to the WiFi using a Spark Core)
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/Next


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Paul Harwood <paul.harwood at techhub.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I did mention this a while back but now it's getting a bit more
> desperate...
>
> TechHub has a requirement that you can probably help with when you next
> meet if you want. We can pay associated costs but we really need to swap
> our buzzer handset for a portable one or something we can attach to - a
> chat client - a web page - - or a n other thing that could be portable -
> the world is our oyster. The set we have is a BELL 801 Issue 5 - cable
> connecting it is CAT-5E. I don't want to break this set but rather
> replicate it's functionality.
>
> Could you see this as a project?
>
> Cheers
>
> -- Paul
>
>
> --
> Do you have a location-based app? Then you are eligible to be part of our
> partnership with Ordnance Survey <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>!
>
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> customers? Want to be based at TechHub <http://www.techhub.com/>?
>
> Then fill in this simple form
> <
> http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/docs/entry-forms/os-developer-challenge-2014-entry-form.pdf>
> to
> apply to be part of the programme, good luck!
>
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 13:30:11 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:30:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:27:35 +0000
Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> >From this thread (http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=152253) it
> seems the wires mean the following:
> 1 =ringer
> R/T = Speech to door/Speech from door
> 0 = common
> Z = button one / buzzer to open door
> 

From the fault finding manual

I Call button 12v to ring
R Microphone
O Common (for ring, speech, lock)
T Speaker
Z Lock button (Z shorts to O when lock pressed)
V 12v supply (AC or DC)
L Door monitor (BSX-LX, 500L only)


From paul at harwood-leon.com  Tue Nov  4 13:52:46 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:52:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
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Simply put - to answer the door remotely from within the building (not being tied to the handset).

Voice is required both ways really.

I am about to speak to the people who supply the other sets and will try to sell us something more expensive probably. If there's something we can donate to hackspace instead, then that would be cool.

Spark.io night sounds great! When will that happen though?

-- Paul

On 4 Nov 2014, at 13:27, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul, what exactly do you want to do? If it's just to duplicate the ringer and button that should be relatively straight-forward using relays and a wireless doorbell or transceiver. Sending/receiving voice would be a bit more challenging. Maybe a project for Spark.io build night? (i.e., connect the intercom to the WiFi using a Spark Core)
> 

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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 14:04:22 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:04:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <3CB4FAAE-7F3D-46D6-8766-ACFC3034EF3E@harwood-leon.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:52:46 +0000
Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> Simply put - to answer the door remotely from within the building (not being tied to the handset).
> 
> Voice is required both ways really.

Probably the best you can easily do for wireless operation is to have a
selectable pre-recorded messages so you can tell it to say

	"Your call is important to us, my pet human has been summoned"

or similar while you get the actual unit itself.

Beyond that you are into trying to wire it into a VOIP box as a handset.

Alan




From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 15:11:01 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:11:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <20141104140422.286838b5@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3CB4FAAE-7F3D-46D6-8766-ACFC3034EF3E@harwood-leon.com>
	<20141104140422.286838b5@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
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On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 14:04 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:52:46 +0000
> Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
> 
> > Simply put - to answer the door remotely from within the building (not being tied to the handset).
> > 
> > Voice is required both ways really.
> 
> Probably the best you can easily do for wireless operation is to have a
> selectable pre-recorded messages so you can tell it to say
> 
> 	"Your call is important to us, my pet human has been summoned"
> 
> or similar while you get the actual unit itself.
> 
> Beyond that you are into trying to wire it into a VOIP box as a handset.

I wonder if this could be done with a Raspberry Pi class device with a
USB audio adapter for interfacing with the door system.

but putting together the software for the portable end, assuming use of
a mobile phone or tablet, is non-trivial




From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov  4 15:36:47 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:36:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <1415113861.30813.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3CB4FAAE-7F3D-46D6-8766-ACFC3034EF3E@harwood-leon.com>
	<20141104140422.286838b5@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
	<1415113861.30813.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7N+106bAcCxiphcaMbd8hBcYd77NqLZiQPQ8rqZ7a66pQ@mail.gmail.com>

using a Pi could be good, because it wouldn't even need to be a mobile or a
tablet, a small but beautiful web interface accessible from any desk top
would also work

GPIO, USB Audio / In & Out... simple web front end - heck port forward to
it via a secure https portal and you could even buzz yourself in from the
gate / door! ;-)

#canofworms

On 4 November 2014 15:11, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 14:04 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:52:46 +0000
> > Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Simply put - to answer the door remotely from within the building (not
> being tied to the handset).
> > >
> > > Voice is required both ways really.
> >
> > Probably the best you can easily do for wireless operation is to have a
> > selectable pre-recorded messages so you can tell it to say
> >
> >       "Your call is important to us, my pet human has been summoned"
> >
> > or similar while you get the actual unit itself.
> >
> > Beyond that you are into trying to wire it into a VOIP box as a handset.
>
> I wonder if this could be done with a Raspberry Pi class device with a
> USB audio adapter for interfacing with the door system.
>
> but putting together the software for the portable end, assuming use of
> a mobile phone or tablet, is non-trivial
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 15:41:20 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:41:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7N+106bAcCxiphcaMbd8hBcYd77NqLZiQPQ8rqZ7a66pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 15:36 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> using a Pi could be good, because it wouldn't even need to be a mobile
> or a tablet, a small but beautiful web interface accessible from any
> desk top would also work
> 
> 
> GPIO, USB Audio / In & Out... simple web front end - heck port forward
> to it via a secure https portal and you could even buzz yourself in
> from the gate / door! ;-) 
> 
> 
> #canofworms

Can of worms is right, It wouldn't be a simple web interface though, not
for two-way audio, you'd need to mess about with WebRTC or an equivalent
to handle the realtime voice comms.





From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov  4 15:47:31 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:47:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <1415115680.30813.22.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3CB4FAAE-7F3D-46D6-8766-ACFC3034EF3E@harwood-leon.com>
	<20141104140422.286838b5@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
	<1415113861.30813.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7N+106bAcCxiphcaMbd8hBcYd77NqLZiQPQ8rqZ7a66pQ@mail.gmail.com>
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shame there isn't a camera on the buzzers downstairs ;-)

On 4 November 2014 15:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 15:36 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > using a Pi could be good, because it wouldn't even need to be a mobile
> > or a tablet, a small but beautiful web interface accessible from any
> > desk top would also work
> >
> >
> > GPIO, USB Audio / In & Out... simple web front end - heck port forward
> > to it via a secure https portal and you could even buzz yourself in
> > from the gate / door! ;-)
> >
> >
> > #canofworms
>
> Can of worms is right, It wouldn't be a simple web interface though, not
> for two-way audio, you'd need to mess about with WebRTC or an equivalent
> to handle the realtime voice comms.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 17:38:40 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:38:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <3CB4FAAE-7F3D-46D6-8766-ACFC3034EF3E@harwood-leon.com>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04/11/14 13:52, Paul Harwood wrote:
> Simply put - to answer the door remotely from within the building (not 
> being tied to the handset).
>
> Voice is required both ways really.
>
> I am about to speak to the people who supply the other sets and will 
> try to sell us something more expensive probably. If there's something 
> we can donate to hackspace instead, then that would be cool.
>
> Spark.io night sounds great! When will that happen though?
>
> -- Paul

That is the 22nd November.

May I offer something up which may or may not be feasible. Why not do 
this?  Have a Spark Core at either end to switch on low power FM radio 
transceivers for the audio, perhaps with something like this for the 
transmitter 
http://www.circuitsgallery.com/2012/09/simple-portable-FM-transmitter.html
and handle the door opening etc via digital signals. My concern is the 
quality of the audio if it is sent over wifi. Wifi signals can vary 
tremendously in quality across a building. They may appear to work well 
for computers which can check data and retransmit but these problems 
really could mess up audio. Alan has pointed out there are problems with 
the quality of the audio.
Why over complicate matters if using non-digital for part of the system 
works perfectly.

If this is needed earlier there is no reason why we can't submit it with 
our projects for the instructibles stuff later surely and we are looking 
for projects to submit?

You might also want to create some kind of buzz or bleep to attract the 
attention of the user but that is pretty trivial.

Neil


> On 4 Nov 2014, at 13:27, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com 
> <mailto:gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Paul, what exactly do you want to do? If it's just to duplicate the 
>> ringer and button that should be relatively straight-forward using 
>> relays and a wireless doorbell or transceiver. Sending/receiving 
>> voice would be a bit more challenging. Maybe a project for Spark.io 
>> build night? (i.e., connect the intercom to the WiFi using a Spark Core)
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 17:46:41 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:46:41 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <54590F20.3020206@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
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> this?  Have a Spark Core at either end to switch on low power FM radio 
> transceivers for the audio, perhaps with something like this for the 
> transmitter 
> http://www.circuitsgallery.com/2012/09/simple-portable-FM-transmitter.html

Because operating one like that is an offence in the UK and the range
you'd get on permitted power with the right approved equipment is also
measured in feet not yards.

Alan


From paul at harwood-leon.com  Tue Nov  4 18:49:04 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:49:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <20141104174641.35cd8c83@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
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What about http://proto-pic.co.uk/categories/wireless/xbee.html

mentioned here:

http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=73453.0

? Paul


On 4 Nov 2014, at 17:46, Alan Cox <alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> Because operating one like that is an offence in the UK and the range
> you'd get on permitted power with the right approved equipment is also
> measured in feet not yards.

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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Tue Nov  4 18:55:42 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:55:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
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Ah?  http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/Next

On 4 Nov 2014, at 13:52, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> Spark.io night sounds great! When will that happen though?

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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Nov  4 19:13:15 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:13:15 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Glad the space has the mini mill
Message-ID: <54592537.435ec20a.6dd8.ffffa501@mx.google.com>

Went down to the workshop just now to grab some resistors and my bench where the mini mill used to live is totally flooded.  Looks like I will be patching a roof tomorrow night ?

Luckily only minimal damage to a few boxes of passives and some wire that I left on the bench.

If you work in a shed or workshop and haven't been down for a few days, I would suggest that you go and take a look make sure that everything is okay with this bad weather we have been having.  If the mill was still sitting there it would have been wrecked - well the control box and pc at any rate.
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 20:25:32 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:25:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:49:04 +0000
Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> What about http://proto-pic.co.uk/categories/wireless/xbee.html
> 
> mentioned here:
> 
> http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=73453.0

Then you need to implement voice over IP or at least a packetised voice
stack with all that goes with it.

It all depends if you are willing to just remotely know about buzzing and
perhaps respond with automated hold messages (played by a directly
connected device)


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Nov  4 20:59:30 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:59:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <C946394B-0BDB-4B79-9FA1-95B044E167C8@harwood-leon.com>
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On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 18:49 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:
> What about http://proto-pic.co.uk/categories/wireless/xbee.html
> 
> 
> mentioned here:

XBee sell two main kinds of module afaics

ZigBee 10-100m low power modules.
WiFi modules.

neither help with the audio capture/playback part, which that article
seems to skip over the detail of, they just talk about saving power by
shutting down the wireless data when theres no audio to send

List of problems with possible answers

1. sense buzzer/call, activate door release
1a. easy, any I/O capable board will do; Arduino, RPi, Spark.io, etc

2. capture audio, and play audio to the wired connection
2a. an RPi with a USB sound card type device
2b. A2D and D2A convertors connected to a your favourite microcontroller
2c. A dedicated VOIP convertor device

3. Digitise the audio
3a. The audio will need to be in a suitable format such as RTP used by
VOIP systems, audio compression/decompression is not trivial, neither is
the RTP protocol, but there are libraries to help

4. Transmit audio and control data
4a. Zigbee and bluetooth are too short range
4b. unlicensed radio bands need more specialist transceivers and tend to
also be fairly limited range indoors
4c. wifi at least is ubiquitous and roaming is easy

5. mobile handset
4a. build more or less a mirror of the base station end, ugly
4b. use a smart phone or tablet, pretty but more coding





From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov  5 10:05:43 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:05:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
In-Reply-To: <1415134770.6394.19.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <A38EAC09-4500-4DB3-81CF-5E8112F0F11F@techhub.com>
	<CAPqi54AX=rd=vFD4b1=8LSTMRMiMaNYKfOMUrns=JLDkmKW0hA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3CB4FAAE-7F3D-46D6-8766-ACFC3034EF3E@harwood-leon.com>
	<54590F20.3020206@aurinia.co.uk>
	<20141104174641.35cd8c83@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
	<C946394B-0BDB-4B79-9FA1-95B044E167C8@harwood-leon.com>
	<1415134770.6394.19.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NsA+k44tNq_gQA61YZWaH7JAPf=T1-Dh1wkOfg-CXcpw@mail.gmail.com>

the existing buzzer system is very clever. There is a buzzer on the outside
gate, and a second buzzer on the inside door.

The victim pushes the button for the floor he wants, and the handset that
is picked up will then know which door release to activate.... the handset
has to be put down to accept the call from the next buzzer at the next
portal.

The audio is fairly crucial as people could be pushing the wrong button for
the wrong floor... and as there are thousands of people passing that green
gate every day, you don't want to buzz anybody through.

The important thing in what I have to say is the putting the device back
'on hook' is very important, and if not done properly, it will impede on
the passage of the victim through the portals and onto into the inner
sanctum.

A VERY easy way over the problem would be a big amplified loudspeaker
attached to the handset, so when the device is brought off-hook, everybody
in the tech hub could hear whoever is announcing himself... so as Justin
suggests, some predefined messages could actually work really well here.

Devices goes 'off-hook' - pre defined message 'who's there please' -
loudpeaker is activated - and the voice booms across the room deafening
everybody in the room and disturbs anybody who was trying to concentrate on
their work... I'm beginning to prefer the RTP streaming audio server
solution... trouble with that is opening a client to monitor the stream can
take some time to establish the connection.

Aren't there existing modules to link these door release systems into
existing telephone exchange systems?

Looking at the specs of these Door systems, most of them have a POTS
interface built in allowing a DECT phone or similar to be used

On 4 November 2014 20:59, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 18:49 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:
> > What about http://proto-pic.co.uk/categories/wireless/xbee.html
> >
> >
> > mentioned here:
>
> XBee sell two main kinds of module afaics
>
> ZigBee 10-100m low power modules.
> WiFi modules.
>
> neither help with the audio capture/playback part, which that article
> seems to skip over the detail of, they just talk about saving power by
> shutting down the wireless data when theres no audio to send
>
> List of problems with possible answers
>
> 1. sense buzzer/call, activate door release
> 1a. easy, any I/O capable board will do; Arduino, RPi, Spark.io, etc
>
> 2. capture audio, and play audio to the wired connection
> 2a. an RPi with a USB sound card type device
> 2b. A2D and D2A convertors connected to a your favourite microcontroller
> 2c. A dedicated VOIP convertor device
>
> 3. Digitise the audio
> 3a. The audio will need to be in a suitable format such as RTP used by
> VOIP systems, audio compression/decompression is not trivial, neither is
> the RTP protocol, but there are libraries to help
>
> 4. Transmit audio and control data
> 4a. Zigbee and bluetooth are too short range
> 4b. unlicensed radio bands need more specialist transceivers and tend to
> also be fairly limited range indoors
> 4c. wifi at least is ubiquitous and roaming is easy
>
> 5. mobile handset
> 4a. build more or less a mirror of the base station end, ugly
> 4b. use a smart phone or tablet, pretty but more coding
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov  5 10:07:39 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:07:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Glad the space has the mini mill
In-Reply-To: <54592537.435ec20a.6dd8.ffffa501@mx.google.com>
References: <54592537.435ec20a.6dd8.ffffa501@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7O1n+v7=-styW-8-YMztP=kz4Z3pq0H3Ri4U1TDcLzSvw@mail.gmail.com>

sorry to hear that! Good luck fixing it

On 4 November 2014 19:13, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Went down to the workshop just now to grab some resistors and my bench
> where the mini mill used to live is totally flooded.  Looks like I will be
> patching a roof tomorrow night ?
>
> Luckily only minimal damage to a few boxes of passives and some wire that
> I left on the bench.
>
> If you work in a shed or workshop and haven't been down for a few days, I
> would suggest that you go and take a look make sure that everything is okay
> with this bad weather we have been having.  If the mill was still sitting
> there it would have been wrecked - well the control box and pc at any rate.
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 10:27:57 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:27:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS581CCCCD444A7C8C2C894FC6870@phx.gbl>

Paxton do door entry systems that are cross compatible with a large number of existing devices, some of their hardware will also work work with a number of Voip devises, even smartphone apps.

When I did a installation training course on Paxton they said a smartphone with a Voip app will also run over 3G allowing someone who is not on site to buzz people it.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:05/11/2014  10:06  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Buzzer/Access Project </div><div>
</div>
the existing buzzer system is very clever. There is a buzzer on the outside
gate, and a second buzzer on the inside door.

The victim pushes the button for the floor he wants, and the handset that
is picked up will then know which door release to activate.... the handset
has to be put down to accept the call from the next buzzer at the next
portal.

The audio is fairly crucial as people could be pushing the wrong button for
the wrong floor... and as there are thousands of people passing that green
gate every day, you don't want to buzz anybody through.

The important thing in what I have to say is the putting the device back
'on hook' is very important, and if not done properly, it will impede on
the passage of the victim through the portals and onto into the inner
sanctum.

A VERY easy way over the problem would be a big amplified loudspeaker
attached to the handset, so when the device is brought off-hook, everybody
in the tech hub could hear whoever is announcing himself... so as Justin
suggests, some predefined messages could actually work really well here.

Devices goes 'off-hook' - pre defined message 'who's there please' -
loudpeaker is activated - and the voice booms across the room deafening
everybody in the room and disturbs anybody who was trying to concentrate on
their work... I'm beginning to prefer the RTP streaming audio server
solution... trouble with that is opening a client to monitor the stream can
take some time to establish the connection.

Aren't there existing modules to link these door release systems into
existing telephone exchange systems?

Looking at the specs of these Door systems, most of them have a POTS
interface built in allowing a DECT phone or similar to be used

On 4 November 2014 20:59, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 18:49 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:
> > What about http://proto-pic.co.uk/categories/wireless/xbee.html
> >
> >
> > mentioned here:
>
> XBee sell two main kinds of module afaics
>
> ZigBee 10-100m low power modules.
> WiFi modules.
>
> neither help with the audio capture/playback part, which that article
> seems to skip over the detail of, they just talk about saving power by
> shutting down the wireless data when theres no audio to send
>
> List of problems with possible answers
>
> 1. sense buzzer/call, activate door release
> 1a. easy, any I/O capable board will do; Arduino, RPi, Spark.io, etc
>
> 2. capture audio, and play audio to the wired connection
> 2a. an RPi with a USB sound card type device
> 2b. A2D and D2A convertors connected to a your favourite microcontroller
> 2c. A dedicated VOIP convertor device
>
> 3. Digitise the audio
> 3a. The audio will need to be in a suitable format such as RTP used by
> VOIP systems, audio compression/decompression is not trivial, neither is
> the RTP protocol, but there are libraries to help
>
> 4. Transmit audio and control data
> 4a. Zigbee and bluetooth are too short range
> 4b. unlicensed radio bands need more specialist transceivers and tend to
> also be fairly limited range indoors
> 4c. wifi at least is ubiquitous and roaming is easy
>
> 5. mobile handset
> 4a. build more or less a mirror of the base station end, ugly
> 4b. use a smart phone or tablet, pretty but more coding
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 15:20:28 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:20:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Starting work for Trojan
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS3569256BA047619A06CE13AC6870@phx.gbl>

I think I remember someone, possibly Jason, ?who worked there.

Any tips for working there.


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From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov  5 16:04:22 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:04:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>

All, as a follow up to my previous plea, I thought I would share my interim
solution.

The paid-for version of TextWrangler which I am sure you are familiar with,
BB Edit.

rather apt as the main website I use it for is called BB List
www.bblist.co.uk :-)

I'm still using the trial version but I can see me paying for it soon as it
does most of the things I want it to. It doesn't highlight matching words
when I select them, but it does at least underline them - the underline
isn't easy to see so I need to delve into the settings to see if it can be
customised at all.

There is a short cut to get a selected word into the find dialogue - right
click to get the context menu and then select 'Use Selection For Find' -
Again, I need to see if I can configure a short cut to streamline this.

I don't know my way round customising yet to see if any of these things are
possible, if they are the system will rock.

The last thing I want to do is to be forced back to using Microsoft Windows!

Thanks for the suggestions and comments!

Em
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov  5 16:57:43 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:57:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7M8ORMBLA-mtcodYxrV0uaU7Rrrabac5tHvp2LAjQ6Esg@mail.gmail.com>

should have mentioned that Sublime Text is also very good.

http://www.sublimetext.com/

I'm trying out V2 - but V3 is in Beta

I could end up using Sublime Text rather than BB Edit

On 5 November 2014 16:04, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> All, as a follow up to my previous plea, I thought I would share my
> interim solution.
>
> The paid-for version of TextWrangler which I am sure you are familiar
> with, BB Edit.
>
> rather apt as the main website I use it for is called BB List
> www.bblist.co.uk :-)
>
> I'm still using the trial version but I can see me paying for it soon as
> it does most of the things I want it to. It doesn't highlight matching
> words when I select them, but it does at least underline them - the
> underline isn't easy to see so I need to delve into the settings to see if
> it can be customised at all.
>
> There is a short cut to get a selected word into the find dialogue - right
> click to get the context menu and then select 'Use Selection For Find' -
> Again, I need to see if I can configure a short cut to streamline this.
>
> I don't know my way round customising yet to see if any of these things
> are possible, if they are the system will rock.
>
> The last thing I want to do is to be forced back to using Microsoft
> Windows!
>
> Thanks for the suggestions and comments!
>
> Em
>



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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 17:22:28 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Starting work for Trojan
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS3569256BA047619A06CE13AC6870@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS3569256BA047619A06CE13AC6870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn--WOz-UyAhJxq3AJPiEOK2QjWbLk_yWSv-LAe4LS-9HQ@mail.gmail.com>

I used to 1000's years ago! !!
Running SMT Production line for pace satellite decoders.
Amongst other things.

Ceri
 On 5 Nov 2014 15:19, "djdavies83" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think I remember someone, possibly Jason,  who worked there.
>
> Any tips for working there.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 18:16:36 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:16:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Starting work for Trojan
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS523FEE7657BEF92BC378CFC6870@phx.gbl>

It looks like I'll be on through-hole soldering,  randomly I'll soldering PCBs destined for my current day job.

Apart from the obvious of being on time etc anything to avoid doing?


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:05/11/2014  17:22  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Hackers <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Starting work for Trojan </div><div>
</div>
I used to 1000's years ago! !!
Running SMT Production line for pace satellite decoders.
Amongst other things.

Ceri
 On 5 Nov 2014 15:19, "djdavies83" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think I remember someone, possibly Jason,  who worked there.
>
> Any tips for working there.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 20:54:17 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:54:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7M8ORMBLA-mtcodYxrV0uaU7Rrrabac5tHvp2LAjQ6Esg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <545A8E79.9050903@gmail.com>

yeah, let me know how it goes Emyr and if you find any good BBedit 
tutorials or handy sites, let me know.
Ive just become a bit of a sublime Whore now, but use BB all the time, 
but, oddly enough just for keeping my essential files together for quick 
viewing. logins etc. real overkill, textwrangler alone would have sufficed.

in other news.

IVe FINALLY got around to starting some programming! woo hoo.
Python.

using Programming the Raspberry Pi , getting started with Python
by Simon Monk (thank you Ponty Library)

http://www.monkmakes.com/?page_id=63#comment-969132

its actually not a bad book! some bits of it ...go a little awry in the 
explanations, but
theres a lot of little bits of enough interesting stuff at a not bad 
rate of delivery to get you trying just about anything!
starts simple, explains hello world etc, how to install and set it up, 
hardware, serial ports, gui programming, python syntax , how to create 
classes and modules of your own etc etc at an interesting mix of levels.

and Ive just written my first program to.... read... and write, between 
My newly aquired Raspberry pi running Raspbian and my Hackspace Arduino!
woo hoo!!!

lots of tinkering, like about 3 days after several more of basic python 
learning. Ive done little else. this pi is strangely addictive to play 
with. no fear factor of trashing the OS cos.   ... you just pull the 
SDcard out and reflash it.
haaa!

