From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct  1 11:16:55 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 11:16:55 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
Message-ID: <1412158615.12371.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

At SWAMP i would like us to have a small exhibition of members own
projects, past and present, as a form of "this is what you could be
doing" in the space.

I will bring my cyberpunk goggles that are based on neopixels,
i think grahams wooden combination lock would be a wonderful exhibit,
sharons arduino powered "towel" bag would be another,

Does anyone else have objects they could bring/loan for the day please ?
Some examples of 3D Printed objects would also be great.

thanks
 



From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 11:28:57 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:28:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
In-Reply-To: <1412158615.12371.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1412158615.12371.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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I guess i could bring my Core XY parts ??

Will have a look for some other 'Funky Stuff'

Ceri

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> At SWAMP i would like us to have a small exhibition of members own
> projects, past and present, as a form of "this is what you could be
> doing" in the space.
>
> I will bring my cyberpunk goggles that are based on neopixels,
> i think grahams wooden combination lock would be a wonderful exhibit,
> sharons arduino powered "towel" bag would be another,
>
> Does anyone else have objects they could bring/loan for the day please ?
> Some examples of 3D Printed objects would also be great.
>
> thanks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct  1 11:38:16 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 11:38:16 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
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On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:28 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> I guess i could bring my Core XY parts ??
That would be great, thanks

> Will have a look for some other 'Funky Stuff'
You always seem to have some kind of twiddle toy or other printed item,
those kind of things would be interesting to visitors.






From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  1 11:43:15 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:43:15 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
In-Reply-To: <1412159896.12371.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1412158615.12371.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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	<1412159896.12371.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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If we have wired Ethernet internet I could bring in my BB Lamp which
displays our website status in pretty LEDs

On 1 October 2014 11:38, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:28 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> > I guess i could bring my Core XY parts ??
> That would be great, thanks
>
> > Will have a look for some other 'Funky Stuff'
> You always seem to have some kind of twiddle toy or other printed item,
> those kind of things would be interesting to visitors.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct  1 11:47:28 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 11:47:28 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
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References: <1412158615.12371.7.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <1412160448.12371.11.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

Should be possible, if not directly then i have a spare wifi AP i can
run in client mode which will provide a wired connection.

On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:43 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> If we have wired Ethernet internet I could bring in my BB Lamp which
> displays our website status in pretty LEDs
> 
> 
> On 1 October 2014 11:38, Justin Mitchell
> <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>         On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:28 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
>         > I guess i could bring my Core XY parts ??
>         That would be great, thanks
>         
>         > Will have a look for some other 'Funky Stuff'
>         You always seem to have some kind of twiddle toy or other
>         printed item,
>         those kind of things would be interesting to visitors.
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>         
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  1 11:49:18 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:49:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
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	<1412159896.12371.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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great

On 1 October 2014 11:47, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> Should be possible, if not directly then i have a spare wifi AP i can
> run in client mode which will provide a wired connection.
>
> On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:43 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > If we have wired Ethernet internet I could bring in my BB Lamp which
> > displays our website status in pretty LEDs
> >
> >
> > On 1 October 2014 11:38, Justin Mitchell
> > <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> >         On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:28 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> >         > I guess i could bring my Core XY parts ??
> >         That would be great, thanks
> >
> >         > Will have a look for some other 'Funky Stuff'
> >         You always seem to have some kind of twiddle toy or other
> >         printed item,
> >         those kind of things would be interesting to visitors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Hackspace mailing list
> >         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mob: 07836 267426
> >
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> > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> > are addressed.
> >
> > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
> > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy
> > atynt yn unig.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  1 14:38:21 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 14:38:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Exhibit of projects
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS111682FCBE632E3C05E94BDC6B80@phx.gbl>

I would be more than happy to bring in my core9xr and universal IrHeli remote with a couple of heli (tethered so they can't fly off and hit anyone.


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</div>
great

On 1 October 2014 11:47, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> Should be possible, if not directly then i have a spare wifi AP i can
> run in client mode which will provide a wired connection.
>
> On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:43 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > If we have wired Ethernet internet I could bring in my BB Lamp which
> > displays our website status in pretty LEDs
> >
> >
> > On 1 October 2014 11:38, Justin Mitchell
> > <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> >         On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 11:28 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> >         > I guess i could bring my Core XY parts ??
> >         That would be great, thanks
> >
> >         > Will have a look for some other 'Funky Stuff'
> >         You always seem to have some kind of twiddle toy or other
> >         printed item,
> >         those kind of things would be interesting to visitors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Hackspace mailing list
> >         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mob: 07836 267426
> >
> > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> > are addressed.
> >
> > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
> > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy
> > atynt yn unig.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 16:15:48 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 16:15:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Openpump - the open source hardware syringe pump
Message-ID: <E02B8110-15BF-4DF0-906B-7A4EE02EDCC3@gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

Some of you have already seen or helped out with the design of the open source syringe pump I?m working on in the hackspace. I?m happy to announce that it now has its own website: http://www.openpump.org

All the source files, including hardware schematics, firmware and CAD designs are online. Let me know what you think in the discussion forum. Keep in mind that it?s still very much a work-in-progress, and that any contribution is greatly appreciated ;)

Cheers,
Gerrit  




From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  2 13:10:18 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 13:10:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calling into hackspace (got a fob, need a key?)
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS17951C098FCA67E948CC0A5C6B90@phx.gbl>

On my way into now, going to be in hackspace for about 1 hours if anyone needs access.

Ps, shoukd I have a key for the room, only got a fob.


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Oct  2 13:11:08 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 13:11:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calling into hackspace (got a fob,
 need a key?)
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS17951C098FCA67E948CC0A5C6B90@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS17951C098FCA67E948CC0A5C6B90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1412251868.17939.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 13:10 +0100, djdavies83 wrote:
> On my way into now, going to be in hackspace for about 1 hours if
> anyone needs access.
> 
> 
> Ps, shoukd I have a key for the room, only got a fob.

no, its all electronic, the panel to open the door is to the right on
the wall




From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  4 10:12:22 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:12:22 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Toaster teardown
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS2199812505094B88498FD62C6A70@phx.gbl>

I'll be in hackspace today 10:30 (just after McDonalds)-13:00 if anyone wants access.

I will be tearing down a toaster if anyone wants any parts.


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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 10:25:44 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:25:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Multi tool
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8gL285co=Hd9Gz+bqZ5VZFhPephAcs5e+RK=JjN+ip+A@mail.gmail.com>

What about this for the shopping list ..

Multi tool,

mill,
lathe
etc ..

?100.



http://www.banggood.com/6-In-1-Multi-Metal-Mini-Wood-Lathe-Motorized-Jig-saw-Grinder-Driller-p-934309.html?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=mail_men103_email&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=xuxu&emst=Mtk9r2hkU2_12825_1104161_136


Ceri
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Oct  6 11:02:46 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:02:46 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Multi tool
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So cute!

On Monday, 6 October 2014, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What about this for the shopping list ..
>
> Multi tool,
>
> mill,
> lathe
> etc ..
>
> ?100.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.banggood.com/6-In-1-Multi-Metal-Mini-Wood-Lathe-Motorized-Jig-saw-Grinder-Driller-p-934309.html?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=mail_men103_email&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=xuxu&emst=Mtk9r2hkU2_12825_1104161_136
>
>
> Ceri
>


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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  6 11:47:48 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:47:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Multi tool
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS383E08204B503241BCDE7AC6A50@phx.gbl>

Haha, I was looking at this a couple of days ago and thibkong it could be good for hackspace.

It also reminded me of this set I had as a kid...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Adams-Toy-Brokers-3248/dp/B002KKBURA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412592342&sr=8-1&keywords=real+power+workshop+wood

...but an adults version.


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:06/10/2014  11:03  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Multi tool </div><div>
</div>
So cute!

On Monday, 6 October 2014, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What about this for the shopping list ..
>
> Multi tool,
>
> mill,
> lathe
> etc ..
>
> ?100.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.banggood.com/6-In-1-Multi-Metal-Mini-Wood-Lathe-Motorized-Jig-saw-Grinder-Driller-p-934309.html?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=mail_men103_email&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=xuxu&emst=Mtk9r2hkU2_12825_1104161_136
>
>
> Ceri
>


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From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct  7 13:34:01 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:34:01 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark IO
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MZQEnrz9u2TyCVd_6BeOuP46Espa+V1Zet6rWzW2Dmhg@mail.gmail.com>

Been reading up a bit about the Spark IO - this could be a fun build night

http://docs.spark.io/assets/images/spark-pinout.png

is a useful sheet

lots of help here

http://docs.spark.io/start/

Emyr
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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Oct  7 13:45:13 2014
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:45:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark IO
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:34:01 +0100
Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Been reading up a bit about the Spark IO - this could be a fun build
> night

Yes it's the Instructables Build Night for November and we have
applied, notifications due out on the 9th.



From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct  7 14:06:15 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:06:15 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark IO
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I had looked at them in the past and dismissed them as something I would
buy due to the fact they are tied to their cloud service - when they first
floated the idea I was quite excited by it, but then the experience with
Violet made me wary of anything that is tied to a service provider.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabaztag

On 7 October 2014 13:45, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:34:01 +0100
> Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> > Been reading up a bit about the Spark IO - this could be a fun build
> > night
>
> Yes it's the Instructables Build Night for November and we have
> applied, notifications due out on the 9th.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 14:30:17 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:30:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark IO
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I got the chance to meet the team that developed the Spark platform at ThingsCon in Berlin this year - a friendly group of people! They gave every ThingsCon attendee a free Spark Core in their welcome pack, and ran a workshop where they gave away even more free stuff (relay shields etc.)

To be honest I haven?t played around with my Spark Core that much as my Arduino works just fine. From what I?ve heard the compile-upload cycle on the Spark can be quite long because it has to send the updated code over WiFi.

Interestingly, when Spark first tried to get funding on Kickstarter back in 2012 it failed, but when they relaunched in 2013 they got $567,968 for their $10k goal.

On 7 Oct 2014, at 14:06, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I had looked at them in the past and dismissed them as something I would buy due to the fact they are tied to their cloud service - when they first floated the idea I was quite excited by it, but then the experience with Violet made me wary of anything that is tied to a service provider.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabaztag
> 
> On 7 October 2014 13:45, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:34:01 +0100
> Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
> > Been reading up a bit about the Spark IO - this could be a fun build
> > night
> 
> Yes it's the Instructables Build Night for November and we have
> applied, notifications due out on the 9th.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Oct  7 17:36:06 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:36:06 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IR proximity sensor
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Message-ID: <1412699766.11315.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 17:29 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> IR proximity sensor

> It works (ish)

> something shiny (a coin cell) 40mm
> black insulting tape 6mm
> flat white plastic 30mm
> 
> 
> Note just a quick test, nothing scientific ...

Great thanks, that might work quite well off the glass bed, 
we shall have to try it out sometime.




From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Oct  7 21:37:33 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:37:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Helpers needed
Message-ID: <1412714253.11315.48.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

Hi folks, its only 3 more days until our SWAMP Fest event,
and this is where we need to beg for some people to come and help us out
with setting up and general shepherding duties.

I need a couple of volunteers to help unload tables from a van and carry
them into the space on Thursday evening, around 17:30 - 18:00 time.

I also need as many helpers as possible for Saturday itself, I'm not
asking for all day, even just an hour of your time would be a huge help.

The majority of the brute force work will be from 9am-10am saturday
morning moving chairs and tables, putting up signs, etc. the event is
spread across three floors so theres lots going on.

then during the rest of the day (10-5pm) anyone who wants to help out on
the door, lend a hand at workshops, or just help out directing people,
that would also be much appreciated.

Theres 120 tickets taken already, and the number just keeps climbing
every day, so it should be a great event.

Full schedule of activities is http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk



From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 21:48:14 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:48:14 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Helpers needed
In-Reply-To: <1412714253.11315.48.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1412714253.11315.48.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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IM afraid IM still away in Somerset,
web designing, looking after chickens, rabbits, dogs, various house 
sittings, assorted hippy gatherings and techie meet ups.
will be away for another week or two yet. just starting to look after 
another friends house as they go to Italy for a week.

so happy full moon and eclipse (on the wrong side of the world) 
-everyone is going bonkers over here, not sure how it is there.
ok ciao




From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  8 00:22:36 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 00:22:36 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS2162E27BD8C2383F42D6E51C6A20@phx.gbl>

Our hamster, after being with us for about 3 months has finally lerned how to use her wheel!

I would love to know how you did this project. If you still have the setup I could possibly bring her along to SWAMP if you want to display the project.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:08/09/2014  11:23  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest </div><div>
</div>had my hamster not died a while ago I could have brought along the first
Tweeting Hamster in the world :-(

(he did have some help from an arduino and a reed sensor...)

On 8 September 2014 11:19, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> I think the only one I can offer to help with is number two......
>
> On 8 September 2014 10:48, Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th.
>>
>> http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk
>>
>> I still need volunteers for the following :-
>>
>> 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within
>> Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the
>> event.
>>
>> 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk
>>
>> 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room
>>
>> There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most
>> specific things right now.
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>
>


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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Wed Oct  8 05:45:45 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 05:45:45 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Helpers needed
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Hi Justin,
I will be travelling from London Thursday night and won't be back in time.

I'm usually dropping my son off at his Stagecoach School for 10am Saturday
but will talk nicely to my Wife to see if I can get down to help with the
heavy lifting from 9am to 10 am.

That's a great result on th tickets front :-))

See you soon,

Richard



On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks, its only 3 more days until our SWAMP Fest event,
> and this is where we need to beg for some people to come and help us out
> with setting up and general shepherding duties.
>
> I need a couple of volunteers to help unload tables from a van and carry
> them into the space on Thursday evening, around 17:30 - 18:00 time.
>
> I also need as many helpers as possible for Saturday itself, I'm not
> asking for all day, even just an hour of your time would be a huge help.
>
> The majority of the brute force work will be from 9am-10am saturday
> morning moving chairs and tables, putting up signs, etc. the event is
> spread across three floors so theres lots going on.
>
> then during the rest of the day (10-5pm) anyone who wants to help out on
> the door, lend a hand at workshops, or just help out directing people,
> that would also be much appreciated.
>
> Theres 120 tickets taken already, and the number just keeps climbing
> every day, so it should be a great event.
>
> Full schedule of activities is http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>


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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Wed Oct  8 08:24:56 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:24:56 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Helpers needed
In-Reply-To: <1412714253.11315.48.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1412714253.11315.48.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <5CD0AC7C-975E-43BA-8572-7E8DC82E1A56@harwood-leon.com>

Hi Justin,

I?ll hopefully be able to make it for a couple of hours in the morning.

Well done on tickets, sounds superb!

Cheers

? Paul

On 7 Oct 2014, at 21:37, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks, its only 3 more days until our SWAMP Fest event,
> and this is where we need to beg for some people to come and help us out
> with setting up and general shepherding duties.
> 
> I need a couple of volunteers to help unload tables from a van and carry
> them into the space on Thursday evening, around 17:30 - 18:00 time.
> 
> I also need as many helpers as possible for Saturday itself, I'm not
> asking for all day, even just an hour of your time would be a huge help.
> 
> The majority of the brute force work will be from 9am-10am saturday
> morning moving chairs and tables, putting up signs, etc. the event is
> spread across three floors so theres lots going on.
> 
> then during the rest of the day (10-5pm) anyone who wants to help out on
> the door, lend a hand at workshops, or just help out directing people,
> that would also be much appreciated.
> 
> Theres 120 tickets taken already, and the number just keeps climbing
> every day, so it should be a great event.
> 
> Full schedule of activities is http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  8 11:21:35 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 11:21:35 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Helpers needed
In-Reply-To: <5CD0AC7C-975E-43BA-8572-7E8DC82E1A56@harwood-leon.com>
References: <1412714253.11315.48.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<5CD0AC7C-975E-43BA-8572-7E8DC82E1A56@harwood-leon.com>
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I will be there at some point on Saturday and happy to help out once I am
there - can't promise times yet - teenage son and all that - he is keen to
attend workshops so we will be there.

I will try to be there on Thrusday - I won't be able to lift much due to my
bad back but I am a good supervisor ;-)

On 8 October 2014 08:24, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> I?ll hopefully be able to make it for a couple of hours in the morning.
>
> Well done on tickets, sounds superb!
>
> Cheers
>
> ? Paul
>
> On 7 Oct 2014, at 21:37, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks, its only 3 more days until our SWAMP Fest event,
> > and this is where we need to beg for some people to come and help us out
> > with setting up and general shepherding duties.
> >
> > I need a couple of volunteers to help unload tables from a van and carry
> > them into the space on Thursday evening, around 17:30 - 18:00 time.
> >
> > I also need as many helpers as possible for Saturday itself, I'm not
> > asking for all day, even just an hour of your time would be a huge help.
> >
> > The majority of the brute force work will be from 9am-10am saturday
> > morning moving chairs and tables, putting up signs, etc. the event is
> > spread across three floors so theres lots going on.
> >
> > then during the rest of the day (10-5pm) anyone who wants to help out on
> > the door, lend a hand at workshops, or just help out directing people,
> > that would also be much appreciated.
> >
> > Theres 120 tickets taken already, and the number just keeps climbing
> > every day, so it should be a great event.
> >
> > Full schedule of activities is http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  8 13:26:01 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 13:26:01 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS2162E27BD8C2383F42D6E51C6A20@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS2162E27BD8C2383F42D6E51C6A20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PnGaceE3Y4KqQuYDJ=GP0JcdH44_1rZrjCxHap2rmx9g@mail.gmail.com>

hahaha! our 'wheel' was on the outside of the enclosure - it was a very
simple setup...

An Arduino, a reed switch on the wheel and an ethernet shield... (I had
extra components to measure temp and light levels - they were not related
to Hammy)

https://twitter.com/bochdew

Let me see if I can find the stuff and re-create it

the arduino code may need re-writing as the Ethernet Library has changed
since I had the project running

Emyr

On 8 October 2014 00:22, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Our hamster, after being with us for about 3 months has finally lerned how
> to use her wheel!
>
> I would love to know how you did this project. If you still have the setup
> I could possibly bring her along to SWAMP if you want to display the
> project.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris
> Date:08/09/2014 11:23 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest
>
> had my hamster not died a while ago I could have brought along the first
> Tweeting Hamster in the world :-(
>
> (he did have some help from an arduino and a reed sensor...)
>
> On 8 September 2014 11:19, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > I think the only one I can offer to help with is number two......
> >
> > On 8 September 2014 10:48, Justin Mitchell <
> > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th.
> >>
> >> http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk
> >>
> >> I still need volunteers for the following :-
> >>
> >> 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within
> >> Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the
> >> event.
> >>
> >> 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk
> >>
> >> 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room
> >>
> >> There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most
> >> specific things right now.
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Hackspace mailing list
> >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  8 13:29:31 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 13:29:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NNDG49n6+Ff-d+Ved6299F1FWtjhuxx7sWD-y+TMLFQw@mail.gmail.com>

If possible I will need at least one cabled ethernet with internet access
for my Arduino LED Lamp Project - it will help also to know a static IP I
can program into my Arduinos

I will bring a 3G dongle with me as a just in case so no mad panic

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct  8 15:17:04 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:17:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
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On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 13:29 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> If possible I will need at least one cabled ethernet with internet
> access for my Arduino LED Lamp Project - it will help also to know a
> static IP I can program into my Arduinos
> 
> 
> I will bring a 3G dongle with me as a just in case so no mad panic

I have a spare wifi access point that i can bring, that can be
configured to run in client/bridge mode giving you wired access, 
but i don't have the time now to configure it for you, you'd have to do
that on the day.




From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  8 15:32:34 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:32:34 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest
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Hi Guys,

I can bring the van into swansea either tomorrow or friday if someone can
tell me where i need to collect the tables from, and help with the loading
etc.

If thats a yes, could you give me a call, as i havent been able to check
mail much in the last 2 weeks.

