From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 1 10:39:37 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:39:37 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Make:Shift:Do Message-ID: <1409564377.28763.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> We should probably try to do something to coincide with this event, i should be running a workshop on that saturday anyway and maybe someone can volunteer to man the space on the friday so we can declare it 'open' to visitors. -Justin -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Invitation to participate in Make:Shift:Do We are currently working with the Crafts Council, The Institute of Making and the Digital Programmes at the V&A on a collaborative event titled Make:Shift:Do which is part of the Crafts Council?s wider Make:Shift conference taking place on 20 and 21 November 2014. Make:Shift is the Crafts Council?s new conference on innovation across materials, making and technologies with a focus on cross-sector collaboration and what a future landscape could look like for craft and making. Make:Shift:Do is a public facing event running in parallel to the main conference, aimed at highlighting the spaces of making and bringing together the existing networks of make spaces across the UK. It runs over Friday 21 and Saturday 22 November 2014, covering the second conference day and a weekend day to enable broader audiences to take part. We are inviting spaces to open their doors over these two days, run any activities that you normally would, or new ones if you like, and raise the profile of making in the UK. It is free to apply and take part. For more information and to apply follow this link: http://www.craftscouncil.org.uk/what-we-do/makeshiftdo We would encourage you to apply and register your space and activities as soon as you are able to so we can get your details online and visitors see the spaces taking part and book in advance. Please pass this on to other spaces you think would be interested and encourage them to apply, as there are many spaces we won?t know about and also want to help profile. From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 1 12:26:45 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 12:26:45 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Monday night socials Message-ID: <1409570805.28763.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> The regular Monday night social is back on track tonight, from 7pm as usual. We now have a fridge full of soft drinks to help things along (currently all 50p each) For those that have not yet collected their keyfob you can now use the '4th floor' buzzer to the right of the gate, and to the left of the door, to get in. See you there From sevendev.tk at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 19:13:29 2014 From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:13:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Monday night socials In-Reply-To: <1409570805.28763.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1409570805.28763.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <5404B749.7080900@gmail.com> Hi, I cant see me making it tonight. just got into house. info, here is another place Ive just started going. they have a funky little woodland setting building, and stuff. new build, firepit up the back etc. on the penclawdd road. just incase anyone needs a rural venue for anything, and they have good intentions at heart. ciao From em at preseli.com Mon Sep 1 22:00:04 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:00:04 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Monday night socials In-Reply-To: <1409570805.28763.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1409570805.28763.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: really glad that the funding for the upgrade to the 3d printer has been so successful enjoying watching the lads hard at work via the webcam at the time of writing :-) Don't you have homes to go to ;-) Thank you for welcoming Osian tonight! Emyr On 1 September 2014 12:26, Justin Mitchell wrote: > The regular Monday night social is back on track tonight, from 7pm as > usual. > > We now have a fridge full of soft drinks to help things along (currently > all 50p each) > > For those that have not yet collected their keyfob you can now use the > '4th floor' buzzer to the right of the gate, and to the left of the > door, to get in. > > See you there > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Mon Sep 1 22:20:08 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:20:08 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Make:Shift:Do In-Reply-To: <1409564377.28763.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1409564377.28763.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Thursday/Friday? I could volunteer to be there up to about 2pm, I have school runs on both days though so would have to leave at 2ish Em On 1 September 2014 10:39, Justin Mitchell wrote: > We should probably try to do something to coincide with this event, > i should be running a workshop on that saturday anyway and maybe someone > can volunteer to man the space on the friday so we can declare it 'open' > to visitors. > > -Justin > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: Invitation to participate in Make:Shift:Do > > > We are currently working with the Crafts Council, The Institute > of Making and the Digital Programmes at the V&A on a > collaborative event titled Make:Shift:Do which is part of > the Crafts Council?s wider Make:Shift conference taking place on > 20 and 21 November 2014. > > Make:Shift is the Crafts Council?s new conference on innovation > across materials, making and technologies with a focus on > cross-sector collaboration and what a future landscape could > look like for craft and making. > > Make:Shift:Do is a public facing event running in parallel to > the main conference, aimed at highlighting the spaces of making > and bringing together the existing networks of make spaces > across the UK. It runs over Friday 21 and Saturday 22 November > 2014, covering the second conference day and a weekend day to > enable broader audiences to take part. > > We are inviting spaces to open their doors over these two days, > run any activities that you normally would, or new ones if you > like, and raise the profile of making in the UK. It is free to > apply and take part. > > For more information and to apply follow this link: > > http://www.craftscouncil.org.uk/what-we-do/makeshiftdo > > We would encourage you to apply and register your space and > activities as soon as you are able to so we can get your details > online and visitors see the spaces taking part and book in > advance. > > Please pass this on to other spaces you think would be > interested and encourage them to apply, as there are many spaces > we won?t know about and also want to help profile. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 1 22:55:58 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:55:58 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Monday night socials In-Reply-To: References: <1409570805.28763.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1409608558.8509.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 22:00 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > really glad that the funding for the upgrade to the 3d printer has > been so successful > > > enjoying watching the lads hard at work via the webcam at the time of > writing :-) Don't you have homes to go to ;-) but but home doesn't have a 3d printer in it... ;) From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 1 23:18:39 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David davies) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 23:18:39 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swansea Hackspace] Monday night socials Message-ID: Very true, my home does not have a 3d printer either. I'm pretty sure I've missed one, maybe two months membership payments, can you let me know what I owe please? I have not been getting any of the main emails from the hackspace, like this afternoon's one about there being a social tonight. I am getting people replies though, which is odd. Justin Mitchell wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 22:00 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > really glad that the funding for the upgrade to the 3d printer has > been so successful > > > enjoying watching the lads hard at work via the webcam at the time of > writing :-) Don't you have homes to go to ;-) but but home doesn't have a 3d printer in it... ;) _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From paul at harwood-leon.com Tue Sep 2 00:11:51 2014 From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:11:51 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swansea Hackspace] Monday night socials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can I suggest that the mailing list default reply-to address be hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk ? This works very well for other mailing lists I am a member of, it encourages open discussion and debate. Just a thought? ? Paul On 1 Sep 2014, at 23:18, David davies wrote: > Very true, my home does not have a 3d printer either. > > I'm pretty sure I've missed one, maybe two months membership payments, can you let me know what I owe please? > > I have not been getting any of the main emails from the hackspace, like this afternoon's one about there being a social tonight. I am getting people replies though, which is odd. > > > > Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 22:00 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: >> really glad that the funding for the upgrade to the 3d printer has >> been so successful >> >> >> enjoying watching the lads hard at work via the webcam at the time of >> writing :-) Don't you have homes to go to ;-) > > but but home doesn't have a 3d printer in it... ;) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From eclipse at sucs.org Thu Sep 4 20:44:33 2014 From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 20:44:33 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D Printer Upgrades Message-ID: <5408C121.10208@sucs.org> Good News Everybody, We have reached our 3D Printer upgrades goal, and have reached the upgraded electronics stretch goal. If people who have pledged can pay their money either in person (make sure you get a receipt) or by bank transfer then we can get on and spend the money on the shopping list. The details you need to pay are on the funding page, once you have paid please mark as such: http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/RepRapNozzel If you have yet to pledge/pay then you can still pledge towards the other stretech golas of getting stock of ningaflex and a disolvable support filament. Tim From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 4 23:24:07 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:24:07 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D Printer Upgrades In-Reply-To: <5408C121.10208@sucs.org> References: <5408C121.10208@sucs.org> Message-ID: Brilliant, well done. Thank you On Thursday, 4 September 2014, Tim wrote: > Good News Everybody, > We have reached our 3D Printer upgrades goal, and have reached the > upgraded electronics stretch goal. > > If people who have pledged can pay their money either in person (make sure > you get a receipt) or by bank transfer then we can get on and spend the > money on the shopping list. The details you need to pay are on the funding > page, once you have paid please mark as such: > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/RepRapNozzel > > If you have yet to pledge/pay then you can still pledge towards the other > stretech golas of getting stock of ningaflex and a disolvable support > filament. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 8 10:48:11 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:48:11 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest Message-ID: <1410169691.6966.21.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th. http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk I still need volunteers for the following :- 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the event. 