I also learnt about the diff between Python 2 and 3. nadda nadda!
something to do with string types and bytes... if anyone else tryies 
this, then they will find the Serial port program in the book doesnt 
work. nuts.
however after much googling, I got it figured.

to do with passing 'str' values along the serial to the Arduino...er, 
you have to use the

ser.write (bytes(somevalue, encoding ='ascii'))

format instead of the much simpler

ser.write('somevalue')  version

if someone could explain, nicely, what the difference between python 
vers 2 and 3 is with regard these types, and what the differece really 
is , in whats getting passed with the two lines to get the same nice 
simple *flashing LED * on the arduino, Id love to know.

also, I can run the program in IDLE3, on the pi, no probs (yay, success) 
in its Python Shell, and can run the program via f5 in the open file, 
text editor, but

If I run the same program via the terminal on the piI get an error along 
the line of

File *<String>*, line 1 in <module>
NameError: name 'o' is not defined.

o is the charecter I entered into the program and the idle shell, with 
success in order to open the serial port to my arduino from the Pi.

when I enter the same charecter in the program running in the shell I 
get that above error.

also,

if I ssh into the pi via the network and try to run the same prorgram via

pi at raspberrypi~ python pi-py.py

then it seems to fire up with other errors ...and looks like it returns 
the IDLE, python shell display, ie,

 >>> is visible, it doesnt just *run* my python file, play nice and open 
my serial port to my arduino and flash my pretty lights.

so a few things there.

if im doing something daft in order to remotely run my python program 
via ssh, can you tell me that too?
ok cheers

bye







From paul at harwood-leon.com  Wed Nov  5 21:07:51 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 21:07:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <167A5631-830D-4807-846D-AB6C7B64648B@harwood-leon.com>

in vim this is 

/searchphrase 
/ + [enter] 

vim is such a good editor, I have tried the rest (sublime/atom/textwrangler...) and always come back to vim.

http://amix.dk/vim/vimrc.html is also very, very useful for reference and as a start of personalisation via .vimrc.

And then there's always http://vimawesome.com/

-- Paul

On 5 Nov 2014, at 16:04, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> There is a short cut to get a selected word into the find dialogue - right click to get the context menu and then select 'Use Selection For Find' - Again, I need to see if I can configure a short cut to streamline this.

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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 21:25:42 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:25:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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mmm which version of BBedit do you have Emyr?
Ive 10.5.7 , and was just checking out the latest version 11. the 'show 
differences between files' looks shiny!

but i cant run that version as im still on mac os x 10.6.8.
I really should put a bit more effort into that text editor aswell as 
sublime.

thanks for the heads up.

and...ive Vim on here . started to do that too Paul H.
it took me ....a....good.....while....... to set up the local 
environment for it and colour themes, fonts, etc.
so much so that I needed a rest after it!

SHould probably get back into that one too :) ... especially as I guess 
there is a Rasp Pi version and... im starting to ..really like that 
cheeky little chap on my table! :)


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 21:36:38 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:36:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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oooh! on the bright side, there is a 10.5.13 update that I completely 
missed!

so from 10.5.7 to that for me :)
cheers for reminding me :)

Ill get that tomorrow at my mates house as its 13Mb.
oooh more goodies! :)



From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Nov  5 22:34:46 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:34:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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> > On 5 Nov 2014, at 16:04, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > There is a short cut to get a selected word into the find dialogue
> > > - right click to get the context menu and then select 'Use
> > > Selection For Find' - Again, I need to see if I can configure a
> > > short cut to streamline this. 
> > > 

Glad someone else chipped in with vim, i was holding back for fear of
being too nerdy and old school :)

On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 21:07 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:
> in vim this is

> /searchphrase 

if you have :set hlsearch
then it will highlight every occurance of the last search string, but i
turn it off by default as i find it annoying

> / + [enter] 
not sure what this was intended to be


as for "get selected word into the search box" thats simply move the
cursor to a word and hit the '*' key to immediately jump to the next
occurrence of it.  

or if you have run ctags in your source tree then ctrl-] will jump you
to where that var/function is defined. (ctrl-t jumps you back)

> vim is such a good editor, I have tried the rest
> (sublime/atom/textwrangler...) and always come back to vim.
apart from a brief dalliance with micro-emacs in the early 90s all i
have ever used is vi and derivatives.  nothing else quite matches up for
speed and ease of use down an overloaded 64k leased line with
multi-second round trip times :)

these days i favour gvim and also use a bunch of plugins:
airline, syntastic, tagbar, signify and autocomplpop


> And then there's always http://vimawesome.com/
hadnt seen this site before, maybe i will discover some more neat
plugins :)






From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov  5 23:09:20 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 23:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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Vim is shell?

I do very little in shell as I can have forty plus scripts open at once in
tabs.

For the little text editing I do on my Pi (over SSH) I tend to use nano, it
is simple and that is all that matters. For live website I prefer to work
local, check my files then FTF them to the server, always felt safer doing
it the slow way

BB Edit is customisable, got the shortcut I needed working, and there is
another key combination. To do what I wanted to do all along. Notepad++ on
Windows was so much simpler, highlight a word and hit CTRL+F, as simple as
that, why is it that people have to over-complicate things?! I was taught
by my guru that computers are here to make life simpler, and good coding
should accomplish that, and not make everyday tasks overly complicated

On Wednesday, 5 November 2014, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

>
> > > On 5 Nov 2014, at 16:04, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is a short cut to get a selected word into the find dialogue
> > > > - right click to get the context menu and then select 'Use
> > > > Selection For Find' - Again, I need to see if I can configure a
> > > > short cut to streamline this.
> > > >
>
> Glad someone else chipped in with vim, i was holding back for fear of
> being too nerdy and old school :)
>
> On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 21:07 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:
> > in vim this is
>
> > /searchphrase
>
> if you have :set hlsearch
> then it will highlight every occurance of the last search string, but i
> turn it off by default as i find it annoying
>
> > / + [enter]
> not sure what this was intended to be
>
>
> as for "get selected word into the search box" thats simply move the
> cursor to a word and hit the '*' key to immediately jump to the next
> occurrence of it.
>
> or if you have run ctags in your source tree then ctrl-] will jump you
> to where that var/function is defined. (ctrl-t jumps you back)
>
> > vim is such a good editor, I have tried the rest
> > (sublime/atom/textwrangler...) and always come back to vim.
> apart from a brief dalliance with micro-emacs in the early 90s all i
> have ever used is vi and derivatives.  nothing else quite matches up for
> speed and ease of use down an overloaded 64k leased line with
> multi-second round trip times :)
>
> these days i favour gvim and also use a bunch of plugins:
> airline, syntastic, tagbar, signify and autocomplpop
>
>
> > And then there's always http://vimawesome.com/
> hadnt seen this site before, maybe i will discover some more neat
> plugins :)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 09:30:08 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:30:08 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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here here Emyr!
" why is it that people have to over-complicate things?! I was taught by 
my guru that computers are here to make life simpler, and good coding 
should accomplish that, and not make everyday tasks overly complicated"

yep, what was it?

"Computers will free up liesure time and increase productivity".... oh 
yes....yes...reallY?

every day Im stuck at a screen figuring out why I dont know things, why 
everything has moved on so much and why everything I know is out of date 
and have to spend an age learnign something new before I can achieve the 
simple thing I wanted to achi...oops.... there goes another day!
curses!

:)
and no Vim isnt just shell programming.
ive got the app installed here locally on my machine. well, a derivative 
. MacVim

www.macupdate.com/app/mac/25988/macvim

that is the url but also check out
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21012203/gvim-or-macvim-in-mac-os-x
about installing it via brew etc.

I now have both brew and macports installed.
I hear this isnt a good thing on a mac but
to be honest I wasnt really sure at the time, and now I just live with 
it and....try not to touch either anymore
after getting some conflict stuff between versions of something I can no 
longer remember.

mmmmm mabye I should bother to check out Vim for Macs a bit more.
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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Thu Nov  6 09:37:27 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:37:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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That is absolutely fine for one person one machine. Once you get to many people, many machines, thats where vim comes into it?s own.

My usual setup is:

- create local VM (usually pre rolled ubuntu image with LEMP)
- git init/push a development repo from the VM to my local machine git server
- shell/vi into VM 
- code some stuff
- test some stuff
- deploy via git pull from my local machine on to the live server (stops silly push mistakes breaking stuff)

The beauty of this is that it keeps everything local until it?s time to deploy, server config and all. I hate spending money on development server cycles when my local machine is usually faster spec. The only hassle is keeping versions of software consistent.

When you have had the pain of overwriting crucial files on upload, that?s when edit in place feature of VIM becomes very sane.

? Paul




> On 5 Nov 2014, at 23:09, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Nov  6 10:28:46 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:28:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 23:09 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> Vim is shell?

vim opens in the current terminal,  gvim opens its own window

When editing a local file i use gvim as you get better choices for
syntax highlighting colour schemes.

> I do very little in shell as I can have forty plus scripts open at
> once in tabs.
I find lots of files open to be counter-productive, when working on a
large project i will only have 3 or 4 open at a time, the one i'm
working on, one that called it, a header file or two.

having lots of files open gets in the way when you use the ctags
support, as it tries to take your current window to the right line and
file only to find that file is already open in another window and it has
to warn you.





From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov  6 11:16:54 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:16:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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you should try notepad++

never had a problem, the tabs stack nicely, I can access all the scripts I
need to quickly, and granted I probably have more open than I need... but
it has never been a problem. Every few months or possibly once a year I
will go round closing a few I have not worked on for a while ;-) - am I
kidding? You will never know!

And the global find is a breeze

On 6 November 2014 10:28, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 23:09 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > Vim is shell?
>
> vim opens in the current terminal,  gvim opens its own window
>
> When editing a local file i use gvim as you get better choices for
> syntax highlighting colour schemes.
>
> > I do very little in shell as I can have forty plus scripts open at
> > once in tabs.
> I find lots of files open to be counter-productive, when working on a
> large project i will only have 3 or 4 open at a time, the one i'm
> working on, one that called it, a header file or two.
>
> having lots of files open gets in the way when you use the ctags
> support, as it tries to take your current window to the right line and
> file only to find that file is already open in another window and it has
> to warn you.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov  6 11:23:06 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:23:06 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
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All

thanks, lots of food for thought.

I'm in the horrible position of never having any formal education in
programming - there are times I wish I had made it to uni, but a job landed
at my feet when I was 18 and I grasped it... the lure of making money
straight away.

I'm totally self taught, and am probably doing it all wrong. And there is
so much I have never learnt because I didn't know about it or was never
shown/taught it. I've only learnt the stuff I have had to when I have
needed to.

Version Control / Git - I have glimpsed at Git and thought, yeh that sounds
cool... I keep time machine backups and I keep daily backups of my work, so
I have never kept any other formal type of version control repositories -
and there you all go screaming and kicking arms waving... :-(

I'm becoming more like you Ian every day! I've still got a lot of work to
do on my beard though! ;-) :-) :-)

Maybe I should sign up on an university course and get things back on track
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov  6 11:51:30 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:51:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] HAM Radio - Foundation Licence course Carmarthen
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OQnmeWHs=Hu_Xx_wgJ5KsEq_dGb1uNHBwPU2KcD5khBQ@mail.gmail.com>

hello there

I know Tim said to me a while ago he was interested in becoming a Ham, so
this is just a heads up in case anybody else is interested in doing the
Foundation Licence.

Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society are taking a XYL through her foundation at
the moment and will probably do the one day course and exam soon. There are
a couple of practical things to do, appreciation of morse etc hence why
there is a need for a very short course.

If anybody is interested in tagging on, all they ask is you at least join
the club - there is no other fee to pay, and the membership is just ?10 for
a year. (if you attend a meeting they expect you to throw a quid in for a
cup of tea and a biscuit)

Let me know if you are interested and I can pass on the details of Trevor
and Allan who are running the course.

All the best

Emyr
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 11:55:57 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:55:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] HAM Radio - Foundation Licence course
	Carmarthen
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If its any help to anyone I am an active user of my license GW1JOV

:  )))

Tim_1

On 6 November 2014 11:51, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> hello there
>
> I know Tim said to me a while ago he was interested in becoming a Ham, so
> this is just a heads up in case anybody else is interested in doing the
> Foundation Licence.
>
> Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society are taking a XYL through her foundation
> at the moment and will probably do the one day course and exam soon. There
> are a couple of practical things to do, appreciation of morse etc hence why
> there is a need for a very short course.
>
> If anybody is interested in tagging on, all they ask is you at least join
> the club - there is no other fee to pay, and the membership is just ?10 for
> a year. (if you attend a meeting they expect you to throw a quid in for a
> cup of tea and a biscuit)
>
> Let me know if you are interested and I can pass on the details of Trevor
> and Allan who are running the course.
>
> All the best
>
> Emyr
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov  6 11:57:26 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] HAM Radio - Foundation Licence course
	Carmarthen
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was hoping to attend / join the Swansea club tonight but I have a
Pontardawe Film Club selection meeting. RATS!

On 6 November 2014 11:55, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If its any help to anyone I am an active user of my license GW1JOV
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 6 November 2014 11:51, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> hello there
>>
>> I know Tim said to me a while ago he was interested in becoming a Ham, so
>> this is just a heads up in case anybody else is interested in doing the
>> Foundation Licence.
>>
>> Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society are taking a XYL through her foundation
>> at the moment and will probably do the one day course and exam soon. There
>> are a couple of practical things to do, appreciation of morse etc hence why
>> there is a need for a very short course.
>>
>> If anybody is interested in tagging on, all they ask is you at least join
>> the club - there is no other fee to pay, and the membership is just ?10 for
>> a year. (if you attend a meeting they expect you to throw a quid in for a
>> cup of tea and a biscuit)
>>
>> Let me know if you are interested and I can pass on the details of Trevor
>> and Allan who are running the course.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Thu Nov  6 13:31:27 2014
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (Tom Lake)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:31:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <545B782F.3020604@sucs.org>

Afternoon all,

On 30/10/2014 21:11, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> Next scheduled workshop is Sat 15th Nov, Analogue Electronics with
> Tom Lake

Unfortunately I'm now going to have to cancel this workshop.
The course I was supposed to be attending this weekend has been pushed
back a week and I don't seem to have another spare weekend until after
Christmas.

I'll probably be in the space this weekend (8th), but won't be running a
workshop.

Copying from Justin's previous email:
> If anyone else has the time and wants to fill one of the empty
> timeslots with any kind of workshop please come forward.

- Tom


From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Thu Nov  6 22:03:30 2014
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:03:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] HAM Radio - Foundation Licence
	course	Carmarthen
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NV+HyxF4qX+GO5u=X2+94FK9iqCzn-ZKj_yWHxkeUkHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OQnmeWHs=Hu_Xx_wgJ5KsEq_dGb1uNHBwPU2KcD5khBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oOdt5G9f6XzhXX96y8dtpBOm2Vgy4FfDSP6=bFkYWxX3g@mail.gmail.com>,
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Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6342E82B8@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Emyr, Tim et al,

OK about missing our radio soc meeting, not many present.

We used to run a Foundation Licence course in Swansea,
but we don't have enough people to do that any more.

Time was there would always be radio hams in the class,
not any more they must all be playing with computers instead!

regards

Timothy Davies GW4ADL and GW3UWS

________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Emyr Morris [em at preseli.com]
Sent: 06 November 2014 11:57
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] HAM Radio - Foundation Licence course Carmarthen

was hoping to attend / join the Swansea club tonight but I have a Pontardawe Film Club selection meeting. RATS!

On 6 November 2014 11:55, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com<mailto:timmoore47 at gmail.com>> wrote:
If its any help to anyone I am an active user of my license GW1JOV

:  )))

Tim_1

On 6 November 2014 11:51, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com<mailto:em at preseli.com>> wrote:
hello there

I know Tim said to me a while ago he was interested in becoming a Ham, so this is just a heads up in case anybody else is interested in doing the Foundation Licence.

Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society are taking a XYL through her foundation at the moment and will probably do the one day course and exam soon. There are a couple of practical things to do, appreciation of morse etc hence why there is a need for a very short course.

If anybody is interested in tagging on, all they ask is you at least join the club - there is no other fee to pay, and the membership is just ?10 for a year. (if you attend a meeting they expect you to throw a quid in for a cup of tea and a biscuit)

Let me know if you are interested and I can pass on the details of Trevor and Allan who are running the course.

All the best

Emyr

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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Thu Nov  6 23:43:26 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 23:43:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] What type of pleat?
Message-ID: <69A7D1E1-0066-42D3-A9B9-869FA619583B@googlemail.com>

Hi all 

This was a question i was going to ask Sharon on saturday at the fabric workshop, so i will try on here.  If Sharon, or Anyone else can help id appreciate it.

Does anyone know what the red 'pleats' are called in these photos on ezio's shoulder.  I was thinking they were called box pleats or similar, but when i search for that im not seeing anything similar.

I want to be able to do this so im looking for a tutorial, or someone to show me, as well as how to get the pleats to be a different colour from the base.  In this case, how to get the red folded in but still looking neat.

Thanks all

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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov  7 10:03:21 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:03:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] What type of pleat?
In-Reply-To: <69A7D1E1-0066-42D3-A9B9-869FA619583B@googlemail.com>
References: <69A7D1E1-0066-42D3-A9B9-869FA619583B@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <20141107100321.72b1f7f6@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

That does indeed look like a box pleat.
You can achieve a contrast fabric 'within' the box by sewing in a strip
where you want the pleat before you sew it up - if that makes sense.?

You may also - depending on what fabric you're using - want to use some
interfacing to give some structure and stability to the
garment/shoulder.

You'll then need to find the centre-point of the short-end of this
inserted strip and fold the seam edges into this point and secure, both
ends will give that 'slit' look, whereas most box pleats are
'one-ended' and give that triangle look. (e.g hems on skirts)

I've got some notes here that I'll get to the 'Space for Saturday - the
instructions are for a bag - but just focus on the pleat construction
bit - should be what you need.

N.B: a hot iron (if fabric permits) is your friend when working with
pleats ;)

HTH
Sharon



From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Nov  7 13:09:50 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:09:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] What type of pleat?
In-Reply-To: <20141107100321.72b1f7f6@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <69A7D1E1-0066-42D3-A9B9-869FA619583B@googlemail.com>
	<20141107100321.72b1f7f6@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <545cc47c.e753c20a.103d.5cc6@mx.google.com>

Excellent information, thanks Sharon

I will be in Saturday so will get the information off you then.  If you have 5 mins, I would appreciate a quick chat about the type of materials to use.  I want to make a replica costume of the picture attached as it will allow me to learn and play with many different materials including, fabrics, leathers and metals,and probably some plastic too (made to look like metal).

Thanks

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: "Sharon Mitchell" <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Sent: ?07/?11/?2014 10:03
To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] What type of pleat?

That does indeed look like a box pleat.
You can achieve a contrast fabric 'within' the box by sewing in a strip
where you want the pleat before you sew it up - if that makes sense.?

You may also - depending on what fabric you're using - want to use some
interfacing to give some structure and stability to the
garment/shoulder.

You'll then need to find the centre-point of the short-end of this
inserted strip and fold the seam edges into this point and secure, both
ends will give that 'slit' look, whereas most box pleats are
'one-ended' and give that triangle look. (e.g hems on skirts)

I've got some notes here that I'll get to the 'Space for Saturday - the
instructions are for a bag - but just focus on the pleat construction
bit - should be what you need.

N.B: a hot iron (if fabric permits) is your friend when working with
pleats ;)

HTH
Sharon

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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov  7 14:08:35 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:08:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IP Networking query
Message-ID: <20141107140835.7d556cd2@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

Hi All,

Could somebody ELI5 the following:

I have a Google Play Music sub, one of the features is 'Radio' where
you seed it a track and it streams similar genre.

In the settings I have told it to Stream and D/Load over wifi only - to
stop it gobbling All The Data.

However, when I walk to Uplands from Brynmill (so way out of range of
home wifi) I get an uninterrupted stream of radio (i.e. tracks that are
not local to my device).

Checking my device shows wifi connected not Data Plan.

How does this work.?
Is there some kind of 'back channel' talk going on between device and
somebody else's wifi.?

As an aside, it gives me confidence in my Spark.io project which relies
heavily on Cloud connection but cannot navigate captive portals, or as
some coffee-shop folk call them, 'Free Wifi'.

Sharon


From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov  7 14:13:36 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:13:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] What type of pleat?
In-Reply-To: <545cc47c.e753c20a.103d.5cc6@mx.google.com>
References: <69A7D1E1-0066-42D3-A9B9-869FA619583B@googlemail.com>
	<20141107100321.72b1f7f6@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<545cc47c.e753c20a.103d.5cc6@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20141107141336.4b145e23@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

Graham,

I'll send the info down with Justin he'll be getting there way before
me, that way you won't have to wait around.

Your costume idea sounds awesomely ambitious!
Happy to help :)

Sharon



From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 16:11:04 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:11:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <545B782F.3020604@sucs.org>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<545B782F.3020604@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <545CEF18.4060304@gmail.com>

ah , pity.

mmm just mentioning, Im down a friends who also went to hackspace, 
neither of us get emails telling us of UPCOMING events, only of 
cancelled ones. wierd.

ok bye


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 16:17:55 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:17:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Text Editor for code...
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7N-5oZhJSwKWvYcun9dboGQUWS8G710LpXd8t35n2Bc2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OjyA6QOXyOH47Mn6a4maTjvsJuHf5atDCg3SBNFMPnRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<167A5631-830D-4807-846D-AB6C7B64648B@harwood-leon.com>
	<1415226886.8634.9.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7PLFr=wRHjH72GdHrNsixZLzvhzZXRTbXJkyvdLHKOhTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1415269726.3760.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NN6=1Mm5CLRdCR-k+86KFppuzzCjb-vquMWuhctXnS+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7N-5oZhJSwKWvYcun9dboGQUWS8G710LpXd8t35n2Bc2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <545CF0B3.2020303@gmail.com>

Ha!
I did the uni thing Emyr...dont bother :P its good but.....
oh and..im afraid the beard has.... GONE!!!
so
Im now in disguise!

Uni, after having a life is.... mentally challenging, socially 
frustrating, and doesnt set you up for employment in industry.
but
damn! you will understand everything *nearly* they tell you very well!

ok till laterz!
me
:)

ps, I worked all the python stuff out myself.
thanks for the feedback all.
oh , yeah, I didnt get any :)
ok cheerio



From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Nov  7 16:25:36 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:25:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <545CEF18.4060304@gmail.com>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<545B782F.3020604@sucs.org> <545CEF18.4060304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1415377536.25280.13.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 16:11 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> ah , pity.
> 
> mmm just mentioning, Im down a friends who also went to hackspace, 
> neither of us get emails telling us of UPCOMING events, only of 
> cancelled ones. wierd.

Login to the mailman interface for your email address,
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
its the unhelpfully labeled 'Unsubscribe or Edit Options' button

look at the section 'Which topic categories would you like to subscribe
to?'

If you have any of those ticked then you will ONLY get emails labelled
with those categories (event announces all get tagged [Announce] )

if you have none ticked then you will get ALL emails.

thats the only filtering on the mailing list, any further filtering
would have to be done by your email client/provider.




From dick at acm.org  Fri Nov  7 20:06:15 2014
From: dick at acm.org (Dick Porter)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:06:15 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IP Networking query
In-Reply-To: <20141107140835.7d556cd2@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	(sfid-20141107_140928_250494_721F7A2D)
References: <20141107140835.7d556cd2@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	(sfid-20141107_140928_250494_721F7A2D)
Message-ID: <25FCB9EC-7E36-4E4A-8129-FA586F72F678@acm.org>


On 7 Nov 2014, at 02:08 pm, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> However, when I walk to Uplands from Brynmill (so way out of range of
> home wifi) I get an uninterrupted stream of radio (i.e. tracks that are
> not local to my device).

Has it cached a load of music?  Does it eventually stop (or start repeating itself) if you're away for a while?

- Dick




From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Nov  7 22:14:29 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:14:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IP Networking query
In-Reply-To: <25FCB9EC-7E36-4E4A-8129-FA586F72F678@acm.org>
References: <20141107140835.7d556cd2@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	(sfid-20141107_140928_250494_721F7A2D)
	<25FCB9EC-7E36-4E4A-8129-FA586F72F678@acm.org>
Message-ID: <545d4427.e94bc20a.326b.fffffd0b@mx.google.com>

What phone do you have?

Do you have the sky/bt/virgin/etc app installed, as when I had my iphone, if I wax near any bt router (including peoples home routers) it automatically connected and used their WiFi. Cant remember the name if the service, but it was a case of I could connect to other peoples WiFi in exchange they were able to connect to mine.  Perhaps someone with a bt router can confirm, it shows up as a separate access point.

That's the only way I can think if that you could maintain WiFi over that distance.  When you install the app on an iphone it installs some certificate script thing, I assume android is similar?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dick Porter" <dick at acm.org>
Sent: ?07/?11/?2014 20:08
To: "Swansea Hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] IP Networking query


On 7 Nov 2014, at 02:08 pm, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> However, when I walk to Uplands from Brynmill (so way out of range of
> home wifi) I get an uninterrupted stream of radio (i.e. tracks that are
> not local to my device).

Has it cached a load of music?  Does it eventually stop (or start repeating itself) if you're away for a while?

- Dick


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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov  7 23:13:02 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:13:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IP Networking query - [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <25FCB9EC-7E36-4E4A-8129-FA586F72F678@acm.org>
References: <20141107140835.7d556cd2@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<25FCB9EC-7E36-4E4A-8129-FA586F72F678@acm.org>
Message-ID: <20141107231302.54a62c3f@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

OK, I think I know what's afoot here, and yes, Graham it's to do with
BT you're right.