Graham

On 8 October 2014 00:22, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Our hamster, after being with us for about 3 months has finally lerned how
> to use her wheel!
>
> I would love to know how you did this project. If you still have the setup
> I could possibly bring her along to SWAMP if you want to display the
> project.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris
> Date:08/09/2014 11:23 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest
>
> had my hamster not died a while ago I could have brought along the first
> Tweeting Hamster in the world :-(
>
> (he did have some help from an arduino and a reed sensor...)
>
> On 8 September 2014 11:19, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > I think the only one I can offer to help with is number two......
> >
> > On 8 September 2014 10:48, Justin Mitchell <
> > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th.
> >>
> >> http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk
> >>
> >> I still need volunteers for the following :-
> >>
> >> 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within
> >> Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the
> >> event.
> >>
> >> 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk
> >>
> >> 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room
> >>
> >> There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most
> >> specific things right now.
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Hackspace mailing list
> >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
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> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  8 15:34:56 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:34:56 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS198654890A2212150A50607C6A30@phx.gbl>

I have a 5v powered wifi ethernet bridge, it should work, it used to wirk at home bit it stopped, when I tried it at wotk it was fine

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If possible I will need at least one cabled ethernet with internet access
for my Arduino LED Lamp Project - it will help also to know a static IP I
can program into my Arduinos

I will bring a 3G dongle with me as a just in case so no mad panic

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From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  8 18:06:32 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 18:06:32 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
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As I said, I have a 3G mifi dongle too - it works in the office, but when I
tried it with my newest arduino it didn't work - I will make sure I can get
it to work before the weekend so as to cause the least agro :-)

On 8 October 2014 15:34, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I have a 5v powered wifi ethernet bridge, it should work, it used to
> wirk at home bit it stopped, when I tried it at wotk it was fine
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris
> Date:08/10/2014 13:29 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
>
>  If possible I will need at least one cabled ethernet with internet
> access for my Arduino LED Lamp Project - it will help also to know a static
> IP I can program into my Arduinos
>
>  I will bring a 3G dongle with me as a just in case so no mad panic
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct  8 18:13:06 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 18:13:06 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
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PS Thank you though for the kind offers! :-)

On 8 October 2014 18:06, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> As I said, I have a 3G mifi dongle too - it works in the office, but when
> I tried it with my newest arduino it didn't work - I will make sure I can
> get it to work before the weekend so as to cause the least agro :-)
>
> On 8 October 2014 15:34, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I have a 5v powered wifi ethernet bridge, it should work, it used to
>> wirk at home bit it stopped, when I tried it at wotk it was fine
>>
>>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Emyr Morris
>> Date:08/10/2014 13:29 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Projects showcase
>>
>>  If possible I will need at least one cabled ethernet with internet
>> access for my Arduino LED Lamp Project - it will help also to know a static
>> IP I can program into my Arduinos
>>
>>  I will bring a 3G dongle with me as a just in case so no mad panic
>>
>> --
>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>



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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  9 21:41:35 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 21:41:35 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] For the guy wanting to build a tracked board
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4QCBfTVKOE9ZyJVT8x4ya0YFKaS_E1n-QhTYTyC6Tu-fw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Sorry  I am really terrible at spelling, but i finally found that book
that I mentioned that goes into detail about how to design tracked vehices.

here is a link to an online source:
http://www.robot.bmstu.ru/files/books/Robotics%20-%20E-Book%20-%20McGraw-Hill%20-%20Robot%20Mechanisms%20and%20Mechanical%20Devices%20Illustrated%20-%202003%20-%20(By%20Laxxuss)%20(Science,%20AI,%20Engineering,%20Electronics).pdf

chapter 5 would be the chapter you need :)

I would highly recommend you buy the book if your interested in that sort
of thing, its one thing to look on the computer but much better to hold in
your hand

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanisms-Mechanical-Devices-Illustrated-Robotics/dp/007141200X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412887207&sr=8-2&keywords=robot+mechanisms

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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 10 00:41:52 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:41:52 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Watch "6-axis 3D Printer" on YouTube
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS479971D67AF07935A46A95C6A00@phx.gbl>

6-axis 3D Printer: http://youtu.be/qGyiXFGvkqE



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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Fri Oct 10 09:18:03 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:18:03 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
Message-ID: <CANSRvvAywtt3GtUqLkxVSurwBQ6scDuhhvTQCxxcnaTDrsC18A@mail.gmail.com>

I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these
Winter months.

I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering about
using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
changing brightness / colours...

It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up the
diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.

http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ

We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it for
kids parties etc would be cool.

Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?

All suggestions very gratefully received....


-- 
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Richard
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 09:26:54 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:26:54 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvAywtt3GtUqLkxVSurwBQ6scDuhhvTQCxxcnaTDrsC18A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvAywtt3GtUqLkxVSurwBQ6scDuhhvTQCxxcnaTDrsC18A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4QjbVKNED6mztf_1DNJ4FGdB5Pg4dD+HVk1-Xiaf=JmMw@mail.gmail.com>

My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what
brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright
it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time
making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more
sensitive to green light [?])

Graham

On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these
> Winter months.
>
> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering
> about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
> distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
> changing brightness / colours...
>
> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up the
> diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>
>
> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>
> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it for
> kids parties etc would be cool.
>
> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>
> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 09:43:35 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:43:35 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4QjbVKNED6mztf_1DNJ4FGdB5Pg4dD+HVk1-Xiaf=JmMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvAywtt3GtUqLkxVSurwBQ6scDuhhvTQCxxcnaTDrsC18A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QjbVKNED6mztf_1DNJ4FGdB5Pg4dD+HVk1-Xiaf=JmMw@mail.gmail.com>
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I got this:
http://www.banggood.com/LED-Rigid-Strip-Light-50cm-12V-36-SMD-7020-U-Shape-White-p-909736.html

from china.


Beautiful clean white (not warm white)

very bright, but they do run warm, but not hot.

If i remember will bring one tomorrow !!!

Ceri

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what
> brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright
> it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time
> making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more
> sensitive to green light [?])
>
> Graham
>
> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these
>> Winter months.
>>
>> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering
>> about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
>> distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
>> changing brightness / colours...
>>
>> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up
>> the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>>
>>
>> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>>
>> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it for
>> kids parties etc would be cool.
>>
>> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>>
>> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 10:10:58 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:10:58 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_bnbXTX2gxJ33kVAm_1qSMNngA=zoViO3BykRwLLgPZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvAywtt3GtUqLkxVSurwBQ6scDuhhvTQCxxcnaTDrsC18A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QjbVKNED6mztf_1DNJ4FGdB5Pg4dD+HVk1-Xiaf=JmMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_bnbXTX2gxJ33kVAm_1qSMNngA=zoViO3BykRwLLgPZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F15EE63-A797-4B57-B490-1E7587665F33@gmail.com>

The RGB LED light strip that I demoed at the first technical meeting back in April 2013 (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/20130422) had 60 LEDs/metre (the slides at that link has all the details).

I bought them from Adafruit (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1138) and just noticed you can now buy a mind-boggling 144 LEDs/metre strip (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1507). It does pull 7A at 5V though.

Richard, the design of that remote control you linked to looks like a bit of a rip-off of the Philips LivingColors remote control from 2010:
http://www.core77.com/blog/featured_items/neocon_2010_video_control_the_color_of_your_room_by_remote__16745.asp 
Philips has been improving on that design in the past 4 years: http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/6916431PH/livingcolors

Keep in mind that when using RGB LED light strips, the three LEDs are turned up to full brightness to give you a white colour, which consumes the most power.

Cheers,
Gerrit


On 10 Oct 2014, at 09:43, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> I got this:
> http://www.banggood.com/LED-Rigid-Strip-Light-50cm-12V-36-SMD-7020-U-Shape-White-p-909736.html
> 
> from china.
> 
> 
> Beautiful clean white (not warm white)
> 
> very bright, but they do run warm, but not hot.
> 
> If i remember will bring one tomorrow !!!
> 
> Ceri
> 
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more sensitive to green light <338.gif>)
> 
> Graham
> 
> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these Winter months.
> 
> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and changing brightness / colours...
> 
> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
> 
> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
> 
> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it for kids parties etc would be cool.
> 
> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
> 
> All suggestions very gratefully received....
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Richard
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> 
> 
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Fri Oct 10 11:38:44 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:38:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
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LOL! Thanks Graham - that's good to know that they are capable of throwing
enough light out (green or otherwise!). If you do get a view of the brand
that would be helpful.

Richard



On 10 October 2014 09:26, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what
> brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright
> it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time
> making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more
> sensitive to green light [?])
>
> Graham
>
> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these
>> Winter months.
>>
>> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering
>> about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
>> distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
>> changing brightness / colours...
>>
>> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up
>> the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>>
>>
>> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>>
>> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it for
>> kids parties etc would be cool.
>>
>> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>>
>> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


-- 
Kind regards,

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Fri Oct 10 11:44:52 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:44:52 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
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Thanks Gerit,
Talking of the power needs then....I was thinking LEDs would be more cost
effective than halogen lighting. And given we're going into the 'darker'
months, these will be on for probably 5-6hrs a night every day...

Does the fact that I'm looking at going for so many LEDs on strip lighting
negate that argument?

The 'low profile' of these in that they can just be attached to the
existing beams with minimal screwing/drilling, and the lighting coverage
and colours/dimming will likely still win the day though.



On 10 October 2014 10:10, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> The RGB LED light strip that I demoed at the first technical meeting back
> in April 2013 (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/20130422) had 60
> LEDs/metre (the slides at that link has all the details).
>
> I bought them from Adafruit (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1138) and
> just noticed you can now buy a mind-boggling 144 LEDs/metre strip (
> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1507). It does pull 7A at 5V though.
>
> Richard, the design of that remote control you linked to looks like a bit
> of a rip-off of the Philips LivingColors remote control from 2010:
>
> http://www.core77.com/blog/featured_items/neocon_2010_video_control_the_color_of_your_room_by_remote__16745.asp
>
> Philips has been improving on that design in the past 4 years:
> http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/6916431PH/livingcolors
>
> Keep in mind that when using RGB LED light strips, the three LEDs are
> turned up to full brightness to give you a white colour, which consumes the
> most power.
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2014, at 09:43, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I got this:
>
> http://www.banggood.com/LED-Rigid-Strip-Light-50cm-12V-36-SMD-7020-U-Shape-White-p-909736.html
>
> from china.
>
>
> Beautiful clean white (not warm white)
>
> very bright, but they do run warm, but not hot.
>
> If i remember will bring one tomorrow !!!
>
> Ceri
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Graham Owens <
> grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what
>> brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright
>> it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time
>> making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more
>> sensitive to green light <338.gif>)
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these
>>> Winter months.
>>>
>>> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering
>>> about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
>>> distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
>>> changing brightness / colours...
>>>
>>> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up
>>> the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>>>
>>> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it
>>> for kids parties etc would be cool.
>>>
>>> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>>>
>>> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>
>


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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Oct 10 11:59:35 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:59:35 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
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On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 11:44 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote:
> Thanks Gerit,
> Talking of the power needs then....I was thinking LEDs would be more
> cost effective than halogen lighting. And given we're going into the
> 'darker' months, these will be on for probably 5-6hrs a night every
> day...

White LEDs will be cheaper, and suggestions say would also be more power
efficient, but less fun as you cant change the colour.

> Does the fact that I'm looking at going for so many LEDs on strip
> lighting negate that argument?
The output from red green and blue is being added to make white, so you
should be getting the same amount of light out of 1 RGB set as you do 3
White of the same power, but, the blue used to make white (via
phosphors) is a lot more efficient than the other colours.


> The 'low profile' of these in that they can just be attached to the
> existing beams with minimal screwing/drilling, and the lighting
> coverage and colours/dimming will likely still win the day though.

You can usually get the led strips in a protective waterproof plastic
runner, and they often have an adhesive strip on the back too.




From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 12:12:57 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:12:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvCrTi3706_E2S13Kp3iUTsotoAL0Bm_EOrpcMg7xLD_WA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvAywtt3GtUqLkxVSurwBQ6scDuhhvTQCxxcnaTDrsC18A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QjbVKNED6mztf_1DNJ4FGdB5Pg4dD+HVk1-Xiaf=JmMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_bnbXTX2gxJ33kVAm_1qSMNngA=zoViO3BykRwLLgPZg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9F15EE63-A797-4B57-B490-1E7587665F33@gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvCrTi3706_E2S13Kp3iUTsotoAL0Bm_EOrpcMg7xLD_WA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D5F1488-8471-477C-BAC4-2CA488706297@gmail.com>

Hi Richard,

- The strip you linked to claims 7.2W/m. It?s not clear whether that is the consumption at full (white) brightness.
- The white LED strip Ceri linked to claims 0.35W/LED (at full brightness) x 36 LEDs/0.5m x 2  = 25.2W/m
- The 60 RGB LEDs/m strip I linked to claims 18W/m (at full brightness)

This is still lower than incandescent (60W) and halogen (43W) bulbs. However, I?m thinking you won?t be content with just a 1m strip ;)

Cheers,
Gerrit

PS - Ceri brings up an interesting point regarding colour temperature (listed in Kelvin, not to be confused with the actual temperature of the LED): Some LEDs produce a cooler, more ?energising? white, while other produce a warmer, ?cosier? light 


On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:44, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks Gerit,
> Talking of the power needs then....I was thinking LEDs would be more cost effective than halogen lighting. And given we're going into the 'darker' months, these will be on for probably 5-6hrs a night every day...
> 
> Does the fact that I'm looking at going for so many LEDs on strip lighting negate that argument?
> 
> The 'low profile' of these in that they can just be attached to the existing beams with minimal screwing/drilling, and the lighting coverage and colours/dimming will likely still win the day though.
>  
> 
> 
> On 10 October 2014 10:10, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
> The RGB LED light strip that I demoed at the first technical meeting back in April 2013 (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/20130422) had 60 LEDs/metre (the slides at that link has all the details).
> 
> I bought them from Adafruit (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1138) and just noticed you can now buy a mind-boggling 144 LEDs/metre strip (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1507). It does pull 7A at 5V though.
> 
> Richard, the design of that remote control you linked to looks like a bit of a rip-off of the Philips LivingColors remote control from 2010:
> http://www.core77.com/blog/featured_items/neocon_2010_video_control_the_color_of_your_room_by_remote__16745.asp 
> Philips has been improving on that design in the past 4 years: http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/6916431PH/livingcolors
> 
> Keep in mind that when using RGB LED light strips, the three LEDs are turned up to full brightness to give you a white colour, which consumes the most power.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
> 
> 
> On 10 Oct 2014, at 09:43, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I got this:
>> http://www.banggood.com/LED-Rigid-Strip-Light-50cm-12V-36-SMD-7020-U-Shape-White-p-909736.html
>> 
>> from china.
>> 
>> 
>> Beautiful clean white (not warm white)
>> 
>> very bright, but they do run warm, but not hot.
>> 
>> If i remember will bring one tomorrow !!!
>> 
>> Ceri
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more sensitive to green light <338.gif>)
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these Winter months.
>> 
>> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and changing brightness / colours...
>> 
>> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>> 
>> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>> 
>> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it for kids parties etc would be cool.
>> 
>> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>> 
>> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Richard
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From em at preseli.com  Fri Oct 10 14:05:01 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:05:01 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
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other consideration is the number of LEDs per meter - if you want to
consume less power then getting a strip with a lower LED count would save
power - the trade off would be less light.

Most LED bulbs will have some form of lens to direct the light to an area -
those LED strips are just that, strips of LEDs with no lens.

I feel their use is best suited to decoration - put a strip behind the
frame of a painting, above a shelf to light your trinkets below it etc
rather than lighting a room to a comfortable level of lighting (say to read
a book) - as a migraine sufferer I wouldn't enjoy sitting in your
conservatory if you had enough of those strips to light your 'room' without
any other form of lighting

On 10 October 2014 12:12, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> - The strip you linked to claims 7.2W/m. It?s not clear whether that is
> the consumption at full (white) brightness.
> - The white LED strip Ceri linked to claims 0.35W/LED (at full
> brightness) x 36 LEDs/0.5m x 2  = 25.2W/m
> - The 60 RGB LEDs/m strip I linked to claims 18W/m (at full brightness)
>
> This is still lower than incandescent (60W) and halogen (43W) bulbs.
> However, I?m thinking you won?t be content with just a 1m strip ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
> PS - Ceri brings up an interesting point regarding colour temperature
> (listed in Kelvin, not to be confused with the actual temperature of the
> LED): Some LEDs produce a cooler, more ?energising? white, while other
> produce a warmer, ?cosier? light
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:44, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gerit,
> Talking of the power needs then....I was thinking LEDs would be more cost
> effective than halogen lighting. And given we're going into the 'darker'
> months, these will be on for probably 5-6hrs a night every day...
>
> Does the fact that I'm looking at going for so many LEDs on strip lighting
> negate that argument?
>
> The 'low profile' of these in that they can just be attached to the
> existing beams with minimal screwing/drilling, and the lighting coverage
> and colours/dimming will likely still win the day though.
>
>
>
> On 10 October 2014 10:10, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The RGB LED light strip that I demoed at the first technical meeting back
>> in April 2013 (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/20130422) had 60
>> LEDs/metre (the slides at that link has all the details).
>>
>> I bought them from Adafruit (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1138) and
>> just noticed you can now buy a mind-boggling 144 LEDs/metre strip (
>> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1507). It does pull 7A at 5V though.
>>
>> Richard, the design of that remote control you linked to looks like a bit
>> of a rip-off of the Philips LivingColors remote control from 2010:
>>
>> http://www.core77.com/blog/featured_items/neocon_2010_video_control_the_color_of_your_room_by_remote__16745.asp
>>
>> Philips has been improving on that design in the past 4 years:
>> http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/6916431PH/livingcolors
>>
>> Keep in mind that when using RGB LED light strips, the three LEDs are
>> turned up to full brightness to give you a white colour, which consumes the
>> most power.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerrit
>>
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 09:43, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I got this:
>>
>> http://www.banggood.com/LED-Rigid-Strip-Light-50cm-12V-36-SMD-7020-U-Shape-White-p-909736.html
>>
>> from china.
>>
>>
>> Beautiful clean white (not warm white)
>>
>> very bright, but they do run warm, but not hot.
>>
>> If i remember will bring one tomorrow !!!
>>
>> Ceri
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Graham Owens <
>> grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what
>>> brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright
>>> it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time
>>> making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more
>>> sensitive to green light <338.gif>)
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in these
>>>> Winter months.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering
>>>> about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
>>>> distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
>>>> changing brightness / colours...
>>>>
>>>> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up
>>>> the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>>>>
>>>> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it
>>>> for kids parties etc would be cool.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>>>>
>>>> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Sat Oct 11 18:47:39 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:47:39 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Well Done!
Message-ID: <CANSRvvC8bF=1eZr69NcR9imEd=5vUY6JnzB5pqQEiphXYsnXiQ@mail.gmail.com>

To all Swansea Hackspacers,
Well done on a really great event with lots of people coming to the space
and seeing, learning, listening and engaging.

There were great exhibitors (and Ceri was there too) and Maplin Electronics
had a stand too. I even came away with a couple of steampunked bits for Max
from Lurcher Gallery's stand.

I had a really good time so thanks to Justin and Sharon for all the hard
work organising and to the rest of the members for making it happen. A
great achievement.

I'm proud to be a member of Swansea Hackspace and am looking forward to
many more great events.

Thanks again,

Richard

P.S. Looking forward to Tim's photo montage coming out soon :-)
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From em at preseli.com  Sat Oct 11 19:10:25 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:10:25 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Well Done!
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvC8bF=1eZr69NcR9imEd=5vUY6JnzB5pqQEiphXYsnXiQ@mail.gmail.com>
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it was a cracking event! Really enjoyed it - the Maplin guys were really
pleased that they came and left thrilled

I went to the shop after to use my 10%off voucher and the manager Anthony
was chuffed as well

Very well organised, everybody seemed to be enjoying themselves! The
Arduino Takeaway is simply fantastic, Osian has already had a little go
earlier on.

Thank you

Emyr

On 11 October 2014 18:47, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> To all Swansea Hackspacers,
> Well done on a really great event with lots of people coming to the space
> and seeing, learning, listening and engaging.
>
> There were great exhibitors (and Ceri was there too) and Maplin
> Electronics had a stand too. I even came away with a couple of steampunked
> bits for Max from Lurcher Gallery's stand.
>
> I had a really good time so thanks to Justin and Sharon for all the hard
> work organising and to the rest of the members for making it happen. A
> great achievement.
>
> I'm proud to be a member of Swansea Hackspace and am looking forward to
> many more great events.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Richard
>
> P.S. Looking forward to Tim's photo montage coming out soon :-)
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Oct 11 20:31:32 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:31:32 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Well Done!
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Message-ID: <1413055892.20453.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

A big thank you to everyone that came and made it such a successful day,
and extra special thanks to all those that moved furniture, manned
stalls, guarded gates, or otherwise generally helped out.

By our count there was a 108 visitors through the gates, plus the dozens
of exhibitors, stall holders and speakers. 

We got asked plenty of times "when are we doing this again", so i think
it safe to say we will be trying to do this again, but maybe next
year :)




From em at preseli.com  Sat Oct 11 23:12:27 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 23:12:27 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Well Done!
In-Reply-To: <1413055892.20453.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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with luck it will whet people's appetite for specific workshops, every time
we came up to the 4th floor we could hardly get into the room - it was very
cosy but it was clear that was where it was 'appening!

On 11 October 2014 20:31, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> A big thank you to everyone that came and made it such a successful day,
> and extra special thanks to all those that moved furniture, manned
> stalls, guarded gates, or otherwise generally helped out.
>
> By our count there was a 108 visitors through the gates, plus the dozens
> of exhibitors, stall holders and speakers.
>
> We got asked plenty of times "when are we doing this again", so i think
> it safe to say we will be trying to do this again, but maybe next
> year :)
>
>
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From richard.morgan at proddio.com  Mon Oct 13 20:17:37 2014
From: richard.morgan at proddio.com (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:17:37 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Review Products
In-Reply-To: <1413196484.2422.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1413196484.2422.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CAKV8ZGbx5oVqKkEVT+8WBFKn4U4jb8py=6_J61-6jEdeSWEJfw@mail.gmail.com>

Cheers Carl,
Really glad you guys made it and thank you so much for helping out and
making the event such a success.