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most specific things right now. thanks From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk Mon Sep 8 11:19:27 2014 From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:19:27 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest In-Reply-To: <1410169691.6966.21.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1410169691.6966.21.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I think the only one I can offer to help with is number two...... On 8 September 2014 10:48, Justin Mitchell wrote: > Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th. > > http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk > > I still need volunteers for the following :- > > 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within > Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the > event. > > 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk > > 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room > > There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most > specific things right now. > thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Kind regards, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 8 September 2014 11:19, Richard Morgan wrote: > I think the only one I can offer to help with is number two...... > > On 8 September 2014 10:48, Justin Mitchell < > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > >> Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th. >> >> http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk >> >> I still need volunteers for the following :- >> >> 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within >> Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the >> event. >> >> 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk >> >> 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room >> >> There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most >> specific things right now. >> thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 12:14:01 2014 From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:14:01 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest In-Reply-To: <1410169691.6966.21.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1410169691.6966.21.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <4E06406E-2128-424F-9FCD-DD17B16A1A5A@gmail.com> Hi, I?ll do a talk on ?Why hackspaces are cool?, let?s say around 20 minutes long. Cheers, Gerrit On 8 Sep 2014, at 10:48, Justin Mitchell wrote: > Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th. > > http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk > > I still need volunteers for the following :- > > 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within > Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the > event. > > 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk > > 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room > > There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most > specific things right now. > thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 13:14:04 2014 From: testsubjectnamehere at gmail.com (Pie) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:14:04 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Preparing for SWAMP fest In-Reply-To: <4E06406E-2128-424F-9FCD-DD17B16A1A5A@gmail.com> References: <1410169691.6966.21.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <4E06406E-2128-424F-9FCD-DD17B16A1A5A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Haha, I like the sound of that. Pierre On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > Hi, > > I?ll do a talk on ?Why hackspaces are cool?, let?s say around 20 minutes > long. > > Cheers, > Gerrit > > On 8 Sep 2014, at 10:48, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > > > Quick reminder that SWAMP Fest is happening on Sat Oct 11th. > > > > http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk > > > > I still need volunteers for the following :- > > > > 1) Anyone with access to a van to help us collect and return (within > > Swansea) some 8ft trellis tables anytime in the week prior & after the > > event. > > > > 2) Someone to give a 'What is a Hackspace' talk > > > > 3) Anyone with an interesting project to exhibit in the main room > > > > There will be more general helpers required, but those are the most > > specific things right now. > > thanks > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 8 21:17:13 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:17:13 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London Message-ID: How do I find the printer cam? I didn't know we had one yet. No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London
Cheeky On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan wrote: > Loving whatever is being printed! > > Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam is better > than the room cam! > > ;-) > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 8 21:33:56 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:33:56 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1410208436.6966.63.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> http://reprap.swansea.hackspace.org.uk the 'control' tab shows you the live picture. we unplug the printer after use, so dont try to submit any print jobs remotely now.. :) (actually doing that would be dangerous, too much opportunity for a print to go wrong and cause a fire risk) On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 21:17 +0100, djdavies83 wrote: > How do I find the printer cam? > > > I didn't know we had one yet. > > > > > No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several > thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Emyr Morris > Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) > To: Swansea Hackspace > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London > > > Cheeky > > On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan > wrote: > Loving whatever is being printed! > > > Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam > is better than the room cam! > > > ;-) > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk Mon Sep 8 21:41:55 2014 From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:41:55 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Under the 3D Printer menu item - See our Printer in Action On Monday, 8 September 2014, djdavies83 wrote: > How do I find the printer cam? > > I didn't know we had one yet. > > > No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several > thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Emyr Morris > Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) > To: Swansea Hackspace > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London > > Cheeky > > On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan < > richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk > > wrote: > > Loving whatever is being printed! > > Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam is better > than the room cam! > > ;-) > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > -- Kind regards, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 8 22:40:18 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:40:18 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London Message-ID: Thanks for the replies on printer viewing, I won't send any print jobs while I'm not there. I don't know how to print while I am there yet so now chance of me even thinking about a remote job. I can see the bed light blonking away now, no jobs on though. What was that thing on the table earlier? Was it some kind of cnc or plotter? No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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Date:08/09/2014 21:42 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London
Under the 3D Printer menu item - See our Printer in Action On Monday, 8 September 2014, djdavies83 wrote: > How do I find the printer cam? > > I didn't know we had one yet. > > > No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several > thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Emyr Morris > Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) > To: Swansea Hackspace > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London > > Cheeky > > On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan < > richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk > > wrote: > > Loving whatever is being printed! > > Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam is better > than the room cam! > > ;-) > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > -- Kind regards, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From em at preseli.com Mon Sep 8 23:57:46 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:57:46 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it was a work in progress by Ceri, the top of a new 3d printer he is designing... I am sure he will explain in his own words when he gets online - but it is very clever, using two belts working in opposite directions to prevent skewing of the printer bed On 8 September 2014 22:40, djdavies83 wrote: > Thanks for the replies on printer viewing, I won't send any print jobs > while I'm not there. I don't know how to print while I am there yet so now > chance of me even thinking about a remote job. > > I can see the bed light blonking away now, no jobs on though. > > What was that thing on the table earlier? Was it some kind of cnc or > plotter? > > > No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several > thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Richard Morgan > Date:08/09/2014 21:42 (GMT+00:00) > To: Swansea Hackspace > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London > > Under the 3D Printer menu item - See our Printer in Action > > On Monday, 8 September 2014, djdavies83 wrote: > > How do I find the printer cam? > > I didn't know we had one yet. > > > No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several > thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Emyr Morris > Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) > To: Swansea Hackspace > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London > > Cheeky > > On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan < > richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote: > > Loving whatever is being printed! > > Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam is better > than the room cam! > > ;-) > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 08:56:37 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:56:37 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DMX512 - DCC Message-ID: How weird .... Last night there was more discussion about DMX512 and its use in model railways, look at what was posted recently, DMX512 code in an MBED - 8 pin ARM device !!!!! http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/code/DMX/ Cheers Ceri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 09:16:00 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 09:16:00 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks :) this is my second go at building a CORE X-Y style printer, Formally a 'H-BOT' design, (blue parts) that I started when Hackers was still in the university !! The advantage (hopefully) is that there are two belts, one giver clockwise twist to the carriage, the other gives CCW twist to the carriage - with the hot end attached. Hopefully, the two twisting forces will cancel each other out, whereas on the 'H-BOT' design, the twisting force is CW/CCW for +X/-X therefore causing jamming !! So far there are 7 parts, of which only 4 are unique. excluding 1 part - repeated 8 times, which is a sleeve for some bearings, - not sure if I really need them, or if I can engineer them out ? To design & print: Dolly, with Hot-End mount, and belt 'tie-offs' Z upper mount, with Lead-screw stepper mount, Z lower mount, with Lead-screw bushing, Z carriage, Table mount. will use my extruder design : http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:292836 Tim counted the parts on 'our' printer, and he lost count at 35 !!!!! Cheers, and thanks for watching Ceri