I was essentially leeching my Y from BT customers, en route,
seamlessly :/


 


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 00:30:28 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 00:30:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi :)
Message-ID: <545D6424.60301@gmail.com>

http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS05/

thats it


From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sat Nov  8 02:11:45 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 02:11:45 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Key fob suggestion/idea
Message-ID: <3C721585-C071-4D3A-AB71-5B1D3DE56CD5@googlemail.com>

If we can organise it, would anyone be averse to having a second fob issued to each member of the space, one that we can use internally and have full control over to preparing us for future projects.

Examples would be, when people enter or leave the space, so that it is logged, but also so we can start doing some live stats on the website, such as 'there are currently "6" people in the hackspace'

A basis for a cashless vending machine for things like arduinos, or snacks.

Controls for the machine tools/3d printers etc.  once people are trained on a machine it is added to their profile and allows the machine to be used.

Project box packing robot, a robot that retrieves your project box when presented with your fob.

These are obviously just suggestions, and are more for the long term.  I would say use the existing fobs, but if we need to move to larger space in the future then our existing fobs would have to be returned and would be an administration nightmare.

In a nutshell, im proposing that we start building a framework that can grow with us.

Any comments or suggestions appreciated

As many of you know, im all about the graphing of data and would love to see more stats on the website like visits per day, visits by hour, maximum at one time etc

From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 12:26:06 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:26:06 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Key fob suggestion/idea
In-Reply-To: <3C721585-C071-4D3A-AB71-5B1D3DE56CD5@googlemail.com>
References: <3C721585-C071-4D3A-AB71-5B1D3DE56CD5@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <545E0BDE.3080302@gmail.com>

fascinating..... Id rather of had a cute chick in a jauntily poised 
little had handing me my project box, through a dark mysterious little 
hatch with sweet aromas emanating from it.....
and as for a second fob? ah! I never got a first one :P

and about spaces, why dont you contact dragon arts?

they have several large rooms, ....Internet, fairly central to town, a 
car park.....a ramp for disabled access......plenty of room to grow and 
youd be mixed in with some other creative groups too.
music room
pottery
stained glass
photography (including a dark room!)
currently got a fair few foreign language students and asylum seekers too.
and interesting types.... like me :)



Polly,  07824 806194


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 12:26:46 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:26:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Key fob suggestion/idea
In-Reply-To: <545E0BDE.3080302@gmail.com>
References: <3C721585-C071-4D3A-AB71-5B1D3DE56CD5@googlemail.com>
	<545E0BDE.3080302@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <545E0C06.8020800@gmail.com>

had=hat....damn you auto correct!


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sun Nov  9 20:06:13 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:06:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
Message-ID: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?

Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m



From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sun Nov  9 20:18:22 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 20:18:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>

It was me,

and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking
for.

Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have
come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps
its wings when it detects motion.

pictures and a video to follow :)

On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>
> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>
> _______________________________________________
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sun Nov  9 21:08:56 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:08:56 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Todays hacking
Message-ID: <545fd7c3.2861b40a.2dcf.1dd7@mx.google.com>

http://1drv.ms/1zd8mop
http://1drv.ms/10N92EW

Sorry about the crap photos, but its a pteranodon that we built for my wife to learn a bit about the arduino.

Its motion controlled, responding to movement, has pwm controlled color changing leds, measures temp, drives servos.  We couldn't think of anything else to bolt onto it lol.
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 21:37:29 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:37:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and a painted cavity: http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser cutter required)

With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very flammable:
http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/


On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> It was me, 
> 
> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking for.
> 
> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps its wings when it detects motion.
> 
> pictures and a video to follow :)
> 
> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
> 
> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
> 
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sun Nov  9 22:15:55 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 22:15:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <2D47807B-A5F8-4DF1-93E3-7FE7167E49D4@gmail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want to cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but are pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)

Think I will have to keep looking.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Gerrit Niezen" <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
To: "Swansea Hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser

This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and a painted cavity: http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser cutter required)


With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very flammable:
http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/




On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:


It was me, 


and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking for.


Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps its wings when it detects motion.


pictures and a video to follow :)


On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?

Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m

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From jon.j.lilley at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 10:15:12 2014
From: jon.j.lilley at gmail.com (jon lilley)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:15:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <545fe776.a850c20a.30be.4686@mx.google.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
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You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're not
prone to bursting into flame. :)

J
On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want to
> cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but are
> pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>
> Think I will have to keep looking.
> ------------------------------
> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>
> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and a
> painted cavity:
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser
> cutter required)
>
> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very flammable:
>
> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>
>
> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It was me,
>
> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking
> for.
>
> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have
> come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps
> its wings when it detects motion.
>
> pictures and a video to follow :)
>
> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>
>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 10 11:38:59 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:38:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
	:)
In-Reply-To: <545D6424.60301@gmail.com>
References: <545D6424.60301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P7dupNkH6+UQb4w0kpyfe8b23vgwkeMsvw2wzJxrA9rA@mail.gmail.com>

awesome - thanks for sharing

On 8 November 2014 00:30, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS05/
>
> thats it
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 10 11:44:31 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:44:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Key fob suggestion/idea
In-Reply-To: <3C721585-C071-4D3A-AB71-5B1D3DE56CD5@googlemail.com>
References: <3C721585-C071-4D3A-AB71-5B1D3DE56CD5@googlemail.com>
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I'm a strong believer that RFID (like Bluetooth) makes everything better!

the only thing that is better than either RFID and Bluetooth is addressable
RGB LEDs... if you can incorporate addressable LEDs into the projects as
well then you have my full blessing! I can not wait!

On 8 November 2014 02:11, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> If we can organise it, would anyone be averse to having a second fob
> issued to each member of the space, one that we can use internally and have
> full control over to preparing us for future projects.
>
> Examples would be, when people enter or leave the space, so that it is
> logged, but also so we can start doing some live stats on the website, such
> as 'there are currently "6" people in the hackspace'
>
> A basis for a cashless vending machine for things like arduinos, or snacks.
>
> Controls for the machine tools/3d printers etc.  once people are trained
> on a machine it is added to their profile and allows the machine to be used.
>
> Project box packing robot, a robot that retrieves your project box when
> presented with your fob.
>
> These are obviously just suggestions, and are more for the long term.  I
> would say use the existing fobs, but if we need to move to larger space in
> the future then our existing fobs would have to be returned and would be an
> administration nightmare.
>
> In a nutshell, im proposing that we start building a framework that can
> grow with us.
>
> Any comments or suggestions appreciated
>
> As many of you know, im all about the graphing of data and would love to
> see more stats on the website like visits per day, visits by hour, maximum
> at one time etc
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 10 12:10:12 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:10:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and print
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the small 9g
servo motors.

Ceri,
Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a
wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, pulleys
etc.

Thanks

Graham
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Nov 10 12:15:42 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:15:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Key fob suggestion/idea
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Well, if your going to do a checkin/checkout box then it would need to
have a status LED, preferably one with multi colours, heck just put a
neopixel there (in a pingpong ball) and be done with it. :)


Hardware wise such things are pretty trivial to make, an arduino, and
rfid reader, a neopixel, an ethernet shield or maybe wifi.

Then someone needs to work on the boring bit, writing the software to
drive it all.

My biggest concern about making such things is the practical aspects of
using them...

door / timeclock / attendance. i guess it will display a different
colour for checked in and checked out, as someone -will- forget and get
out of sync.  Report back to server, keep a log. fine.

for drinks/snacks then i guess we have to make sure its hard to
accidentally do it twice, we will then have a record of who(s keyfob)
owes what, but how do we get that money off them? its enough hassle
getting everyone to pay their subs on time.

and i'm even less sure how you are ever going to tie a keyfob swipe to
any useful part of the octoprint interface ?

 


On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 11:44 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> I'm a strong believer that RFID (like Bluetooth) makes everything
> better! 
> 
> 
> the only thing that is better than either RFID and Bluetooth is
> addressable RGB LEDs... if you can incorporate addressable LEDs into
> the projects as well then you have my full blessing! I can not wait!
> 
> 
> On 8 November 2014 02:11, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>         If we can organise it, would anyone be averse to having a
>         second fob issued to each member of the space, one that we can
>         use internally and have full control over to preparing us for
>         future projects.
>         
>         Examples would be, when people enter or leave the space, so
>         that it is logged, but also so we can start doing some live
>         stats on the website, such as 'there are currently "6" people
>         in the hackspace'
>         
>         A basis for a cashless vending machine for things like
>         arduinos, or snacks.
>         
>         Controls for the machine tools/3d printers etc.  once people
>         are trained on a machine it is added to their profile and
>         allows the machine to be used.
>         
>         Project box packing robot, a robot that retrieves your project
>         box when presented with your fob.
>         
>         These are obviously just suggestions, and are more for the
>         long term.  I would say use the existing fobs, but if we need
>         to move to larger space in the future then our existing fobs
>         would have to be returned and would be an administration
>         nightmare.
>         
>         In a nutshell, im proposing that we start building a framework
>         that can grow with us.
>         
>         Any comments or suggestions appreciated
>         
>         As many of you know, im all about the graphing of data and
>         would love to see more stats on the website like visits per
>         day, visits by hour, maximum at one time etc
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
> 
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From eclipse at sucs.org  Mon Nov 10 13:38:50 2014
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:38:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5460BFEA.3090302@sucs.org>

Sure, I've just done  quick slice at 0.4mm and uploaded it, it says it 
will take about 1.5 hours and use 7.65m of filament.

Tim
On 10/11/2014 12:10, Graham Owens wrote:
> Hi All
>
> If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and 
> print http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the 
> small 9g servo motors.
>
> Ceri,
> Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a 
> wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, 
> pulleys etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
>
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 10 15:27:33 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:27:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
In-Reply-To: <5460BFEA.3090302@sucs.org>
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	<5460BFEA.3090302@sucs.org>
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Thanks Tim,

I appreciate that :)

Best Regards

Graham

> On 10 Nov 2014, at 13:38, Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org> wrote:
> 
> Sure, I've just done  quick slice at 0.4mm and uploaded it, it says it will take about 1.5 hours and use 7.65m of filament.
> 
> Tim
>> On 10/11/2014 12:10, Graham Owens wrote:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and print http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the small 9g servo motors.
>> 
>> Ceri,
>> Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, pulleys etc.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 10 15:35:02 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:35:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <CAHLFiFDipUP87vK6f9P5pZ9ac4xCO6gH_SxfjTVictc9of_ZzQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Jon,  thanks for that, just done some searching, and it seems to be a hotly debated topic which is best for table tennis, almost as bad as the pic/avr debate lol.

I have found a couple of 'club' balls (plastic) as opposed to 'match' balls (cellulose)- i will do some *destructive testing* ;) tomorrow night to see how prone they are to catch on fire.

I have to admit, i love how uniform the light is from them :)

Will add some pictures to the site.

Best Regards

Graham

> On 10 Nov 2014, at 10:15, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
> 10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're not prone to bursting into flame. :)
> 
> J
> 
>> On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want to cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but are pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>> 
>> Think I will have to keep looking.
>> From: Gerrit Niezen
>> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
>> To: Swansea Hackspace
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>> 
>> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and a painted cavity: http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser cutter required)
>> 
>> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very flammable:
>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was me, 
>>> 
>>> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking for.
>>> 
>>> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps its wings when it detects motion.
>>> 
>>> pictures and a video to follow :)
>>> 
>>>> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>>> 
>>>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>>> 
>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 16:11:08 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:11:08 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
Message-ID: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>

Hi All,

There is a new Raspberry Pi available a model A+


http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
http://www.raspi.today/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-out-now/

?6.84 Inc VAT

http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberrypi

Neil


From eclipse at sucs.org  Mon Nov 10 16:15:46 2014
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:15:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5460E4B2.9050205@sucs.org>

That price is actually ?16.84 from CPC.

Tim
On 10/11/2014 16:11, Neil Jones wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There is a new Raspberry Pi available a model A+
>
>
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
> http://www.raspi.today/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-out-now/
>
> ?6.84 Inc VAT
>
> http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberrypi
>
> Neil
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 16:22:42 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:22:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5460E4B2.9050205@sucs.org>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk> <5460E4B2.9050205@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <5460E652.9010407@aurinia.co.uk>


On 10/11/14 16:15, Tim Clark wrote:
> That price is actually ?16.84 from CPC.
>
> Tim
OOPS sorry Tim. I need to get some way of cleaning my keyboard. There 
seems to be something underneath the 1 key on occasions which causes it 
to stick.
That WOULD be a low price :-)

Neil



> On 10/11/2014 16:11, Neil Jones wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> There is a new Raspberry Pi available a model A+
>>
>>
>> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
>> http://www.raspi.today/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-out-now/
>>
>> ?6.84 Inc VAT
>>
>> http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberrypi
>>
>> Neil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Mon Nov 10 18:39:54 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:39:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20141110183954.5fb81056@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:11:08 +0000
Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> There is a new Raspberry Pi available a model A+
> 
> 
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
> http://www.raspi.today/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-out-now/
> 
> ?6.84 Inc VAT
> 
> http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberrypi

16.84 - cheap but only if you need the RAM.

Alan


From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Nov 11 00:47:38 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:47:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
In-Reply-To: <5460BFEA.3090302@sucs.org>
References: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5460BFEA.3090302@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <54615c8b.08eac20a.69b1.ffffd769@mx.google.com>

Well I think that was a successful print, the gripper is working well on a carboard box of the same size as the target, but without some sugru or rubber bands on the grippy bits it is struggling with the glass target.

Thanks for helping me out everyone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tim Clark" <eclipse at sucs.org>
Sent: ?10/?11/?2014 13:39
To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing

Sure, I've just done  quick slice at 0.4mm and uploaded it, it says it will take about 1.5 hours and use 7.65m of filament.

Tim

On 10/11/2014 12:10, Graham Owens wrote:

Hi All 


If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and print http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the small 9g servo motors.


Ceri,
Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, pulleys etc.


Thanks


Graham

 

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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 10:53:47 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:53:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_UoC70ztbr3bF+TNV1XR1HuuGmUniCFyOog70V2W9P7g@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, my phone only showed first half of message,

Should be OK Vertical, if not too much force, against movement ..

Note unusual belt stringiness, I managed to do it with 1 length, - my
unique selling point ??

Try this link ??

https://app.box.com/s/xgzy8t7o1mk47s4wlix0

OpenSCAD files,

Only if you promise not to abuse, sell claim  as own etc,

I want to get it all together, soon & publish a whole 3D printer ...

Just got to get the 'Z' designed & working  !!!

Cheers

Ceri.


On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and print
> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the small 9g
> servo motors.
>
> Ceri,
> Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a
> wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, pulleys
> etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Nov 11 11:22:16 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:22:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_UoC70ztbr3bF+TNV1XR1HuuGmUniCFyOog70V2W9P7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_UoC70ztbr3bF+TNV1XR1HuuGmUniCFyOog70V2W9P7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4QFU0_wx=uGBq=e+Q=zaoGA77vHww4Xzos4cgTcyEfu0w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ceri

Nope dont want to claim them, sell them or otherwise abuse them.

Just need something to attach the gripper to :)

http://www.my-digital-house.co.uk/images/WP_20141111_002.jpg

http://www.my-digital-house.co.uk/images/WP_20141111_003.jpg

Thanks

On 11 November 2014 10:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, my phone only showed first half of message,
>
> Should be OK Vertical, if not too much force, against movement ..
>
> Note unusual belt stringiness, I managed to do it with 1 length, - my
> unique selling point ??
>
> Try this link ??
>
> https://app.box.com/s/xgzy8t7o1mk47s4wlix0
>
> OpenSCAD files,
>
> Only if you promise not to abuse, sell claim  as own etc,
>
> I want to get it all together, soon & publish a whole 3D printer ...
>
> Just got to get the 'Z' designed & working  !!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ceri.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Graham Owens <
> grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and print
>> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the small 9g
>> servo motors.
>>
>> Ceri,
>> Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a
>> wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, pulleys
>> etc.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 11:38:27 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights Social/3d Printing
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4QFU0_wx=uGBq=e+Q=zaoGA77vHww4Xzos4cgTcyEfu0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJqsN4RE+wEhyn0gnKmu+7JhKZq7dJgU2SfxbC0djbQgXcXoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_UoC70ztbr3bF+TNV1XR1HuuGmUniCFyOog70V2W9P7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QFU0_wx=uGBq=e+Q=zaoGA77vHww4Xzos4cgTcyEfu0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-myTpALhOaQ72MauKYOPWJkFwGmqmPNevR==pY+6u+7g@mail.gmail.com>

I think, if you re-design the 'hand' part, then you should get a
significantly more parallel gripping action,

i did download OpenSCAD files, but all the clever stuff is missing :(

Ceri

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Ceri
>
> Nope dont want to claim them, sell them or otherwise abuse them.
>
> Just need something to attach the gripper to :)
>
> http://www.my-digital-house.co.uk/images/WP_20141111_002.jpg
>
> http://www.my-digital-house.co.uk/images/WP_20141111_003.jpg
>
> Thanks
>
> On 11 November 2014 10:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, my phone only showed first half of message,
>>
>> Should be OK Vertical, if not too much force, against movement ..
>>
>> Note unusual belt stringiness, I managed to do it with 1 length, - my
>> unique selling point ??
>>
>> Try this link ??
>>
>> https://app.box.com/s/xgzy8t7o1mk47s4wlix0
>>
>> OpenSCAD files,
>>
>> Only if you promise not to abuse, sell claim  as own etc,
>>
>> I want to get it all together, soon & publish a whole 3D printer ...
>>
>> Just got to get the 'Z' designed & working  !!!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ceri.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Graham Owens <
>> grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> If the 3d printer is free tonight, can someone help me to slice and
>>> print http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7109 it is a gripper for the
>>> small 9g servo motors.
>>>
>>> Ceri,
>>> Does your xy table work in a vertical orientation?  As in mounted on a
>>> wall, and would you mind sharing your files for the corner mounts, pulleys
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 13:53:33 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:53:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D Scanning
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn85Gyyf1bPANKqtySP0SJA-60Ttdfuogi=_2joKR+FPOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Has any one found a good 'FREE' 3D scanner Hard ware & SW ??


http://hackaday.io/project/2021-3dollar-scanner


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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sun Nov 16 13:56:01 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:56:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>

Cheers for that :)
IVe now got two ordered from CPC Farnell.
it turns out , Ive got a contact in there for trade :)
how handy :D

so just put a rather large order in... awaiting to see how the prices 
pan out.

Ive fallen in love with the Raspberry Pi
and have now devoted a corner of my room to a Pi Temple...well, until 
the house PC blew up next to it. curses.
but brand new MOBO ordered for it, same type.only had that PC from UNI 
for about 10 years :p

and

feedback?
if anyone replies
what do you reckon on this set of sensors for the Pi/Arduino
37 things, 37 quid

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171308936194?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT




On 10/11/2014 16:11, Neil Jones wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There is a new Raspberry Pi available a model A+
>
>
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
> http://www.raspi.today/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-out-now/
>
> ?6.84 Inc VAT
>
> http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberrypi
>
> Neil
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 16 18:12:12 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:12:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <4889DBB7-DE67-4824-A63F-EFEC37E3E84F@googlemail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2D47807B-A5F8-4DF1-93E3-7FE7167E49D4@gmail.com>
	<545fe776.a850c20a.30be.4686@mx.google.com>
	<CAHLFiFDipUP87vK6f9P5pZ9ac4xCO6gH_SxfjTVictc9of_ZzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4889DBB7-DE67-4824-A63F-EFEC37E3E84F@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oP=8UykJ4aHeVVeHS+4B2ADK3ZGg2skdvQc_U1Q4raZmA@mail.gmail.com>

Off Topic

I'm try to get some 12v 10W cob white light led chips but all I can find is
the round ones from RS.   Anybody know of a source for the square ones ?

:  )

Tim_1

On 10 November 2014 15:35, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jon,  thanks for that, just done some searching, and it seems to be a
> hotly debated topic which is best for table tennis, almost as bad as the
> pic/avr debate lol.
>
> I have found a couple of 'club' balls (plastic) as opposed to 'match'
> balls (cellulose)- i will do some *destructive testing* ;) tomorrow night
> to see how prone they are to catch on fire.
>
> I have to admit, i love how uniform the light is from them :)
>
> Will add some pictures to the site.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Graham
>
> On 10 Nov 2014, at 10:15, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
> 10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're not
> prone to bursting into flame. :)
>
> J
> On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want to
>> cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but are
>> pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>>
>> Think I will have to keep looking.
>> ------------------------------
>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>>
>> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and a
>> painted cavity:
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser
>> cutter required)
>>
>> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very
>> flammable:
>>
>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>>
>>
>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It was me,
>>
>> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking
>> for.
>>
>> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have
>> come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps
>> its wings when it detects motion.
>>
>> pictures and a video to follow :)
>>
>> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>>
>>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 17 10:20:35 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:20:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
	<5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>

37 quid!

On 16 November 2014 13:56, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Cheers for that :)
> IVe now got two ordered from CPC Farnell.
> it turns out , Ive got a contact in there for trade :)
> how handy :D
>
> so just put a rather large order in... awaiting to see how the prices pan
> out.
>
> Ive fallen in love with the Raspberry Pi
> and have now devoted a corner of my room to a Pi Temple...well, until the
> house PC blew up next to it. curses.
> but brand new MOBO ordered for it, same type.only had that PC from UNI for
> about 10 years :p
>
> and
>
> feedback?
> if anyone replies
> what do you reckon on this set of sensors for the Pi/Arduino
> 37 things, 37 quid
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171308936194?_trksid=p2055119.
> m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2014 16:11, Neil Jones wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> There is a new Raspberry Pi available a model A+
>>
>>
>> http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
>> http://www.raspi.today/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-out-now/
>>
>> ?6.84 Inc VAT
>>
>> http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberrypi
>>
>> Neil
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Nov 17 10:33:28 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:33:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 16 November 2014 13:56, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:
>         what do you reckon on this set of sensors for the Pi/Arduino
>         37 things, 37 quid
>         
>         http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171308936194?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Same kit is around ?22 on aliexpress

there tends to be some interesting sensors in them, but theres also a
lot of guff, several modules which are just a single LED on a board for
example.

i have also seen the sensor boards sold individually, if theres only a
few that interest you, and of course you can buy pretty much all the
components on their own too.  depends which part of it appeals to you





From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 11:14:32 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:14:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <1416220408.30759.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk> <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
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OH great! cheers will have a look :) yeah I noticed the guff bits..... I 
thought Id have a quick look in Maplins. they are selling the same items 
one at a time of course, for up to about a fiver each.
ouch.
but I did treat myself to a wierd little "Cobbler" break out thing they 
had there that Ive not seen in other places.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/gpio-board-with-terminal-block-for-raspberry-pi-n31nt

just little spring connected clips for when you cant be bothered to 
actually breadboard things but just want to connect stuff.

on about maplins bargain prices..... *cough*
they have just knocked 200 quid off their velleman 3d printer ..... kit.
If I paid that much for a 2nd hand car, I wouldnt want to have to build 
it aswell :p

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/velleman-k8200-3d-printer-kit-n82qg

and yes, Emyr....?37! so I was hoping someone else had a better source.

I'll check out the Ali express site now.
and I may try and get in to the social thing this evening if its one. 
anything planned for it?
Ive not been to one for ....er.....umm........er.........ummm


From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 17 11:16:01 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:16:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5469D898.90406@gmail.com>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk> <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PTMZUMZVsf0ZMTkpNBw5vOXt5+hxSeu5vRswMONUz_yA@mail.gmail.com>

if that kit was 299 I would buy it without hesitation, shame it is soooooo
expensive! the 'normal' price is just plain silly

And yes, that kit is wasteful - I had looked at the individual bits when
they went up on display in Maplin, I thought they were all very overpriced.
Considering they sell the components, and doing it yourself either with
perf or breadboard is so easy.

Heck, you could ugly the more complicated things anyway.

All the messing about I have done with various sensors etc for arduino I
have never seen the need for a module such as what they sell there.

The ONLY reason I could see to get those modules is if you bought a few
hundred for a classroom for teaching sensors etc to children, I would guess
that the components would then be more re-usable then for multiple lessons,
but in real life you build stuff to last or you while designing you make it
on a breadboard and re-use the components

On 17 November 2014 11:14, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> OH great! cheers will have a look :) yeah I noticed the guff bits..... I
> thought Id have a quick look in Maplins. they are selling the same items
> one at a time of course, for up to about a fiver each.
> ouch.
> but I did treat myself to a wierd little "Cobbler" break out thing they
> had there that Ive not seen in other places.
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/gpio-board-with-terminal-
> block-for-raspberry-pi-n31nt
>
> just little spring connected clips for when you cant be bothered to
> actually breadboard things but just want to connect stuff.
>
> on about maplins bargain prices..... *cough*
> they have just knocked 200 quid off their velleman 3d printer ..... kit.
> If I paid that much for a 2nd hand car, I wouldnt want to have to build it
> aswell :p
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/velleman-k8200-3d-printer-kit-n82qg
>
> and yes, Emyr....?37! so I was hoping someone else had a better source.
>
> I'll check out the Ali express site now.
> and I may try and get in to the social thing this evening if its one.
> anything planned for it?
> Ive not been to one for ....er.....umm........er.........ummm
>
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 11:31:00 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:31:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
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	<CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1416220408.30759.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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er.... I guess you mean 29? or 2.99?
and yes I agree with your comments.