That's great news on the loan kit (I took the loan kit on the weekend off
Richard and it's in the Hackspace), I'll ask the guys if someone is able to
pop in and collect the rest of the kit. How much kit are we talking about
and what size / weight?

I've swapped emails with Andy and the Hackspace are looking to do a
follow-on event following the success of this event. It would be great to
get more involved with the Swansea store and to get feedback on any contact
you get following this event.

Speak soon,

Richard


On 13 October 2014 11:34, Maplin Electronics Swansea <swansea at maplin.co.uk>
wrote:

>  Hi Richard,
>
> Hope you are well after a busy weekend?
>
> Just wanted to say a massive thank you from Richard and myself for letting
> us attend this weekend. The event was awesome, in fact we cant wait for the
> next one!
>
> We did hand some stock over to one of your members on Saturday for review,
> and if you remember I mentioned we hadn't received all of it as of yet.
> Well just to let you know its now arrived in store. I am not sure if one of
> your members want to pop in and collect it?
>
> Let me know what suits best for you.
>
> Thanks again
>
>
> Carl Neale
> Assistant Manager
> Maplin Electronics LTD
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Oct 14 21:12:32 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:12:32 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] A Mathsless introduction to
	electronics
Message-ID: <1413317552.19049.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

Saturday 18th October, 11am - 3pm
A Mathsless introduction to electronics by Tim Clark

Everything you need to know to get started with electronics, including
the what, why and how for resistors, leds, transistors and more. All
required numbers will be provided free of charge, but you will require
the kit (on sale for ?5), a breadboard and jumper wires. 

We currently don't have spare breadboards and jumper wires for sale, so
if anybody has spares they are willing to lend to people without them it
would be much appreciated if they could bring them along.



From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Tue Oct 14 22:20:21 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:20:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LEDs strip lighting
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Okay - thanks for all the comments and guidance.

In terms of the kit I would need to purchase, I think I need:

- Powersupply to connect to the mains -
- LED driver to connect the lights to the Powersupply - (or this all-in-one
PSU and Driver) http://www.mr-resistor.co.uk/item.aspx?i=11854
- RF remote controller to dim the lights (and change colour if I go RGB LED
strips) - http://www.mr-resistor.co.uk/item.aspx?i=11855
- LED strip lights (11ft lengths of -
http://www.mr-resistor.co.uk/item.aspx?i=11850

Is that it? And what 'ratings' or sizes should I be looking out for...?

And...are there any 'reliable' sources you would suggest I go and look at
to build my shopping list (apart from Mr Resistor!).

Thanks all,

Richard



On 10 October 2014 14:05, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> other consideration is the number of LEDs per meter - if you want to
> consume less power then getting a strip with a lower LED count would save
> power - the trade off would be less light.
>
> Most LED bulbs will have some form of lens to direct the light to an area
> - those LED strips are just that, strips of LEDs with no lens.
>
> I feel their use is best suited to decoration - put a strip behind the
> frame of a painting, above a shelf to light your trinkets below it etc
> rather than lighting a room to a comfortable level of lighting (say to read
> a book) - as a migraine sufferer I wouldn't enjoy sitting in your
> conservatory if you had enough of those strips to light your 'room' without
> any other form of lighting
>
> On 10 October 2014 12:12, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> - The strip you linked to claims 7.2W/m. It?s not clear whether that is
>> the consumption at full (white) brightness.
>> - The white LED strip Ceri linked to claims 0.35W/LED (at full
>> brightness) x 36 LEDs/0.5m x 2  = 25.2W/m
>> - The 60 RGB LEDs/m strip I linked to claims 18W/m (at full brightness)
>>
>> This is still lower than incandescent (60W) and halogen (43W) bulbs.
>> However, I?m thinking you won?t be content with just a 1m strip ;)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerrit
>>
>> PS - Ceri brings up an interesting point regarding colour temperature
>> (listed in Kelvin, not to be confused with the actual temperature of the
>> LED): Some LEDs produce a cooler, more ?energising? white, while other
>> produce a warmer, ?cosier? light
>>
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:44, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Gerit,
>> Talking of the power needs then....I was thinking LEDs would be more cost
>> effective than halogen lighting. And given we're going into the 'darker'
>> months, these will be on for probably 5-6hrs a night every day...
>>
>> Does the fact that I'm looking at going for so many LEDs on strip
>> lighting negate that argument?
>>
>> The 'low profile' of these in that they can just be attached to the
>> existing beams with minimal screwing/drilling, and the lighting coverage
>> and colours/dimming will likely still win the day though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 October 2014 10:10, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The RGB LED light strip that I demoed at the first technical meeting
>>> back in April 2013 (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/20130422)
>>> had 60 LEDs/metre (the slides at that link has all the details).
>>>
>>> I bought them from Adafruit (http://www.adafruit.com/products/1138) and
>>> just noticed you can now buy a mind-boggling 144 LEDs/metre strip (
>>> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1507). It does pull 7A at 5V though.
>>>
>>> Richard, the design of that remote control you linked to looks like a
>>> bit of a rip-off of the Philips LivingColors remote control from 2010:
>>>
>>> http://www.core77.com/blog/featured_items/neocon_2010_video_control_the_color_of_your_room_by_remote__16745.asp
>>>
>>> Philips has been improving on that design in the past 4 years:
>>> http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/6916431PH/livingcolors
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that when using RGB LED light strips, the three LEDs are
>>> turned up to full brightness to give you a white colour, which consumes the
>>> most power.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Gerrit
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 09:43, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I got this:
>>>
>>> http://www.banggood.com/LED-Rigid-Strip-Light-50cm-12V-36-SMD-7020-U-Shape-White-p-909736.html
>>>
>>> from china.
>>>
>>>
>>> Beautiful clean white (not warm white)
>>>
>>> very bright, but they do run warm, but not hot.
>>>
>>> If i remember will bring one tomorrow !!!
>>>
>>> Ceri
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Graham Owens <
>>> grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My father in law has done exactly this, but i am unable to confirm what
>>>> brand he used etc at the moment?  but he regularly tells my wife how bright
>>>> it is (apparently green is much brighter than the others, i spend my time
>>>> making postulations that it is an illusion and their eyes are just more
>>>> sensitive to green light <338.gif>)
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> On 10 October 2014 09:18, Richard Morgan <
>>>> richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a conservatory that requires lighting - it's a bit dark in
>>>>> these Winter months.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking to put LED strips across the roof beams and was wondering
>>>>> about using LED strips but not sure how much light they would give off at a
>>>>> distance though. I also like the RF controller idea for running them and
>>>>> changing brightness / colours...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's about 8.5ft high at the mid-point and I would likely run these up
>>>>> the diagonal beams - about 11ft in length.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.simplelighting.co.uk/products/2M,-Colour-Changing-RGB-30-LED-Tape-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdOySrl94A5MYfcfSsRcnOaTB2iNcbVePy3vAJYcR1FMaAqHp8P8HAQ
>>>>>
>>>>> We would mostly be using the white colour but the option to change it
>>>>> for kids parties etc would be cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a dumb idea? Would they give off enough light at that distance?
>>>>>
>>>>> All suggestions very gratefully received....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct 15 11:13:28 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:13:28 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Proposal: Laser Cutter
Message-ID: <1413368008.28278.36.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

One of the most asked for pieces of equipment, and the last of the 'holy
trinity' of hackspace tools, is a laser cutter, these can be had for a
fairly reasonable amount of money if we are prepared to put a little bit
of work into it, so i have put together the following proposal.



This is a chinese import, the max object size is 300x200mm (more or less
A4), its a 50W CO2 laser which can cut several mm thickness of wood,
plastic, card, leather etc, and etch onto plenty of other materials. It
will not cut metal, that's a whole other league of device.

It will require some adjustments before it will be really useful, at the
minimum we need to add a water tank and air ducting, nothing
complicated. We would also want to replace the electronics with
something more open and standard, which is pretty cheap and
straightforward.

The device itself sells for ?529 including shipping, there are cheaper
versions, but they have either a lower powered laser (slower, less
thickness of cut) or don't have the air-assist cutting head (blows away
smoke and debris from cutting point). We might get hit for some VAT /
Import Duty, but the customs declarations aren't usually the full value.
So total cost, with contingency for taxes, the venting and electronics
is upto around ?700.

Please show you support for this idea and pledge.
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/LaserCutter
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Wed Oct 15 11:32:30 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:32:30 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Proposal: Laser Cutter
In-Reply-To: <1413368008.28278.36.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1413368008.28278.36.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141015113230.19a58191@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

> This is a chinese import, the max object size is 300x200mm (more or less
> A4), its a 50W CO2 laser which can cut several mm thickness of wood,
> plastic, card, leather etc, and etch onto plenty of other materials. It
> will not cut metal, that's a whole other league of device.

Check which plastics it does - a lot of them won't do styrene containing
products as the fumes frost the lenses somewhat irreversibly, vinyls
(gives off highly toxic fumes so needs special venting) or PVC (ditto)

Plenty of good laser cuttable plastics anyway like rowmark which also
doesn't give you blobby melty edges.

> It will require some adjustments before it will be really useful, at the
> minimum we need to add a water tank and air ducting, nothing
> complicated. We would also want to replace the electronics with
> something more open and standard, which is pretty cheap and
> straightforward.


> The device itself sells for ?529 including shipping, there are cheaper
> versions, but they have either a lower powered laser (slower, less
> thickness of cut) or don't have the air-assist cutting head (blows away
> smoke and debris from cutting point). We might get hit for some VAT /
> Import Duty, but the customs declarations aren't usually the full value.
> So total cost, with contingency for taxes, the venting and electronics
> is upto around ?700

And a fire protection system, so there should be a CO2 extinguisher with
it and included in the budget.

Sounds a pretty good price. Does it have CE approval with interlocks, is
it fully enclosed and with safety cut outs sufficient to allow it to be
used in an open space (or does it need to be in a room of its own with the
operator wearing protective glasses). Good excuse for a flashing amber
light on the door 8)

Other big big question - is the laser tube a standard design, can you
source replacements, how much, how long ? The tubes are basically
consumables and quite pricy at the best of times.

The operating cost of a laser cutting is supposed to be ?5/hr.

Alan



From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct 15 12:05:48 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:05:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Proposal: Laser Cutter
In-Reply-To: <20141015113230.19a58191@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
References: <1413368008.28278.36.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<20141015113230.19a58191@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1413371148.28278.58.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 11:32 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > This is a chinese import, the max object size is 300x200mm (more or less
> > A4), its a 50W CO2 laser which can cut several mm thickness of wood,
> > plastic, card, leather etc, and etch onto plenty of other materials. It
> > will not cut metal, that's a whole other league of device.
> 
> Check which plastics it does - a lot of them won't do styrene containing
> products as the fumes frost the lenses somewhat irreversibly, vinyls
> (gives off highly toxic fumes so needs special venting) or PVC (ditto)

Its a CO2 laser, and yes, certain plastics like PVC are best avoided due
to the fumes, we need to add suitable venting to it anyway, wouldn't
want all that smoke in the room, a flexible tube out of the window seems
to be the norm.


> > The device itself sells for ?529 including shipping, there are cheaper
> > versions, but they have either a lower powered laser (slower, less
> > thickness of cut) or don't have the air-assist cutting head (blows away
> > smoke and debris from cutting point). We might get hit for some VAT /
> > Import Duty, but the customs declarations aren't usually the full value.
> > So total cost, with contingency for taxes, the venting and electronics
> > is upto around ?700
> 
> And a fire protection system, so there should be a CO2 extinguisher with
> it and included in the budget.
A quick search says ?20-30 for a 2KG co2 extinguisher.

> Sounds a pretty good price. Does it have CE approval with interlocks, is
> it fully enclosed and with safety cut outs sufficient to allow it to be
> used in an open space (or does it need to be in a room of its own with the
> operator wearing protective glasses). Good excuse for a flashing amber
> light on the door 8)
It claims to be "CE certified and FDA compliant" and a CE sticker is
visible in the photographs, but i would want to run some earthing and
wiring tests on it before allowing general use anyway.

It is a fully enclosed type, the acrylic viewing window is opaque to the
laser light from a CO2 tube. It will be necessary to keep a watch on the
device whilst in operation incase the material catches fire, or theres a
malfunction.

I would expect there to be safety interlocks, not all listings mention
them, and they are not obvious from the photos, if there aren't any then
a lid cut off is first on the list of things to add.


> Other big big question - is the laser tube a standard design, can you
> source replacements, how much, how long ? The tubes are basically
> consumables and quite pricy at the best of times.
The tube is rated for 1000 hours, the guy from reading said that can
vary quite a lot in practice. the tubes appear to be a pretty standard
design, there are lots of places selling replacements, and they cost
upwards of ?150 depending on expected lifespan.
 
> The operating cost of a laser cutting is supposed to be ?5/hr.
Ah yes, i should have mentioned that there would be running costs for
anyone using the cutter, to cover replacing the tube, and eventually
also the various mirrors and lenses in the beam path.

Although this may all sound like a lot of work it is the path than many
other spaces have taken before, and buying a truly turn-key ready system
seems to start at ?3000 or more.



From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Wed Oct 15 13:27:12 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:27:12 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Proposal: Laser Cutter
In-Reply-To: <1413371148.28278.58.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1413368008.28278.36.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<20141015113230.19a58191@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
	<1413371148.28278.58.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141015132712.75ae2124@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

> Its a CO2 laser, and yes, certain plastics like PVC are best avoided due
> to the fumes, we need to add suitable venting to it anyway, wouldn't
> want all that smoke in the room, a flexible tube out of the window seems
> to be the norm.

Even with the tube out of the window you don't want to be cutting PVC 8)
 
> > And a fire protection system, so there should be a CO2 extinguisher with
> > it and included in the budget.
> A quick search says ?20-30 for a 2KG co2 extinguisher.

Seems good - and replacement can be covered by a "twit" charge on whoever
sets it on fire ;)


> > The operating cost of a laser cutting is supposed to be ?5/hr.

> Ah yes, i should have mentioned that there would be running costs for
> anyone using the cutter, to cover replacing the tube, and eventually
> also the various mirrors and lenses in the beam path.

That was the bit I was wondering about 8)

 
> Although this may all sound like a lot of work it is the path than many
> other spaces have taken before, and buying a truly turn-key ready system
> seems to start at ?3000 or more.

And it gives you a device you can control, replace the firmware on and
make rather more useful than the expensive ones.

Alan



From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 09:32:12 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:32:12 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_2Oy5L5pSrHwX0YpXH3znpnARcP9_qdUYJrOEDvEnjTw@mail.gmail.com>

I have a pre-wired thermistor, with just shy of 1M heat proof cable,

and crimped leads, removed from a hot end,

If you want it ???

Its Yours (hackers)

>

If I do manage to get out today, can drop it in.

Ceri
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 16 11:37:10 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:37:10 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS288FAF7AD10FEA8B98B1EC2C6AB0@phx.gbl>

Hey Ceri, good booth at the event.

What temperature range does the thermistor handle?


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:16/10/2014  09:32  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org>,Hackers <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>,Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor </div><div>
</div>
I have a pre-wired thermistor, with just shy of 1M heat proof cable,

and crimped leads, removed from a hot end,

If you want it ???

Its Yours (hackers)

>

If I do manage to get out today, can drop it in.

Ceri
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 11:50:29 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:50:29 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS288FAF7AD10FEA8B98B1EC2C6AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS288FAF7AD10FEA8B98B1EC2C6AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8zNwEboti8y2kabU+NGhfESRE2jiiGViWmQTgwxQtEYw@mail.gmail.com>

I guess the normal range ..

-50 ... 200++ ????

I guess its the standard epcot compatible .

Ceri

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:37 AM, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hey Ceri, good booth at the event.
>
>  What temperature range does the thermistor handle?
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ceri Clatworthy
> Date:16/10/2014 09:32 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Tim Clark ,Hackers  ,Justin Mitchell
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor
>
>   I have a pre-wired thermistor, with just shy of 1M heat proof cable,
>
>  and crimped leads, removed from a hot end,
>
>  If you want it ???
>
>  Its Yours (hackers)
>
>  >
>
>  If I do manage to get out today, can drop it in.
>
>  Ceri
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 20:14:41 2014
From: testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com (Pie)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:14:41 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Photos of SWAMP
Message-ID: <CAFcreVLXtXqnTkobhJCxK_Qjs4+sZpg9XuzT7mpeo-gy8Db=Mw@mail.gmail.com>

Where can I find the pictures taken last weekend at SWAMP?

Thank you.
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 08:56:02 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:56:02 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8zNwEboti8y2kabU+NGhfESRE2jiiGViWmQTgwxQtEYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS288FAF7AD10FEA8B98B1EC2C6AB0@phx.gbl>
	<CAO=DJn8zNwEboti8y2kabU+NGhfESRE2jiiGViWmQTgwxQtEYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-0HSRbHcZBUoQ7Y1HkNFaGeBJynuaSc31rxLOO+7gmEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Details

   - Glass Encapsulated for Long Term Stability & Reliability
   - Manufacturer: Epcos
   - Part no: B57560G104F000
   - Small Size: ?1.25mm?2.0mm
   - High Resistance Accuracy: 1%
   - Wide Temp. Range: ?40?C to 270?C
   - Thermal Time Constant:6s?in still air?
   - 100 % Lead (Pb)-free and RoHS Compliant
   - Nominal Resistance @ 25?C: 100K ? 1%
   - B Value @ 25?C /50?C: 3950K ? 1%
   - Dissipation Factor: ? 1.0mW/?C

Farnell: 3878697

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/102485.pdf


On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I guess the normal range ..
>
> -50 ... 200++ ????
>
> I guess its the standard epcot compatible .
>
> Ceri
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:37 AM, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Hey Ceri, good booth at the event.
>>
>>  What temperature range does the thermistor handle?
>>
>>
>>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Ceri Clatworthy
>> Date:16/10/2014 09:32 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: Tim Clark ,Hackers  ,Justin Mitchell
>> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermistor
>>
>>   I have a pre-wired thermistor, with just shy of 1M heat proof cable,
>>
>>  and crimped leads, removed from a hot end,
>>
>>  If you want it ???
>>
>>  Its Yours (hackers)
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  If I do manage to get out today, can drop it in.
>>
>>  Ceri
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 17 11:09:40 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:09:40 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Solar night light
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS35599BCB103B2DBDCF5990C6A80@phx.gbl>

Hi guys, I'll be in from about 10:15 tomorrow to about 15:00 (apart from nipping out to get sprog between 13:30 to 14:00

My wife and I have been talking about getting Lily some kind of night light as she is now a little affraid of the dark, 6 years on sleeping in the dark and now she gets affraid.

Anyway, I don't want a mains powered lampnear her bed, I know 12v is an option but where's the fun in just biying something.

Battery powered would be good but I don't want to keep changing or charging batteries...

Last night we decided I would get one or two ?solar garden lights from the poundshop, one white for light and maybe a colourfull dragonfly type and run a wire and split the pannel and light so it could charge up automatically in the day rather than having to take it down and put it in the window.

I thought I best as the hive mind, what would be best...

Extend the pannel away from the main body and circuitry?

Or

Keep pannel and circuitry close and extend the LED?

Ps could we add some 8 core alarm cable to the inventory for us to purchase by the meter?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251657903694&alt=web

The above 100m works out at 15p per meter to buy in, I sure most would be happy to pay 30-50p per meter for when the 30cm 5 core scraps I bring in are not good enough.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 15:00:16 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:00:16 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Solar night light
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS35599BCB103B2DBDCF5990C6A80@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS35599BCB103B2DBDCF5990C6A80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-LeEFJhfMtQP0PA7ybTfKG1qKGaSi2LhBYN2jp7ZEpKQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you only want a short piece of 6/8 core then dead CAT 5 cable is best..

either stranded, or solid ?

Ceri

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys, I'll be in from about 10:15 tomorrow to about 15:00 (apart from
> nipping out to get sprog between 13:30 to 14:00
>
> My wife and I have been talking about getting Lily some kind of night
> light as she is now a little affraid of the dark, 6 years on sleeping in
> the dark and now she gets affraid.
>
> Anyway, I don't want a mains powered lampnear her bed, I know 12v is an
> option but where's the fun in just biying something.
>
> Battery powered would be good but I don't want to keep changing or
> charging batteries...
>
> Last night we decided I would get one or two  solar garden lights from the
> poundshop, one white for light and maybe a colourfull dragonfly type and
> run a wire and split the pannel and light so it could charge up
> automatically in the day rather than having to take it down and put it in
> the window.
>
> I thought I best as the hive mind, what would be best...
>
> Extend the pannel away from the main body and circuitry?
>
> Or
>
> Keep pannel and circuitry close and extend the LED?
>
> Ps could we add some 8 core alarm cable to the inventory for us to
> purchase by the meter?
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251657903694&alt=web
>
> The above 100m works out at 15p per meter to buy in, I sure most would be
> happy to pay 30-50p per meter for when the 30cm 5 core scraps I bring in
> are not good enough.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 17 15:58:18 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:58:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Solar night light
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS3907CE34CBD15642984E632C6A80@phx.gbl>

I've always found that stranded works the best for stripping to terminate, solid tends to snap where it was stripped.