On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Emyr Morris wrote: > it was a work in progress by Ceri, the top of a new 3d printer he is > designing... I am sure he will explain in his own words when he gets online > - but it is very clever, using two belts working in opposite directions to > prevent skewing of the printer bed > > On 8 September 2014 22:40, djdavies83 wrote: > >> Thanks for the replies on printer viewing, I won't send any print jobs >> while I'm not there. I don't know how to print while I am there yet so now >> chance of me even thinking about a remote job. >> >> I can see the bed light blonking away now, no jobs on though. >> >> What was that thing on the table earlier? Was it some kind of cnc or >> plotter? >> >> >> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several >> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Richard Morgan >> Date:08/09/2014 21:42 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Swansea Hackspace >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London >> >> Under the 3D Printer menu item - See our Printer in Action >> >> On Monday, 8 September 2014, djdavies83 wrote: >> >> How do I find the printer cam? >> >> I didn't know we had one yet. >> >> >> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several >> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Emyr Morris >> Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Swansea Hackspace >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London >> >> Cheeky >> >> On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan < >> richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Loving whatever is being printed! >> >> Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam is better >> than the room cam! >> >> ;-) >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> -- >> Mob: 07836 267426 >> >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. >> >> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt >> yn unig. >> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Tue Sep 9 10:21:02 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 10:21:02 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming Events Message-ID: <1410254462.16851.8.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Friday 12th September 7pm onwards Build Night with SUGRU https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/build-night-with-sugru-tickets-12489561615 Saturday 13th September 11am-3pm 3D Printing with OpenSCAD by Gerrit Niezen Saturday 27th September 11am-3pm Basic Electronics - Transistors, resistors, LEDs and more... Saturday 11th October - 10am - 5pm SWAMP Fest - Family friendly open day for local maker and coder groups Schedules for some of the taster workshops are now up http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk From neil at aurinia.co.uk Tue Sep 9 13:30:16 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:30:16 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1410265816.540ef2d8234a3@swift.generated> ON 09:16, 9TH SEP 2014, CERI CLATWORTHY WROTE: Thanks :) this is my second go at building a CORE X-Y style printer, Formally a H-BOT design, (blue parts) that I started when Hackers was still in the university !! The advantage (hopefully) is that there are two belts, one giver clockwise twist to the carriage, the other gives CCW twist to the carriage - with the hot end attached. ------------------------------------------- So Ceri, something like this is it? http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,372427,399574 [1] What is the cost like? Neil ------------------------ Hopefully, the two twisting forces will cancel each other out, whereas on the H-BOT design, the twisting force is CW/CCW for +X/-X therefore causing jamming !! So far there are 7 parts, of which only 4 are unique. excluding 1 part - repeated 8 times, which is a sleeve for some bearings, - not sure if I really need them, or if I can engineer them out ? To design & print: Dolly, with Hot-End mount, and belt tie-offs Z upper mount, with Lead-screw stepper mount, Z lower mount, with Lead-screw bushing, Z carriage, Table mount. will use my extruder design : http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:292836 [2] Tim counted the parts on our printer, and he lost count at 35 !!!!! Cheers, and thanks for watching Ceri On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Emyr Morris wrote: it was a work in progress by Ceri, the top of a new 3d printer he is designing... I am sure he will explain in his own words when he gets online - but it is very clever, using two belts working in opposite directions to prevent skewing of the printer bed On 8 September 2014 22:40, djdavies83 wrote: Thanks for the replies on printer viewing, I wont send any print jobs while Im not there. I dont know how to print while I am there yet so now chance of me even thinking about a remote job. I can see the bed light blonking away now, no jobs on though. What was that thing on the table earlier? Was it some kind of cnc or plotter? No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. -------- Original message -------- From: Richard Morgan Date:08/09/2014 21:42 (GMT+00:00) To: Swansea Hackspace Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London Under the 3D Printer menu item - See our Printer in Action On Monday, 8 September 2014, djdavies83 wrote: How do I find the printer cam? I didnt know we had one yet. No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. -------- Original message -------- From: Emyr Morris Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) To: Swansea Hackspace Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London Cheeky On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan wrote: Loving whatever is being printed! Viewing the Social Night from the train and the printer cam is better than the room cam! ;-) -- Kind regards, Richard -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Maer e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neur corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -- Kind regards, Richard _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [6] http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace [7] -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Maer e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neur corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [8] http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace [9] Links: ------ [1] http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,372427,399574 [2] http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:292836 [3] http://emailpro3.freeola.com/webmail/compose?to%5B%5D=em at preseli.com [4] http://emailpro3.freeola.com/webmail/compose&to%5B%5D=djdavies83 at hotmail.com [5] http://emailpro3.freeola.com/webmail/compose?to%5B%5D=djdavies83 at hotmail.com [6] http://emailpro3.freeola.com/webmail/compose?to%5B%5D=Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [7] http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace [8] http://emailpro3.freeola.com/webmail/compose?to%5B%5D=Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [9] http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 14:04:14 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:04:14 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London In-Reply-To: <1410265816.540ef2d8234a3@swift.generated> References: <1410265816.540ef2d8234a3@swift.generated> Message-ID: So far the costs for this one, will be minimal, I have 2 spare motors for A/B motion (generating X/Y motion) I am "looking after" a Lead-Screw motor, and I have bits which i am re-cycling in !! I still need a strong motor for the extruder. My biggest cost is going to be the 'BOX' ... a cupboard might have to commit suicide to help. I don't think I can afford 12 (if you buy 16, then cost of 11 !!!!!!!!!!! ) http://www.technobotsonline.com/openbeam-300mm-long-clear-anodised-beam.html ?40 owch !!! On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Neil Jones wrote: > > *On 09:16, 9th Sep 2014, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:* > > Thanks :) > > this is my second go at building a CORE X-Y style printer,? > Formally a 'H-BOT' design, (blue parts) that I started when Hackers was > still in the university !! > > > The advantage (hopefully) is that there are two belts, one giver clockwise > twist to the carriage, > the other gives CCW twist to the carriage - with the hot end attached. > ------------------------------------------- > So Ceri, something like this is it? > > http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,372427,399574 > > What is the cost like? > > Neil > > > ------------------------ > Hopefully, the two twisting forces will cancel each other out,? > whereas on the 'H-BOT' design, the twisting force is CW/CCW for +X/-X? > therefore causing jamming !! > > So far there are 7 parts, of which only 4 are unique. > excluding 1 part - repeated 8 times, which is a sleeve for some bearings, > - not sure if I really need them, or if I can engineer them out ? > > To design & print: > > Dolly, with Hot-End mount, and belt 'tie-offs' > > Z upper mount, with Lead-screw stepper mount, > Z lower mount, with Lead-screw bushing, > Z carriage, > Table mount. > > will use my extruder ? design :? http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:292836 > > Tim counted the parts on 'our' printer, and he lost count at 35 !!!!! > > Cheers, and thanks for watching > > Ceri > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Emyr Morris > wrote: > >> it was a work in progress by Ceri, the top of a new 3d printer he is >> designing... I am sure he will explain in his own words when he gets online >> - but it is very clever, using two belts working in opposite directions to >> prevent skewing of the printer bed >> >> On 8 September 2014 22:40, djdavies83 wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the replies on printer viewing, I won't send any print jobs >>> while I'm not there. I don't know how to print while I am there yet so now >>> chance of me even thinking about a remote job. >>> >>> I can see the bed light blonking away now, no jobs on though. >>> >>> What was that thing on the table earlier? Was it some kind of cnc or >>> plotter? >>> >>> >>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several >>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Richard Morgan >>> Date:08/09/2014 21:42 (GMT+00:00) >>> To: Swansea Hackspace >>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London >>> >>> Under the 3D Printer menu item - See our Printer in Action >>> >>> On Monday, 8 September 2014, djdavies83 >> > wrote: >>> >>> How do I find the printer cam? >>> >>> I didn't know we had one yet. >>> >>> >>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several >>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Emyr Morris >>> Date:08/09/2014 20:52 (GMT+00:00) >>> To: Swansea Hackspace >>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] On train from London >>> >>> Cheeky >>> >>> On Monday, 8 September 2014, Richard Morgan < >>> richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Loving whatever is being printed!? >>> >>> Viewing the 'Social Night' from the train and the printer cam is better >>> than the room cam! >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mob: 07836 267426 >>> >>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >>> addressed. >>> ? >>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt >>> yn unig. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Richard >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hackspace mailing list >>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >>> >>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mob: 07836 267426 >> >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. >> ? >> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt >> yn unig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 08:59:13 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:59:13 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Big ask to charge laptop my phone If I remember 450 mA tablets about 1 to 1.5 Amp Laptop could be 3 - 4 Amps as for a battery, then a some 18650 type batteries ?? 