Im just looking for a way to bump start my enthusiasm for electronics 
and general geeking about. so being able to just pick something up and 
plug it in.. to check something and go *OOOH!!! WOW! Far out!*
not....cant find a 4.7k resisitor....mmm wheres the veroboard offcuts 
gone...dang!... tracks lifted... etc
was quite appealing :)

and I just checked out ALi Express Justin, the only *kit* sort of thing 
for sensors was

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/XD-277221-PCB-DIY-Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-Sensor-Module-Set-Multicolored-50-Sensor-Suite-Free-Shipping/1970668831.html

more sensors too! but
er

*?83.88

bummer.

so if you see that kit for ?22 could you send me a link?
and sorry for font change...no idea!
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Nov 17 11:31:42 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:31:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <5469DC74.1040109@gmail.com>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk> <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1416220408.30759.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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	<5469DC74.1040109@gmail.com>
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On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 11:31 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> and I just checked out ALi Express Justin, the only *kit* sort of
> thing for sensors was
> 
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/XD-277221-PCB-DIY-Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-Sensor-Module-Set-Multicolored-50-Sensor-Suite-Free-Shipping/1970668831.html
> 

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=37+sensor

for a bit more variety try 'sensor kit arduino' it will list the same
37-in-1 kits plus a few other variants




From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 11:41:58 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:41:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
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References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk> <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
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	<5469DC74.1040109@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5469DF06.3010108@gmail.com>

I now have an ALi Express Account and EMYR!!!
you can select WELSH! as the language!
Tidy :D


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 11:43:22 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:43:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <1416223902.30759.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
	<5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>	<1416220408.30759.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>	<5469D898.90406@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7PTMZUMZVsf0ZMTkpNBw5vOXt5+hxSeu5vRswMONUz_yA@mail.gmail.com>	<5469DC74.1040109@gmail.com>
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Brilliant!
thanks will have a mooch about
>> and I just checked out ALi Express Justin, the only *kit* sort of
>> thing for sensors was
>>
>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/XD-277221-PCB-DIY-Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-Sensor-Module-Set-Multicolored-50-Sensor-Suite-Free-Shipping/1970668831.html
>>
> http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=37+sensor
>
> for a bit more variety try 'sensor kit arduino' it will list the same
> 37-in-1 kits plus a few other variants
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>



From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 17 11:38:35 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:38:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
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References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk> <5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>
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I know, I said that on here a few weeks back - the welsh is pretty bad
though! LOL

10/10 for including Welsh though

got to love the Chinese - that reminds me the local Chinese TakeAway owes
me a free meal for repairing their phone

:-)

On 17 November 2014 11:41, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> I now have an ALi Express Account and EMYR!!!
> you can select WELSH! as the language!
> Tidy :D
>
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 11:57:24 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:57:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
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	<CAGAFX7PTMZUMZVsf0ZMTkpNBw5vOXt5+hxSeu5vRswMONUz_yA@mail.gmail.com>
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Er, is it me or do the picturs of the items for sale often bare no 
resemblence whatsoever, to what they are actually selling?

ie

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Development-Board-Kit-Study-18B20-Temp-Sensor-IR-Receiver-GPIO-For-Raspberry-PI/32224777213.html

lots of sensors and an arduino..... which actually turns into
some wires, crud and LCD display with a remote control?
wierd.

Id better pay more attention to the actual product descrptions on here.
thats without the entertaining Chenglish


From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 17 12:08:42 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:08:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS18532BBE604857BD37EAA67C68B0@phx.gbl>

A better source you ask for?

http://www.banggood.com/37-In-1-Sensor-Module-Board-Set-Kit-For-Arduino-p-89734.html

How about the exact same item (lot of 37 Inc plastic case)?

Most items are around ?1 each with free shipping so you could just pick the odd or or two here and there.

My esp8266 wifi-serial module has arrived, maybe I'll get chance to play with it later.

http://www.banggood.com/ESP8266-Remote-Serial-Port-WIFI-Transceiver-Wireless-Module-p-947259.html


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:17/11/2014  11:52  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+ </div><div>
</div>
Er, is it me or do the picturs of the items for sale often bare no
resemblence whatsoever, to what they are actually selling?

ie

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Development-Board-Kit-Study-18B20-Temp-Sensor-IR-Receiver-GPIO-For-Raspberry-PI/32224777213.html

lots of sensors and an arduino..... which actually turns into
some wires, crud and LCD display with a remote control?
wierd.

Id better pay more attention to the actual product descrptions on here.
thats without the entertaining Chenglish
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 12:20:37 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:20:37 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS18532BBE604857BD37EAA67C68B0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS18532BBE604857BD37EAA67C68B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5469E815.9040907@gmail.com>

Oh super!
great cheers both
so thats two good new sources for stuff.
thanks :)


On 17/11/2014 12:08, djdavies83 wrote:
> A better source you ask for?
>
> http://www.banggood.com/37-In-1-Sensor-Module-Board-Set-Kit-For-Arduino-p-89734.html
>
> How about the exact same item (lot of 37 Inc plastic case)?
>
> Most items are around ?1 each with free shipping so you could just 
> pick the odd or or two here and there.
>
> My esp8266 wifi-serial module has arrived, maybe I'll get chance to 
> play with it later.
>
> http://www.banggood.com/ESP8266-Remote-Serial-Port-WIFI-Transceiver-Wireless-Module-p-947259.html
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ian Bullfrog
> Date:17/11/2014 11:52 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
>
> Er, is it me or do the picturs of the items for sale often bare no
> resemblence whatsoever, to what they are actually selling?
>
> ie
>
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Development-Board-Kit-Study-18B20-Temp-Sensor-IR-Receiver-GPIO-For-Raspberry-PI/32224777213.html
>
> lots of sensors and an arduino..... which actually turns into
> some wires, crud and LCD display with a remote control?
> wierd.
>
> Id better pay more attention to the actual product descrptions on here.
> thats without the entertaining Chenglish
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 17 12:53:00 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:53:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS30311E768E88F94D2A254C2C68B0@phx.gbl>

Glad to help, if you have not registered on
http://www.banggood.com/?zf=75348

Please use this link http://www.banggood.com/?zf=75348

It's not much but they give $3 credit when you refer a friend, it could get me some dupont cables or some pin headers to help me do stuff.

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</div>
Oh super!
great cheers both
so thats two good new sources for stuff.
thanks :)


On 17/11/2014 12:08, djdavies83 wrote:
> A better source you ask for?
>
> http://www.banggood.com/37-In-1-Sensor-Module-Board-Set-Kit-For-Arduino-p-89734.html
>
> How about the exact same item (lot of 37 Inc plastic case)?
>
> Most items are around ?1 each with free shipping so you could just
> pick the odd or or two here and there.
>
> My esp8266 wifi-serial module has arrived, maybe I'll get chance to
> play with it later.
>
> http://www.banggood.com/ESP8266-Remote-Serial-Port-WIFI-Transceiver-Wireless-Module-p-947259.html
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ian Bullfrog
> Date:17/11/2014 11:52 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
>
> Er, is it me or do the picturs of the items for sale often bare no
> resemblence whatsoever, to what they are actually selling?
>
> ie
>
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Development-Board-Kit-Study-18B20-Temp-Sensor-IR-Receiver-GPIO-For-Raspberry-PI/32224777213.html
>
> lots of sensors and an arduino..... which actually turns into
> some wires, crud and LCD display with a remote control?
> wierd.
>
> Id better pay more attention to the actual product descrptions on here.
> thats without the entertaining Chenglish
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Mon Nov 17 12:55:03 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:55:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Pst2BDb1LSedCN=VYn5279O716yHy+9HaOjJ=SJ1e50A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5460E39C.5010502@aurinia.co.uk>
	<5468ACF1.3050100@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7Nt-WMaj0k=_qt_oQv1HYNqVgoS+vkX91PsnFSXQocctg@mail.gmail.com>	<1416220408.30759.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>	<5469D898.90406@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7PTMZUMZVsf0ZMTkpNBw5vOXt5+hxSeu5vRswMONUz_yA@mail.gmail.com>	<5469DC74.1040109@gmail.com>
	<5469DF06.3010108@gmail.com>
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On 17/11/14 11:38, Emyr Morris wrote:
> I know, I said that on here a few weeks back - the welsh is pretty bad 
> though! LOL
>
> 10/10 for including Welsh though
>
> got to love the Chinese - that reminds me the local Chinese TakeAway 
> owes me a free meal for repairing their phone.
>
> :-)
It is Google Translate I think. It is pretty bad. I loved them using 
"Llongau" for "shipping" well it does mean "ships"- Those that sail on 
the sea!

Humans can do an even worse job as in this example. :-)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tesco-cash-machine-offers-free-erection-because-of-mistake-translating-sign-into-welsh-9824046.html

Neil
>
> On 17 November 2014 11:41, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com 
> <mailto:sevendev.tk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I now have an ALi Express Account and EMYR!!!
>     you can select WELSH! as the language!
>     Tidy :D
>
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>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they 
> are addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn 
> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy 
> atynt yn unig.
>
>
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 13:17:19 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:17:19 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Rasp pi A+
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS18532BBE604857BD37EAA67C68B0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS18532BBE604857BD37EAA67C68B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5469F55F.6070307@gmail.com>

ok, just signed up for the banggood account too.
so whoever just asked me to use thier link for credits , I have :) thing 
it was djdavies.

I still have difficulty reading/navigating the thunderbird. email. oh 
and emails dissapear in it! quality. then reappear somewhere else. 
doesnt help.
so anyway. there you go. thats points for you and....well, I now have 
two new accounts here and aliexpress and.... have lost several hours of 
my life :D

I really should order a sensor kit now to justify it all.


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 15:10:03 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:10:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RFID
Message-ID: <546A0FCB.4090005@gmail.com>

ELO.
JUST noticed these reduced on Banggoods.

you guys seem to salivate over them so thought Id send you a link to them

http://www.banggood.com/125kHz-RFID-Proximity-ID-Token-Tag-Key-Keyfobs-For-Access-System-p-930291.html


From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 17:16:26 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:16:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oP=8UykJ4aHeVVeHS+4B2ADK3ZGg2skdvQc_U1Q4raZmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2D47807B-A5F8-4DF1-93E3-7FE7167E49D4@gmail.com>
	<545fe776.a850c20a.30be.4686@mx.google.com>
	<CAHLFiFDipUP87vK6f9P5pZ9ac4xCO6gH_SxfjTVictc9of_ZzQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8gntyHbJoAQ+rMDKFYRcge21MqTrFmJ4mh1ikafVG9FA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.banggood.com/5W-Round-COB-LED-Bead-Chips-For-Down-Light-Ceiling-Lamp-DC-15-17V-p-919789.html

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Off Topic
>
> I'm try to get some 12v 10W cob white light led chips but all I can find
> is the round ones from RS.   Anybody know of a source for the square ones ?
>
> :  )
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 10 November 2014 15:35, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jon,  thanks for that, just done some searching, and it seems to be a
>> hotly debated topic which is best for table tennis, almost as bad as the
>> pic/avr debate lol.
>>
>> I have found a couple of 'club' balls (plastic) as opposed to 'match'
>> balls (cellulose)- i will do some *destructive testing* ;) tomorrow night
>> to see how prone they are to catch on fire.
>>
>> I have to admit, i love how uniform the light is from them :)
>>
>> Will add some pictures to the site.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On 10 Nov 2014, at 10:15, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
>> 10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're not
>> prone to bursting into flame. :)
>>
>> J
>> On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want to
>>> cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but are
>>> pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>>>
>>> Think I will have to keep looking.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
>>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>>>
>>> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and a
>>> painted cavity:
>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser
>>> cutter required)
>>>
>>> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very
>>> flammable:
>>>
>>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It was me,
>>>
>>> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was looking
>>> for.
>>>
>>> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we have
>>> come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that flaps
>>> its wings when it detects motion.
>>>
>>> pictures and a video to follow :)
>>>
>>> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>>>
>>>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
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>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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>>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 17:32:19 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:32:19 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8gntyHbJoAQ+rMDKFYRcge21MqTrFmJ4mh1ikafVG9FA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2D47807B-A5F8-4DF1-93E3-7FE7167E49D4@gmail.com>
	<545fe776.a850c20a.30be.4686@mx.google.com>
	<CAHLFiFDipUP87vK6f9P5pZ9ac4xCO6gH_SxfjTVictc9of_ZzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4889DBB7-DE67-4824-A63F-EFEC37E3E84F@googlemail.com>
	<CAAEY5oP=8UykJ4aHeVVeHS+4B2ADK3ZGg2skdvQc_U1Q4raZmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8gntyHbJoAQ+rMDKFYRcge21MqTrFmJ4mh1ikafVG9FA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oPUthWWe8VZEzdhnc4Xc_oNkBhoKfHo+VrE_5Km_YJftw@mail.gmail.com>

Many thanks Ceri, I've ordered one and I'll see what I can get out of it !
Price is brilliant !

:  ))))

Tim

On 17 November 2014 17:16, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> http://www.banggood.com/5W-Round-COB-LED-Bead-Chips-For-Down-Light-Ceiling-Lamp-DC-15-17V-p-919789.html
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Off Topic
>>
>> I'm try to get some 12v 10W cob white light led chips but all I can find
>> is the round ones from RS.   Anybody know of a source for the square ones ?
>>
>> :  )
>>
>> Tim_1
>>
>> On 10 November 2014 15:35, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jon,  thanks for that, just done some searching, and it seems to be a
>>> hotly debated topic which is best for table tennis, almost as bad as the
>>> pic/avr debate lol.
>>>
>>> I have found a couple of 'club' balls (plastic) as opposed to 'match'
>>> balls (cellulose)- i will do some *destructive testing* ;) tomorrow night
>>> to see how prone they are to catch on fire.
>>>
>>> I have to admit, i love how uniform the light is from them :)
>>>
>>> Will add some pictures to the site.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> On 10 Nov 2014, at 10:15, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
>>> 10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're not
>>> prone to bursting into flame. :)
>>>
>>> J
>>> On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want to
>>>> cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but are
>>>> pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>>>>
>>>> Think I will have to keep looking.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
>>>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>>>>
>>>> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and
>>>> a painted cavity:
>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser
>>>> cutter required)
>>>>
>>>> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very
>>>> flammable:
>>>>
>>>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was me,
>>>>
>>>> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was
>>>> looking for.
>>>>
>>>> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we
>>>> have come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that
>>>> flaps its wings when it detects motion.
>>>>
>>>> pictures and a video to follow :)
>>>>
>>>> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 17:49:03 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:49:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oPUthWWe8VZEzdhnc4Xc_oNkBhoKfHo+VrE_5Km_YJftw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAJqsN4SMGXc7CYLjsd92q+ydXjvvctOvz13124YOqFU+XZU1sQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2D47807B-A5F8-4DF1-93E3-7FE7167E49D4@gmail.com>
	<545fe776.a850c20a.30be.4686@mx.google.com>
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	<CAAEY5oP=8UykJ4aHeVVeHS+4B2ADK3ZGg2skdvQc_U1Q4raZmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8gntyHbJoAQ+rMDKFYRcge21MqTrFmJ4mh1ikafVG9FA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_Rz2YN68tsxRqKqZ4cPiqLxUgOJVYu0r0i5zF71jtYdw@mail.gmail.com>

Hope you have a good PSU or driver circuit.

And possibly a heat-sink !!!

Ceri

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Many thanks Ceri, I've ordered one and I'll see what I can get out of it
> !  Price is brilliant !
>
> :  ))))
>
> Tim
>
> On 17 November 2014 17:16, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.banggood.com/5W-Round-COB-LED-Bead-Chips-For-Down-Light-Ceiling-Lamp-DC-15-17V-p-919789.html
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Off Topic
>>>
>>> I'm try to get some 12v 10W cob white light led chips but all I can find
>>> is the round ones from RS.   Anybody know of a source for the square ones ?
>>>
>>> :  )
>>>
>>> Tim_1
>>>
>>> On 10 November 2014 15:35, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jon,  thanks for that, just done some searching, and it seems to be
>>>> a hotly debated topic which is best for table tennis, almost as bad as the
>>>> pic/avr debate lol.
>>>>
>>>> I have found a couple of 'club' balls (plastic) as opposed to 'match'
>>>> balls (cellulose)- i will do some *destructive testing* ;) tomorrow night
>>>> to see how prone they are to catch on fire.
>>>>
>>>> I have to admit, i love how uniform the light is from them :)
>>>>
>>>> Will add some pictures to the site.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> On 10 Nov 2014, at 10:15, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
>>>> 10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're
>>>> not prone to bursting into flame. :)
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>> On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want
>>>>> to cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but
>>>>> are pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>>>>>
>>>>> Think I will have to keep looking.
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
>>>>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>>>>>
>>>>> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic and
>>>>> a painted cavity:
>>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser
>>>>> cutter required)
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very
>>>>> flammable:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It was me,
>>>>>
>>>>> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was
>>>>> looking for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we
>>>>> have come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that
>>>>> flaps its wings when it detects motion.
>>>>>
>>>>> pictures and a video to follow :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 18:50:05 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:50:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] So is anyone in the hackspace tonight and whats
	going on there>
Message-ID: <546A435D.1000408@gmail.com>

?

thats it really
:)


From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 19:01:32 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:01:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_Rz2YN68tsxRqKqZ4cPiqLxUgOJVYu0r0i5zF71jtYdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1415563573.18265.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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	<CAO=DJn8gntyHbJoAQ+rMDKFYRcge21MqTrFmJ4mh1ikafVG9FA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oPUthWWe8VZEzdhnc4Xc_oNkBhoKfHo+VrE_5Km_YJftw@mail.gmail.com>
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Ordered those a few days ago !

Many thanks,

:  )))

Tim

On 17 November 2014 17:49, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hope you have a good PSU or driver circuit.
>
> And possibly a heat-sink !!!
>
> Ceri
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Many thanks Ceri, I've ordered one and I'll see what I can get out of it
>> !  Price is brilliant !
>>
>> :  ))))
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 17 November 2014 17:16, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.banggood.com/5W-Round-COB-LED-Bead-Chips-For-Down-Light-Ceiling-Lamp-DC-15-17V-p-919789.html
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Off Topic
>>>>
>>>> I'm try to get some 12v 10W cob white light led chips but all I can
>>>> find is the round ones from RS.   Anybody know of a source for the square
>>>> ones ?
>>>>
>>>> :  )
>>>>
>>>> Tim_1
>>>>
>>>> On 10 November 2014 15:35, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jon,  thanks for that, just done some searching, and it seems to be
>>>>> a hotly debated topic which is best for table tennis, almost as bad as the
>>>>> pic/avr debate lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found a couple of 'club' balls (plastic) as opposed to 'match'
>>>>> balls (cellulose)- i will do some *destructive testing* ;) tomorrow night
>>>>> to see how prone they are to catch on fire.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to admit, i love how uniform the light is from them :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Will add some pictures to the site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10 Nov 2014, at 10:15, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You could use "practice" ping-pong balls.
>>>>> 10 for 99p from China, and they're not made of celluloid, so they're
>>>>> not prone to bursting into flame. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>> On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gah, the ping pong's give exactly the look I wanted but I don't want
>>>>>> to cause a fire hazard, and the triangles look really cool, are safe but
>>>>>> are pretty hard to make. (in comparison to sticking a pingpong over an led)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think I will have to keep looking.
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: ?09/?11/?2014 21:37
>>>>>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] LED diffuser
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This LED triangle creates a beautiful even diffusion using acrylic
>>>>>> and a painted cavity:
>>>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-great-LED-triangle/ (laser
>>>>>> cutter required)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards to ping pong balls - keep in mind that they?re very
>>>>>> flammable:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/08/warning-ping-pong-balls-are-very-flammable/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 20:18, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was me,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and i have to say they look pretty awesome, very much what i was
>>>>>> looking for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today i have mostly been doing a teach the wife arduino day, and we
>>>>>> have come up the a colour changing, temperature sensing pteranodon that
>>>>>> flaps its wings when it detects motion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pictures and a video to follow :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 November 2014 20:06, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Someone was asking about good diffusers for an LED the other day?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just seen this article using ping pong balls, looks pretty good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101411395547219906775/posts/fJvzXwBzi4m
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 19:47:59 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:47:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
Message-ID: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>

havent heard from the space, webcams down so not sure whats going on 
tonight, so shall give it a miss.
was called Emyr to see if he was going... his brake lights have failed 
on car, so you may/may not see him too.
if Dr Tim is there...say HI TIM... to him for me.

will try again.

ps.
Got the sensor kit for 23 from banggood so djd gets his points or 
whatever and some other stuff and then used ALi express for a couple of 
other things.
it took me about an hour to finalise my order on banggood. order 
interface/address very clunky. wouldnt give me a county, no drop down 
and wouldnt let me carry on with order until I selected a county from 
the drop down it wouldnt show me! aaargh.
and each refresh meant typing it all in again. oh joy.

but done now.

Also.
My cousin just asked me to make a light for his microscope with variable 
power with a super bright LED>
the flowery shaped affair.

easy I said! you can use an arduino to play with it and use pwm to 
er...umm switch something...erm.

then I did some googling.
not that straight forward.

curses.

any suggestions on where to start? Id like to play with the arduino and 
program it...because ive got one. but not sure what to drive LED with.

and then maybe use a pic or something. Im open to ideas.

oh and with that sensor kit.
I noticed that some of the sensors, have a rectangular blue pot with a 
tiny 8 leg chip on them.
any idea what that chip would be about and would it make the sensors 
voltage specific, ie, 3.3 as opposed to 5v , Pi /arduino etc?

ok cheerio


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 21:56:21 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:56:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB, mac software
Message-ID: <546A6F05.5060905@gmail.com>

ELo , has anyone used Osmond pcb design stuff for Mac.

http://osmondpcb.com/
http://www.rau-deaver.org/Osmond1.html

and the latest release STILL runs on my Snow leopard OS... woo hoo! love 
them, give them biscuits.
the add on stuff at rau-deaver though doesnt.....grrrr....snatch 
biscuits back from them!

Im assuming some of you have used Eagle.
http://www.cadsoftusa.com/download-eagle/freeware/

Im obviously at the low end of the food chain with regards licencing 
..oh! and ability. yes thats it
No need for Map size PCB designs for me... possibly a stamp...that would 
tax my abilities.

anyway?
maybe something else>?
I think you had a circuit design workshop some time that I really wanted 
to get too, but for some reason I dont seem to get the emails
I checked my email preferences I think im subscribed but?....

anyway. any advice on Osmond/Eagle/Probably some other radically 
different Open source, command line, type it with your teeth sort of 
alternative?

Ive only ever used some windows top notch windows pcb design thing with 
auto routing when in uni. I have it on my house pc, ..which has just 
blown up. meh
new mobo in the post :) but have forgotten everything about that. when I 
change mobo I can boot it up again and see what it was!

but prefer to go the MAC route or then linux....hell! on a Pi even :) 
... if I could print from it.

so if theres something coming up , or a resource thats awesome or 
someone who really knows thier stuff with regards one of these, (or 
doesnt but is just infectiously enthusiastic about one of them... I may 
catch it!) then drop me a line.
ok cheers.

ps. as you can tell, someone has given me interent access today, so Ive 
been doing loads of stuff ..er....and mailing a lot :)


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Nov 17 22:24:20 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:24:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB, mac software
In-Reply-To: <546A6F05.5060905@gmail.com>
References: <546A6F05.5060905@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1416263060.32280.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 21:56 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> I think you had a circuit design workshop some time that I really wanted 

The tutorial i ran was KiCAD  http://www.kicad-pcb.org

A much simpler, and easier to get started system is Fritzing
http://fritzing.org


both are free with linux and macosx versions.



From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 22:49:58 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:49:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB, mac software
In-Reply-To: <1416263060.32280.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <546A6F05.5060905@gmail.com>
	<1416263060.32280.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <546A7B96.9020902@gmail.com>

ah yes! I remember the name now thanks I installed it but missed the 
workshop. the other one ive not heard off.

will check that one out too now and give it a whizz if I can.

ok will check out fritz now.
and were there any resources put up on the website? ive been looking 
couldnt find anything, oh and thats with regards your kicad tutorial  
you did?

ok cheers for the info.


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 22:59:56 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:59:56 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB, mac software
In-Reply-To: <1416263060.32280.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <546A6F05.5060905@gmail.com>
	<1416263060.32280.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <546A7DEC.6000109@gmail.com>

wow!!! Fritzing.... just WOW!!!

computers having finally come of age
and teaching how to do things and use them for the masses.

oh my god yes!