Are you in tomorrow?



No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:17/10/2014  15:01  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Solar night light </div><div>
</div>
If you only want a short piece of 6/8 core then dead CAT 5 cable is best..

either stranded, or solid ?

Ceri

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys, I'll be in from about 10:15 tomorrow to about 15:00 (apart from
> nipping out to get sprog between 13:30 to 14:00
>
> My wife and I have been talking about getting Lily some kind of night
> light as she is now a little affraid of the dark, 6 years on sleeping in
> the dark and now she gets affraid.
>
> Anyway, I don't want a mains powered lampnear her bed, I know 12v is an
> option but where's the fun in just biying something.
>
> Battery powered would be good but I don't want to keep changing or
> charging batteries...
>
> Last night we decided I would get one or two  solar garden lights from the
> poundshop, one white for light and maybe a colourfull dragonfly type and
> run a wire and split the pannel and light so it could charge up
> automatically in the day rather than having to take it down and put it in
> the window.
>
> I thought I best as the hive mind, what would be best...
>
> Extend the pannel away from the main body and circuitry?
>
> Or
>
> Keep pannel and circuitry close and extend the LED?
>
> Ps could we add some 8 core alarm cable to the inventory for us to
> purchase by the meter?
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251657903694&alt=web
>
> The above 100m works out at 15p per meter to buy in, I sure most would be
> happy to pay 30-50p per meter for when the 30cm 5 core scraps I bring in
> are not good enough.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Fri Oct 17 21:41:57 2014
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:41:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Solar night light
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS3907CE34CBD15642984E632C6A80@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS3907CE34CBD15642984E632C6A80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvA7Lf=+ZA0HXRvj80dNxWrBTcE5hziUap-eLChzLOdaGw@mail.gmail.com>

That sounds like a great project - can't wait to see the results.


On Friday, October 17, 2014, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I've always found that stranded works the best for stripping to
> terminate, solid tends to snap where it was stripped.
>
>  Are you in tomorrow?
>
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ceri Clatworthy
> Date:17/10/2014 15:01 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Solar night light
>
>   If you only want a short piece of 6/8 core then dead CAT 5 cable is
> best..
>
>  either stranded, or solid ?
>
>  Ceri
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>  Hi guys, I'll be in from about 10:15 tomorrow to about 15:00 (apart from
> nipping out to get sprog between 13:30 to 14:00
>
>  My wife and I have been talking about getting Lily some kind of night
> light as she is now a little affraid of the dark, 6 years on sleeping in
> the dark and now she gets affraid.
>
>  Anyway, I don't want a mains powered lampnear her bed, I know 12v is an
> option but where's the fun in just biying something.
>
>  Battery powered would be good but I don't want to keep changing or
> charging batteries...
>
>  Last night we decided I would get one or two  solar garden lights from
> the poundshop, one white for light and maybe a colourfull dragonfly type
> and run a wire and split the pannel and light so it could charge up
> automatically in the day rather than having to take it down and put it in
> the window.
>
>  I thought I best as the hive mind, what would be best...
>
>  Extend the pannel away from the main body and circuitry?
>
>  Or
>
>  Keep pannel and circuitry close and extend the LED?
>
>  Ps could we add some 8 core alarm cable to the inventory for us to
> purchase by the meter?
>
>  http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251657903694&alt=web
>
>  The above 100m works out at 15p per meter to buy in, I sure most would
> be happy to pay 30-50p per meter for when the 30cm 5 core scraps I bring in
> are not good enough.
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Oct 18 12:51:56 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:51:56 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3D Printing Workshop - Halloween
	Special
Message-ID: <1413633116.6579.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

Sat 25th Oct 2014
3D Printing Workshop - Halloween Special

3D Design and Printing session with a Halloween theme, suitable grownups
and children of all ages, with glow-in-the-dark green, pumpkin orange,
and batty black filament.



From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 14:53:02 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:53:02 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,

I have found:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345

?66 for 10

?6 each !!

I want 4-5 for my next printer,

Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed
for good positioning.

Cheers


Ceri
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 15:05:58 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:05:58 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62C95801-CFE8-496A-8CCD-E5C3AE97D632@gmail.com>

Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper motors:
http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html <http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html>

Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment off eBay :(

> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
> 
> I have found:
> 
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345 <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345>
> 
> ?66 for 10
> 
> ?6 each !!
> 
> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
> 
> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed for good positioning.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Ceri
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 20 15:14:02 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:14:02 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS3358E9DAA4DB107F7F42E8C6970@phx.gbl>

Could your grant allow you to buy them from hackspace?


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:20/10/2014  15:06  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors </div><div>
</div>
Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper motors:
http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html <http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html>

Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment off eBay :(

> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>
> I have found:
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345 <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345>
>
> ?66 for 10
>
> ?6 each !!
>
> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>
> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed for good positioning.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Ceri
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 15:16:21 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:16:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS3358E9DAA4DB107F7F42E8C6970@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS3358E9DAA4DB107F7F42E8C6970@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C0BDD62-6267-4375-806A-FB26901E2BC2@gmail.com>

I?m a bit concerned that could be viewed as a conflict of interest (being a director of the hackspace, even though we?re a non-profit). Not too sure about the rules though.

> On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:14, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Could your grant allow you to buy them from hackspace?
> 
> 
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Gerrit Niezen
> Date:20/10/2014 15:06 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
> 
> Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper motors:
> http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html <http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html>
> 
> Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment off eBay :(
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com <mailto:ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>> 
>> I have found:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345 <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345>
>> 
>> ?66 for 10
>> 
>> ?6 each !!
>> 
>> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>> 
>> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed for good positioning.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Ceri
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Mon Oct 20 15:20:14 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:20:14 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54451A1E.2060006@aurinia.co.uk>


On 20/10/14 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>
> I have found:
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345
>
> ?66 for 10
>
> ?6 each !!
>
> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>
> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is 
> needed for good positioning.
>
> Cheer
>
> Ceri
>
Look at the feedback! There are lots of negative feedback items about 
stepper motors.
In English and in German  like Artikel ist defekt, mehr brummen als 
sanftes Laufen"
="Item is defective there is more  buzzing than running smoothly"
There are also people complaining it is actually shipped fro Hong Kong.

Neil
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 20 15:26:57 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:26:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS2242FE5489574D139458466C6970@phx.gbl>

I see the concern, not sure what to think there.

I'm sure others who would not want 10 motors would buy the rest, I know I could not afford to buy 10 in one go myself.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:20/10/2014  15:16  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors </div><div>
</div>
I?m a bit concerned that could be viewed as a conflict of interest (being a director of the hackspace, even though we?re a non-profit). Not too sure about the rules though.

> On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:14, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Could your grant allow you to buy them from hackspace?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Gerrit Niezen
> Date:20/10/2014 15:06 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
>
> Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper motors:
> http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html <http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html>
>
> Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment off eBay :(
>
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com <mailto:ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>>
>> I have found:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345 <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345>
>>
>> ?66 for 10
>>
>> ?6 each !!
>>
>> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>>
>> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed for good positioning.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Ceri
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Oct 20 16:08:51 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:08:51 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
In-Reply-To: <62C95801-CFE8-496A-8CCD-E5C3AE97D632@gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<62C95801-CFE8-496A-8CCD-E5C3AE97D632@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7O7CfFHFTs5udcCc1h+4b7VwtNM3AZnX68fPhmrwXZYqg@mail.gmail.com>

They don't have the same number of steps per rev as yours! ;-)



On Monday, 20 October 2014, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper
> motors:
> http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html
>
> Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment
> off eBay :(
>
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>
> I have found:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345
>
> ?66 for 10
>
> ?6 each !!
>
> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>
> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed
> for good positioning.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Ceri
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>

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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 16:14:33 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:14:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7O7CfFHFTs5udcCc1h+4b7VwtNM3AZnX68fPhmrwXZYqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<62C95801-CFE8-496A-8CCD-E5C3AE97D632@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7O7CfFHFTs5udcCc1h+4b7VwtNM3AZnX68fPhmrwXZYqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_AYtMVbwrvAysoGX0XH5gqXky7ShaOFNPOhP+VXZVVSw@mail.gmail.com>

200 Stepps is standard
400 Stepps is hi resolution
On 20 Oct 2014 16:09, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> They don't have the same number of steps per rev as yours! ;-)
>
>
>
> On Monday, 20 October 2014, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper
>> motors:
>> http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html
>>
>> Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy
>> equipment off eBay :(
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>>
>> I have found:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345
>>
>> ?66 for 10
>>
>> ?6 each !!
>>
>> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>>
>> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed
>> for good positioning.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Ceri
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Oct 20 16:28:15 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:28:15 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_AYtMVbwrvAysoGX0XH5gqXky7ShaOFNPOhP+VXZVVSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-tJEP94NM-0idn-r-Be4kz1XX1j3rQWt0g3sjhkupcCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<62C95801-CFE8-496A-8CCD-E5C3AE97D632@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7O7CfFHFTs5udcCc1h+4b7VwtNM3AZnX68fPhmrwXZYqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_AYtMVbwrvAysoGX0XH5gqXky7ShaOFNPOhP+VXZVVSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <544529ff.c6eec20a.6eba.3ebf@mx.google.com>

If noone else is interested, I'll go halfers with you Ceri, but it would have to be on/after 28th as that's when I get paid. 5 motors each?   I'm not fussed about the feedback, buzzing motor usually means bad config.  Look at the Gerrit's motor, and he sorted that, was just configured wrong when we had the attempt at it.  I believe its working fine now since he looked at it again?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
Sent: ?20/?10/?2014 16:14
To: "Hackers" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors

200 Stepps is standard 
400 Stepps is hi resolution 
On 20 Oct 2014 16:09, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:

They don't have the same number of steps per rev as yours! ;-)




On Monday, 20 October 2014, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper motors:
http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html


Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment off eBay :(


On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:


Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,


I have found:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345



?66 for 10


?6 each !!


I want 4-5 for my next printer,


Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed for good positioning.


Cheers




Ceri
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 16:33:27 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:33:27 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
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Yes, buzzing motor in my case meant the current limiting on the stepper motor driver was configured incorrectly, meaning it required a higher voltage and current to run than what was expected.

> On 20 Oct 2014, at 16:28, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> If noone else is interested, I'll go halfers with you Ceri, but it would have to be on/after 28th as that's when I get paid. 5 motors each?   I'm not fussed about the feedback, buzzing motor usually means bad config.  Look at the Gerrit's motor, and he sorted that, was just configured wrong when we had the attempt at it.  I believe its working fine now since he looked at it again?
> From: Ceri Clatworthy <mailto:ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> Sent: ?20/?10/?2014 16:14
> To: Hackers <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
> 
> 200 Stepps is standard 
> 400 Stepps is hi resolution
> 
> On 20 Oct 2014 16:09, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com <mailto:em at preseli.com>> wrote:
> They don't have the same number of steps per rev as yours! ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, 20 October 2014, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com <mailto:gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper motors:
> http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html <http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html>
> 
> Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy equipment off eBay :(
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com <>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>> 
>> I have found:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345 <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345>
>> 
>> ?66 for 10
>> 
>> ?6 each !!
>> 
>> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>> 
>> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed for good positioning.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Ceri
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>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Oct 20 20:12:19 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:12:19 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stepper Motors
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	<62C95801-CFE8-496A-8CCD-E5C3AE97D632@gmail.com>
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The ;-) implied I was trying to make him feel better!

On Monday, 20 October 2014, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> 200 Stepps is standard
> 400 Stepps is hi resolution
> On 20 Oct 2014 16:09, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
>> They don't have the same number of steps per rev as yours! ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 20 October 2014, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gerrit.niezen at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, that?s a third of what I?m currently paying for NEMA 17 stepper
>>> motors:
>>> http://www.technobotsonline.com/stepper-motor-48n-cm-400-steps-rev.html
>>>
>>> Unfortunately my little university grant doesn?t allow me to buy
>>> equipment off eBay :(
>>>
>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in getting some stepper motors,
>>>
>>> I have found:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Promition-nema17-stepper-motor-48z-in-1-7A-RepRap-DIY-3D-Printer-CNC-machinery-/321307263813?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4acf67c345
>>>
>>> ?66 for 10
>>>
>>> ?6 each !!
>>>
>>> I want 4-5 for my next printer,
>>>
>>> Any one found a better deal - I am fairly sure more than 1 Amp is needed
>>> for good positioning.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Ceri
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Thu Oct 23 02:05:06 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:05:06 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
Message-ID: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>

Hi guys (gender neutral version)

I have a query, and hoped one of you could help me out.

Short version:
How to install a local DNS server on a raspberry pi for use at home, dhcp would be nice too but not essential.  How to route a dns enquiry to a local server.

Long version:
I bought a weather station (?39 reduced from ?199) made by oregon scientific.  Have read the reviews and it seems to boil down to this:  the hardware is okay, gets the job done etc, but it has no local output, it ONLY connects to oregon's servers, then the user can view the data with an phone app, or online in a webbrowser.  The problem, oregons servers are CRAP, and thats as polite as i can be about them.  They go down for WEEKS at a time, during which the user cannot obtain any info from their own weather station, and it is not cached locally waiting for a connection either the data is just GONE.  There is just no weather during these outages.

the plan:
Install raspberry pi with dns server.  Point dns requests for the oregon server back to the pi.  Install a LAMP config on the pi.  Use wireshark to work out whats going back and forward, write a php script on the pi to grab the data locally, and if i can be bothered forward it to oregon.
Store the data locally, uploading to my real online server in 10minute batches, including any cached data stored while waiting for connectivity.  

Profit.

Am i going about this all wrong?  I have seen people binning these weather stations because they are so unreliable at connecting with oregons servers, but i havnt seen this attempted yet with it.  Plus whats not to like about having a local dns server that i can reroute.

Thanks

G


www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

? 3:33? 3:33Best Regard
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From jon at gittoes.org  Thu Oct 23 03:34:48 2014
From: jon at gittoes.org (Jon Gittoes)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:34:48 +0800
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
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References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
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Hi Graham,

Sounds fairly straight forward.

I suggest dnsmasq, its small, light and will allow you to put in your own
entries for certain servers ie the Oregon ones.

If you need more control over the DNS then powerdns is a better option as
it allows you to plugin your own custom back ends, but its probably
overkill for your project.

Good luck

Jon
On 23 Oct 2014 02:05, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys (gender neutral version)
>
> I have a query, and hoped one of you could help me out.
>
> Short version:
> How to install a local DNS server on a raspberry pi for use at home, dhcp
> would be nice too but not essential.  How to route a dns enquiry to a local
> server.
>
> Long version:
> I bought a weather station (?39 reduced from ?199) made by oregon
> scientific.  Have read the reviews and it seems to boil down to this:  the
> hardware is okay, gets the job done etc, but it has no local output, it
> ONLY connects to oregon's servers, then the user can view the data with an
> phone app, or online in a webbrowser.  The problem, oregons servers are
> CRAP, and thats as polite as i can be about them.  They go down for WEEKS
> at a time, during which the user cannot obtain any info from their own
> weather station, and it is not cached locally waiting for a connection
> either the data is just GONE.  There is just no weather during these
> outages.
>
> the plan:
> Install raspberry pi with dns server.  Point dns requests for the oregon
> server back to the pi.  Install a LAMP config on the pi.  Use wireshark to
> work out whats going back and forward, write a php script on the pi to grab
> the data locally, and if i can be bothered forward it to oregon.
> Store the data locally, uploading to my real online server in 10minute
> batches, including any cached data stored while waiting for connectivity.
>
> Profit.
>
> Am i going about this all wrong?  I have seen people binning these weather
> stations because they are so unreliable at connecting with oregons servers,
> but i havnt seen this attempted yet with it.  Plus whats not to like about
> having a local dns server that i can reroute.
>
> Thanks
>
> G
>
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
>
> ? 3:33? 3:33 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>Best Regard
>
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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Thu Oct 23 07:56:33 2014
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 07:56:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
In-Reply-To: <CAOm8E49hc4Nc2RXp9zKjfxq+AEd7JhbG10QmG84aqvM_2NFkFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
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Hi both,

I use tinydns https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=sjtIVPXLDcSq8wedyoLoDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=tinydns

Really flexible, configurable and lightweight.

? Paul

On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:34, Jon Gittoes <jon at gittoes.org> wrote:

> Hi Graham,
> 
> Sounds fairly straight forward.
> 
> I suggest dnsmasq, its small, light and will allow you to put in your own entries for certain servers ie the Oregon ones.
> 
> If you need more control over the DNS then powerdns is a better option as it allows you to plugin your own custom back ends, but its probably overkill for your project.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Jon
> 
> On 23 Oct 2014 02:05, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys (gender neutral version)
> 
> I have a query, and hoped one of you could help me out.
> 
> Short version:
> How to install a local DNS server on a raspberry pi for use at home, dhcp would be nice too but not essential.  How to route a dns enquiry to a local server.
> 
> Long version:
> I bought a weather station (?39 reduced from ?199) made by oregon scientific.  Have read the reviews and it seems to boil down to this:  the hardware is okay, gets the job done etc, but it has no local output, it ONLY connects to oregon's servers, then the user can view the data with an phone app, or online in a webbrowser.  The problem, oregons servers are CRAP, and thats as polite as i can be about them.  They go down for WEEKS at a time, during which the user cannot obtain any info from their own weather station, and it is not cached locally waiting for a connection either the data is just GONE.  There is just no weather during these outages.
> 
> the plan:
> Install raspberry pi with dns server.  Point dns requests for the oregon server back to the pi.  Install a LAMP config on the pi.  Use wireshark to work out whats going back and forward, write a php script on the pi to grab the data locally, and if i can be bothered forward it to oregon.
> Store the data locally, uploading to my real online server in 10minute batches, including any cached data stored while waiting for connectivity.  
> 
> Profit.
> 
> Am i going about this all wrong?  I have seen people binning these weather stations because they are so unreliable at connecting with oregons servers, but i havnt seen this attempted yet with it.  Plus whats not to like about having a local dns server that i can reroute.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> G
> 
> 
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
> 
> ? 3:33? 3:33Best Regard
> 
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 10:43:07 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:43:07 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
In-Reply-To: <AC11CAB8-F3CE-4798-A26C-FDCD00D46983@harwood-leon.com>
References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
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	<AC11CAB8-F3CE-4798-A26C-FDCD00D46983@harwood-leon.com>
Message-ID: <5448CDAB.7030009@gmail.com>

On 23/10/2014 07:56, Paul Harwood wrote:
> Hi both,
>
> I use tinydns 
> https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=sjtIVPXLDcSq8wedyoLoDw&gws_rd=ssl#q=tinydns
>
> Really flexible, configurable and lightweight.
>
> ? Paul
>
> On 23 Oct 2014, at 03:34, Jon Gittoes <jon at gittoes.org 
> <mailto:jon at gittoes.org>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Graham,
>>
>> Sounds fairly straight forward.
>>
>> I suggest dnsmasq, its small, light and will allow you to put in your 
>> own entries for certain servers ie the Oregon ones.
>>
>> If you need more control over the DNS then powerdns is a better 
>> option as it allows you to plugin your own custom back ends, but its 
>> probably overkill for your project.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On 23 Oct 2014 02:05, "Graham Owens" <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com 
>> <mailto:grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi guys (gender neutral version)
>>
>>     I have a query, and hoped one of you could help me out.
>>
>>     Short version:
>>     How to install a local DNS server on a raspberry pi for use at
>>     home, dhcp would be nice too but not essential.  How to route a
>>     dns enquiry to a local server.
>>
>>     Long version:
>>     I bought a weather station (?39 reduced from ?199) made by oregon
>>     scientific.  Have read the reviews and it seems to boil down to
>>     this:  the hardware is okay, gets the job done etc, but it has no
>>     local output, it ONLY connects to oregon's servers, then the user
>>     can view the data with an phone app, or online in a webbrowser. 
>>     The problem, oregons servers are CRAP, and thats as polite as i
>>     can be about them.  They go down for WEEKS at a time, during
>>     which the user cannot obtain any info from their own weather
>>     station, and it is not cached locally waiting for a connection
>>     either the data is just GONE.  There is just no weather during
>>     these outages.
>>
>>     the plan:
>>     Install raspberry pi with dns server.  Point dns requests for the
>>     oregon server back to the pi. Install a LAMP config on the pi. 
>>     Use wireshark to work out whats going back and forward, write a
>>     php script on the pi to grab the data locally, and if i can be
>>     bothered forward it to oregon.
>>     Store the data locally, uploading to my real online server in
>>     10minute batches, including any cached data stored while waiting
>>     for connectivity.
>>
>>     Profit.
>>
>>     Am i going about this all wrong?  I have seen people binning
>>     these weather stations because they are so unreliable at
>>     connecting with oregons servers, but i havnt seen this attempted
>>     yet with it.  Plus whats not to like about having a local dns
>>     server that i can reroute.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     G
>>
>>
>>     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
>>     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>
>>
>>     ? 3:33? 3:33 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>Best Regard
>>
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Hi,
Im not sure but I remember some posts before about the maplin weather 
station and people saying it was a rebranded Watson one.