On 17/11/2014 22:24, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 21:56 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
>> I think you had a circuit design workshop some time that I really wanted
> The tutorial i ran was KiCAD  http://www.kicad-pcb.org
>
> A much simpler, and easier to get started system is Fritzing
> http://fritzing.org
>
>
> both are free with linux and macosx versions.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 06:32:06 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 06:32:06 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
In-Reply-To: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
References: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8ecWLxqP7DvnUtQ49KoMvfxp9UpLfgkmP8+RMXQrOS+g@mail.gmail.com>

PWM is very simple.
Connect O/P to transistor of FET an you are away. ..
On 17 Nov 2014 19:41, "Ian Bullfrog" <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> havent heard from the space, webcams down so not sure whats going on
> tonight, so shall give it a miss.
> was called Emyr to see if he was going... his brake lights have failed on
> car, so you may/may not see him too.
> if Dr Tim is there...say HI TIM... to him for me.
>
> will try again.
>
> ps.
> Got the sensor kit for 23 from banggood so djd gets his points or whatever
> and some other stuff and then used ALi express for a couple of other things.
> it took me about an hour to finalise my order on banggood. order
> interface/address very clunky. wouldnt give me a county, no drop down and
> wouldnt let me carry on with order until I selected a county from the drop
> down it wouldnt show me! aaargh.
> and each refresh meant typing it all in again. oh joy.
>
> but done now.
>
> Also.
> My cousin just asked me to make a light for his microscope with variable
> power with a super bright LED>
> the flowery shaped affair.
>
> easy I said! you can use an arduino to play with it and use pwm to
> er...umm switch something...erm.
>
> then I did some googling.
> not that straight forward.
>
> curses.
>
> any suggestions on where to start? Id like to play with the arduino and
> program it...because ive got one. but not sure what to drive LED with.
>
> and then maybe use a pic or something. Im open to ideas.
>
> oh and with that sensor kit.
> I noticed that some of the sensors, have a rectangular blue pot with a
> tiny 8 leg chip on them.
> any idea what that chip would be about and would it make the sensors
> voltage specific, ie, 3.3 as opposed to 5v , Pi /arduino etc?
>
> ok cheerio
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Nov 18 08:38:05 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:38:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8ecWLxqP7DvnUtQ49KoMvfxp9UpLfgkmP8+RMXQrOS+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <D5452009-DB86-4D36-A423-9423FF5E6826@googlemail.com>

Hi ian

From the description of the pot you have given, it sounds more like incremental encoder (blue 8 pin dip on the bottom) used for things like volume control (or led duty control), or it could be a buffer but that would be less lightly to be the case.

Is there a reason to use an arduino in your led project, as you could probably achieve the same result with a 555 timer, or a small 8 pin device like a pic12f629 (just off the top of my head as i have one) they cost about 50p compared to the price of the arduino.

Of course if i was building a light for my microscope i would have both pure white and rgb leds mounted to it, with a keypad to enter an rgb value because under certain colors of light different things are visible.  I use my microscope to examine pcbs, but by changing the color of light i can easier detect certain faults.

Best Regards

Graham Owens

> On 18 Nov 2014, at 06:32, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> PWM is very simple. 
> Connect O/P to transistor of FET an you are away. ..
> 
>> On 17 Nov 2014 19:41, "Ian Bullfrog" <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> havent heard from the space, webcams down so not sure whats going on tonight, so shall give it a miss.
>> was called Emyr to see if he was going... his brake lights have failed on car, so you may/may not see him too.
>> if Dr Tim is there...say HI TIM... to him for me.
>> 
>> will try again.
>> 
>> ps.
>> Got the sensor kit for 23 from banggood so djd gets his points or whatever and some other stuff and then used ALi express for a couple of other things.
>> it took me about an hour to finalise my order on banggood. order interface/address very clunky. wouldnt give me a county, no drop down and wouldnt let me carry on with order until I selected a county from the drop down it wouldnt show me! aaargh.
>> and each refresh meant typing it all in again. oh joy.
>> 
>> but done now.
>> 
>> Also.
>> My cousin just asked me to make a light for his microscope with variable power with a super bright LED>
>> the flowery shaped affair.
>> 
>> easy I said! you can use an arduino to play with it and use pwm to er...umm switch something...erm.
>> 
>> then I did some googling.
>> not that straight forward.
>> 
>> curses.
>> 
>> any suggestions on where to start? Id like to play with the arduino and program it...because ive got one. but not sure what to drive LED with.
>> 
>> and then maybe use a pic or something. Im open to ideas.
>> 
>> oh and with that sensor kit.
>> I noticed that some of the sensors, have a rectangular blue pot with a tiny 8 leg chip on them.
>> any idea what that chip would be about and would it make the sensors voltage specific, ie, 3.3 as opposed to 5v , Pi /arduino etc?
>> 
>> ok cheerio
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> _______________________________________________
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Nov 18 08:40:52 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:40:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8ecWLxqP7DvnUtQ49KoMvfxp9UpLfgkmP8+RMXQrOS+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8ecWLxqP7DvnUtQ49KoMvfxp9UpLfgkmP8+RMXQrOS+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B3CF78E-9462-42DA-9B32-42D5FAC05E87@googlemail.com>

Also, every time i have been in on a monday night people have been in the space regardless from about 7.30 till about 9.

If the camera was down, then you could have popped down anyway and fixed the camera while you were there.

Best Regards

Graham Owens

> On 18 Nov 2014, at 06:32, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> PWM is very simple. 
> Connect O/P to transistor of FET an you are away. ..
> 
>> On 17 Nov 2014 19:41, "Ian Bullfrog" <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> havent heard from the space, webcams down so not sure whats going on tonight, so shall give it a miss.
>> was called Emyr to see if he was going... his brake lights have failed on car, so you may/may not see him too.
>> if Dr Tim is there...say HI TIM... to him for me.
>> 
>> will try again.
>> 
>> ps.
>> Got the sensor kit for 23 from banggood so djd gets his points or whatever and some other stuff and then used ALi express for a couple of other things.
>> it took me about an hour to finalise my order on banggood. order interface/address very clunky. wouldnt give me a county, no drop down and wouldnt let me carry on with order until I selected a county from the drop down it wouldnt show me! aaargh.
>> and each refresh meant typing it all in again. oh joy.
>> 
>> but done now.
>> 
>> Also.
>> My cousin just asked me to make a light for his microscope with variable power with a super bright LED>
>> the flowery shaped affair.
>> 
>> easy I said! you can use an arduino to play with it and use pwm to er...umm switch something...erm.
>> 
>> then I did some googling.
>> not that straight forward.
>> 
>> curses.
>> 
>> any suggestions on where to start? Id like to play with the arduino and program it...because ive got one. but not sure what to drive LED with.
>> 
>> and then maybe use a pic or something. Im open to ideas.
>> 
>> oh and with that sensor kit.
>> I noticed that some of the sensors, have a rectangular blue pot with a tiny 8 leg chip on them.
>> any idea what that chip would be about and would it make the sensors voltage specific, ie, 3.3 as opposed to 5v , Pi /arduino etc?
>> 
>> ok cheerio
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 09:39:59 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:39:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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Graham:
ha! *fix the camera*
?
yes Im sure Justin wouldnt have had a sense of humour failure to find 
someone tinkering with his hardware...
*blue tac.....glue.....cable snips...and now Ill just reboot his router 
and...oh......why didnt someone tell me about that ?*
:D

and no reason on the ARDUINO apart from me having one and thought Id 
just actually use it! to check out my pwm theory. then yeah move onto 
the pic or suchlike and wow. is the 555 still going? thats amazing. the 
very first test equipment I built for Lucas when doing my apprenticeship 
was a fuel and temp guage calibration unit for their bimetallic 
meters...and I used one of those. perfect......except that..... every so 
often... they would just explode!
I never got to the bottom of that and so my test kit never made it to 
the shop floor. but it was an experience

and id like then to use the Pic, just to do the whole programming thing

and yes! multicolour LED sounds like a fab idea... but currently ive got 
the superbright LED hes given me, Ill try and get the datasheet...and a 
pot! since thats how he was going to do it.
    My cousin keeps bees (he also builds the hives....a 
scythe...converted alternators into wind gennies, built model ships, 
lamps, honey extractors (hand driven centrifuge based on an old 
mangle!!!), basically anything that takes his fancy from just about any 
field that takes his fancy)  he really is a hacker ...but doesnt know it.
and.... to sell honey as a specific honey...ie, heather 
honey...chestnut... the pollen count has to be over 75% from that plant.
so! he wants to be able to check the honey (after having built another 
device he is designing...another sort of cenrifuge to hooof all the 
pollen to one side of the honey for examination) hence the super light!
    It would be interesting to see if different lights show different 
pollens up differently ! :)
so good brain food. cheers.

is there a RGB high intensity LED or suchlike available in the space for 
tinkering with?
or do you recommend a particular one for such like.
having said that.....high intensity nowadays....is probably bog standard 
LEDs compared to the ones we used to use.

with regards 555 timer and instructables site, I found this
http://www.instructables.com/id/PWM-Lamp-Dimmer-using-NE555-Timer/
but for low intensity.

and

Ceri:
cheers for the concise circuit description :P :D hee eh
I have never used FETs, normal trannies yeah. I looked at some circuits 
on Instructables. one had an FET..but wierd!
it sort of bypassed the LEDS... not what I was expecting. and then gave  
a link to a slide show that was quite interesting.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Dimming-an-LED-lamp-with-an-Arduino/

and this is the presentation he links to to explain it
http://www.rotormind.com/blog/2010/Sunglasses-at-Night-or-How-to-Drive-High-Current-LEDs/

and then I noticed this
http://www.instructables.com/id/Aurora-9x18-RGB-LED-art/
ooooh!

which took me onto the guys site
http://blog.theledart.com/blog/

wow! and so nicely written, nice sounding guy.
I guess Sharon has already seen his site as she seemed to be into the 
whole LED/wearable art sort of thing.
if not, shiny aint it :)

This could be fun :)


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Nov 18 09:38:14 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:38:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 08:38 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:

> Is there a reason to use an arduino in your led project, as you could
> probably achieve the same result with a 555 timer, or a small 8 pin
> device like a pic12f629 (just off the top of my head as i have one)
> they cost about 50p compared to the price of the arduino.

I have been using the PIC 12F1840 in recent years, same kind of price,
loads of features on it.  Theres tutorials on the website using it as
well as a bootloader for it.

Use the pickit in the space (tool cupboard) to flash the bootloader onto
it, and then you can just connect the chip to a serial port (eg a usb
uart board) and reprogram it at will just like an arduino.

If you are dead set on using an arduino then use a mini-pro board, you
can get them off places like aliexpress from ?1.50 and up.  Same cpu as
the big arduino uno boards, but without the usb (you need to hook up
your own usb uart board to program it)





From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 09:53:23 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:53:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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On 18/11/2014 09:38, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 08:38 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>
>> Is there a reason to use an arduino in your led project, as you could
>> probably achieve the same result with a 555 timer, or a small 8 pin
>> device like a pic12f629 (just off the top of my head as i have one)
>> they cost about 50p compared to the price of the arduino.
> I have been using the PIC 12F1840 in recent years, same kind of price,
> loads of features on it.  Theres tutorials on the website using it as
> well as a bootloader for it.
>
> Use the pickit in the space (tool cupboard) to flash the bootloader onto
> it, and then you can just connect the chip to a serial port (eg a usb
> uart board) and reprogram it at will just like an arduino.
>
> If you are dead set on using an arduino then use a mini-pro board, you
> can get them off places like aliexpress from ?1.50 and up.  Same cpu as
> the big arduino uno boards, but without the usb (you need to hook up
> your own usb uart board to program it)
>
>
>
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Ah cheers. Justin. I'll check the website out for the PIC stuff. thanks :)
I've got some pic programmers here, will have to see what is still 
viable/ serial ports on PC etc, software. I know I spent a good while 
finding working software to burn them with the Mac so shall fire that up 
later and see what PICs I have around here. not sure, will have to have 
a look :) then see if I can adapt something.

and also, thanks I got the mini-pro or whatever board it was off your 
fine selves when in the hackspace and the pl20..33? the usb to uart 
little device with the pins :)

so its just to get it all going really. may start with the chunky 
arduino...then the mini.... then a pic.... maybe use the Pi later, and 
program something in Python, just for fun.
If Im lucky I may a 12f1840 here. if not, are there any down the space?

ok cheerio for now


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Nov 18 09:55:16 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:55:16 +0000
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On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 09:53 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:

> If Im lucky I may a 12f1840 here. if not, are there any down the space?

I don't think so, will have to look next time i'm there




From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 10:03:11 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:03:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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On 18/11/2014 09:38, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 08:38 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>
>> Is there a reason to use an arduino in your led project, as you could
>> probably achieve the same result with a 555 timer, or a small 8 pin
>> device like a pic12f629 (just off the top of my head as i have one)
>> they cost about 50p compared to the price of the arduino.
> I have been using the PIC 12F1840 in recent years, same kind of price,
> loads of features on it.  Theres tutorials on the website using it as
> well as a bootloader for it.
>
> Use the pickit in the space (tool cupboard) to flash the bootloader onto
> it, and then you can just connect the chip to a serial port (eg a usb
> uart board) and reprogram it at will just like an arduino.
>
> If you are dead set on using an arduino then use a mini-pro board, you
> can get them off places like aliexpress from ?1.50 and up.  Same cpu as
> the big arduino uno boards, but without the usb (you need to hook up
> your own usb uart board to program it)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
I just found a 16f84a Pic in a serial programmer here. may have a tinker 
later :) going to treat myself to a pony breakfast and then attempt some 
attic/garage/cellar sorting... to create space to make a space for 
eletronkicaling
:)


From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 10:06:36 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:06:36 +0000
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You can use a FET almost a 100% replacement for On/Off transistor,

but It is a voltage to gate (base) not current,

so a higher gate resistor should be used (10 -100K instead of less than 5K),
and a gate to Gnd resistor of 50 - 500 K (ish)

Ceri

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 18/11/2014 09:38, Justin Mitchell wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 08:38 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>>
>>  Is there a reason to use an arduino in your led project, as you could
>>> probably achieve the same result with a 555 timer, or a small 8 pin
>>> device like a pic12f629 (just off the top of my head as i have one)
>>> they cost about 50p compared to the price of the arduino.
>>>
>> I have been using the PIC 12F1840 in recent years, same kind of price,
>> loads of features on it.  Theres tutorials on the website using it as
>> well as a bootloader for it.
>>
>> Use the pickit in the space (tool cupboard) to flash the bootloader onto
>> it, and then you can just connect the chip to a serial port (eg a usb
>> uart board) and reprogram it at will just like an arduino.
>>
>> If you are dead set on using an arduino then use a mini-pro board, you
>> can get them off places like aliexpress from ?1.50 and up.  Same cpu as
>> the big arduino uno boards, but without the usb (you need to hook up
>> your own usb uart board to program it)
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
> I just found a 16f84a Pic in a serial programmer here. may have a tinker
> later :) going to treat myself to a pony breakfast and then attempt some
> attic/garage/cellar sorting... to create space to make a space for
> eletronkicaling
>
> :)
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 18 10:43:04 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:43:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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look at this Ian

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-LM2596-Buck-Regulator-Module-DC-DC-Step-Down-Adjustable-CC-CV-LED-Driver-/251510322961?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item3a8f2ef711

it has adjustable current o/p so perfect for controlling a LED, you could
take off the potentiometer that controls the current and bring it out to
the surface of your enclosure to a pot with a nice big knob on it ;-)

oops!

Emyr

PS made it to the space in the end - and there starts a long story! LOL

On 17 November 2014 19:47, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> havent heard from the space, webcams down so not sure whats going on
> tonight, so shall give it a miss.
> was called Emyr to see if he was going... his brake lights have failed on
> car, so you may/may not see him too.
> if Dr Tim is there...say HI TIM... to him for me.
>
> will try again.
>
> ps.
> Got the sensor kit for 23 from banggood so djd gets his points or whatever
> and some other stuff and then used ALi express for a couple of other things.
> it took me about an hour to finalise my order on banggood. order
> interface/address very clunky. wouldnt give me a county, no drop down and
> wouldnt let me carry on with order until I selected a county from the drop
> down it wouldnt show me! aaargh.
> and each refresh meant typing it all in again. oh joy.
>
> but done now.
>
> Also.
> My cousin just asked me to make a light for his microscope with variable
> power with a super bright LED>
> the flowery shaped affair.
>
> easy I said! you can use an arduino to play with it and use pwm to
> er...umm switch something...erm.
>
> then I did some googling.
> not that straight forward.
>
> curses.
>
> any suggestions on where to start? Id like to play with the arduino and
> program it...because ive got one. but not sure what to drive LED with.
>
> and then maybe use a pic or something. Im open to ideas.
>
> oh and with that sensor kit.
> I noticed that some of the sensors, have a rectangular blue pot with a
> tiny 8 leg chip on them.
> any idea what that chip would be about and would it make the sensors
> voltage specific, ie, 3.3 as opposed to 5v , Pi /arduino etc?
>
> ok cheerio
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 18 11:03:22 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:03:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] So is anyone in the hackspace tonight and
 whats going on there>
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hard to define what goes on there really

I enjoy going because it can be so random. Small crew last night which made
it more fun in a way. The desk ended up covered in all sorts of equipment
;-)



On 17 November 2014 18:50, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> ?
>
> thats it really
> :)
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From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:36:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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On 18/11/2014 10:43, Emyr Morris wrote:
> look at this Ian
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-LM2596-Buck-Regulator-Module-DC-DC-Step-Down-Adjustable-CC-CV-LED-Driver-/251510322961?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item3a8f2ef711
>
> it has adjustable current o/p so perfect for controlling a LED, you 
> could take off the potentiometer that controls the current and bring 
> it out to the surface of your enclosure to a pot with a nice big knob 
> on it ;-)
>
> oops!
>
> Emyr
>
> PS made it to the space in the end - and there starts a long story! LOL
>
> On 17 November 2014 19:47, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com 
> <mailto:sevendev.tk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     havent heard from the space, webcams down so not sure whats going
>     on tonight, so shall give it a miss.
>     was called Emyr to see if he was going... his brake lights have
>     failed on car, so you may/may not see him too.
>     if Dr Tim is there...say HI TIM... to him for me.
>
>     will try again.
>
>     ps.
>     Got the sensor kit for 23 from banggood so djd gets his points or
>     whatever and some other stuff and then used ALi express for a
>     couple of other things.
>     it took me about an hour to finalise my order on banggood. order
>     interface/address very clunky. wouldnt give me a county, no drop
>     down and wouldnt let me carry on with order until I selected a
>     county from the drop down it wouldnt show me! aaargh.
>     and each refresh meant typing it all in again. oh joy.
>
>     but done now.
>
>     Also.
>     My cousin just asked me to make a light for his microscope with
>     variable power with a super bright LED>
>     the flowery shaped affair.
>
>     easy I said! you can use an arduino to play with it and use pwm to
>     er...umm switch something...erm.
>
>     then I did some googling.
>     not that straight forward.
>
>     curses.
>
>     any suggestions on where to start? Id like to play with the
>     arduino and program it...because ive got one. but not sure what to
>     drive LED with.
>
>     and then maybe use a pic or something. Im open to ideas.
>
>     oh and with that sensor kit.
>     I noticed that some of the sensors, have a rectangular blue pot
>     with a tiny 8 leg chip on them.
>     any idea what that chip would be about and would it make the
>     sensors voltage specific, ie, 3.3 as opposed to 5v , Pi /arduino etc?
>
>     ok cheerio
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Cheers Emyr.
took your advice on that dc to dc.
got a couple :)
for me to play around with, one for home etc.

so still gonna build mine, but, Ill have one to also play with now, working.
after modding it, I the heat shall be off so I can get on with designing 
my own too :)

going to start setting up an etching thing for circuit boards etc too.
but need to move stuff around to make room. read...lots....of........stuff.
frick.

anyone have advice on the old etching thing? quantities of ferous 
whateer it was? sourcing it etc.
ive got a uv lamp box with timer too, so dont know if I shoudl get the 
UV clad stuff  could be handy :)

I just used to had draw before with an etch resisit pen.
results were...umm....primitive :)

ok tata

oh ps, my aliexpress and bangood orders have been processed and sent!
wow.
hello china!
oh and my blown up uni pc has....healed! it now runs. random. I checked 
it late last night
Proteus and Ares on Windows and other programming things from uni days
and

SuSe Linux...being an arse and not booting correctly... no proper 
xwindows...when it does then boot........
screen flickers off every so many seconds.
never had any luck with that distro on that machine and have stuck to it.
maybe its ubuntu o clock.
but... I think it did play music out of the box.
I liked that :)
or maybe not standard repo downloads, cant remember.
ok
its attic o clock for me, jsut got the lights in, and extension lead. 
lets go have a look!
:)
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From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
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crap.... could have saved quite a bit if Id got that version

sigh.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CC-CV-LED-Driver-New-DC-DC-LM2596-Step-down-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-1PC/400715328820?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27827%26meid%3D6ea0f5571b364aa7be14b9e7e0edd98d%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D11436%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251510322961&rt=nc


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 22:55:35 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:55:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
In-Reply-To: <546BCA96.2020707@gmail.com>
References: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7Mdyw0_ShRrZhwNHzg6Tc=9sSki+0s9jN0U=xMTsVz0jQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<546BC9D7.6050701@gmail.com> <546BCA96.2020707@gmail.com>
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On 18/11/2014 22:39, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> crap.... could have saved quite a bit if Id got that version
>
> sigh.
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CC-CV-LED-Driver-New-DC-DC-LM2596-Step-down-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-1PC/400715328820?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27827%26meid%3D6ea0f5571b364aa7be14b9e7e0edd98d%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D11436%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251510322961&rt=nc 
>
oh! with a voltmeter..for 2 quid!! and no postage.
holy cow.... how?
HOW!!>?


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 23:33:28 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:33:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LED Insanity...
Message-ID: <546BD748.60507@gmail.com>

Sweet jesus....
3w, LED 100 for $19

50 watt... 60WATT.... holy (soon to be leaking from your circuit 
boards..) smoke!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sure-display/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Nov 19 00:13:30 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:13:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
In-Reply-To: <546BCE67.90702@gmail.com>
References: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
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On 18/11/2014 22:55, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> On 18/11/2014 22:39, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
>> crap.... could have saved quite a bit if Id got that version
>>
>> sigh.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CC-CV-LED-Driver-New-DC-DC-LM2596-Step-down-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-1PC/400715328820?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27827%26meid%3D6ea0f5571b364aa7be14b9e7e0edd98d%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D11436%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251510322961&rt=nc 
>>
> oh! with a voltmeter..for 2 quid!! and no postage.
> holy cow.... how?
> HOW!!>?
ah no problems :)
I cancelled and got a refund :) super


From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov 19 00:17:44 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:17:44 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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References: <546A50EF.8050607@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7Mdyw0_ShRrZhwNHzg6Tc=9sSki+0s9jN0U=xMTsVz0jQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<546BC9D7.6050701@gmail.com> <546BCA96.2020707@gmail.com>
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Worth looking round. Voltmeter versions are fab

On Tuesday, 18 November 2014, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 18/11/2014 22:39, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
>
>> crap.... could have saved quite a bit if Id got that version
>>
>> sigh.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CC-CV-LED-Driver-New-DC-DC-
>> LM2596-Step-down-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-1PC/
>> 400715328820?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%
>> 3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27827%26meid%
>> 3D6ea0f5571b364aa7be14b9e7e0edd98d%26pid%3D100005%26prg%
>> 3D11436%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251510322961&rt=nc
>>
> oh! with a voltmeter..for 2 quid!! and no postage.
> holy cow.... how?
> HOW!!>?
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Nov 19 00:50:03 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:50:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ok wont be in.
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ah!
im so out of date/so much forgotten, thimgs moved on so much, i need an 
a-z crash course in electronis... now, where to begin?
well , this instructables site, the fritzing thing and nagging you lot 
is something.

I shall endevour to find an fun way to do it and use a computer to do 
all the maths, and try and remember just a smattering of theory and do 
some stuff for fun.
I guess the alternative/off grid thing may be a way forward as ive lived 
like that for decades in vans etc and lots of people i know still do and 
.... consumer electronics is JUST starting to catch up with them!

low power communication devices (read rasp pi and internet etc) 
wireless, 3g tablets and at my end.
these bonkers mentalist hi power LEDS etc for different lighting, power 
storage options and controllers yadda yadda :)

and general wierdness ie

rinky dink, mobile, cycle powered disco
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nickkaye/9366153784/

glastonbury festival.
I used to run the
http://woodenbooks.com bookstall next to them :)


From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov 19 14:41:50 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:41:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter pledge fund
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Oo5-SZtmwFZ7Y5P0KGQ+paToduCxKNQH-qOV+Bd=yLjw@mail.gmail.com>

I see the momentum for the Laser Cutter pledge fund has stalled a little

In an effort to move it on I have doubled my pledge ;-)

dig deep guys! We can do it!

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From brian at hoskins.eu  Thu Nov 20 15:42:54 2014
From: brian at hoskins.eu (Brian J Hoskins)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:42:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter pledge fund
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I thought I'd match your pledge but I couldn't work out which user was
you.  Anyway I don't have access to a laser cutter and I'd be very
interested to get access to one so I chipped in.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I see the momentum for the Laser Cutter pledge fund has stalled a little
>
> In an effort to move it on I have doubled my pledge ;-)
>
> dig deep guys! We can do it!
>
> Emyr
>
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 20 17:59:46 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:59:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter pledge fund
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Ha! Sorry. I might be down as preseli!

Thank you!

On Thursday, November 20, 2014, Brian J Hoskins <brian at hoskins.eu> wrote:

> I thought I'd match your pledge but I couldn't work out which user was
> you.  Anyway I don't have access to a laser cutter and I'd be very
> interested to get access to one so I chipped in.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I see the momentum for the Laser Cutter pledge fund has stalled a little
>>
>> In an effort to move it on I have doubled my pledge ;-)
>>
>> dig deep guys! We can do it!
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 11:26:05 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 11:26:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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http://hackaday.com/2014/11/18/hackerspace-tours-muccc/

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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Nov 21 12:09:40 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:09:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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Yup thats what im hoping for, everything is still so 'Formal' for want of a
better word.

Cant wait until I walk in and overhear
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg

G

2014-11-21 11:26 GMT+00:00 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>:

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 21 12:41:39 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:41:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 12:09 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> Yup thats what im hoping for, everything is still so 'Formal' for want
> of a better word.
> 
> 
> Cant wait until I walk in and
> overhear http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg
> 

I too wish things were more informal and free-wheeling, and i can't
quite decide whats holding us back in that repect

is it the lack of space? that so much has to be constantly tidied away
in order to move around.

I think pretty much all the regulars now have a key, so it shouldn't be
that ?

Although i seem to recall reading reviews of some other UK hackspaces
and being surprised that the majority of activity seemed to centre
around their open nights.





From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 13:08:08 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:08:08 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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ummm .... feedback?

formal?
yes.

one of the reasons Im not there much.

tea in a draw...a specific draw.....
key fob access....alarms with ?40 fines if they go off, balconies which 
were open, I was then told I wanst allowed to sit on, even though I 
couldnt get into the space I was allowed in, was paying for access to, 
but...

if I did miraculously get let in by the people downstairs, just as I was 
getting into hte flow of something, I suddenly had to come a cropper and 
run off to find one of them to lock up the room after me or I couldnt 
leave! or would have to leave the room unlocked. Im sure that would have 
been popular.

set dates and times, for workshops , which are quite often cancelled,
which is good when on, excellent in fact, but sad when cancelled.
so that just left the *informal* drop in 24 hr access thing....which 
didnt happen for myself.
could never get in, so back to formal tiny space events..which were 
often cancalled.
So I was left wondering what I was paying for?

talk of RFID tags for logging in and logging out of fridges, tools, 
cutters, printers.... wtf?
no thanks!

Procedures are one thing, especially when running a tight ship in a 
small space,
but it is somewhat claustrophobic being there.

tiny space, and all basically having to do what one particular person 
thinks they should all be doing on a particular day and time as there is 
no room for anyone else to do their own thing.

even the social nights.
you either all ordered food together....or didnt...and sat there 
awkwardly....

bummer.
especially if skint.

so!
being positive, thats my input. you can tell me to go whistle as I no 
longer pay subscriptions etc, but its a great idea you got there,
but, I think you may find that the nature of the space iteself dictates 
the need for a dictatorial control regime.
just for it to work with 24 members or whatever in a postage stamp size 
room.
with limited access.... behind big metal gates....up umpteen 
floors......via a lift........

its the nature of the beast.
that place was never meant to be free flowing.

before you even got in there.

just my feedback :)

let the hating commence........

ps. good luck with it.
I still find it inspiring.

Im just waiting to see what comes next.
and i really should bother my arse to get to the socials a bit more maybe.
...maybe next monday.....ooooh you lucky lucky people


From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 13:42:16 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:42:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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I for one think the space is awesome - I am so pleased it is up and running
and dead pleased to be a member of it.

I look at the Hackaday features of other hacker / maker spaces and think
"Yes, one day our space will be great too!"

It IS still early days, hats off to everybody that has worked really hard
to get things this far. Our resources are still limited, and the room
small, but with more members paying their dues every month we will be able
to afford the rent on a bigger room, and the kit can be left set up and
working.

I still want to see workbenches where things like power supplies, scopes,
function generators, soldering irons, fume extractors etc can be left set
up (but kept tidy). I would like to see a HAM 'shack' set up (I hear
whispers that the Swansea Amateur Radio Society may decide to wind up which
would be a shame), they meet on the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of the month, but
maybe not for much longer... Our current location on the roof could lend to
putting up a stealthy antenna outside ;-)

I would love to see more machines... seeing the CNC machine working on
Monday was an inspiration (shame it needs a little repair now but we should
get that done quickly - anybody got some 4-core 0.75mm cable? I've been
looking through my scrap boxes and have not found anything yet), things
like a pillar drill and a wood turning lathe maybe a metal lathe and
obviously the laser cutter would make a difference too.

As a paid up member having my own keyfob is brilliant, being able to pop in
at any time to work is great - Parking has been the single problem for me,
and continues to be the main reason I don't use the space as much as I
would like to. I frequently think that I could go and spend the day there
working instead of in my own office in Ponty, but then I realise that I
would have to spend a bucket on parking fees which puts me off. I can walk
to the office. Ian, if you want your keyfob, be a good boy and pay your
dues ;-)

I love that people get mad ideas, and that some of them may come to
fruition... It is nice to be involved in a project with like minded people
and I hope I can be involved for a long time. I have no idea where it will
go, what shape it will be in a few years from now, and that is what makes
it really exciting. I had followed and watched the birth from a distance,
and feared that it wasn't going to happen when everything went quiet. But
was very glad when it all took off! Well done chaps! It had gotten to the
point that I had started working out how to set up a community makerspace
here in Pontardawe! LOL

I am pleased that we are doing well on the membership front. And I hope we
can retain the membership which will allow us to grow and for the space we
are in to grow. I would urge anybody that has not set up a standing order /
repeat payment system yet to do so ASAP to reduce the burden of chasing and
reminding members for the payments. Our treasurer and chair are volunteers,
who do all the admin hard work, banking the money and paying the bills.
Don't forget they are not being paid to do this and that they have busy
lives.

Well done all!

Emyr

On 21 November 2014 12:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 12:09 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> > Yup thats what im hoping for, everything is still so 'Formal' for want
> > of a better word.
> >
> >
> > Cant wait until I walk in and
> > overhear
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg
> >
>
> I too wish things were more informal and free-wheeling, and i can't
> quite decide whats holding us back in that repect
>
> is it the lack of space? that so much has to be constantly tidied away
> in order to move around.
>
> I think pretty much all the regulars now have a key, so it shouldn't be
> that ?
>
> Although i seem to recall reading reviews of some other UK hackspaces
> and being surprised that the majority of activity seemed to centre
> around their open nights.
>
>
>
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 13:54:05 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:54:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] cnc repair
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just found that TLC had 4-core 1mm cable in Black.

I will get some tomorrow and bring it on Monday night. I have heatshrink in
the boot of my car ready

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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 13:54:14 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:54:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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Thanks Emyr, e-mails like yours make all the effort in finding a location for and setting up the hackspace worth it! :) A number of people worked hard to get it up and running.

I looked at the CCC Munich photos and don?t think we?re too far off:
- Specific area for drinks storage (with Club-Mate, yum! We need those in our fridge :)
- Well-organised tubs for electronic components (just like our setup)
- RepRap 3D printer (hey, we?ve got one too!)
- well-organised tools area (hey, we?ve got those too!)
- well-stocked library area (hey, we?ve got one too!)
- sewing machine (we need one!)
- key cutter (not sure why we?d need one!)
- warning/usage signs (hey, we?ve got those too!)
- arcade machine (there?s one on the second floor!)
- signs with flashing lights (hmm, we need more of those!)

If our membership increases, we should be able to afford a bigger and better space.

Cheers,
Gerrit

> On 21 Nov 2014, at 13:42, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
> I for one think the space is awesome - I am so pleased it is up and running and dead pleased to be a member of it.
> 
> I look at the Hackaday features of other hacker / maker spaces and think "Yes, one day our space will be great too!"
> 
> It IS still early days, hats off to everybody that has worked really hard to get things this far. Our resources are still limited, and the room small, but with more members paying their dues every month we will be able to afford the rent on a bigger room, and the kit can be left set up and working.
> 
> I still want to see workbenches where things like power supplies, scopes, function generators, soldering irons, fume extractors etc can be left set up (but kept tidy). I would like to see a HAM 'shack' set up (I hear whispers that the Swansea Amateur Radio Society may decide to wind up which would be a shame), they meet on the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of the month, but maybe not for much longer... Our current location on the roof could lend to putting up a stealthy antenna outside ;-)
> 
> I would love to see more machines... seeing the CNC machine working on Monday was an inspiration (shame it needs a little repair now but we should get that done quickly - anybody got some 4-core 0.75mm cable? I've been looking through my scrap boxes and have not found anything yet), things like a pillar drill and a wood turning lathe maybe a metal lathe and obviously the laser cutter would make a difference too.
> 
> As a paid up member having my own keyfob is brilliant, being able to pop in at any time to work is great - Parking has been the single problem for me, and continues to be the main reason I don't use the space as much as I would like to. I frequently think that I could go and spend the day there working instead of in my own office in Ponty, but then I realise that I would have to spend a bucket on parking fees which puts me off. I can walk to the office. Ian, if you want your keyfob, be a good boy and pay your dues ;-)
> 
> I love that people get mad ideas, and that some of them may come to fruition... It is nice to be involved in a project with like minded people and I hope I can be involved for a long time. I have no idea where it will go, what shape it will be in a few years from now, and that is what makes it really exciting. I had followed and watched the birth from a distance, and feared that it wasn't going to happen when everything went quiet. But was very glad when it all took off! Well done chaps! It had gotten to the point that I had started working out how to set up a community makerspace here in Pontardawe! LOL
> 
> I am pleased that we are doing well on the membership front. And I hope we can retain the membership which will allow us to grow and for the space we are in to grow. I would urge anybody that has not set up a standing order / repeat payment system yet to do so ASAP to reduce the burden of chasing and reminding members for the payments. Our treasurer and chair are volunteers, who do all the admin hard work, banking the money and paying the bills. Don't forget they are not being paid to do this and that they have busy lives.
> 
> Well done all!
> 
> Emyr
> 
> On 21 November 2014 12:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>> wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 12:09 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> > Yup thats what im hoping for, everything is still so 'Formal' for want
> > of a better word.
> >
> >
> > Cant wait until I walk in and
> > overhear http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg <http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg>
> >
> 
> I too wish things were more informal and free-wheeling, and i can't
> quite decide whats holding us back in that repect
> 
> is it the lack of space? that so much has to be constantly tidied away
> in order to move around.
> 
> I think pretty much all the regulars now have a key, so it shouldn't be
> that ?
> 
> Although i seem to recall reading reviews of some other UK hackspaces
> and being surprised that the majority of activity seemed to centre
> around their open nights.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
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> 
> 
> 
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From testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 13:51:11 2014
From: testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com (Pie)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:51:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night
Message-ID: <CAFcreVJ_UeX2o3MSNHK9_YX1uf+LVS-y4T5dgRSmn=Gitnv5oQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have 2 tickets booked for the Spark.io build night, but won?t be able to
make it, as I have ended up double booked with the Entrepreneurship Weekend
(we were awarded tickets by the university).

Hope someone else is able to make use of them,

Pierre
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 21 14:05:52 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:05:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 13:42 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:

> Our resources are still limited, and the room small, but with more
> members paying their dues every month we will be able to afford the
> rent on a bigger room, and the kit can be left set up and working.

We have been making enquiries about a bigger room, but as you say it
would need more membership income to pay for it.



> I still want to see workbenches where things like power supplies,
> scopes, function generators, soldering irons, fume extractors etc can
> be left set up (but kedy). 

I was discussing this with some of the guys the other day, wondering if
its time to reorganise the shelving a little now that we have the big
cupboard open. The corner with the book shelves and low chairs is rather
under-utilised at the moment, perhaps replacing it with a workbench area
would be better ?



> I would like to see a HAM 'shac' set up 
> (I hear whispers that the Swansea Amateur Radio Society may decide to
> wind up which would be a shame), they meet on the 1st and 3rd
> Thursdays of the month, but maybe not for much longer... Our current
> location on the roof could lend to putting up a stealthy antenna o

Or something that fits inside the roof-cupboard that has the skylight ?
thats where we would put the antennas for the lightning detector project
if/when we get around to it. Theres a fair amount of space in there, its
dry (but windy/cold) just not much room for people


> I would love to see more machines... seeing the CNC machine working on
> Monday was an inspiration (shame it needs a little repair now but we
> should get that done quickly - anybody got some 4-core 0.75mm cable? 

I feel we are close to this being a generally usable tool, apart from
the slight hiccough with the wiring, we have the control side sorted,
between me and tim we think we have some suitable toolchains working for
common jobs. and i have been slowly acquiring materials, various etching
and milling bits, blank PCBs, etc.

I have been wondering what materials we should buy in for people to
experiment and make things with, acrylic looks to be a nice material to
use, there are some ebay entries for 4-5kg boxes of offcuts for about
?20 region, any better suggestions ?






From paul at harwood-leon.com  Fri Nov 21 14:08:04 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:08:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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I would just like to second that?

Setting up communities is hard and take a lot of dedication and time, all of course unpaid.

As much as criticism is useful it can also be demoralising, so balance is always useful :)

I think you have all dome a terrific job so far and in as much as TechHub can help address some of the issues (access is a pain for us all in the building and is something you could all help resolve btw :) ). It can be hard to listen to complaints, but it is always better to face them and deal with them than ignore them in any way. The entire building is very new and needs lots of feedback, good and bad.

I have 3 x raspberry Pi on order for some digital signage and some monitors to put up. Perhaps we can organise a ?ideas for techhub access system? workshop? Esp. as we now have some hardware to base it upon. 

I am thinking of buying a thumb scanning system which would unlock doors - but not set alarms. What are your thoughts on that? Only fob holders would be able to unset/set alarms.

Parking is a vey bad situation here. I would encourage everyone to utilise park tawe for a short stop (<2 hours I think).

Cheers!

? Paul

> On 21 Nov 2014, at 13:54, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Emyr, e-mails like yours make all the effort in finding a location for and setting up the hackspace worth it! :) A number of people worked hard to get it up and running.
> 
> I looked at the CCC Munich photos and don?t think we?re too far off:
> - Specific area for drinks storage (with Club-Mate, yum! We need those in our fridge :)
> - Well-organised tubs for electronic components (just like our setup)
> - RepRap 3D printer (hey, we?ve got one too!)
> - well-organised tools area (hey, we?ve got those too!)
> - well-stocked library area (hey, we?ve got one too!)
> - sewing machine (we need one!)
> - key cutter (not sure why we?d need one!)
> - warning/usage signs (hey, we?ve got those too!)
> - arcade machine (there?s one on the second floor!)
> - signs with flashing lights (hmm, we need more of those!)
> 
> If our membership increases, we should be able to afford a bigger and better space.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
> 
>> On 21 Nov 2014, at 13:42, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com <mailto:em at preseli.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I for one think the space is awesome - I am so pleased it is up and running and dead pleased to be a member of it.
>> 
>> I look at the Hackaday features of other hacker / maker spaces and think "Yes, one day our space will be great too!"
>> 
>> It IS still early days, hats off to everybody that has worked really hard to get things this far. Our resources are still limited, and the room small, but with more members paying their dues every month we will be able to afford the rent on a bigger room, and the kit can be left set up and working.
>> 
>> I still want to see workbenches where things like power supplies, scopes, function generators, soldering irons, fume extractors etc can be left set up (but kept tidy). I would like to see a HAM 'shack' set up (I hear whispers that the Swansea Amateur Radio Society may decide to wind up which would be a shame), they meet on the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of the month, but maybe not for much longer... Our current location on the roof could lend to putting up a stealthy antenna outside ;-)
>> 
>> I would love to see more machines... seeing the CNC machine working on Monday was an inspiration (shame it needs a little repair now but we should get that done quickly - anybody got some 4-core 0.75mm cable? I've been looking through my scrap boxes and have not found anything yet), things like a pillar drill and a wood turning lathe maybe a metal lathe and obviously the laser cutter would make a difference too.
>> 
>> As a paid up member having my own keyfob is brilliant, being able to pop in at any time to work is great - Parking has been the single problem for me, and continues to be the main reason I don't use the space as much as I would like to. I frequently think that I could go and spend the day there working instead of in my own office in Ponty, but then I realise that I would have to spend a bucket on parking fees which puts me off. I can walk to the office. Ian, if you want your keyfob, be a good boy and pay your dues ;-)
>> 
>> I love that people get mad ideas, and that some of them may come to fruition... It is nice to be involved in a project with like minded people and I hope I can be involved for a long time. I have no idea where it will go, what shape it will be in a few years from now, and that is what makes it really exciting. I had followed and watched the birth from a distance, and feared that it wasn't going to happen when everything went quiet. But was very glad when it all took off! Well done chaps! It had gotten to the point that I had started working out how to set up a community makerspace here in Pontardawe! LOL
>> 
>> I am pleased that we are doing well on the membership front. And I hope we can retain the membership which will allow us to grow and for the space we are in to grow. I would urge anybody that has not set up a standing order / repeat payment system yet to do so ASAP to reduce the burden of chasing and reminding members for the payments. Our treasurer and chair are volunteers, who do all the admin hard work, banking the money and paying the bills. Don't forget they are not being paid to do this and that they have busy lives.
>> 
>> Well done all!
>> 
>> Emyr
>> 
>> On 21 November 2014 12:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 12:09 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>> > Yup thats what im hoping for, everything is still so 'Formal' for want
>> > of a better word.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cant wait until I walk in and
>> > overhear http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg <http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg>
>> >
>> 
>> I too wish things were more informal and free-wheeling, and i can't
>> quite decide whats holding us back in that repect
>> 
>> is it the lack of space? that so much has to be constantly tidied away
>> in order to move around.
>> 
>> I think pretty much all the regulars now have a key, so it shouldn't be
>> that ?
>> 
>> Although i seem to recall reading reviews of some other UK hackspaces
>> and being surprised that the majority of activity seemed to centre
>> around their open nights.
>> 
>> 
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 14:11:06 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:11:06 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] cnc repair
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS4306613D085098499FC888AC6770@phx.gbl>

I'll setup my standing order tonight, and get an arrange in place for making up my arrears.

Emry,  how long does that 4 core need to be? I have an endless supply of 5 core in roughly 20 cm lengths. Also got an endless supply of flat 8 core in 2 meter lengths. The individual core come out easy enough.

I would also love to see a small workbench/solder station ready to go in the little cubby hole with the window.

I hope to call by tomorrow morning or no day night at least.


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just found that TLC had 4-core 1mm cable in Black.

I will get some tomorrow and bring it on Monday night. I have heatshrink in
the boot of my car ready

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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 14:17:11 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:17:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] cnc repair
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I was going to get about 5m so we have some left over in case of a need for
other future repairs.

I did pick up some 7 core the other day but it was too bulky... The piece I
got was probably too short as well at just 1m

This goes to the Z motor on the CNC which travels side to side and back and
fore down the bed, so it needs to be thin and flexible - I am scared that
the 4-core in TLC may be a tad too thick and too heavy for the job.

It might be good to have a cable bin with off cuts in it at some point in
the future...

Emyr

On 21 November 2014 14:11, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I'll setup my standing order tonight, and get an arrange in place for
> making up my arrears.
>
>  Emry,  how long does that 4 core need to be? I have an endless supply of
> 5 core in roughly 20 cm lengths. Also got an endless supply of flat 8 core
> in 2 meter lengths. The individual core come out easy enough.
>
>  I would also love to see a small workbench/solder station ready to go in
> the little cubby hole with the window.
>
>  I hope to call by tomorrow morning or no day night at least.
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris
> Date:21/11/2014 13:55 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] cnc repair
>
>   just found that TLC had 4-core 1mm cable in Black.
>
>  I will get some tomorrow and bring it on Monday night. I have heatshrink
> in the boot of my car ready
>
>  Emyr
>
>
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Nov 21 14:19:07 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:19:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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I agree with a lot of this, so my only 'hating' would be re the rfid, every hackspace I have seen collect data about the spaces and who use them, following the philosophy of, if you CAN measure it, then measure it, the upload it on the internet, then add lasers..., 

The space is waaay to small, and I'm not allowed to bring in any of my big tools, but from what I have heard and seen this is what space we can afford that is located centrally (which is an absolute PITA fir me because I travel in with the car, a light industrial unit on the outskirts would suit me much better, but this is what we have, and I enjoy using the space and meeting people there).

Like you I also stayed away for a long time while it was based in the uni, because it felt like a uni-side project but at least we now have a space, even if its not great.  Other things I want to see is art on the walls, such as a 4' Swansea hackspace light up, led covered, kinetic logo.  A laser grid security system would also look amazing, but these things take time and effort to build, impliment, and most likely not what other members want - that's why conversations like this are good, as it helps to carve out a direction.

G

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ian Bullfrog" <sevendev.tk at gmail.com>
Sent: ?21/?11/?2014 13:03
To: "Swansea Hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this

ummm .... feedback?

formal?
yes.

one of the reasons Im not there much.

tea in a draw...a specific draw.....
key fob access....alarms with ?40 fines if they go off, balconies which 
were open, I was then told I wanst allowed to sit on, even though I 
couldnt get into the space I was allowed in, was paying for access to, 
but...

if I did miraculously get let in by the people downstairs, just as I was 
getting into hte flow of something, I suddenly had to come a cropper and 
run off to find one of them to lock up the room after me or I couldnt 
leave! or would have to leave the room unlocked. Im sure that would have 
been popular.

set dates and times, for workshops , which are quite often cancelled,
which is good when on, excellent in fact, but sad when cancelled.
so that just left the *informal* drop in 24 hr access thing....which 
didnt happen for myself.
could never get in, so back to formal tiny space events..which were 
often cancalled.
So I was left wondering what I was paying for?

talk of RFID tags for logging in and logging out of fridges, tools, 
cutters, printers.... wtf?
no thanks!

Procedures are one thing, especially when running a tight ship in a 
small space,
but it is somewhat claustrophobic being there.

tiny space, and all basically having to do what one particular person 
thinks they should all be doing on a particular day and time as there is 
no room for anyone else to do their own thing.

even the social nights.
you either all ordered food together....or didnt...and sat there 
awkwardly....

bummer.
especially if skint.

so!
being positive, thats my input. you can tell me to go whistle as I no 
longer pay subscriptions etc, but its a great idea you got there,
but, I think you may find that the nature of the space iteself dictates 
the need for a dictatorial control regime.
just for it to work with 24 members or whatever in a postage stamp size 
room.
with limited access.... behind big metal gates....up umpteen 
floors......via a lift........

its the nature of the beast.
that place was never meant to be free flowing.

before you even got in there.

just my feedback :)

let the hating commence........

ps. good luck with it.
I still find it inspiring.

Im just waiting to see what comes next.
and i really should bother my arse to get to the socials a bit more maybe.
...maybe next monday.....ooooh you lucky lucky people
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 14:22:29 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:22:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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I parked on the strand several times now, but I have heard that now and
again the traffic wardens head down and ticket all the cars down there - It
is a 'zone' signposted as you enter the strand - it is a dedicated 'no
loading' zone - earlier signs state no parking circa 8am-6pm but my guess
is the later sign succeeds that one.