while tinkering with my one (on a windows box) I also learnt about 
cumulus software
http://sandaysoft.com/products/cumulus

which works with the Oregon stuff and

this piece of wierdness

http://www.weather-display.com/index.php

both are mentioned in this review of the maplins one by the frequency 
cast guys

http://www.frequencycast.co.uk/weatherstations.html
which also supports some oregons

so carry on with the raspberry pi sketch but these may be useful too.
oh and if someone actually gets/reads this, can you send a reply has I 
havent had one to an email for months so I dont know if my email still 
works there.

k
ciao
Ian
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 11:08:08 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:08:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
In-Reply-To: <5448CDAB.7030009@gmail.com>
References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
	<CAOm8E49hc4Nc2RXp9zKjfxq+AEd7JhbG10QmG84aqvM_2NFkFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AC11CAB8-F3CE-4798-A26C-FDCD00D46983@harwood-leon.com>
	<5448CDAB.7030009@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5448D388.6050801@gmail.com>

oh!
and weatherstation actually has a raspberry pi version!
how handy -console version

http://www.weather-display.com/files.php

http://www.weather-display.com/downloadfiles/consolewdpi.tar.gz
to be precise :)

how handy.
he's a dairy or sheep farmer in NZ.
but he may send you a helpful email if you ask him.
as hes obviously quite into it


From em at preseli.com  Thu Oct 23 11:06:17 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:06:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
In-Reply-To: <5448D388.6050801@gmail.com>
References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
	<CAOm8E49hc4Nc2RXp9zKjfxq+AEd7JhbG10QmG84aqvM_2NFkFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AC11CAB8-F3CE-4798-A26C-FDCD00D46983@harwood-leon.com>
	<5448CDAB.7030009@gmail.com> <5448D388.6050801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Mk=XK2M3wu03rVCKO9LtR47ZuU0Xh1Vf+BOq0OWGrj2g@mail.gmail.com>

wonderful idea Graham

Got your transmission Ian

great shield out there for the Pi for weather - simply use your existing
instruments and ditch the oregon mothership

Good luck



On 23 October 2014 11:08, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> oh!
> and weatherstation actually has a raspberry pi version!
> how handy -console version
>
> http://www.weather-display.com/files.php
>
> http://www.weather-display.com/downloadfiles/consolewdpi.tar.gz
> to be precise :)
>
> how handy.
> he's a dairy or sheep farmer in NZ.
> but he may send you a helpful email if you ask him.
> as hes obviously quite into it
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 11:15:00 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:15:00 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
In-Reply-To: <5448D388.6050801@gmail.com>
References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
	<CAOm8E49hc4Nc2RXp9zKjfxq+AEd7JhbG10QmG84aqvM_2NFkFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AC11CAB8-F3CE-4798-A26C-FDCD00D46983@harwood-leon.com>
	<5448CDAB.7030009@gmail.com> <5448D388.6050801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5448D524.4050002@gmail.com>

ah, all good!
I got a reply, it still works.
cheers for that Emyr,
catch you all in a bit
ciao


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Oct 23 11:40:57 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:40:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry pi dns server
In-Reply-To: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
References: <4BA76D33-DCE5-4238-9C0D-7AECCDFD747C@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <1414060857.27109.9.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 02:05 +0100, Graham Owens wrote:

> Short version:
> How to install a local DNS server on a raspberry pi for use at home,
> dhcp would be nice too but not essential.  How to route a dns enquiry
> to a local server.

DNS server isnt that hard once you understand what records should be int
he zone files, distros will come with a selection, bind/named at the
least plus some others, theres usually a couple of example zone files
and a default config. If you get an option you will want to setup a
caching-nameserver plus a master zone for the one your overriding.

Making stuff use that nameserver is usually just putting its ip address
in your DHCP server config, many people have their broadband router be
their dhcp server so look in its config.

> Have read the reviews and it seems to boil down to this:  the hardware
> is okay, gets the job done etc, but it has no local output, it ONLY
> connects to oregon's servers, then the user can view the data with an
> phone app, or online in a webbrowser.

If it is well behaved, then it will use dhcp, get the nameserver entry,
and lookup the domain to submit its data to, which is where your plan
should work fine.

If it isnt well behaved, if it has hardcoded an IP addres to connect to
or something, then you will need to intercept the traffic, and
ultimately pretend to be the relevant address etc.

One of the more obvious ways to do this would be with a linux box with
two ethernet ports, configured to be a (probably NAT) router, plenty of
guides online how to do this.

That way ALL the traffic from the weather station can be monitored,
analysed, and eventually intercepted and pointed at your own scripts.
 




From em at preseli.com  Sat Oct 25 21:06:44 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:06:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RC522 RFID module from China...
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NhT=SvkEsXXCxjM8U5-G86Eqz0JMY7AOBCjWA4wzr-Dw@mail.gmail.com>

well, I mentioned a few weeks ago at 'the space' that I was waiting for one
of those dead cheep RFID modules from China.

Well, it has finally arrived and I have been reading up on it and playing
with it a bit.

Masses of leg work has been done by the community, no surprise there, and
here is a link to some of the fruit of the labour

http://playground.arduino.cc/Learning/MFRC522

and a useful Arduino library here

https://github.com/miguelbalboa/rfid

Concerns were voiced at 'the space' that the module is 3.3V

Power must be sent to it from the Arduino 3.3V pin - and the consensus
online is that the unit is 5V tolerant - so far mine has worked fine
without using a level converting dooffer.

Now somebody has shared a SDK for the ESP8266 wifi module I might just
place an order for a handful of those next!

Em
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sat Oct 25 23:00:52 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:00:52 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RC522 RFID module from China...
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NhT=SvkEsXXCxjM8U5-G86Eqz0JMY7AOBCjWA4wzr-Dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7NhT=SvkEsXXCxjM8U5-G86Eqz0JMY7AOBCjWA4wzr-Dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1414274452.18805.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 21:06 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> well, I mentioned a few weeks ago at 'the space' that I was waiting
> for one of those dead cheep RFID modules from China.

> http://playground.arduino.cc/Learning/MFRC522

> 
> 
> Concerns were voiced at 'the space' that the module is 3.3V
> 
> 
> Power must be sent to it from the Arduino 3.3V pin - and the consensus
> online is that the unit is 5V tolerant - so far mine has worked fine
> without using a level converting dooffer.

I had wondered this, as there are mixed reports of wether it was 5v
tolerant or not, looking up the datasheet for the NXP chip that is
definitely not 5v tolerant, the max input voltages for the input pins
are quite clearly below that (Vdd + 0.5V)

But there are rather a lot of resistors on the board, hard to tell
exactly what they are all for so it might be, but when the level
converter boards are so cheap i haven't risked it.






From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 26 12:47:17 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:47:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RC522 RFID module from China...
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS84D5464AF5010BC9939E1CC6910@phx.gbl>

I have on of the ESP modules currently on its way from china if you want to play with ot first.

I started playing with RFID tags using my Galaxy Note3, turns out the mifare, myflare? Are not compatible with a lot of mobiles.


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:25/10/2014  21:07  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RC522 RFID module from China... </div><div>
</div>
well, I mentioned a few weeks ago at 'the space' that I was waiting for one
of those dead cheep RFID modules from China.

Well, it has finally arrived and I have been reading up on it and playing
with it a bit.

Masses of leg work has been done by the community, no surprise there, and
here is a link to some of the fruit of the labour

http://playground.arduino.cc/Learning/MFRC522

and a useful Arduino library here

https://github.com/miguelbalboa/rfid

Concerns were voiced at 'the space' that the module is 3.3V

Power must be sent to it from the Arduino 3.3V pin - and the consensus
online is that the unit is 5V tolerant - so far mine has worked fine
without using a level converting dooffer.

Now somebody has shared a SDK for the ESP8266 wifi module I might just
place an order for a handful of those next!

Em
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 26 12:49:11 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:49:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>

Anyone seen this project on the web?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pi-top-a-raspberry-pi-laptop-you-build-yourself#description


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sun Oct 26 13:29:02 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:29:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RC522 RFID module from China...
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS84D5464AF5010BC9939E1CC6910@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS84D5464AF5010BC9939E1CC6910@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1414330142.19333.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 12:47 +0000, djdavies83 wrote:

> I started playing with RFID tags using my Galaxy Note3, turns out the
> mifare, myflare? Are not compatible with a lot of mobiles.

Yes RFID != NFC, there is a big overlap, but they are not strictly the
same.

Mifare is a proprietary (NXP) standard within the ISO14443 standard
NFC is a different standard within ISO14443

Mobile phones have NFC support, some of them use chips made by NXP to do
this, which means they also support the mifare standard. Phones/devices
that get the NFC support from Broadcom or others do not support it.

btw Mifare is the basis of oystercard, the dutch chipkaart, and many
many other transport and door access systems around the world.

Hope that clarifies things for you :)




From em at preseli.com  Sun Oct 26 19:29:46 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:29:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RC522 RFID module from China...
In-Reply-To: <1414330142.19333.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <DUB402-EAS84D5464AF5010BC9939E1CC6910@phx.gbl>
	<1414330142.19333.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7M0sSeaJw=PKdgzU9k3i6ToYHd6ZUHDpFn=QcyDGXwhEQ@mail.gmail.com>

The RC552 support ISO1443-A (The Mifare Classic)

All your bank cards / Oyster are 14443-B

The RC552 does not support 14443-B!

Testing here with a HTC Android NFC enabled phone - the HTC reads both
14443-A and the 14443-B cards - it obviously does not have the keys to read
the encrypted data on the debit/credit/oyster cards

Em

On 26 October 2014 13:29, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 12:47 +0000, djdavies83 wrote:
>
> > I started playing with RFID tags using my Galaxy Note3, turns out the
> > mifare, myflare? Are not compatible with a lot of mobiles.
>
> Yes RFID != NFC, there is a big overlap, but they are not strictly the
> same.
>
> Mifare is a proprietary (NXP) standard within the ISO14443 standard
> NFC is a different standard within ISO14443
>
> Mobile phones have NFC support, some of them use chips made by NXP to do
> this, which means they also support the mifare standard. Phones/devices
> that get the NFC support from Broadcom or others do not support it.
>
> btw Mifare is the basis of oystercard, the dutch chipkaart, and many
> many other transport and door access systems around the world.
>
> Hope that clarifies things for you :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 00:13:20 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:13:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>

Well, I just got my raspberry Pi I inherited from someone working 
yesterday via Noobs and Raspbian!
oh yes!
and have been sticking things in a bag for it, tiny mouse, keyboard etc etc.
So a bit excited :)

and Yeah ive heard of this project, seen it, but not seen this page, 
didnt realise it was going for funding etc, id seen it many months ago.

but the website! sheesh!
Im connected via my phone to browse.
i only get 500MB data a month.
thats about 16.8 MB a day.
.....this site sucked over 13, without any videos runnning, before I had 
to pull the plug on my connection and bin it.
so,
ill check the rest out again :)

and yeah, Im quite interested in teh Pi, if anyone has anything going 
with one of them, let me know :)
IVe just got the programming with python book from teh library for the 
raspberry pi, so shall start that :)

oh, and does anyone know what smallish screen is recommended for one?
and ive realised that you need to create a config.txt file on the card 
in order to get it to work with NON HDMI screens, such as my HDMI to VGA 
converter to use a standard monitor.

anyone got experience of this?

ok cheerio



From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 09:38:37 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:38:37 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FTDI chip - PCB
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>

WARNING

if you have any 'Chinese' FTDI breakout boards,

Then DO NOT allow Windows to update driver !!!

because it will be BRICKED !!!

look at this post..

https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1629


Just 'lost' my 3D printer :(


Ceri
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Oct 27 09:46:05 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:46:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FTDI chip - PCB
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1414403165.23763.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 09:38 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> WARNING
> 
> 
> if you have any 'Chinese' FTDI breakout boards, 
> Then DO NOT allow Windows to update driver !!!
> because it will be BRICKED !!!
> look at this post.. 
> https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1629

> Just 'lost' my 3D printer :(

There is an FTDI util that lets you write the PID value back and
re-enable the device, then learn from your mistakes and stop using
windows :)

p.s. that article is quite badly wrong and deluded, we know exactly how
its done, and linux will never do it, i doubt mac ever would either, the
drivers arent supplied by the manufacturer, and the fake "bug" in the
code that does the bricking would have been spotted.

p.p.s. for those that havent read, the driver does this by deliberately
overwriting the PID value to 0 (making it an invalid device) but it does
so in a way that would fail to write on a genuine device due to a quirk
in the hardware. the cloned devices dont have the quirk and obediently
make the write.







From em at preseli.com  Mon Oct 27 10:14:18 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:14:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FTDI chip - PCB
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NxKkGn0nZe7ZSHQ6_9i7qv=68Kn3txr73u=mqY8gq4xA@mail.gmail.com>

Should read Hackaday!

On Monday, October 27, 2014, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> WARNING
>
> if you have any 'Chinese' FTDI breakout boards,
>
> Then DO NOT allow Windows to update driver !!!
>
> because it will be BRICKED !!!
>
> look at this post..
>
> https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1629
>
>
> Just 'lost' my 3D printer :(
>
>
> Ceri
>


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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Mon Oct 27 12:19:02 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:19:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FTDI chip - PCB
In-Reply-To: <1414403165.23763.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1414403165.23763.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <544E3836.1090909@aurinia.co.uk>


On 27/10/14 09:46, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 09:38 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
>> WARNING
>>
>>
>> if you have any 'Chinese' FTDI breakout boards,
>> Then DO NOT allow Windows to update driver !!!
>> because it will be BRICKED !!!
>> look at this post..
>> https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1629
>> Just 'lost' my 3D printer :(
> There is an FTDI util that lets you write the PID value back and
>
> re-enable the device, then learn from your mistakes and stop using
> windows :)
So it is the usual problem with a windows package.:-)
I always think it sounds better in Welsh. Problem gyda phecyn Windows. :-)

Seriously though, having looked at the discussion, even while I 
understand why this has been done, it  seems quite clearly to be a 
criminal offence under UK law.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/48/section/36

Neil








>
> p.s. that article is quite badly wrong and deluded, we know exactly how
> its done, and linux will never do it, i doubt mac ever would either, the
> drivers arent supplied by the manufacturer, and the fake "bug" in the
> code that does the bricking would have been spotted.
>
> p.p.s. for those that havent read, the driver does this by deliberately
> overwriting the PID value to 0 (making it an invalid device) but it does
> so in a way that would fail to write on a genuine device due to a quirk
> in the hardware. the cloned devices dont have the quirk and obediently
> make the write.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



From testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 15:00:39 2014
From: testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com (Pie)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:00:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CAFcreVLor7uuK13v9b4enfFzfUay-4DmtJUngnMZ2SGexk8Z_A@mail.gmail.com>

I saw this on hackaday, very well made.

A VFD watch. Almost as cool as Nixies. Haha

http://www.johngineer.com/blog/?p=1595

Pierre
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Oct 27 15:52:42 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:52:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>

I've given up trying to use one with a screen in a meaningful way - I
mostly use SSH access to mine now.

I picked up a copy of "Raspberry Pi The Complete Manual",
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/raspberry-pi-complete-manual-out-now

quite expensive given that all the tutorials in the book are in the public
domain.

Some of the tutorials were faulty and online research got me back on track
- but it was and still is a handy reference to have on the coffee table.
Useful as a lot of the firewalling 'iptables' stuff I hadn't done in years
and had forgotten - other things were new.

All in all it was fun to try out the different tutorials and get the little
Pi to perform tricks (some of them really worked well) - running Tor was
fun! Not something I would do day to day.

The one project that will probably end up as a permanent feature is the
making of a 'hotspot' - I can see me installing the Pi in my camper van to
hook up to wired ethernet now available at some campsite hookup points to
provide me with wifi in-van, this will give me superior firewall protection
from other campsite users (which a standard wireless access point wouldn't
provide) (I know commercial alternatives exist but none are as much fun of
making it yourself using a Pi)

I thought I had a PDF copy of the book but I cannot find it at the moment
sorry. In my humble opinion it is worth paying for if only to help feed the
people who produced it (even though it was all plagiarised off the interweb)

Later

Emyr



On 27 October 2014 00:13, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I just got my raspberry Pi I inherited from someone working
> yesterday via Noobs and Raspbian!
> oh yes!
> and have been sticking things in a bag for it, tiny mouse, keyboard etc
> etc.
> So a bit excited :)
>
> and Yeah ive heard of this project, seen it, but not seen this page, didnt
> realise it was going for funding etc, id seen it many months ago.
>
> but the website! sheesh!
> Im connected via my phone to browse.
> i only get 500MB data a month.
> thats about 16.8 MB a day.
> .....this site sucked over 13, without any videos runnning, before I had
> to pull the plug on my connection and bin it.
> so,
> ill check the rest out again :)
>
> and yeah, Im quite interested in teh Pi, if anyone has anything going with
> one of them, let me know :)
> IVe just got the programming with python book from teh library for the
> raspberry pi, so shall start that :)
>
> oh, and does anyone know what smallish screen is recommended for one?
> and ive realised that you need to create a config.txt file on the card in
> order to get it to work with NON HDMI screens, such as my HDMI to VGA
> converter to use a standard monitor.
>
> anyone got experience of this?
>
> ok cheerio
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Mon Oct 27 18:57:05 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:57:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
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Emyr,

If your going down that route for your camper, can you make it wifi -> wifi?

When i go down freshwater east with the caravan, i get no phone signal, but
after paying a small fortune to the site, i got wifi - limited to one
device.  I used an windows app, but it kept spamming me, but im sure your
pi solution would be great, anyway the point of my post was to see if you
can include wifi->wifi from the same adapter.

On 27 October 2014 15:52, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I've given up trying to use one with a screen in a meaningful way - I
> mostly use SSH access to mine now.
>
> I picked up a copy of "Raspberry Pi The Complete Manual",
> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/raspberry-pi-complete-manual-out-now
>
> quite expensive given that all the tutorials in the book are in the public
> domain.
>
> Some of the tutorials were faulty and online research got me back on track
> - but it was and still is a handy reference to have on the coffee table.
> Useful as a lot of the firewalling 'iptables' stuff I hadn't done in years
> and had forgotten - other things were new.
>
> All in all it was fun to try out the different tutorials and get the
> little Pi to perform tricks (some of them really worked well) - running Tor
> was fun! Not something I would do day to day.
>
> The one project that will probably end up as a permanent feature is the
> making of a 'hotspot' - I can see me installing the Pi in my camper van to
> hook up to wired ethernet now available at some campsite hookup points to
> provide me with wifi in-van, this will give me superior firewall protection
> from other campsite users (which a standard wireless access point wouldn't
> provide) (I know commercial alternatives exist but none are as much fun of
> making it yourself using a Pi)
>
> I thought I had a PDF copy of the book but I cannot find it at the moment
> sorry. In my humble opinion it is worth paying for if only to help feed the
> people who produced it (even though it was all plagiarised off the interweb)
>
> Later
>
> Emyr
>
>
>
> On 27 October 2014 00:13, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I just got my raspberry Pi I inherited from someone working
>> yesterday via Noobs and Raspbian!
>> oh yes!
>> and have been sticking things in a bag for it, tiny mouse, keyboard etc
>> etc.
>> So a bit excited :)
>>
>> and Yeah ive heard of this project, seen it, but not seen this page,
>> didnt realise it was going for funding etc, id seen it many months ago.
>>
>> but the website! sheesh!
>> Im connected via my phone to browse.
>> i only get 500MB data a month.
>> thats about 16.8 MB a day.
>> .....this site sucked over 13, without any videos runnning, before I had
>> to pull the plug on my connection and bin it.
>> so,
>> ill check the rest out again :)
>>
>> and yeah, Im quite interested in teh Pi, if anyone has anything going
>> with one of them, let me know :)
>> IVe just got the programming with python book from teh library for the
>> raspberry pi, so shall start that :)
>>
>> oh, and does anyone know what smallish screen is recommended for one?
>> and ive realised that you need to create a config.txt file on the card in
>> order to get it to work with NON HDMI screens, such as my HDMI to VGA
>> converter to use a standard monitor.
>>
>> anyone got experience of this?
>>
>> ok cheerio
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
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>
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Mon Oct 27 20:38:52 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:38:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FTDI chip - PCB
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-mdnn7aLELVSAakkMQBNfS6rjRYe_dFxCmtTBbpn78Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141027203852.31d1facd@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:38:37 +0000
Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> WARNING
> 
> if you have any 'Chinese' FTDI breakout boards,
> 
> Then DO NOT allow Windows to update driver !!!
> 
> because it will be BRICKED !!!
> 
> look at this post..
> 
> https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1629
> 
> 
> Just 'lost' my 3D printer :(

The current Linux driver will recognize the new identifier.