Park Tawe have been relaxed in recent years but I wouldn't want to chance
more than a couple hours. I struggle to park there if I have my laptop -
with my back I can not walk that far carrying any weight

On 21 November 2014 14:08, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> I would just like to second that?
>
> Setting up communities is hard and take a lot of dedication and time, all
> of course unpaid.
>
> As much as criticism is useful it can also be demoralising, so balance is
> always useful :)
>
> I think you have all dome a terrific job so far and in as much as TechHub
> can help address some of the issues (access is a pain for us all in the
> building and is something you could all help resolve btw :) ). It can be
> hard to listen to complaints, but it is always better to face them and deal
> with them than ignore them in any way. The entire building is very new and
> needs lots of feedback, good and bad.
>
> I have 3 x raspberry Pi on order for some digital signage and some
> monitors to put up. Perhaps we can organise a ?ideas for techhub access
> system? workshop? Esp. as we now have some hardware to base it upon.
>
> I am thinking of buying a thumb scanning system which would unlock doors -
> but not set alarms. What are your thoughts on that? Only fob holders would
> be able to unset/set alarms.
>
> Parking is a vey bad situation here. I would encourage everyone to utilise
> park tawe for a short stop (<2 hours I think).
>
> Cheers!
>
> ? Paul
>
> On 21 Nov 2014, at 13:54, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Emyr, e-mails like yours make all the effort in finding a location
> for and setting up the hackspace worth it! :) A number of people worked
> hard to get it up and running.
>
> I looked at the CCC Munich photos and don?t think we?re too far off:
> - Specific area for drinks storage (with Club-Mate, yum! We need those in
> our fridge :)
> - Well-organised tubs for electronic components (just like our setup)
> - RepRap 3D printer (hey, we?ve got one too!)
> - well-organised tools area (hey, we?ve got those too!)
> - well-stocked library area (hey, we?ve got one too!)
> - sewing machine (we need one!)
> - key cutter (not sure why we?d need one!)
> - warning/usage signs (hey, we?ve got those too!)
> - arcade machine (there?s one on the second floor!)
> - signs with flashing lights (hmm, we need more of those!)
>
> If our membership increases, we should be able to afford a bigger and
> better space.
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
> On 21 Nov 2014, at 13:42, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> I for one think the space is awesome - I am so pleased it is up and
> running and dead pleased to be a member of it.
>
> I look at the Hackaday features of other hacker / maker spaces and think
> "Yes, one day our space will be great too!"
>
> It IS still early days, hats off to everybody that has worked really hard
> to get things this far. Our resources are still limited, and the room
> small, but with more members paying their dues every month we will be able
> to afford the rent on a bigger room, and the kit can be left set up and
> working.
>
> I still want to see workbenches where things like power supplies, scopes,
> function generators, soldering irons, fume extractors etc can be left set
> up (but kept tidy). I would like to see a HAM 'shack' set up (I hear
> whispers that the Swansea Amateur Radio Society may decide to wind up which
> would be a shame), they meet on the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of the month, but
> maybe not for much longer... Our current location on the roof could lend to
> putting up a stealthy antenna outside ;-)
>
> I would love to see more machines... seeing the CNC machine working on
> Monday was an inspiration (shame it needs a little repair now but we should
> get that done quickly - anybody got some 4-core 0.75mm cable? I've been
> looking through my scrap boxes and have not found anything yet), things
> like a pillar drill and a wood turning lathe maybe a metal lathe and
> obviously the laser cutter would make a difference too.
>
> As a paid up member having my own keyfob is brilliant, being able to pop
> in at any time to work is great - Parking has been the single problem for
> me, and continues to be the main reason I don't use the space as much as I
> would like to. I frequently think that I could go and spend the day there
> working instead of in my own office in Ponty, but then I realise that I
> would have to spend a bucket on parking fees which puts me off. I can walk
> to the office. Ian, if you want your keyfob, be a good boy and pay your
> dues ;-)
>
> I love that people get mad ideas, and that some of them may come to
> fruition... It is nice to be involved in a project with like minded people
> and I hope I can be involved for a long time. I have no idea where it will
> go, what shape it will be in a few years from now, and that is what makes
> it really exciting. I had followed and watched the birth from a distance,
> and feared that it wasn't going to happen when everything went quiet. But
> was very glad when it all took off! Well done chaps! It had gotten to the
> point that I had started working out how to set up a community makerspace
> here in Pontardawe! LOL
>
> I am pleased that we are doing well on the membership front. And I hope we
> can retain the membership which will allow us to grow and for the space we
> are in to grow. I would urge anybody that has not set up a standing order /
> repeat payment system yet to do so ASAP to reduce the burden of chasing and
> reminding members for the payments. Our treasurer and chair are volunteers,
> who do all the admin hard work, banking the money and paying the bills.
> Don't forget they are not being paid to do this and that they have busy
> lives.
>
> Well done all!
>
> Emyr
>
> On 21 November 2014 12:41, Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 12:09 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>> > Yup thats what im hoping for, everything is still so 'Formal' for want
>> > of a better word.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cant wait until I walk in and
>> > overhear
>> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6e9JnaEDmM/TFGS1wDqEeI/AAAAAAAAB9E/iKDWNGJrzGs/s1600/images_pinky_brain.jpg
>> >
>>
>> I too wish things were more informal and free-wheeling, and i can't
>> quite decide whats holding us back in that repect
>>
>> is it the lack of space? that so much has to be constantly tidied away
>> in order to move around.
>>
>> I think pretty much all the regulars now have a key, so it shouldn't be
>> that ?
>>
>> Although i seem to recall reading reviews of some other UK hackspaces
>> and being surprised that the majority of activity seemed to centre
>> around their open nights.
>>
>>
>>
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 14:25:00 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:25:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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Justin, the area with the seats seems to be a bag/coat dumping area so yes
a workbench there would be perfect!

My father has had man-flu for the best part of two weeks so I probably
won't see him after all this weekend to get some timber offcuts for the CNC
bed. Sorry.



On 21 November 2014 14:05, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 13:42 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> > Our resources are still limited, and the room small, but with more
> > members paying their dues every month we will be able to afford the
> > rent on a bigger room, and the kit can be left set up and working.
>
> We have been making enquiries about a bigger room, but as you say it
> would need more membership income to pay for it.
>
>
>
> > I still want to see workbenches where things like power supplies,
> > scopes, function generators, soldering irons, fume extractors etc can
> > be left set up (but kedy).
>
> I was discussing this with some of the guys the other day, wondering if
> its time to reorganise the shelving a little now that we have the big
> cupboard open. The corner with the book shelves and low chairs is rather
> under-utilised at the moment, perhaps replacing it with a workbench area
> would be better ?
>
>
>
> > I would like to see a HAM 'shac' set up
> > (I hear whispers that the Swansea Amateur Radio Society may decide to
> > wind up which would be a shame), they meet on the 1st and 3rd
> > Thursdays of the month, but maybe not for much longer... Our current
> > location on the roof could lend to putting up a stealthy antenna o
>
> Or something that fits inside the roof-cupboard that has the skylight ?
> thats where we would put the antennas for the lightning detector project
> if/when we get around to it. Theres a fair amount of space in there, its
> dry (but windy/cold) just not much room for people
>
>
> > I would love to see more machines... seeing the CNC machine working on
> > Monday was an inspiration (shame it needs a little repair now but we
> > should get that done quickly - anybody got some 4-core 0.75mm cable?
>
> I feel we are close to this being a generally usable tool, apart from
> the slight hiccough with the wiring, we have the control side sorted,
> between me and tim we think we have some suitable toolchains working for
> common jobs. and i have been slowly acquiring materials, various etching
> and milling bits, blank PCBs, etc.
>
> I have been wondering what materials we should buy in for people to
> experiment and make things with, acrylic looks to be a nice material to
> use, there are some ebay entries for 4-5kg boxes of offcuts for about
> ?20 region, any better suggestions ?
>
>
>
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 21 14:30:12 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:30:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 14:08 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:

> I have 3 x raspberry Pi on order for some digital signage and some
> monitors to put up. Perhaps we can organise a ?ideas for techhub
> access system? workshop? Esp. as we now have some hardware to base it
> upon. 
I'm sure we can, the signage project should be reasonably simple, and
fun to knock together.

> I am thinking of buying a thumb scanning system which would unlock
> doors - but not set alarms. What are your thoughts on that? Only fob
> holders would be able to unset/set alarms.
I know that you can get rewritable keyfobs for the frequency that the
alarm/door system uses, and that keyfob cloning devices are readily
available, which makes me wonder if its possible to have a computer
controlled device that appears as if it is a keyfob of a specific ID.

if you could, then your replacement door lock system could
electronically present a keyfob to the alarm system to disarm it.

no idea if such a circuit exists, perhaps someone else knows more ?

but as for a thumb/fingerprint scanner, the accuracy on those is not
great (i have played with them, and written fingerprint matching
systems) if your going to the trouble of installing an extra box then an
alternate rfid device that you control is perhaps easier.






From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 14:30:42 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:30:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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your data gathering is right - we need usage data for grant applications so
yes!

Let's get a Veterinarian in one Monday and implant a microchip into all the
members ;-)

Laser grid security - yes - sounds like a plan ;-) ;-) hehe

The idea of a out of town industrial unit again is good, but I fear that is
a while off. Units can be cheep to rent these days if we were prepared to
move out at short notice - landlords have to pay rates on unoccupied
buildings and an organisation such as ours might qualify for a rent rebate
- this is how a lot of these book recycling schemes manage, frequently
getting the landlord to pay for the leccy and water as it is so much
cheaper for them than paying the rates on an empty building.



On 21 November 2014 14:19, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with a lot of this, so my only 'hating' would be re the rfid,
> every hackspace I have seen collect data about the spaces and who use them,
> following the philosophy of, if you CAN measure it, then measure it, the
> upload it on the internet, then add lasers...,
>
> The space is waaay to small, and I'm not allowed to bring in any of my big
> tools, but from what I have heard and seen this is what space we can afford
> that is located centrally (which is an absolute PITA fir me because I
> travel in with the car, a light industrial unit on the outskirts would suit
> me much better, but this is what we have, and I enjoy using the space and
> meeting people there).
>
> Like you I also stayed away for a long time while it was based in the uni,
> because it felt like a uni-side project but at least we now have a space,
> even if its not great.  Other things I want to see is art on the walls,
> such as a 4' Swansea hackspace light up, led covered, kinetic logo.  A
> laser grid security system would also look amazing, but these things take
> time and effort to build, impliment, and most likely not what other members
> want - that's why conversations like this are good, as it helps to carve
> out a direction.
>
> G
> ------------------------------
> From: Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com>
> Sent: ?21/?11/?2014 13:03
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
>
> ummm .... feedback?
>
> formal?
> yes.
>
> one of the reasons Im not there much.
>
> tea in a draw...a specific draw.....
> key fob access....alarms with ?40 fines if they go off, balconies which
> were open, I was then told I wanst allowed to sit on, even though I
> couldnt get into the space I was allowed in, was paying for access to,
> but...
>
> if I did miraculously get let in by the people downstairs, just as I was
> getting into hte flow of something, I suddenly had to come a cropper and
> run off to find one of them to lock up the room after me or I couldnt
> leave! or would have to leave the room unlocked. Im sure that would have
> been popular.
>
> set dates and times, for workshops , which are quite often cancelled,
> which is good when on, excellent in fact, but sad when cancelled.
> so that just left the *informal* drop in 24 hr access thing....which
> didnt happen for myself.
> could never get in, so back to formal tiny space events..which were
> often cancalled.
> So I was left wondering what I was paying for?
>
> talk of RFID tags for logging in and logging out of fridges, tools,
> cutters, printers.... wtf?
> no thanks!
>
> Procedures are one thing, especially when running a tight ship in a
> small space,
> but it is somewhat claustrophobic being there.
>
> tiny space, and all basically having to do what one particular person
> thinks they should all be doing on a particular day and time as there is
> no room for anyone else to do their own thing.
>
> even the social nights.
> you either all ordered food together....or didnt...and sat there
> awkwardly....
>
> bummer.
> especially if skint.
>
> so!
> being positive, thats my input. you can tell me to go whistle as I no
> longer pay subscriptions etc, but its a great idea you got there,
> but, I think you may find that the nature of the space iteself dictates
> the need for a dictatorial control regime.
> just for it to work with 24 members or whatever in a postage stamp size
> room.
> with limited access.... behind big metal gates....up umpteen
> floors......via a lift........
>
> its the nature of the beast.
> that place was never meant to be free flowing.
>
> before you even got in there.
>
> just my feedback :)
>
> let the hating commence........
>
> ps. good luck with it.
> I still find it inspiring.
>
> Im just waiting to see what comes next.
> and i really should bother my arse to get to the socials a bit more maybe.
> ...maybe next monday.....ooooh you lucky lucky people
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 14:37:23 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:37:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] can I say one more thing?
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P_MLDwfwG5EMH0hoAoq_YHzEG2psuJ5s0taSLD1DG2LQ@mail.gmail.com>

Oh go on then...

this mailing list really makes this group

Have I told you I am a radio Ham? ;-)

I go to the Carmarthen ARS... they have no means of member communications,
and there is no way to follow up anything learnt at club or for the sharing
of knowledge.

For instance there was a show and tell last week, chap showed something,
then put it away, I couldn't hear what he said because he was one of these
mumblers (not sure how that works when he chatters on a radio) and then put
the bit of kit away in his bag before we could look at it at the end of the
presentation.

What he had looked interesting but I'm buggered if I can find out what it
was!
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 17:05:36 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:05:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night
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ah nice.
im on the wait list for a ticket


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 17:02:33 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:02:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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Dragon arts space was keen to get involved in the Whole hackspace idea.

they have B I G rooms (well, much bigger) and I.T. room full of 
computers that is hardly used,
its in town but on the outskirt (where the new uni accomodation is gonna be)
A CAR PARK
kitchen area
library
toilets,
all on one floor
disabled acces/ramp
.... what more?

maybe check them out if growing space required.
Polly the secretary is THE BOMB!!! for getting funding for things
she is constantly sourcing funding for all sorts.
brilliant
is positive pro everything.

she has contacted hacskpace, I mentioned it several times.
neither her nor me ever got a reply on the matter.

so not sure what is her take on it now as she is constantly moving the 
space forward.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode&q=The+Dragon+Arts+Centre&sll=51.634799,-3.941429&sspn=0.009629,0.020084&ie=UTF8&latlng=51629437,-3936035,8444639125837899552&ei=O5r_SNWVHZ3cogPIhYWKDw&cd=1

oooh look! a geeky map :)

even if you only wanted it to hold events.
im pretty sure its gonna be cheaper than your what your paying now



From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 17:04:30 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:04:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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and its bigger!
so the likes of this mentality doenst tie you into
We need MORE people for Bigger spaces as we must PAY more.

if your gonna get a central placed buidling in a tech centre, well, that 
smacks of the uni's digital technium et al headspace which is expensive 
and limiting...oh and likely to get asked to move on after a while
ooooh the cheek of it!
:)


From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 21 17:28:26 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:28:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night
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On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 17:05 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> ah nice.
> im on the wait list for a ticket

This first play with the spark cores is for members only.

They will make an appearance again, and will belong to the space,
but we felt that getting to play with the nice toys first should be a
perk for those that make the effort to pay their membership. 

Got to have some carrots to go with that stick ;)





From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 21 17:31:43 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:31:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 17:02 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:

> she has contacted hacskpace, I mentioned it several times.
> neither her nor me ever got a reply on the matter.

never had any emails to my address, the general contact address, or the
mailing list email addresses, and not had any voicemail left on the
phone number either.

so i dont know where these contacts have gone





From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 18:00:27 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:00:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night
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I'm still gutted that the West Glamorgan Youth service decided to hold
their 40th anniversary concert on that date without checking with me first
;-)

On Friday, November 21, 2014, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 17:05 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> > ah nice.
> > im on the wait list for a ticket
>
> This first play with the spark cores is for members only.
>
> They will make an appearance again, and will belong to the space,
> but we felt that getting to play with the nice toys first should be a
> perk for those that make the effort to pay their membership.
>
> Got to have some carrots to go with that stick ;)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>


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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 18:25:24 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:25:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night
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yeah good point.

think Im gonna arrange my own space though
as the hackspace is too expensive for my poor mates.

maybe we can franchise/

:D

poorhack.com :)



From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 18:52:48 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:52:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day our space will be as wild as this
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check for something from cyrenians, or polly stone maybe. if not already 
marked as spam and gone.
or possibley DAL
Dragon arts and learning and Ive mentioned the place several times in 
email and chat too, as Gerrit got back to me about it aswell and said he 
had been looking into it , and asking what the requirements were to use 
the space as it had now gone freelance.
could be a good add on or whatever.

and I should be actuallly getting hte downstairs flat in a while. not 
sure what to do with it.
one thing might be a poor mans lab.

Im stacked to the gunnels with OLD oscilloscopes, function generators, 
componants, computers.....etc etc test equipment galore.
just ask Dr Tim!

so one of the things may be converting part of into an electronics, fun 
workspace.
we shall see.
Ive also got a garage and cellar and am currenlty converting my attic 
for storage :)
watch this space...not that space  , this space :)


From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Nov 21 19:35:41 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:35:41 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night
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I you are going to try and start your own space, I wish you the very best of luck.  Having spent almost 3 years, lots of meetings with council etc, and being out of pocket by LOTS of money trying the same thing a bit west of here, I have to say that it is NOT an easy task.

The guys at the space have done an amazing job getting it started, and it can only get better from here.

On a side note, for 33p a day it would take me years to get access to 3d printers, pcb mills, electronics, hand tools, etc, etc and that doesn't include the electricity or heating that I used when I'm there.  That works out than less than the cost of a single cigarette ?  per day, or a drink, and a 10th of what it costs just for bus fare for me to get to the space, yet that is what it Swansea hackspace provides.

A quick visit to the hackspace website, equipment section has a pretty up to date list of what equipment ?10 a month gets you access to, as well as access to cool new toys like the spark.io or the sugru, as well as access to tutorials and workshops.  I get that some have been cancelled, but they are all provided by volunteers and things sometimes change, that is life.  But if you have a night booked at the space and the event needs to be cancelled, ig doesn't mean a total washout, you can still turn up and  Perhaps you could provide a workshop instead about something you are interested in.

Everyone doing anything for the space does so voluntarily, and the space only works if everyone helps out, that includes doing workshops etc, and with the varied interests of the members mean that nearly any topic is good for a workshop.

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From: "Ian Bullfrog" <sevendev.tk at gmail.com>
Sent: ?21/?11/?2014 18:17
To: "Swansea Hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io build night

yeah good point.

think Im gonna arrange my own space though
as the hackspace is too expensive for my poor mates.

maybe we can franchise/

:D

poorhack.com :)

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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 20:09:36 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:09:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
	:)
In-Reply-To: <545D6424.60301@gmail.com>
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Dr Tim showed me the one he bought. Lovely

I might ask Father Nick to get me one...

http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS05/

Nice one Ian

On 8 November 2014 00:30, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS05/
>
> thats it
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 21:50:31 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 21:50:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
 :)
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7P7BtfS89ewUCWTB0axjGUM1wMuDhDrQrJEXBLbed7iBg@mail.gmail.com>
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wow! Tim got one?

oh! now
THATS an accolade!

they should cite him as a reference!


From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 22:20:33 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 22:20:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
	:)
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http://export.farnell.com/bitscope/bitscope-micro/oscilloscope-2ch-20mhz-40msps/dp/2432906?ref=lookahead

works better, cheapest I've found so far !

: ))

Tim_1

On 21 November 2014 21:50, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> wow! Tim got one?
>
> oh! now
> THATS an accolade!
>
> they should cite him as a reference!
>
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 21 23:44:47 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 23:44:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Now this is 3d printing....
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NH3PoiibyiSswgqF_Ho7mjUu_ya+AQF7LYt-=1LYLHHw@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/shoppers-cardiff-can-now-3d-8146428

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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 00:24:06 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:24:06 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
 :)
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	<CAGAFX7P7BtfS89ewUCWTB0axjGUM1wMuDhDrQrJEXBLbed7iBg@mail.gmail.com>
	<546FB3A7.2030706@gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oNHJ43-HYCmBUM0TUWmdWMBCtbaCLPcX20Q92eKH3w2Uw@mail.gmail.com>
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handy link.
If I lived in estonia


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 00:26:48 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:26:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
 :)
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change the export bit of the url to cpc

http://cpc.farnell.com/bitscope/bitscope-micro/oscilloscope-usb-mixed-signal/dp/IN06959

voila


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 00:30:18 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:30:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tiny oscilloscope. works with raspberry pi
 :)
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	<CAAEY5oNHJ43-HYCmBUM0TUWmdWMBCtbaCLPcX20Q92eKH3w2Uw@mail.gmail.com>
	<546FD7A6.7050500@gmail.com> <546FD848.1040206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <546FD91A.2010001@gmail.com>

Ive sent on a request to my mates cpc contact for  a price for that


From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov 22 10:37:30 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:37:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC mill control
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PMMuA9f3iUTsEzO9DnCpp-uKunX+6s3-PgmKCcwstZmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tim,

what was the program you were using to control the X/Y/Z motors on the CNC
mill, have tinkered with the soldering iron and want to test to see if
things are better

tar

Em
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sat Nov 22 17:59:35 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:59:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.IO
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4TPWM0F89=o9B3TzD2CTL5mb8+jtsu3pVv8GMh_pSEXzg@mail.gmail.com>

Just like to say thanks to everyone at the space today, an let you all know
that i tried again with the spark, and this time things are working :)

Started development on an instructable now :)

must have been something about so many units trying to setup simultaneously

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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov 22 18:00:15 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:00:15 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PDORMbyAy7RoSL2bKv4FSscNECtb9sJ0-tD+btJOXy6g@mail.gmail.com>

How are you getting on?

I've managed to get a few little things working here, but the various
libraries etc I have tried to use have been a nightmare

compile errors galore :-(

I'm rushing a bit because we are about to head off to the concert, will
play a bit more tomorrow.

E

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Nov 22 18:43:23 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:43:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7PDORMbyAy7RoSL2bKv4FSscNECtb9sJ0-tD+btJOXy6g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1416681803.16275.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 18:00 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> How are you getting on?
> 
> 
> I've managed to get a few little things working here, but the various
> libraries etc I have tried to use have been a nightmare
> 
> 
> compile errors galore :-(
> 
> 
> I'm rushing a bit because we are about to head off to the concert,
> will play a bit more tomorrow.
> 
I got a lot of errors and warnings, until the build completed
successfully, at which point it hid all the problems and pretended they
didnt happen.

One thing i did find was that you needed to use the 'include in app'
button on the libraries page or you would just get loads of errors.





From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sat Nov 22 22:57:27 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:57:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swansea Hackspace IT
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4ROnsW=iFUR1zohV5=g0mt-p_auWQ2Wp9ux1TSjbo+bKw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey People

Can someone set up a database on the server and give me access so that I
can prototype a few apps (Or if not the sever, help me setup a PI with a
database accessable with a hackspace domain name) something like
database.swansea.hackspace.org.uk so that we can start building some
connected apps ;)


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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov 22 23:43:29 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:43:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark.io
In-Reply-To: <1416681803.16275.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <CAGAFX7PDORMbyAy7RoSL2bKv4FSscNECtb9sJ0-tD+btJOXy6g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1416681803.16275.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Pr_ebTWD_e3pFWR0vSEFV1dYuN+WoC38MmfBAmXms8Yg@mail.gmail.com>

it has been a nightmare - I wanted to try some of the community apps that
were not part of the 'spark' included libraries.

Seems the support for libs is fairly new from what they say in the forums.

I must say that they seem to respond well to community feedback and seem to
have added a lot of the features requested by users.

On 22 November 2014 at 18:43, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 18:00 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > How are you getting on?
> >
> >
> > I've managed to get a few little things working here, but the various
> > libraries etc I have tried to use have been a nightmare
> >
> >
> > compile errors galore :-(
> >
> >
> > I'm rushing a bit because we are about to head off to the concert,
> > will play a bit more tomorrow.
> >
> I got a lot of errors and warnings, until the build completed
> successfully, at which point it hid all the problems and pretended they
> didnt happen.
>
> One thing i did find was that you needed to use the 'include in app'
> button on the libraries page or you would just get loads of errors.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sun Nov 23 00:08:40 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:08:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swansea Hackspace IT
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4ROnsW=iFUR1zohV5=g0mt-p_auWQ2Wp9ux1TSjbo+bKw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1416701320.17792.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 22:57 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> Hey People
> 
> 
> Can someone set up a database on the server and give me access so that
> I can prototype a few apps (Or if not the sever, help me setup a PI
> with a database accessable with a hackspace domain name) something
> like database.swansea.hackspace.org.uk so that we can start building
> some connected apps ;)

I can perhaps do you a web hosting account, so you can write
php/perl/python and talk to a database on that system.

but i am weary of making a mysql or postgres server directly accessible
from the outside world, it will be constantly attacked.





From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Sun Nov 23 00:48:38 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:48:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swansea Hackspace IT
In-Reply-To: <1416701320.17792.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <CAJqsN4ROnsW=iFUR1zohV5=g0mt-p_auWQ2Wp9ux1TSjbo+bKw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1416701320.17792.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <9C02DB41-0418-4884-84EF-2CF00AB89A87@googlemail.com>

Hi justin

Anything would be a start so whatever you think, want to start writing some logging code and mabey start simple with something like keeping tabs on the temp in the space.

Best Regards

Graham Owens

> On 23 Nov 2014, at 00:08, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 22:57 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>> Hey People
>> 
>> 
>> Can someone set up a database on the server and give me access so that
>> I can prototype a few apps (Or if not the sever, help me setup a PI
>> with a database accessable with a hackspace domain name) something
>> like database.swansea.hackspace.org.uk so that we can start building
>> some connected apps ;)
> 
> I can perhaps do you a web hosting account, so you can write
> php/perl/python and talk to a database on that system.
> 
> but i am weary of making a mysql or postgres server directly accessible
> from the outside world, it will be constantly attacked.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace


From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Sun Nov 23 15:21:03 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:21:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Doing Instructibles
Message-ID: <5471FB5F.9010100@aurinia.co.uk>

How do you ensure that an instructible is counted as one done by Swansea 
Hackspace?


From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sun Nov 23 15:53:29 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:53:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Doing Instructibles
In-Reply-To: <5471FB5F.9010100@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <5471FB5F.9010100@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20141123155329.7228966c@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:21:03 +0000
Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

> How do you ensure that an instructible is counted as one done by
> Swansea Hackspace?