If your device has been harmed by the Windows driver then you should file
a computer misuse act complaint with Swansea police and get a crime
number.



Alan


From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Oct 27 22:27:28 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:27:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
Message-ID: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

After another session of tweaking we now have the Mill moving the right
distances in the right directions under the control of an arduino
running Grbl.

Next we need to find a suitable block of wood to use as a bed, mill it
flat, then possibly print, and attach some kind of claps to it to hold
PCBs

We should then be able to mill our own PCB boards, and do any other kind
of engraving / milling jobs you can come up with, although so far i only
have a complete toolchain for PCB layouts.




From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 22:51:24 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:51:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
In-Reply-To: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_s9+v3F7FdTBRVZzN6cn3uB+_uh_tJtA_zJf9Urwc9qg@mail.gmail.com>

I have some MDF lama nate flooring ?
On 27 Oct 2014 22:27, "Justin Mitchell" <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> After another session of tweaking we now have the Mill moving the right
> distances in the right directions under the control of an arduino
> running Grbl.
>
> Next we need to find a suitable block of wood to use as a bed, mill it
> flat, then possibly print, and attach some kind of claps to it to hold
> PCBs
>
> We should then be able to mill our own PCB boards, and do any other kind
> of engraving / milling jobs you can come up with, although so far i only
> have a complete toolchain for PCB layouts.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Mon Oct 27 22:53:13 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:53:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
In-Reply-To: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141027225313.65176a4b@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:27:28 +0000
Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> After another session of tweaking we now have the Mill moving the right
> distances in the right directions under the control of an arduino
> running Grbl.
> 
> Next we need to find a suitable block of wood to use as a bed, mill it
> flat, then possibly print, and attach some kind of claps to it to hold
> PCBs

What sort of "block" do you need (surveying the woodpile)
 
> We should then be able to mill our own PCB boards, and do any other kind
> of engraving / milling jobs you can come up with, although so far i only
> have a complete toolchain for PCB layouts.

3D printing is one of them - you can print oversize a bit and mill down
to get a decent finish.

Alan


From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct 28 11:23:28 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:23:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>
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yes you can - you can specify the devices WAN  and which device is the
hotspot device

unless you have the new Pi+ you would then need a hub to power both wifi
adapters.

I have one of the little nano ones and my stock Pi is quite happy running
just that off the USB, no keyboard/mouse/HDMI etc, it just about gets away
with it

to latch onto a distant wifi in a campsite something with an antenna might
be preferable - the addition of one of these would be interesting

http://www.wa5vjb.com/products1.html

The standard instructions are here for ETHERNET -> WIFI hotspot using a Pi.
it works a treat!

http://www.maketecheasier.com/set-up-raspberry-pi-as-wireless-access-point/

All the best

Emyr


On 27 October 2014 18:57, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Emyr,
>
> If your going down that route for your camper, can you make it wifi ->
> wifi?
>
> When i go down freshwater east with the caravan, i get no phone signal,
> but after paying a small fortune to the site, i got wifi - limited to one
> device.  I used an windows app, but it kept spamming me, but im sure your
> pi solution would be great, anyway the point of my post was to see if you
> can include wifi->wifi from the same adapter.
>
> On 27 October 2014 15:52, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I've given up trying to use one with a screen in a meaningful way - I
>> mostly use SSH access to mine now.
>>
>> I picked up a copy of "Raspberry Pi The Complete Manual",
>> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/raspberry-pi-complete-manual-out-now
>>
>> quite expensive given that all the tutorials in the book are in the
>> public domain.
>>
>> Some of the tutorials were faulty and online research got me back on
>> track - but it was and still is a handy reference to have on the coffee
>> table. Useful as a lot of the firewalling 'iptables' stuff I hadn't done in
>> years and had forgotten - other things were new.
>>
>> All in all it was fun to try out the different tutorials and get the
>> little Pi to perform tricks (some of them really worked well) - running Tor
>> was fun! Not something I would do day to day.
>>
>> The one project that will probably end up as a permanent feature is the
>> making of a 'hotspot' - I can see me installing the Pi in my camper van to
>> hook up to wired ethernet now available at some campsite hookup points to
>> provide me with wifi in-van, this will give me superior firewall protection
>> from other campsite users (which a standard wireless access point wouldn't
>> provide) (I know commercial alternatives exist but none are as much fun of
>> making it yourself using a Pi)
>>
>> I thought I had a PDF copy of the book but I cannot find it at the moment
>> sorry. In my humble opinion it is worth paying for if only to help feed the
>> people who produced it (even though it was all plagiarised off the interweb)
>>
>> Later
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 October 2014 00:13, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I just got my raspberry Pi I inherited from someone working
>>> yesterday via Noobs and Raspbian!
>>> oh yes!
>>> and have been sticking things in a bag for it, tiny mouse, keyboard etc
>>> etc.
>>> So a bit excited :)
>>>
>>> and Yeah ive heard of this project, seen it, but not seen this page,
>>> didnt realise it was going for funding etc, id seen it many months ago.
>>>
>>> but the website! sheesh!
>>> Im connected via my phone to browse.
>>> i only get 500MB data a month.
>>> thats about 16.8 MB a day.
>>> .....this site sucked over 13, without any videos runnning, before I had
>>> to pull the plug on my connection and bin it.
>>> so,
>>> ill check the rest out again :)
>>>
>>> and yeah, Im quite interested in teh Pi, if anyone has anything going
>>> with one of them, let me know :)
>>> IVe just got the programming with python book from teh library for the
>>> raspberry pi, so shall start that :)
>>>
>>> oh, and does anyone know what smallish screen is recommended for one?
>>> and ive realised that you need to create a config.txt file on the card
>>> in order to get it to work with NON HDMI screens, such as my HDMI to VGA
>>> converter to use a standard monitor.
>>>
>>> anyone got experience of this?
>>>
>>> ok cheerio
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
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>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
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>>
>
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From e.j.beggs at swansea.ac.uk  Tue Oct 28 13:24:18 2014
From: e.j.beggs at swansea.ac.uk (Beggs E.J.)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:24:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] spaceapps challenge 2015
Message-ID: <078A00E39832904AA0A2B4F66A0D2DC3342D66CC@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>


  The space apps challenge is on for 10th - 12th April, 2015.

  See the announcement at

  https://spaceappschallenge.org/announcement/

  Previous 2014 event at

  https://2014.spaceappschallenge.org

  Do we want to try to host it? If so, do we want to use it for publicity?

      Edwin 

From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 28 13:32:02 2014
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:32:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] =?utf-8?q?Found_this_vid_=22Investigation=3A_?=
 =?utf-8?q?FTDIgate_=26_Fake/Counterfeit_USB_to=E2=80=A6=22_on_YouTube?=
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS20868BEC0D5CAB3CD6F4B7FC69F0@phx.gbl>

Not watched it yet but it's all about the driver bricking issue.

Investigation: FTDIgate & Fake/Counterfeit USB to?: http://youtu.be/t6LDm2BH_kk



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From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct 28 14:41:22 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:41:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] One day Swansea will boast a space like this
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MmpTcPH=PJr1ffSFeerFQLjwfjzM2tYAw0PNQqKc2Y8Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://hackaday.com/2014/10/28/adventures-in-hackerspacing-ga-techs-invention-studio/

;-)

Em

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From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct 28 20:31:18 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:31:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello there

I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years

I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it, all
other instances highlight automatically.

And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term

both of these are great time saving features.

But, as you know I use OSX

Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar features?

I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have found
anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++

Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.

Thanks in advance

Emyr

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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 21:39:16 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:39:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAAEY5oN+VoA-NPxmVqFbQ+2Q2YpuELV3q4tO3++4DvqNB7PPSg@mail.gmail.com>

If you can get at a command line, installing 'nano' might be possible.
Its quite useful..

Tim_1

On 28 October 2014 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Hello there
>
> I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
>
> I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it,
> all other instances highlight automatically.
>
> And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
> 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
>
> both of these are great time saving features.
>
> But, as you know I use OSX
>
> Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar features?
>
> I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
>
> Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Emyr
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct 28 22:05:28 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:05:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oN+VoA-NPxmVqFbQ+2Q2YpuELV3q4tO3++4DvqNB7PPSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oN+VoA-NPxmVqFbQ+2Q2YpuELV3q4tO3++4DvqNB7PPSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7M+n1Hr=Eb5ZaZ8Op-6bGHugrcbvZqhosH59oLUjuw4kg@mail.gmail.com>

I knew you would say nano, and I have used it mainly via SSH - I should
have explained, I have up to 30 - 40 files open at once, being able to do a
global search across these files is handy, it really needs to be GUI based
editor

On 28 October 2014 21:39, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you can get at a command line, installing 'nano' might be possible.
> Its quite useful..
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 28 October 2014 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello there
>>
>> I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
>>
>> I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it,
>> all other instances highlight automatically.
>>
>> And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
>> 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
>>
>> both of these are great time saving features.
>>
>> But, as you know I use OSX
>>
>> Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar
>> features?
>>
>> I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
>> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
>>
>> Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
>> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> --
>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


-- 
Mob: 07836 267426

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.

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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 22:09:54 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:09:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7M+n1Hr=Eb5ZaZ8Op-6bGHugrcbvZqhosH59oLUjuw4kg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oN+VoA-NPxmVqFbQ+2Q2YpuELV3q4tO3++4DvqNB7PPSg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7M+n1Hr=Eb5ZaZ8Op-6bGHugrcbvZqhosH59oLUjuw4kg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oP_Y8ox8++es6Zf1Fwf4D7UXzVHBhCCayLTbSo=oFi35w@mail.gmail.com>

Ah !   When you have found a unix/linux application that can do that,
please let me know.

:  ))

Tim_1

On 28 October 2014 22:05, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I knew you would say nano, and I have used it mainly via SSH - I should
> have explained, I have up to 30 - 40 files open at once, being able to do a
> global search across these files is handy, it really needs to be GUI based
> editor
>
> On 28 October 2014 21:39, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you can get at a command line, installing 'nano' might be possible.
>> Its quite useful..
>>
>> Tim_1
>>
>> On 28 October 2014 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello there
>>>
>>> I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
>>>
>>> I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it,
>>> all other instances highlight automatically.
>>>
>>> And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
>>> 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
>>>
>>> both of these are great time saving features.
>>>
>>> But, as you know I use OSX
>>>
>>> Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar
>>> features?
>>>
>>> I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
>>> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
>>>
>>> Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
>>> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Emyr
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>>
>>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>>> addressed.
>>>
>>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>>> yn unig.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Oct 28 22:10:43 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oP_Y8ox8++es6Zf1Fwf4D7UXzVHBhCCayLTbSo=oFi35w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oN+VoA-NPxmVqFbQ+2Q2YpuELV3q4tO3++4DvqNB7PPSg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7M+n1Hr=Eb5ZaZ8Op-6bGHugrcbvZqhosH59oLUjuw4kg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oP_Y8ox8++es6Zf1Fwf4D7UXzVHBhCCayLTbSo=oFi35w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7M0-ECy3uw7YM6SVHyBULbAYuWt106s2Rjdryza+pPsdQ@mail.gmail.com>

LOL

On 28 October 2014 22:09, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah !   When you have found a unix/linux application that can do that,
> please let me know.
>
> :  ))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 28 October 2014 22:05, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I knew you would say nano, and I have used it mainly via SSH - I should
>> have explained, I have up to 30 - 40 files open at once, being able to do a
>> global search across these files is handy, it really needs to be GUI based
>> editor
>>
>> On 28 October 2014 21:39, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can get at a command line, installing 'nano' might be possible.
>>> Its quite useful..
>>>
>>> Tim_1
>>>
>>> On 28 October 2014 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello there
>>>>
>>>> I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
>>>>
>>>> I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it,
>>>> all other instances highlight automatically.
>>>>
>>>> And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
>>>> 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
>>>>
>>>> both of these are great time saving features.
>>>>
>>>> But, as you know I use OSX
>>>>
>>>> Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar
>>>> features?
>>>>
>>>> I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
>>>> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
>>>>
>>>> Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
>>>> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Emyr
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>>>
>>>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>>>> addressed.
>>>>
>>>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>>>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>>>> yn unig.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


-- 
Mob: 07836 267426

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solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.

Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
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From ming at gwndwn.org.uk  Wed Oct 29 05:41:48 2014
From: ming at gwndwn.org.uk (Iain Menzies-Runciman)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 05:41:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>

The answer depends on just what you are looking for?.

As a programmer using OSX I use a variety of tools:

TextWrangler is great for just hacking around with simple text files, such as config files, etc, knocking up quick test cases in scripting languages, etc

For more feature such as variable highlighting, code completion, etc I will use a more powerful IDE

For Java & PHP I use Netbeans. Eclipse is another popular alternative - I just don?t like it.

For Python, I am currently using PyCharm - but I keep changing my Python development environment, as I have yet to find one that really suits me. Other options there include things like Eric & Ninja IDE 

For C/C++ depending on the complexity of the project, I will use either netbeans again or Emacs 

As for searching all files in a directory - that is what OSX Spotlight is for. 

Regards,
Ming.


On 28 Oct 2014, at 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Hello there
> 
> I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
> 
> I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it, all other instances highlight automatically.
> 
> And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
> 
> both of these are great time saving features.
> 
> But, as you know I use OSX
> 
> Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar features?
> 
> I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
> 
> Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Emyr
> 
> -- 
> Mob: 07836 267426
> 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
>  
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct 29 08:10:11 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:10:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P2Dve72A9Rh8Oo3YoQdi_TDLnbTvW9e7XxunZPnVMmHg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, useful comments I will look into those.

I write all of my code 'by hand' so I don't need anything
fancy,textwrangler would do if it could simply do the things in my first
post. I have about 40,000 lines in f code f

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014, Iain Menzies-Runciman <ming at gwndwn.org.uk>
wrote:

> The answer depends on just what you are looking for?.
>
> As a programmer using OSX I use a variety of tools:
>
> TextWrangler is great for just hacking around with simple text files, such
> as config files, etc, knocking up quick test cases in scripting languages,
> etc
>
> For more feature such as variable highlighting, code completion, etc I
> will use a more powerful IDE
>
> For Java & PHP I use Netbeans. Eclipse is another popular alternative - I
> just don?t like it.
>
> For Python, I am currently using PyCharm - but I keep changing my Python
> development environment, as I have yet to find one that really suits me.
> Other options there include things like Eric & Ninja IDE
>
> For C/C++ depending on the complexity of the project, I will use either
> netbeans again or Emacs
>
> As for searching all files in a directory - that is what OSX Spotlight is
> for.
>
> Regards,
> Ming.
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2014, at 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello there
> >
> > I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
> >
> > I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it,
> all other instances highlight automatically.
> >
> > And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
> 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
> >
> > both of these are great time saving features.
> >
> > But, as you know I use OSX
> >
> > Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar
> features?
> >
> > I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
> >
> > Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Emyr
> >
> > --
> > Mob: 07836 267426
> >
> > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
> >
> > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
> yn unig.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>


-- 
Mob: 07836 267426

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.

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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 08:55:08 2014
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:55:08 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7P2Dve72A9Rh8Oo3YoQdi_TDLnbTvW9e7XxunZPnVMmHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7P2Dve72A9Rh8Oo3YoQdi_TDLnbTvW9e7XxunZPnVMmHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPqi54Dga7Kt69aXx3nhUnSEYwKcjiOArQ44raPiJQYYiLRQdw@mail.gmail.com>

Disclaimer: I hate IDEs and love a good text editor and command line combo.

TextMate has been my go-to text editor on OS X for years, but there are two
newcomers that are both open-source, hackable and a joy to use:

- Atom (https://atom.io/)
- Brackets (http://brackets.io/)

So far I?m partial to Atom.

Cheers,
Gerrit

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Thank you, useful comments I will look into those.
>
> I write all of my code 'by hand' so I don't need anything
> fancy,textwrangler would do if it could simply do the things in my first
> post. I have about 40,000 lines in f code f
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 29, 2014, Iain Menzies-Runciman <ming at gwndwn.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> The answer depends on just what you are looking for?.
>>
>> As a programmer using OSX I use a variety of tools:
>>
>> TextWrangler is great for just hacking around with simple text files,
>> such as config files, etc, knocking up quick test cases in scripting
>> languages, etc
>>
>> For more feature such as variable highlighting, code completion, etc I
>> will use a more powerful IDE
>>
>> For Java & PHP I use Netbeans. Eclipse is another popular alternative - I
>> just don?t like it.
>>
>> For Python, I am currently using PyCharm - but I keep changing my Python
>> development environment, as I have yet to find one that really suits me.
>> Other options there include things like Eric & Ninja IDE
>>
>> For C/C++ depending on the complexity of the project, I will use either
>> netbeans again or Emacs
>>
>> As for searching all files in a directory - that is what OSX Spotlight is
>> for.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ming.
>>
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello there
>> >
>> > I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
>> >
>> > I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight it,
>> all other instances highlight automatically.
>> >
>> > And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
>> 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
>> >
>> > both of these are great time saving features.
>> >
>> > But, as you know I use OSX
>> >
>> > Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar
>> features?
>> >
>> > I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
>> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
>> >
>> > Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
>> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> >
>> > Emyr
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mob: 07836 267426
>> >
>> > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>> >
>> > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Hackspace mailing list
>> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 09:42:36 2014
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:42:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
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	<610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>
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I'd go along with the sentiments 110% !   The Arduino IDE is the best I've
seen and among the worst is the 'PIC' one from Mlabs.

:  )))

Tim_1

On 29 October 2014 08:55, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Disclaimer: I hate IDEs and love a good text editor and command line combo.
>
> TextMate has been my go-to text editor on OS X for years, but there are
> two newcomers that are both open-source, hackable and a joy to use:
>
> - Atom (https://atom.io/)
> - Brackets (http://brackets.io/)
>
> So far I?m partial to Atom.
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, useful comments I will look into those.
>>
>> I write all of my code 'by hand' so I don't need anything
>> fancy,textwrangler would do if it could simply do the things in my first
>> post. I have about 40,000 lines in f code f
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 29, 2014, Iain Menzies-Runciman <ming at gwndwn.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The answer depends on just what you are looking for?.
>>>
>>> As a programmer using OSX I use a variety of tools:
>>>
>>> TextWrangler is great for just hacking around with simple text files,
>>> such as config files, etc, knocking up quick test cases in scripting
>>> languages, etc
>>>
>>> For more feature such as variable highlighting, code completion, etc I
>>> will use a more powerful IDE
>>>
>>> For Java & PHP I use Netbeans. Eclipse is another popular alternative -
>>> I just don?t like it.
>>>
>>> For Python, I am currently using PyCharm - but I keep changing my Python
>>> development environment, as I have yet to find one that really suits me.
>>> Other options there include things like Eric & Ninja IDE
>>>
>>> For C/C++ depending on the complexity of the project, I will use either
>>> netbeans again or Emacs
>>>
>>> As for searching all files in a directory - that is what OSX Spotlight
>>> is for.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ming.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 20:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello there
>>> >
>>> > I have been using the Windoze Notepad++ text editor for many years
>>> >
>>> > I love the fact I can double click on a word in my PHP to highlight
>>> it, all other instances highlight automatically.
>>> >
>>> > And also when I double click on a word, I can then press CTRL+F and
>>> the 'find' dialogue opens and the word is already set as the search term
>>> >
>>> > both of these are great time saving features.
>>> >
>>> > But, as you know I use OSX
>>> >
>>> > Is there ANY text editor that runs on OSX / *nix that has similar
>>> features?
>>> >
>>> > I have tried TextWrangler and some others and I can't say that I have
>>> found anything that has the sweet functionality if Notepad++
>>> >
>>> > Notepad++ will also search all files in a given directory which can be
>>> handy when I have thousands of documents to check at once.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance
>>> >
>>> > Emyr
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mob: 07836 267426
>>> >
>>> > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>>> addressed.
>>> >
>>> > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>>> yn unig.
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Hackspace mailing list
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>>> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mob: 07836 267426
>>
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
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>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From rollercow at sucs.org  Wed Oct 29 09:42:38 2014
From: rollercow at sucs.org (Chris Jones)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:42:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
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References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>	<610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>	<CAGAFX7P2Dve72A9Rh8Oo3YoQdi_TDLnbTvW9e7XxunZPnVMmHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPqi54Dga7Kt69aXx3nhUnSEYwKcjiOArQ44raPiJQYYiLRQdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5450B68E.10904@sucs.org>

On 29/10/14 08:55, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>
> Disclaimer: I hate IDEs and love a good text editor and command line
> combo.
>
> TextMate has been my go-to text editor on OS X for years, but there
> are two newcomers that are both open-source, hackable and a joy to use:
>

Another vote for TextMate here, plus V2 is open source these days -
https://github.com/textmate/textmate

--
Chris


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 09:50:33 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:50:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAPqi54Dga7Kt69aXx3nhUnSEYwKcjiOArQ44raPiJQYYiLRQdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<610506E0-8A5E-45FD-8A83-E449DD67DAD2@gwndwn.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7P2Dve72A9Rh8Oo3YoQdi_TDLnbTvW9e7XxunZPnVMmHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPqi54Dga7Kt69aXx3nhUnSEYwKcjiOArQ44raPiJQYYiLRQdw@mail.gmail.com>
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wow! it wasnt mentioned....... hello and welcome to the 21st centuary! 
spelt anyway you see fit.