There's a google form to be completed by the deadline (in the case
of the Spark this is 31st December) with links to where the project is
hosted, so you can use your Hackspace members page, or the
Instructables.com site itself (I'd recommend getting an account*), or
even Somewhere Else.

* there's additional competitions and Makerspace features for 'groups',
  if you have an Instructables account we can count you as a member of
  the 'group', IIRC we need 10 folk min. to count as a 'group'.

HTH


From em at preseli.com  Sun Nov 23 18:04:32 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:04:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Doing Instructibles
In-Reply-To: <20141123155329.7228966c@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <5471FB5F.9010100@aurinia.co.uk>
	<20141123155329.7228966c@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7N9BwjT-gvy8SDc_NTPddy5bLnPo6rhM7GLnghJ0HNuLQ@mail.gmail.com>

IMHO tagging the instructable will probably help to a degree

On 23 November 2014 at 15:53, Sharon Mitchell <
sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:21:03 +0000
> Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > How do you ensure that an instructible is counted as one done by
> > Swansea Hackspace?
>
> There's a google form to be completed by the deadline (in the case
> of the Spark this is 31st December) with links to where the project is
> hosted, so you can use your Hackspace members page, or the
> Instructables.com site itself (I'd recommend getting an account*), or
> even Somewhere Else.
>
> * there's additional competitions and Makerspace features for 'groups',
>   if you have an Instructables account we can count you as a member of
>   the 'group', IIRC we need 10 folk min. to count as a 'group'.
>
> HTH
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 24 16:46:27 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:46:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Unable to make it tonight
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4Q5Wxx5hiNxFiPZJbK5WdMpwZ229j7Up0MO8EMPpH7UOg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Will be unable to make it in tomight as I have a flat tyre, by the time I
get it fixed, and get to swansea, it would be time to collect my wife from
work :(

Will catch up with you all soon.

G
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 24 19:31:03 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:31:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Unable to make it tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4Q5Wxx5hiNxFiPZJbK5WdMpwZ229j7Up0MO8EMPpH7UOg@mail.gmail.com>
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bad luck! Can't she get the bus ;-)

kidding!


Do you remember what the connectors are on the CNC stepper motors? I'm
going to look up CPC for 4-core cable, was going to get a pack of
connectors as well - I was going to get 10m of cale in case we need to
rewire the whole thing

On 24 November 2014 at 16:46, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Will be unable to make it in tomight as I have a flat tyre, by the time I
> get it fixed, and get to swansea, it would be time to collect my wife from
> work :(
>
> Will catch up with you all soon.
>
> G
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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>


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Nov 24 23:15:31 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:15:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
Message-ID: <1416870931.25827.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

https://plus.google.com/photos/110493364259902021942/albums/6085412355718767793

Here are some photos of our first (mostly) successful production of a
PCB using the CNC Mill!

Huge thanks to all those that have contributed to getting it this far.

For those interested the tool chain is Fritzing, FlatCAM, Universal
G-Code Controller, Grbl 0.9, and a YooCNC 3020.

under future jobs, and to do some experiments with clamping and securing
the copper clad board.



From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 24 23:34:29 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:34:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
Message-ID: <rugbwwbgsfc9tuwk6uan0ohs.1416871962525@email.android.com>

Well done guys, glad you got it all sorted. ?Its a nice cut you got from it. ?Was this your first cut or did you have a couple of attempts getting the z height correct?

G


Sent from Samsung Mobile

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From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> 
Date: 24/11/2014  23:15  (GMT+00:00) 
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk 
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill 
 
https://plus.google.com/photos/110493364259902021942/albums/6085412355718767793

Here are some photos of our first (mostly) successful production of a
PCB using the CNC Mill!

Huge thanks to all those that have contributed to getting it this far.

For those interested the tool chain is Fritzing, FlatCAM, Universal
G-Code Controller, Grbl 0.9, and a YooCNC 3020.

under future jobs, and to do some experiments with clamping and securing
the copper clad board.

_______________________________________________
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 24 23:38:04 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:38:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Unable to make it tonight
Message-ID: <g35k4hp99mipf52yxl85yoa4.1416872236593@email.android.com>

Hi Emyr, im not sure what the connector is mate. Sorry.

G


Sent from Samsung Mobile

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From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> 
Date: 24/11/2014  19:31  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> 
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Unable to make it tonight 
 
bad luck! Can't she get the bus ;-)

kidding!


Do you remember what the connectors are on the CNC stepper motors? I'm going to look up CPC for 4-core cable, was going to get a pack of connectors as well - I was going to get 10m of cale in case we need to rewire the whole thing

On 24 November 2014 at 16:46, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi All,

Will be unable to make it in tomight as I have a flat tyre, by the time I get it fixed, and get to swansea, it would be time to collect my wife from work :(

Will catch up with you all soon.

G

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Nov 24 23:43:13 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:43:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
In-Reply-To: <rugbwwbgsfc9tuwk6uan0ohs.1416871962525@email.android.com>
References: <rugbwwbgsfc9tuwk6uan0ohs.1416871962525@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1416872593.25827.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 23:34 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> Well done guys, glad you got it all sorted.  Its a nice cut you got
> from it.  Was this your first cut or did you have a couple of attempts
> getting the z height correct?

The board wasnt terribly flat/level, so our first depth only worked in
some places, so we ran it again a little deeper and faster.

Lots of trial and error, many lessons learnt.

one lesson was that a 0.9mm drill bit will obliterate standard/small
round pads that arent connected to a track, so i have a bit more
tweaking to do in the pcb layout or the isolation routing 




From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 00:37:52 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:37:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
In-Reply-To: <1416872593.25827.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <rugbwwbgsfc9tuwk6uan0ohs.1416871962525@email.android.com>
	<1416872593.25827.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOGt8+WV-XZapP1CKFs2BF5+YZi8AQjRTMxwGuZtx8Xfg@mail.gmail.com>

Mega Brilliant, congratulations to all involved !

:  )))))

Tim_1

On 24 November 2014 at 23:43, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 23:34 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> > Well done guys, glad you got it all sorted.  Its a nice cut you got
> > from it.  Was this your first cut or did you have a couple of attempts
> > getting the z height correct?
>
> The board wasnt terribly flat/level, so our first depth only worked in
> some places, so we ran it again a little deeper and faster.
>
> Lots of trial and error, many lessons learnt.
>
> one lesson was that a 0.9mm drill bit will obliterate standard/small
> round pads that arent connected to a track, so i have a bit more
> tweaking to do in the pcb layout or the isolation routing
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 25 01:53:29 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 01:53:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Unable to make it tonight
In-Reply-To: <g35k4hp99mipf52yxl85yoa4.1416872236593@email.android.com>
References: <g35k4hp99mipf52yxl85yoa4.1416872236593@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MzKGr5bH=ChAC2V+ZQ01uESqBhnkv4yyt9GYVN1K7pOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, I might just get a bag of 4-way connectors in that case

On Monday, 24 November 2014, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Emyr, im not sure what the connector is mate. Sorry.
>
> G
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>>
> Date: 24/11/2014 19:31 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Unable to make it tonight
>
>
> bad luck! Can't she get the bus ;-)
>
> kidding!
>
>
> Do you remember what the connectors are on the CNC stepper motors? I'm
> going to look up CPC for 4-core cable, was going to get a pack of
> connectors as well - I was going to get 10m of cale in case we need to
> rewire the whole thing
>
> On 24 November 2014 at 16:46, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grahamowensuk at googlemail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Will be unable to make it in tomight as I have a flat tyre, by the time I
>> get it fixed, and get to swansea, it would be time to collect my wife from
>> work :(
>>
>> Will catch up with you all soon.
>>
>> G
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 06:27:53 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:27:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oOGt8+WV-XZapP1CKFs2BF5+YZi8AQjRTMxwGuZtx8Xfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <rugbwwbgsfc9tuwk6uan0ohs.1416871962525@email.android.com>
	<1416872593.25827.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oOGt8+WV-XZapP1CKFs2BF5+YZi8AQjRTMxwGuZtx8Xfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_BsDpuo=1rgJyTSkeYwJRE9Ng_L=8=tnmA874cVv+pPA@mail.gmail.com>

Very good results. ..
Can you use eagle files? ???

Cheers Ceri
On 25 Nov 2014 00:38, "Tim Moore" <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mega Brilliant, congratulations to all involved !
>
> :  )))))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 24 November 2014 at 23:43, Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 23:34 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
>> > Well done guys, glad you got it all sorted.  Its a nice cut you got
>> > from it.  Was this your first cut or did you have a couple of attempts
>> > getting the z height correct?
>>
>> The board wasnt terribly flat/level, so our first depth only worked in
>> some places, so we ran it again a little deeper and faster.
>>
>> Lots of trial and error, many lessons learnt.
>>
>> one lesson was that a 0.9mm drill bit will obliterate standard/small
>> round pads that arent connected to a track, so i have a bit more
>> tweaking to do in the pcb layout or the isolation routing
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Nov 25 09:26:16 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:26:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_BsDpuo=1rgJyTSkeYwJRE9Ng_L=8=tnmA874cVv+pPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <rugbwwbgsfc9tuwk6uan0ohs.1416871962525@email.android.com>
	<1416872593.25827.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAAEY5oOGt8+WV-XZapP1CKFs2BF5+YZi8AQjRTMxwGuZtx8Xfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_BsDpuo=1rgJyTSkeYwJRE9Ng_L=8=tnmA874cVv+pPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1416907576.29409.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 06:27 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> Very good results. ..
> Can you use eagle files? ???

Replace Fritzing in the toolchain with anything which outputs standard
gerber files and excellon drill files, which should be everything.

I used fritzing in this case as it was a simple tool and already had
library items for an arduino shield and db25 connector



From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Nov 25 09:41:45 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:41:45 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC connectors
Message-ID: <1416908505.29409.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>


> Do you remember what the connectors are on the CNC stepper motors? I'm
> going to look up CPC for 4-core cable, was going to get a pack of
> connectors as well - I was going to get 10m of cale in case we need to
> rewire the whole thing

I should have taken some close up photos of the connector,
but from memory it looked a bit like a Molex Mini-Fit Jr. series

then again theres a lot of similar connectors, and without a closeup to
check the details a guess doesnt mean much



From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 25 10:47:07 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:47:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] PCB made on CNC Mill
In-Reply-To: <1416870931.25827.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1416870931.25827.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PSZQpzO3uYpxs7+=FMNscKLht_H9C11kF-dOWG3UA=Yg@mail.gmail.com>

a huge 'well done' to all involved!

we should have taken a good look at it under the magnifier to see how deep
the cuts had gone - the blade is tapered and the deeper it goes the wider
the cut between the tracks - and possibly why the pads became smaller than
intended - and the isolated ones probably became more unstable as a result.

All up it was a brilliant first attempt so well done and thank you to all
who were involved!

absolutely brilliant!

Em

On 24 November 2014 at 23:15, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/110493364259902021942/albums/6085412355718767793
>
> Here are some photos of our first (mostly) successful production of a
> PCB using the CNC Mill!
>
> Huge thanks to all those that have contributed to getting it this far.
>
> For those interested the tool chain is Fritzing, FlatCAM, Universal
> G-Code Controller, Grbl 0.9, and a YooCNC 3020.
>
> under future jobs, and to do some experiments with clamping and securing
> the copper clad board.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 25 10:49:24 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:49:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC connectors
In-Reply-To: <1416908505.29409.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1416908505.29409.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OpWiTZMPbiQYuwjQnRCKENmwVWREr-0Dqts67i4q2oCw@mail.gmail.com>

I've got a busy couple of evenings but I will try and pop down and measure
and photograph them, failing that we change all three sets with known
connectors?

E

On 25 November 2014 at 09:41, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

>
> > Do you remember what the connectors are on the CNC stepper motors? I'm
> > going to look up CPC for 4-core cable, was going to get a pack of
> > connectors as well - I was going to get 10m of cale in case we need to
> > rewire the whole thing
>
> I should have taken some close up photos of the connector,
> but from memory it looked a bit like a Molex Mini-Fit Jr. series
>
> then again theres a lot of similar connectors, and without a closeup to
> check the details a guess doesnt mean much
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 25 19:23:01 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:23:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PNBynLfMQ5v0T6y_1krhnqJnTJ3tS6L_Hseq1W6y5W1Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://hackaday.com/2014/11/23/using-the-esp8266-as-a-web-enabled-sensor/

neat!

We could use this on the door of our hackspace as well!

I think I will order a bunch of these

Em
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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Nov 25 20:54:47 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:54:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sugru Build Night Submissions
Message-ID: <20141125205447.6d513ea0@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

See if you can spot yours folks..

http://www.instructables.com/id/Sugru-Build-Night-September-2014/


From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 25 23:57:28 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:57:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sugru Build Night Submissions
In-Reply-To: <20141125205447.6d513ea0@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <20141125205447.6d513ea0@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P_idAyg-+Mr9wJHxD9tAkD=5WvCT=CJgm3KcU9YHJhyA@mail.gmail.com>

Yay! The Nerf made it!

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Sharon Mitchell <
sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> See if you can spot yours folks..
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Sugru-Build-Night-September-2014/
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Nov 26 10:21:27 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:21:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7PNBynLfMQ5v0T6y_1krhnqJnTJ3tS6L_Hseq1W6y5W1Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1416997287.25882.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 19:23 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> http://hackaday.com/2014/11/23/using-the-esp8266-as-a-web-enabled-sensor/
> neat!
I had seen cheap wifi-serial boards and had wondered which one to get

> We could use this on the door of our hackspace as well!
Theres a bunch of other sensors we could probably do with too.

I'm working on a general purpose sensor logging/graphing tool for the
website, so that people can hook their projects up

> I think I will order a bunch of these
have ordered 5 to "play" with





From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 21:14:18 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:14:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
In-Reply-To: <1416997287.25882.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CAGAFX7PNBynLfMQ5v0T6y_1krhnqJnTJ3tS6L_Hseq1W6y5W1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1416997287.25882.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oPhc95JRtgfTuyMk1TmGou2ztwaG7sKnkVa5Sw6eHxFzw@mail.gmail.com>

OT but I'm trying to get my usb serial port to send and receive data using
minicom or cutecom.  Using Ubuntu 14.04

I seem to think selling it that 'ttyUSB0' does the trick but nothing I've
tied works.

I've connected TX and RX together so what I type get reflected back.

Is it just a case of a bad attack of finger error ?  *LOL*

Any thoughts anyone ?

Tim_1

On 26 November 2014 at 10:21, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 19:23 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> >
> http://hackaday.com/2014/11/23/using-the-esp8266-as-a-web-enabled-sensor/
> > neat!
> I had seen cheap wifi-serial boards and had wondered which one to get
>
> > We could use this on the door of our hackspace as well!
> Theres a bunch of other sensors we could probably do with too.
>
> I'm working on a general purpose sensor logging/graphing tool for the
> website, so that people can hook their projects up
>
> > I think I will order a bunch of these
> have ordered 5 to "play" with
>
>
>
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Nov 26 21:19:59 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:19:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oPhc95JRtgfTuyMk1TmGou2ztwaG7sKnkVa5Sw6eHxFzw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 21:14 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> OT but I'm trying to get my usb serial port to send and receive data
> using minicom or cutecom.  Using Ubuntu 14.04
> 
> 
> I seem to think selling it that 'ttyUSB0' does the trick but nothing
> I've tied works.
> 
> 
> I've connected TX and RX together so what I type get reflected back.

Depending on the brand it will either be /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0
look at the end of the 'dmesg' command to see what device it was
assigned when it was plugged in (replug if necessary).

you will also need permission on the device, i dont know about that
ubuntu specifically but if you do an 'ls -l' on the device file you will
usually find its in group 'dialout' or 'uucp'

which ever it is, add your username to that group in /etc/group
when you login again yu should now have write permission to those files.

check to see if ModemManager is running, if it is ypu need to kill it,
and disable/uninstall it somehow, it is a bit dumb and assumes that all
serial ports have modems on the end of them, grabs the serial port and
shoves AT commands down it, so kill it off.

with all those fixed you should have more luck 
you can also use the 'serial monitor' feature inside the arduino editor,
it doesnt have to be an arduino connected, its just a serial terminal
program.





From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 22:04:01 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:04:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
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Many thanks Justin ! Greatly appreciated !

I'll try the arduino first as it seems friendly !

:  ))))

Tim_1

On 26 November 2014 at 21:19, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 21:14 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> > OT but I'm trying to get my usb serial port to send and receive data
> > using minicom or cutecom.  Using Ubuntu 14.04
> >
> >
> > I seem to think selling it that 'ttyUSB0' does the trick but nothing
> > I've tied works.
> >
> >
> > I've connected TX and RX together so what I type get reflected back.
>
> Depending on the brand it will either be /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0
> look at the end of the 'dmesg' command to see what device it was
> assigned when it was plugged in (replug if necessary).
>
> you will also need permission on the device, i dont know about that
> ubuntu specifically but if you do an 'ls -l' on the device file you will
> usually find its in group 'dialout' or 'uucp'
>
> which ever it is, add your username to that group in /etc/group
> when you login again yu should now have write permission to those files.
>
> check to see if ModemManager is running, if it is ypu need to kill it,
> and disable/uninstall it somehow, it is a bit dumb and assumes that all
> serial ports have modems on the end of them, grabs the serial port and
> shoves AT commands down it, so kill it off.
>
> with all those fixed you should have more luck
> you can also use the 'serial monitor' feature inside the arduino editor,
> it doesnt have to be an arduino connected, its just a serial terminal
> program.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 22:31:09 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:31:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
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For the record, the Arduino 'ADD' option was used on installation of the
Arduino IDE and it worked fine on selecting the serial board ttyUSB0 at
9600 baud.

the CR+NewLine option worked well to.

It would not go faster than 9600 baud.

However it solved the problem immediately !

Many many thanks !

:  )))

Tim_1

On 26 November 2014 at 22:04, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Many thanks Justin ! Greatly appreciated !
>
> I'll try the arduino first as it seems friendly !
>
> :  ))))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 26 November 2014 at 21:19, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 21:14 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
>> > OT but I'm trying to get my usb serial port to send and receive data
>> > using minicom or cutecom.  Using Ubuntu 14.04
>> >
>> >
>> > I seem to think selling it that 'ttyUSB0' does the trick but nothing
>> > I've tied works.
>> >
>> >
>> > I've connected TX and RX together so what I type get reflected back.
>>
>> Depending on the brand it will either be /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0
>> look at the end of the 'dmesg' command to see what device it was
>> assigned when it was plugged in (replug if necessary).
>>
>> you will also need permission on the device, i dont know about that
>> ubuntu specifically but if you do an 'ls -l' on the device file you will
>> usually find its in group 'dialout' or 'uucp'
>>
>> which ever it is, add your username to that group in /etc/group
>> when you login again yu should now have write permission to those files.
>>
>> check to see if ModemManager is running, if it is ypu need to kill it,
>> and disable/uninstall it somehow, it is a bit dumb and assumes that all
>> serial ports have modems on the end of them, grabs the serial port and
>> shoves AT commands down it, so kill it off.
>>
>> with all those fixed you should have more luck
>> you can also use the 'serial monitor' feature inside the arduino editor,
>> it doesnt have to be an arduino connected, its just a serial terminal
>> program.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 27 10:17:59 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:17:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this baby too
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P1jX_zb4hwxM05w3nm2Vn28X=qTAwU-KsFNmmkqwgEpg@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/laser-engraver-upgrade-pack-500mw-for-xy-plotter-robot-kit-v2-0.html

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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 11:12:46 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:12:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this baby too
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its only 2W,

and craze expensive ??

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/laser-engraver-upgrade-pack-500mw-for-xy-plotter-robot-kit-v2-0.html
>
> :-)
>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 27 12:12:17 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:12:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this baby too
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Ceri, 500mw I thought?

Em

On 27 November 2014 at 11:12, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> its only 2W,
>
> and craze expensive ??
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/laser-engraver-upgrade-pack-500mw-for-xy-plotter-robot-kit-v2-0.html
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 12:55:49 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:55:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this baby too
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Yes, it is only 500mW - piss poor..

I was looking at A N Other ...

Still 2W is well short, of cutting anything more than thick paper !!!

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Ceri, 500mw I thought?
>
> Em
>
> On 27 November 2014 at 11:12, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> its only 2W,
>>
>> and craze expensive ??
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/laser-engraver-upgrade-pack-500mw-for-xy-plotter-robot-kit-v2-0.html
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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>
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 27 13:03:13 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:03:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this baby too
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:-(

On 27 November 2014 at 12:55, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, it is only 500mW - piss poor..
>
> I was looking at A N Other ...
>
> Still 2W is well short, of cutting anything more than thick paper !!!
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Ceri, 500mw I thought?
>>
>> Em
>>
>> On 27 November 2014 at 11:12, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> its only 2W,
>>>
>>> and craze expensive ??
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/laser-engraver-upgrade-pack-500mw-for-xy-plotter-robot-kit-v2-0.html
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 13:44:55 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:44:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this baby too
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2W-445nm-M140-Blue-Laser-Diode-/170898388161

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> :-(
>
> On 27 November 2014 at 12:55, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is only 500mW - piss poor..
>>
>> I was looking at A N Other ...
>>
>> Still 2W is well short, of cutting anything more than thick paper !!!
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ceri, 500mw I thought?
>>>
>>> Em
>>>
>>> On 27 November 2014 at 11:12, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> its only 2W,
>>>>
>>>> and craze expensive ??
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/laser-engraver-upgrade-pack-500mw-for-xy-plotter-robot-kit-v2-0.html
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>> addressed.
>>>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 20:22:24 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 20:22:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] you have probably seen this
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For the record, I think picocom  fixes the problem at a stroke  (I hope)

once installed this cryptic line does it all

picocom /dev/ttyUSB0 -b 9600 -l

Note     l   = lower case L

http://freecode.com/projects/picocom/

http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Setting_up_Minicom_in_Ubuntu

(brilliant ! )

:  ))

Tim_2




On 26 November 2014 at 22:31, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> For the record, the Arduino 'ADD' option was used on installation of the
> Arduino IDE and it worked fine on selecting the serial board ttyUSB0 at
> 9600 baud.
>
> the CR+NewLine option worked well to.
>
> It would not go faster than 9600 baud.
>
> However it solved the problem immediately !
>
> Many many thanks !
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 26 November 2014 at 22:04, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Many thanks Justin ! Greatly appreciated !
>>
>> I'll try the arduino first as it seems friendly !
>>
>> :  ))))
>>
>> Tim_1
>>
>> On 26 November 2014 at 21:19, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 21:14 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
>>> > OT but I'm trying to get my usb serial port to send and receive data
>>> > using minicom or cutecom.  Using Ubuntu 14.04
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I seem to think selling it that 'ttyUSB0' does the trick but nothing
>>> > I've tied works.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I've connected TX and RX together so what I type get reflected back.
>>>
>>> Depending on the brand it will either be /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0
>>> look at the end of the 'dmesg' command to see what device it was
>>> assigned when it was plugged in (replug if necessary).
>>>
>>> you will also need permission on the device, i dont know about that
>>> ubuntu specifically but if you do an 'ls -l' on the device file you will
>>> usually find its in group 'dialout' or 'uucp'
>>>
>>> which ever it is, add your username to that group in /etc/group
>>> when you login again yu should now have write permission to those files.
>>>
>>> check to see if ModemManager is running, if it is ypu need to kill it,
>>> and disable/uninstall it somehow, it is a bit dumb and assumes that all
>>> serial ports have modems on the end of them, grabs the serial port and
>>> shoves AT commands down it, so kill it off.
>>>
>>> with all those fixed you should have more luck
>>> you can also use the 'serial monitor' feature inside the arduino editor,
>>> it doesnt have to be an arduino connected, its just a serial terminal
>>> program.
>>>
>>>
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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Fri Nov 28 21:38:58 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:38:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Design Council SPARK
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Hello all,

This came through on another list. Looks really good.

http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/projects/spark <http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/projects/spark>

"I wanted to let you know about the launch of Design Council Spark ?
an exciting new product innovation fund to uncover the UK's next great
inventions.
Applicants can enter for a chance to win a place on a 20 week bespoke
support programme, as well as up to ?65k investment to help bring
their physical product prototype or idea to market. The not-for profit
programme is unique. Participants donate 5% of future sales revenue
back into the fund, fuelling a movement of revolutionary products for
the UK and beyond."

Cheers

? Paul

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Nov 29 22:30:22 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:30:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino Takeout second helping
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Hi, I have produced a second batch of the Arduino Takeout,

This kit contains everything* you need to get to grips with the basics
of Arduino programming, you can follow our online tutorial, bring it
along to one of our workshops, or follow the myriad of online learning
resources that the Arduino community provide.

(* personal computer and internet connection not included ;)

Suitable for absolute beginners, and great as a gift for the curious.

These kits are available for only ?10 each, and will be in stock at the
space starting Monday 1st Dec at the open night.
 
Full details of the contents on out website
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/TakeOut/Arduino