........ Sirs, I present you the option of SUBLIMETEXT

http://www.sublimetext.com/

runs on SlimeDows, Linooks and the obviously superior Mac..... (yes, 
yes, unix underbelly blah blah ;-) )

get sublime text
then
go here to Will bonds .....thing

https://sublime.wbond.net/

and copy the text of the download manager, paste it into sublimes 
terminal and
HOLY COW
it just ....becomes a beast! fuzzy logic search anything /anywere to 
download and install stuff.

ie.
after installing will bonds thing

shift cmd P for package manager
type
install..... watch the magicy thing as it works out what you want as you 
type.
select the packet manager installer,
type whatever you are looking for, with regards php etc.

ping! there it is, it, returns, downloads and installs.
and is there.
its amazing.

multiple cursors (damned weird at first)
search anywhere (project wide, just open a folder, not a file and bingo! 
it all opens up in the sidebar in hierachy order. wow)



I recommend the FREE tutorials here.
http://code.tutsplus.com/courses/perfect-workflow-in-sublime-text-2

the important thing is not to get lost/fry your head in adding stuff to 
sublime. many many things!
it can also run textmate *bundles* that are plugins for the previous 
daddy of mac text editors (text editor flaming/wars imminnant)

sublime can do shedloads of stuff is stunningly adaptable and has 
version 2 and 3
oh!
and 2.... is classed as a beta... runs indefinately with the occasional 
pop up to ask you would you be interested in purchasing it.
amazing...what good guys!

I am limited by my OS....mac os x 10.6.8, snow leopard (quite happy with 
it ta very much :) )
but IM not limited by the text editor! amazing.

*can you hear me dribbling?*
I spent a-long-time-searching text editors and currently have about 12 
installed!
allthough Im no where near the coding abilities of many/all of you 
there, I do know a good thing when I see it :)

so good luck and I recommend this to all of you on all OS' and if you 
use it, I recommend chucking the guys a few bucks and buying it :)

nb,
the choice of packages/themes you install can greatly effect the overall 
experience
oh and the settings will......make you squeal with delight or barf in 
terror.
no clicky buttons.
all settings are......text! JSON files (I think)
you can just about adjust/break everything in the editor.
go ahead and geek your fizzy bits off.

colour bonkersness......

http://colorsublime.com/
see what you like, download and install

start with package manager, then for me I added

sidebar enhancements              not sure! as i installed it 
immediately and am happy with my sidebar :)
origami-                                   multiple panes in the text 
code editor -with multiple tabs in each. go wild n crazy
emmet -                                   the old zen coding, for 
superfast code writing....if I could remember the syntax
sftp                                           yep, for sftp. it logs in 
, twiddles files etc.

and lots of other stuff.


have fun, and if you can run sublimetext3, let me know what its like :)



From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Oct 29 10:10:43 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Question for coders
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7M0-ECy3uw7YM6SVHyBULbAYuWt106s2Rjdryza+pPsdQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MgoX0C6CN8bmABw7SAhkzjRKJT1U1egumcbXvKuZyzSA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oN+VoA-NPxmVqFbQ+2Q2YpuELV3q4tO3++4DvqNB7PPSg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7M+n1Hr=Eb5ZaZ8Op-6bGHugrcbvZqhosH59oLUjuw4kg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAEY5oP_Y8ox8++es6Zf1Fwf4D7UXzVHBhCCayLTbSo=oFi35w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7M0-ECy3uw7YM6SVHyBULbAYuWt106s2Rjdryza+pPsdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1414577443.9292.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

[Ponders to self] Maybe i should do a VIM tutorial...

;)


On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 22:10 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> LOL
> 
> 
> On 28 October 2014 22:09, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>         Ah !   When you have found a unix/linux application that can
>         do that, please let me know.
>         
>         :  ))
>         
>         
>         Tim_1
>         
>         
>         On 28 October 2014 22:05, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>                 I knew you would say nano, and I have used it mainly
>                 via SSH - I should have explained, I have up to 30 -
>                 40 files open at once, being able to do a global
>                 search across these files is handy, it really needs to
>                 be GUI based editor
>                 
>                 
>                 On 28 October 2014 21:39, Tim Moore
>                 <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>                         If you can get at a command line, installing
>                         'nano' might be possible.
>                         
>                         Its quite useful..
>                         
>                         
>                         Tim_1
>                         
>                         
>                         On 28 October 2014 20:31, Emyr Morris
>                         <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>                         
>                                 Hello there
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 I have been using the Windoze Notepad
>                                 ++ text editor for many years
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 I love the fact I can double click on
>                                 a word in my PHP to highlight it, all
>                                 other instances highlight
>                                 automatically.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 And also when I double click on a
>                                 word, I can then press CTRL+F and the
>                                 'find' dialogue opens and the word is
>                                 already set as the search term
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 both of these are great time saving
>                                 features.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 But, as you know I use OSX
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 Is there ANY text editor that runs on
>                                 OSX / *nix that has similar features?
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 I have tried TextWrangler and some
>                                 others and I can't say that I have
>                                 found anything that has the sweet
>                                 functionality if Notepad++
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 Notepad++ will also search all files
>                                 in a given directory which can be
>                                 handy when I have thousands of
>                                 documents to check at once.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 Thanks in advance
>                                 
>                                 Emyr
>                                 
>                                 -- 
>                                 Mob: 07836 267426
>                                 
>                                 This e-mail and any files transmitted
>                                 with it are confidential and intended
>                                 solely for the use of the individual
>                                 or entity to whom they are addressed.
>                                  
>                                 Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a
>                                 drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
>                                 ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff
>                                 y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 _______________________________________________
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>                                 http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>                                 
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         _______________________________________________
>                         Hackspace mailing list
>                         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>                         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>                         
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 -- 
>                 Mob: 07836 267426
>                 
>                 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are
>                 confidential and intended solely for the use of the
>                 individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
>                  
>                 Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir
>                 gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn
>                 neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>                 
>                 _______________________________________________
>                 Hackspace mailing list
>                 Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>                 http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>                 
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>         
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mob: 07836 267426
> 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> are addressed.
>  
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy
> atynt yn unig.
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace




From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 10:45:27 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:45:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7PARaD6wOUodPJ3rkp634FGByNHruBCtC7pDB992vogyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5450C547.30709@gmail.com>

seen these?
i cant find the original article
which was something like

wifi on the chip

(Not cheap, pringles joke)

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/extend-your-wifi-range-using-diy-antenna-from-pringles-can.html

I remember the original article saying that it could detect wireless 
networks up to 10 miles away!!!

might be handy in the campervan/site /anywhere you fancy scenario

oh and I just got an email from the hackspace payments section saying 
that my membership was about to expire,
but nothing from a human. oh well.

not sure how it works for the likes of myself who travels a lot I guess, 
but has limited funds, so I may just have to pop in on the occasional 
workshops and make donations instead as a steady tenner a month after 
the 20 adds up to a fair bit for someone who lives on less than ?1.5K a 
year (yes thats right) and runs a car....occasionally.
and I cant guarentee when I'll be around, and have only been there a 
handful of times.
such is the life of a traveller.

:)

It was good to get my brains tested there, enjoyed the 3d printing bit, 
tried donating, 2 fridges, pc cases, loaning lots of test equipment, 
shelves etc, but alas none of it accepted, so I have it all here still 
awaiting my lonesome tinkering (except the fridges, they went) so if 
anyone else is after stuff let me know.

till they bin my emails too, tata for now


From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 10:48:57 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:48:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
In-Reply-To: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <5450C619.2040201@gmail.com>

dimensions for wood for mill?
my friend works in forest timber and there are some large/solid, 
composite wooden girder parts, ie

10-20 cm thick, and about 30-40cm wide and well over a metre long


From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct 29 10:52:28 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:52:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
In-Reply-To: <5450C619.2040201@gmail.com>
References: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<5450C619.2040201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1414579948.9292.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 10:48 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> dimensions for wood for mill?
> my friend works in forest timber and there are some large/solid, 
> composite wooden girder parts, ie
> 
> 10-20 cm thick, and about 30-40cm wide and well over a metre long

Its only a little desktop machine, the bed is probably about 200x300mm

Probably just looking for an offcut of wood about 150mm square about
10mm or so thick, that we can mill the top off to level the machine,
then mount PCBs to it.

I have seen suggestions that MDF is bad because of the fine dust,
although someone (sorry i forgot who) donated an old vacuum cleaner to
use with it.

Now if i can just find something to generate sane gcode under linux, the
inkscape gcodetools generated stuff that looked sane in the visualiser,
but when you ran it went awol. FlatCAM does the PCB gcode nicely, but
that doesnt help milling a flat bed.




From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 11:00:55 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:00:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
In-Reply-To: <1414579948.9292.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<5450C619.2040201@gmail.com>
	<1414579948.9292.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_-Rd1ksK-BjE8N8XTXy3SXLhkW3vnfYbZme4tFK5DNjg@mail.gmail.com>

What about making a PCB with NO copper ...

So it mills the sacrificial board smooth .. needs to be a PCB as big /
bigger than normal ..

or you could add ( NOT remove) an 'L' in the corner, so this is HOME !!

Ceri.

By the way, we used to use acrylic as our sacrificial board .

:)

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 10:48 +0000, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> > dimensions for wood for mill?
> > my friend works in forest timber and there are some large/solid,
> > composite wooden girder parts, ie
> >
> > 10-20 cm thick, and about 30-40cm wide and well over a metre long
>
> Its only a little desktop machine, the bed is probably about 200x300mm
>
> Probably just looking for an offcut of wood about 150mm square about
> 10mm or so thick, that we can mill the top off to level the machine,
> then mount PCBs to it.
>
> I have seen suggestions that MDF is bad because of the fine dust,
> although someone (sorry i forgot who) donated an old vacuum cleaner to
> use with it.
>
> Now if i can just find something to generate sane gcode under linux, the
> inkscape gcodetools generated stuff that looked sane in the visualiser,
> but when you ran it went awol. FlatCAM does the PCB gcode nicely, but
> that doesnt help milling a flat bed.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Wed Oct 29 11:09:53 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:09:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <5450C547.30709@gmail.com>
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On 29/10/14 10:45, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
> seen these?
> i cant find the original article
> which was something like
>
> wifi on the chip
>
> (Not cheap, pringles joke)
>
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/ 
>
> http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/extend-your-wifi-range-using-diy-antenna-from-pringles-can.html 
>
>
> I remember the original article saying that it could detect wireless 
> networks up to 10 miles away!!!
>
> might be handy in the campervan/site /anywhere you fancy scenario
>
> oh and I just got an email from the hackspace payments section saying 
> that my membership was about to expire,
> but nothing from a human. oh well.
I think you'll find there is a friendly human being who is looking after 
the accounting system.

I would say generally to everyone that if they can they should pay by a 
regular automated method as it really helps run things.




>
> not sure how it works for the likes of myself who travels a lot I 
> guess, but has limited funds, so I may just have to pop in on the 
> occasional workshops and make donations instead as a steady tenner a 
> month after the 20 adds up to a fair bit for someone who lives on less 
> than ?1.5K a year (yes thats right) and runs a car....occasionally.
> and I cant guarentee when I'll be around, and have only been there a 
> handful of times.
> such is the life of a traveller.

How the hell do you manage that!? That is about four quid a day!.

Neil
>
> :)
>
> It was good to get my brains tested there, enjoyed the 3d printing 
> bit, tried donating, 2 fridges, pc cases, loaning lots of test 
> equipment, shelves etc, but alas none of it accepted, so I have it all 
> here still awaiting my lonesome tinkering (except the fridges, they 
> went) so if anyone else is after stuff let me know.
>
> till they bin my emails too, tata for now
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct 29 11:37:38 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:37:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
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Hats off I say for surviving on ?4 a day, but, Hackspace has to pay its
rent to the tech hub, fridges and shelves although handy don't pay the bill
every month :-(

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 29/10/14 10:45, Ian Bullfrog wrote:
>
>> seen these?
>> i cant find the original article
>> which was something like
>>
>> wifi on the chip
>>
>> (Not cheap, pringles joke)
>>
>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-
>> out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/
>> http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/extend-your-
>> wifi-range-using-diy-antenna-from-pringles-can.html
>>
>> I remember the original article saying that it could detect wireless
>> networks up to 10 miles away!!!
>>
>> might be handy in the campervan/site /anywhere you fancy scenario
>>
>> oh and I just got an email from the hackspace payments section saying
>> that my membership was about to expire,
>> but nothing from a human. oh well.
>>
> I think you'll find there is a friendly human being who is looking after
> the accounting system.
>
> I would say generally to everyone that if they can they should pay by a
> regular automated method as it really helps run things.
>
>
>
>
>
>> not sure how it works for the likes of myself who travels a lot I guess,
>> but has limited funds, so I may just have to pop in on the occasional
>> workshops and make donations instead as a steady tenner a month after the
>> 20 adds up to a fair bit for someone who lives on less than ?1.5K a year
>> (yes thats right) and runs a car....occasionally.
>> and I cant guarentee when I'll be around, and have only been there a
>> handful of times.
>> such is the life of a traveller.
>>
>
> How the hell do you manage that!? That is about four quid a day!.
>
> Neil
>
>>
>> :)
>>
>> It was good to get my brains tested there, enjoyed the 3d printing bit,
>> tried donating, 2 fridges, pc cases, loaning lots of test equipment,
>> shelves etc, but alas none of it accepted, so I have it all here still
>> awaiting my lonesome tinkering (except the fridges, they went) so if anyone
>> else is after stuff let me know.
>>
>> till they bin my emails too, tata for now
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>


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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Wed Oct 29 11:48:21 2014
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:48:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
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O> I have seen suggestions that MDF is bad because of the fine dust,
> although someone (sorry i forgot who) donated an old vacuum cleaner to
> use with it.

MDF is very very flat so while it does need proper ventilation it's
commonly used as a bed (and you are not supposed to saw the bed up). All
wood dust however is supposed to be dealt with properly. It varies
between yew and laburnum (which can kill you) to stuff like bamboo which
is only an irritant under low exposures.

Under high exposures most sawdust is linked to nose cancers and asthma
which is why commercial wood shops all have those big hoover things on
the bandsaws etc.

Alan




From em at preseli.com  Wed Oct 29 13:47:35 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:47:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
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References: <1414448848.28451.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<5450C619.2040201@gmail.com>
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I will be going to my dad's in west wales in a few weeks time, he has a
shed and a garage full of board, if you have not found anything by then let
me know and I will bring back a few pieces. He has good quality ply,
chipboard, mdf, everything you can imagine being a hoarder and a carpenter
;-)

So it won't be this weekend but the weekend after... maybe having a few
spare boards won't hurt anyway

Em

On 29 October 2014 11:48, Alan Cox <alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> O> I have seen suggestions that MDF is bad because of the fine dust,
> > although someone (sorry i forgot who) donated an old vacuum cleaner to
> > use with it.
>
> MDF is very very flat so while it does need proper ventilation it's
> commonly used as a bed (and you are not supposed to saw the bed up). All
> wood dust however is supposed to be dealt with properly. It varies
> between yew and laburnum (which can kill you) to stuff like bamboo which
> is only an irritant under low exposures.
>
> Under high exposures most sawdust is linked to nose cancers and asthma
> which is why commercial wood shops all have those big hoover things on
> the bandsaws etc.
>
> Alan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Wed Oct 29 14:49:55 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:49:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
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	<5450C619.2040201@gmail.com>
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I would suggest a board a bit bigger than 160mm in each direction so that you have abed that can handle standard 100x160 pcb.  Also I can write you some gcode by hand for flattening, it's a doddle to do simple stuff like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com>
Sent: ?29/?10/?2014 13:48
To: "Swansea Hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress

I will be going to my dad's in west wales in a few weeks time, he has a shed and a garage full of board, if you have not found anything by then let me know and I will bring back a few pieces. He has good quality ply, chipboard, mdf, everything you can imagine being a hoarder and a carpenter ;-)


So it won't be this weekend but the weekend after... maybe having a few spare boards won't hurt anyway



Em



On 29 October 2014 11:48, Alan Cox <alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

O> I have seen suggestions that MDF is bad because of the fine dust,
> although someone (sorry i forgot who) donated an old vacuum cleaner to
> use with it.

MDF is very very flat so while it does need proper ventilation it's
commonly used as a bed (and you are not supposed to saw the bed up). All
wood dust however is supposed to be dealt with properly. It varies
between yew and laburnum (which can kill you) to stuff like bamboo which
is only an irritant under low exposures.

Under high exposures most sawdust is linked to nose cancers and asthma
which is why commercial wood shops all have those big hoover things on
the bandsaws etc.

Alan



_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace




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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Oct 29 14:58:37 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:58:37 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
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On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 14:49 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> I would suggest a board a bit bigger than 160mm in each direction so
> that you have abed that can handle standard 100x160 pcb.  Also I can
> write you some gcode by hand for flattening, it's a doddle to do
> simple stuff like that.

I had been considering buying a small stock of copper clad boards in so
that there would be some to hand when people wanted it, but its sold in
so many sizes i was having trouble figuring out what would be the best
to go for.

I also read that FR2 board is considered better for milling, as its
easier to work than the now more common FR4 fibreglass boards.




From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Wed Oct 29 16:07:25 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:07:25 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Mill Progress
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I dont know about the FR2/FR4 difference, I just use whatever I have to
hand.   Just done a couple of boards on FR4 160x100, then realised that the
reason that board size doesnt matter (so i used standard 160x100) is
because i have a band saw with fine pitch teeth, and just cut out my boards
when they are done, therefore the board size really doesnt matter to me.
But i dont think the hackspace has any tools suitable for cutting 'bits'
out of an over size pcb.  perhaps some golden ratio sizes
http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Sick_of_Beige_standard_PCB_sizes_v1.0

We also machine some acrylic to make the covers as in the pictures.


On 29 October 2014 14:58, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 14:49 +0000, Graham Owens wrote:
> > I would suggest a board a bit bigger than 160mm in each direction so
> > that you have abed that can handle standard 100x160 pcb.  Also I can
> > write you some gcode by hand for flattening, it's a doddle to do
> > simple stuff like that.
>
> I had been considering buying a small stock of copper clad boards in so
> that there would be some to hand when people wanted it, but its sold in
> so many sizes i was having trouble figuring out what would be the best
> to go for.
>
> I also read that FR2 board is considered better for milling, as its
> easier to work than the now more common FR4 fibreglass boards.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 13:37:39 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:37:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] openscad maths
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_K2wOKxERrETjjQrYNtAAB-Z2JdhxtdwGb5VS=fCtz+w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, going crazy here ...


I need something like:


test = 102; // 0x66

if (test AND 1) {do something usefull @ poz 1};
if (test AND 2) {do something usefull @ poz 2};
..
..
..
if (test AND 128) {do something usefull @ poz 128};
if (test AND 256) {do something usefull @ poz 256};

excerera ...excetera ...



e.g. draw the binary representation of a 16 bit number in cubes/spheres !!!

102 should look like:

_##_ _##_

128:

#___ ____

170: (0xAA)
#_#_ #_#_

85 (0x55)
_#_# _#_#

Cheers

Ceri
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Oct 30 13:48:48 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:48:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] openscad maths
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_K2wOKxERrETjjQrYNtAAB-Z2JdhxtdwGb5VS=fCtz+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn_K2wOKxERrETjjQrYNtAAB-Z2JdhxtdwGb5VS=fCtz+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1414676928.27184.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 13:37 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> Hi, going crazy here ...
> I need something like:

> test = 102; // 0x66
> if (test AND 1) {do something usefull @ poz 1};
> if (test AND 2) {do something usefull @ poz 2};

> e.g. draw the binary representation of a 16 bit number in
> cubes/spheres !!!

Doesn't look possible,
there are no bitwise operators that i can see, and
variables are evaluated at compile time so you cant even run a loop to
do it the long way around.

Either preprocess it, i.e. write a program that writes openscad.
or switch to openjscad which is an almost identical syntax except that
it uses javascript as the language, so can do less noddy operations





From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 15:52:03 2014
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:52:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] openscad maths
In-Reply-To: <1414676928.27184.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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Wanted something like this:


// upside down :(



w = 102; //170;


//data=[1,2,4,8,16,32,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,16];


//data =[32768,16384,8192,4096,2048,1024,512,256,128,64,32,16,8,4,2,1];


//data=[1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768];


data0 =[

9728 ,

28492 ,

26734 ,

24902 ,

16386 ,

16386 ,

16384 ,

24578 ,

28930 ,

16384 ,

16384 ,

0 ,

0 ,

1124 ,

1126 ,

30284


];


data1=[0 ,

26190 ,

65535 ,

62431 ,

61839 ,

57735 ,

57735 ,

24963 ,

29635 ,

32767 ,

60267 ,

49155 ,

49154 ,

58370 ,

58623 ,

65534


];


data2=[49155 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

49154 ,

16387 ,

16387 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

49154 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

49155 ,

65535 ];


data3=[65535 ,

32767 ,

32766 ,

65535 ,

65535 ,

65534 ,

32766 ,

65535 ,

65535 ,

65535 ,

65535 ,

32767 ,

32639 ,

65534 ,

65535 ,

65534 ];


data4=[31710 ,

32222 ,

31710 ,

31710 ,

31710 ,

31710 ,

31698 ,

29658 ,

31698 ,

28626 ,

28626 ,

28630 ,

28630 ,

28630 ,

28630 ,

28670 ];


//test = chr() -> #0a99f;


CubeSize = 4;



MyCube (0,0,10);


echo (data);



//color ("RED")

//{

// MyCube ( 1, 1, 1);

// MyCube ( 1, 1,16);

// MyCube ( 1,16, 1);

// MyCube ( 1,16,16);

//

// MyCube (16, 1, 1);

// MyCube (16, 1,16);

// MyCube (16,16, 1);

// MyCube (16,16,16);

//

//}


for (k=[0:15])

{

color ("Lime") line (0,data0[k],k);

}


for (k=[0:15])

{

color ("Green") line (1,data1[k],k);

}


// 12 lines ..

for (bod=[2:13])

{

for (k=[0:15])

{

color ("gray") line (bod,data2[k],k);

}

}



for (k=[0:15])

{

color ("Blue") line (14,data3[k],k);

}


for (k=[0:15])

{

color ("DodgerBlue") line (15,data4[k],k);

}


module line (xln,test, zCnt)

{

echo ("data ", test, " count ", zCnt);


 bit15 =(( (test - ( 0 )) / 32768 ) >= 1) ? 32768 :0;

bit14 =(( (test - ( bit15 )) / 16384 ) >= 1) ? 16384 :0;

bit13 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14) ) / 8192 ) >= 1) ? 8192 :0;

bit12 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13) ) / 4096 ) >= 1) ? 4096 :0;

bit11 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12) ) / 2048 ) >= 1) ? 2048
:0;

bit10 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11) ) / 1024 ) >= 1)
? 1024 :0;

bit9 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 )) / 512 )
>= 1) ? 512 :0;

bit8 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 ))
/ 256 ) >= 1) ? 256 :0;

bit7 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 )) / 128 ) >= 1) ? 128 :0;

bit6 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 )) / 64 ) >= 1) ? 64 :0;

bit5 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 + bit6 )) / 32 ) >= 1) ? 32 :0;

bit4 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 + bit6 + bit5 )) / 16 ) >= 1) ? 16 :0;

bit3 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 + bit6 + bit5 + bit4 )) / 8 ) >= 1) ? 8 :0;

bit2 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 + bit6 + bit5 + bit4 + bit3 )) / 4 ) >= 1) ? 4 :0;

bit1 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 + bit6 + bit5 + bit4 + bit3 + bit2) ) / 2 ) >= 1) ? 2 :0;

bit0 =(( (test - ( bit15 + bit14 + bit13 + bit12 + bit11 + bit10 + bit9 +
bit8 + bit7 + bit6 + bit5 + bit4 + bit3 + bit2 + bit1 )) / 1 ) >= 1) ? 1 :0;




if (bit15) MyCube (xln, 15,zCnt);

if (bit14) MyCube (xln, 14,zCnt);

if (bit13) MyCube (xln, 13,zCnt);

if (bit12) MyCube (xln, 12,zCnt);

if (bit11) MyCube (xln, 11,zCnt);

if (bit10) MyCube (xln, 10,zCnt);

if (bit9) MyCube (xln, 9,zCnt);

if (bit8) MyCube (xln, 8,zCnt);

if (bit7) MyCube (xln, 7,zCnt);

if (bit6) MyCube (xln, 6,zCnt);

if (bit5) MyCube (xln, 5,zCnt);

if (bit4) MyCube (xln, 4,zCnt);

if (bit3) MyCube (xln, 3,zCnt);

if (bit2) MyCube (xln, 2,zCnt);

if (bit1) MyCube (xln, 1,zCnt);

if (bit0) MyCube (xln, 0,zCnt);


}
























module MyCube (xx,yy,zz)

{

translate ([xx*CubeSize, yy*CubeSize, zz*CubeSize]) cube (CubeSize);

}
















On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 13:37 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> > Hi, going crazy here ...
> > I need something like:
>
> > test = 102; // 0x66
> > if (test AND 1) {do something usefull @ poz 1};
> > if (test AND 2) {do something usefull @ poz 2};
>
> > e.g. draw the binary representation of a 16 bit number in
> > cubes/spheres !!!
>
> Doesn't look possible,
> there are no bitwise operators that i can see, and
> variables are evaluated at compile time so you cant even run a loop to
> do it the long way around.
>
> Either preprocess it, i.e. write a program that writes openscad.
> or switch to openjscad which is an almost identical syntax except that
> it uses javascript as the language, so can do less noddy operations
>
>
>
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Oct 30 16:04:53 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:04:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] openscad maths
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn84Xmx=fYFumNpnhBU2VoygcAPMRhUvGj0Yj6VwxUoz3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn_K2wOKxERrETjjQrYNtAAB-Z2JdhxtdwGb5VS=fCtz+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1414676928.27184.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAO=DJn84Xmx=fYFumNpnhBU2VoygcAPMRhUvGj0Yj6VwxUoz3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1414685093.27184.17.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 15:52 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> Wanted something like this:

>         On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 13:37 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
>         > Hi, going crazy here ...
>         > I need something like:
>         
>         > test = 102; // 0x66
>         > if (test AND 1) {do something usefull @ poz 1};
>         > if (test AND 2) {do something usefull @ poz 2};
>         
>         > e.g. draw the binary representation of a 16 bit number in
>         > cubes/spheres !!!


after some further thought, it is possible...

val = 39317;

for (i = [15:-1:0])
{
	if ( floor(val / pow(2, i)) % 2 == 1 ) {
		translate([15-i,0,0]) cube([1,1,2]);
	} else {
		translate([15-i,0,0]) cube([1,1,1]);
	}
}





From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Oct 30 21:11:32 2014
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:11:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
Message-ID: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

This Saturdays (1st Nov) Machine Sewing workshop is cancelled.

Next scheduled workshop is
Sat 15th Nov, Analogue Electronics with Tom Lake

The spark.io build night for Sat 22nd nov is strictly tickets only due
to the limited number of boards available. get them here.
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/build-with-sparkio-tickets-14054672905

If anyone else has the time and wants to fill one of the empty timeslots
with any kind of workshop please come forward.




From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 31 07:42:07 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:42:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <54533d34.a88ec20a.59fe.ffff8469@mx.google.com>

Hi Justin,

I will be in Saturday if any keyholders are about that can open the door, and could run an attempting to hack an Oregon scientific weather station workshop ;)

Also can I register for the spark.io event, as eventbrite uses some kind of client side scripting that is preventing me from registering from this device.

Thanks

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: "Justin Mitchell" <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Sent: ?30/?10/?2014 21:11
To: "hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events

This Saturdays (1st Nov) Machine Sewing workshop is cancelled.

Next scheduled workshop is
Sat 15th Nov, Analogue Electronics with Tom Lake

The spark.io build night for Sat 22nd nov is strictly tickets only due
to the limited number of boards available. get them here.
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/build-with-sparkio-tickets-14054672905

If anyone else has the time and wants to fill one of the empty timeslots
with any kind of workshop please come forward.


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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 31 09:14:50 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:14:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <54533d34.a88ec20a.59fe.ffff8469@mx.google.com>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<54533d34.a88ec20a.59fe.ffff8469@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4Rbz--7JeVGmY1e5hRFRbuTA1iv_9ZS09cXLtyeJmDdRg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Justin (Or Whomever sorted out the eventbrite thing for me)

On 31 October 2014 07:42, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> I will be in Saturday if any keyholders are about that can open the door,
> and could run an attempting to hack an Oregon scientific weather station
> workshop ;)
>
> Also can I register for the spark.io event, as eventbrite uses some kind
> of client side scripting that is preventing me from registering from this
> device.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
> ------------------------------
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Sent: ?30/?10/?2014 21:11
> To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
>
> This Saturdays (1st Nov) Machine Sewing workshop is cancelled.
>
> Next scheduled workshop is
> Sat 15th Nov, Analogue Electronics with Tom Lake
>
> The spark.io build night for Sat 22nd nov is strictly tickets only due
> to the limited number of boards available. get them here.
> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/build-with-sparkio-tickets-14054672905
>
> If anyone else has the time and wants to fill one of the empty timeslots
> with any kind of workshop please come forward.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Oct 31 11:26:31 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:26:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1414703492.32400.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P-PBfsy5-RPjvesHxKaMoS+XKS_aVwPDWK=9juxaULLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can't make the 22nd sadly - my son has a brass band concert that day and I
don't know what time that finishes. Good luck, I hope you come up with some
great projects. I had been really looking forward to trying out a few ideas
with one.

Will the hackspace keep the modules or will they be given to those
attending? If it is possible that the space keeps at least one so members
can try it out then that would be brilliant.

Thanks

Emyr

On 30 October 2014 21:11, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> This Saturdays (1st Nov) Machine Sewing workshop is cancelled.
>
> Next scheduled workshop is
> Sat 15th Nov, Analogue Electronics with Tom Lake
>
> The spark.io build night for Sat 22nd nov is strictly tickets only due
> to the limited number of boards available. get them here.
> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/build-with-sparkio-tickets-14054672905
>
> If anyone else has the time and wants to fill one of the empty timeslots
> with any kind of workshop please come forward.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Oct 31 12:07:24 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:07:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NuUwRuGckMw=xEg82DD1gnWMyhotbCZCiW9JBUuVMfaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7PARaD6wOUodPJ3rkp634FGByNHruBCtC7pDB992vogyA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5450C547.30709@gmail.com> <5450CB01.8010906@aurinia.co.uk>
	<CAGAFX7NuUwRuGckMw=xEg82DD1gnWMyhotbCZCiW9JBUuVMfaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54537B7C.6020400@gmail.com>

yeah, pity I missed it when it was just meeting up in places really.
milling machines and lasers and the like are very nice, Im sure, but I 
cant really afford to contribute towards them really and never got a 
keyfob so couldnt just roll in and do stuff with the printer as I 
couldnt seem to ever catch anyone there to get let in.
its a bit of a long trot down there to stare at a green gate.

I was waiting on the keyfob so that I couldnt actually start to use the 
space properly/internet access etc and use it for doing some webdev etc 
and hopefully get some work that way- I dont have internet at home, 
except via my phone.

so its back to the library for me.
which closes for 5 weeks...... from next week.
crap!

I just wanted to tinker with stuff at a lower hardware commitment level. 
making things out of recycled things etc.
still, the balcony was nice :)

catch you at some of the socials and maybe some workshops with donations.

good luck and bye for now.

ps. just giving some positive feedback for future cases to bear in mind 
with others at the lower end of the food chain/living distantly from the 
centre.




From em at preseli.com  Fri Oct 31 12:03:14 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:03:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <54537B7C.6020400@gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7PARaD6wOUodPJ3rkp634FGByNHruBCtC7pDB992vogyA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5450C547.30709@gmail.com> <5450CB01.8010906@aurinia.co.uk>
	<CAGAFX7NuUwRuGckMw=xEg82DD1gnWMyhotbCZCiW9JBUuVMfaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54537B7C.6020400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MY+FVJC+d8ptbRpgHyp6oyXE+_06RqooViLeuvTCeptw@mail.gmail.com>

I am told that the Ponty Library has shut for redevelopment already - and
ironically it is also under review for closure!!!

*sigh*

Emyr

On 31 October 2014 12:07, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> yeah, pity I missed it when it was just meeting up in places really.
> milling machines and lasers and the like are very nice, Im sure, but I
> cant really afford to contribute towards them really and never got a keyfob
> so couldnt just roll in and do stuff with the printer as I couldnt seem to
> ever catch anyone there to get let in.
> its a bit of a long trot down there to stare at a green gate.
>
> I was waiting on the keyfob so that I couldnt actually start to use the
> space properly/internet access etc and use it for doing some webdev etc and
> hopefully get some work that way- I dont have internet at home, except via
> my phone.
>
> so its back to the library for me.
> which closes for 5 weeks...... from next week.
> crap!
>
> I just wanted to tinker with stuff at a lower hardware commitment level.
> making things out of recycled things etc.
> still, the balcony was nice :)
>
> catch you at some of the socials and maybe some workshops with donations.
>
> good luck and bye for now.
>
> ps. just giving some positive feedback for future cases to bear in mind
> with others at the lower end of the food chain/living distantly from the
> centre.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Oct 31 12:15:51 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:15:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MY+FVJC+d8ptbRpgHyp6oyXE+_06RqooViLeuvTCeptw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7PARaD6wOUodPJ3rkp634FGByNHruBCtC7pDB992vogyA@mail.gmail.com>	<5450C547.30709@gmail.com>
	<5450CB01.8010906@aurinia.co.uk>	<CAGAFX7NuUwRuGckMw=xEg82DD1gnWMyhotbCZCiW9JBUuVMfaw@mail.gmail.com>	<54537B7C.6020400@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MY+FVJC+d8ptbRpgHyp6oyXE+_06RqooViLeuvTCeptw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54537D77.4000202@gmail.com>

aw crap.

thats why I couldnt get a reply when i called them to renew my library 
books-and to check on their closure dates.
and shutting AND refurbishment?
well, that sounds like a scam to tart the place up with local government 
funds before renting it out at a higher rate.
and they CANT close it.....

...its the only vestige of Culture and learning left in the hot melting 
pot of vomit dripping alco-pop fuelled ,curry house,second hand shops 
and chemists for the aged and waiting to die metroplis that was once a 
thriving community (of heavy metal poisoned workers and 
alchoholics...but ......still........)

there will be NO reason to go there if your sober any more.....unless 
you need a 2nd hand sofa and some paracetamol


From em at preseli.com  Fri Oct 31 12:14:47 2014
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:14:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <54537D77.4000202@gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>
	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7PARaD6wOUodPJ3rkp634FGByNHruBCtC7pDB992vogyA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5450C547.30709@gmail.com> <5450CB01.8010906@aurinia.co.uk>
	<CAGAFX7NuUwRuGckMw=xEg82DD1gnWMyhotbCZCiW9JBUuVMfaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54537B7C.6020400@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MY+FVJC+d8ptbRpgHyp6oyXE+_06RqooViLeuvTCeptw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54537D77.4000202@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P+N4NiM7wYB5yGAjjg+E5YWuYb3yiDbeNRVH6ReS2s_g@mail.gmail.com>

you forgot the 37 different caf?s

On 31 October 2014 12:15, Ian Bullfrog <sevendev.tk at gmail.com> wrote:

> aw crap.
>
> thats why I couldnt get a reply when i called them to renew my library
> books-and to check on their closure dates.
> and shutting AND refurbishment?
> well, that sounds like a scam to tart the place up with local government
> funds before renting it out at a higher rate.
> and they CANT close it.....
>
> ...its the only vestige of Culture and learning left in the hot melting
> pot of vomit dripping alco-pop fuelled ,curry house,second hand shops and
> chemists for the aged and waiting to die metroplis that was once a thriving
> community (of heavy metal poisoned workers and alchoholics...but
> ......still........)
>
> there will be NO reason to go there if your sober any more.....unless you
> need a 2nd hand sofa and some paracetamol
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From sevendev.tk at gmail.com  Fri Oct 31 12:24:01 2014
From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:24:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7P+N4NiM7wYB5yGAjjg+E5YWuYb3yiDbeNRVH6ReS2s_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS164CD9419C9D54CFF0CAADAC6910@phx.gbl>	<544D8E20.7020604@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7OeXreY5fVV=Yicw_k75aiy7yxTZwsw2v9-r+9xjK_xPA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAJqsN4QTkU=uQgyBsxd88DBd8EUjkSume03i0CFA35pn=rym-g@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7PARaD6wOUodPJ3rkp634FGByNHruBCtC7pDB992vogyA@mail.gmail.com>	<5450C547.30709@gmail.com>
	<5450CB01.8010906@aurinia.co.uk>	<CAGAFX7NuUwRuGckMw=xEg82DD1gnWMyhotbCZCiW9JBUuVMfaw@mail.gmail.com>	<54537B7C.6020400@gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7MY+FVJC+d8ptbRpgHyp6oyXE+_06RqooViLeuvTCeptw@mail.gmail.com>	<54537D77.4000202@gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7P+N4NiM7wYB5yGAjjg+E5YWuYb3yiDbeNRVH6ReS2s_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54537F61.5040308@gmail.com>

On 31/10/2014 12:14, Emyr Morris wrote:
> you forgot the 37 different caf?s
>
ah yes....but you need the chemist again after most of them....mmm 
*wonders if they are running a cartel?*



From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 31 12:23:21 2014
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:23:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop
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Hi Ian,
As far as I'm aware there is no requirement to help fund the bigger tools.  I think its just the ?10 per month members fee.  Those that are funding the additional tools for the space arnt doing so because they have to, it just gets the things for the space quicker.  There is no requirement on any MEMBER other than the ?10.  I don't have a fob either and still have to get people to let me in, and I have to travel in from out of town too, so I understand your concerns.  As I understand it the problem is that there are middle men between the hackspace and the big green gates, which causes the keyfobs to take much longer to arrive than anyone in the hackspace would like because they need to be ordered from the building owners.

Thanks

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ian Bullfrog" <sevendev.tk at gmail.com>
Sent: ?31/?10/?2014 12:00
To: "Swansea Hackspace" <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi laptop

yeah, pity I missed it when it was just meeting up in places really.
milling machines and lasers and the like are very nice, Im sure, but I 
cant really afford to contribute towards them really and never got a 
keyfob so couldnt just roll in and do stuff with the printer as I 
couldnt seem to ever catch anyone there to get let in.
its a bit of a long trot down there to stare at a green gate.

I was waiting on the keyfob so that I couldnt actually start to use the 
space properly/internet access etc and use it for doing some webdev etc 
and hopefully get some work that way- I dont have internet at home, 
except via my phone.

so its back to the library for me.
which closes for 5 weeks...... from next week.
crap!

I just wanted to tinker with stuff at a lower hardware commitment level. 
making things out of recycled things etc.
still, the balcony was nice :)

catch you at some of the socials and maybe some workshops with donations.

good luck and bye for now.

ps. just giving some positive feedback for future cases to bear in mind 
with others at the lower end of the food chain/living distantly from the 
centre.


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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Fri Oct 31 14:42:19 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:42:19 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
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On 31/10/14 07:42, Graham Owens wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> I will be in Saturday if any keyholders are about that can open the 
> door, and could run an attempting to hack an Oregon scientific weather 
> station workshop ;)
>
> Also can I register for the spark.io event, as eventbrite uses some 
> kind of client side scripting that is preventing me from registering 
> from this device.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
Is there going to be something happeneng tomorrow?

Neil




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> From: Justin Mitchell <mailto:justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Sent: ?30/?10/?2014 21:11
> To: hackspace <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
>
> This Saturdays (1st Nov) Machine Sewing workshop is cancelled.
>
> Next scheduled workshop is
> Sat 15th Nov, Analogue Electronics with Tom Lake
>
> The spark.io build night for Sat 22nd nov is strictly tickets only due
> to the limited number of boards available. get them here.
> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/build-with-sparkio-tickets-14054672905
>
> If anyone else has the time and wants to fill one of the empty timeslots
> with any kind of workshop please come forward.
>
>
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Oct 31 17:49:43 2014
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:49:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
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On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 11:26 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:

> Will the hackspace keep the modules or will they be given to those
> attending? If it is possible that the space keeps at least one so
> members can try it out then that would be brilliant.

We would like to keep them as a resource for all members, to run future
workshops, and for people to experiment with.

As usual, the price for us having these nice toys is that we need to
post some instructables, this time they require just 2 projects.




From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Fri Oct 31 23:15:16 2014
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 23:15:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] upcoming events
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On 31/10/14 17:49, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 11:26 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
>> Will the hackspace keep the modules or will they be given to those
>> attending? If it is possible that the space keeps at least one so
>> members can try it out then that would be brilliant.
> We would like to keep them as a resource for all members, to run future
> workshops, and for people to experiment with.
>
> As usual, the price for us having these nice toys is that we need to
> post some instructables, this time they require just 2 projects.
>
Have we just been given the Spark Cores or maker kits?. See this video 
about 1 minute in for a description

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxda0hXtJz8

Neil