40000 mA/H (4 A/H) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> http://www.banggood.com/4PCS-UltraFire-18650-4000mAh-3_7V-High-Quanlity-Rechargeable-Battery-p-87803.html although some *serious *power path management will be required, and a good level of safety - electrical, mechanical will be needed, because in the wrong hands, it's an incendiary device !! Ceri On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Richard Morgan < richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote: > Hi All, > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a priority. > > This is the kind of thing > http://www.mophie.com/shop/mophie-juice-pack-powerstation-duo-smart-phones-tablets but > it won't power a laptop. > > Need it to: > - Fit in the backpack (i.e. not too big and heavy) > - Fast charging for the stuff I charge off of it via USB > - Indicator to show how much power is left > - Able to charge a laptop (ideally able to provide power to the laptop) > > Has anyone come across a project page that talks of doing something > similar? > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From em at preseli.com Fri Sep 12 09:11:18 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:11:18 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Osian and I are psyched up... we have two small projects, nothing ground breaking - one repair and one modification to a nerf gun On 12 September 2014 09:08, Richard Morgan wrote: > I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple of > breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. > > Who else is going? > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Fri Sep 12 09:12:18 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:12:18 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1410509538.22048.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 07:50 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote: > Hi All, > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a > priority. Laptops have some pretty crazy and varied voltage inputs, so purely off the shelf parts is unlikely. You'd need a fairly large LiPo battery, but these are cheap and easy to get from the likes of HobbyKing Charging, your going to need a fairly sophisticated multi-cell lithium charging circuit, preferably one with a thermistor and auto-shutoff if it starts to over-heat. as charging is the most dangerous point. for discharge, either you have enough cells to get close to the right voltage, or you use a custom switch mode psu circuit, or a buck convertor, linear regulators suck for efficiency. but i'm no expert, and this is a project i would be wary of working on. if you were to bodge something simple, use a stand alone dedicated charger for the battery, and then just build, possibly from off the shelf parts, the dc output stage, it would be a lot simpler. From em at preseli.com Fri Sep 12 09:13:28 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:13:28 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I chatted with a friend about tonight's build night, he showed me his repair to his car key (combined remote control) - the rubber over the buttons had perished. He put a small thin sheet of plastic over the hole then covered it with Sugru - he now has a perfect car key/remote again - that is worthy of a project tonight if anybody has a broken car key - all of mine are good at the moment! On 12 September 2014 09:11, Emyr Morris wrote: > Osian and I are psyched up... > > we have two small projects, nothing ground breaking - one repair and one > modification to a nerf gun > > On 12 September 2014 09:08, Richard Morgan > wrote: > >> I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple of >> breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. >> >> Who else is going? >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 09:13:35 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:13:35 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Me & my mould On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Emyr Morris wrote: > Osian and I are psyched up... > > we have two small projects, nothing ground breaking - one repair and one > modification to a nerf gun > > On 12 September 2014 09:08, Richard Morgan > wrote: > >> I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple of >> breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. >> >> Who else is going? >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eclipse at sucs.org Fri Sep 12 09:22:29 2014 From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:22:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] bearings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5412AD45.6060709@sucs.org> That would be very helpful, they are on the shopping list and I was investigating places to source them yesterday. Tim On 12/09/2014 09:01, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > I have got some 608ZZ 22 OD, 6 ID 7 Thick > if required for printer upgrade. > > Ceri > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eclipse at sucs.org Fri Sep 12 09:26:20 2014 From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:26:20 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5412AE2C.2000702@sucs.org> I plan to show up and use it to fix all the unintentionally lose bits on the printer. Tim On 12/09/2014 09:08, Richard Morgan wrote: > I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple > of breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. > > Who else is going? > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 09:42:51 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:42:51 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] bearings In-Reply-To: <5412AD45.6060709@sucs.org> References: <5412AD45.6060709@sucs.org> Message-ID: I have FIVE in my pocket (in a container) Is that enough ? Cer On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Tim Clark wrote: > That would be very helpful, they are on the shopping list and I was > investigating places to source them yesterday. > > Tim > > On 12/09/2014 09:01, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > > I have got some 608ZZ 22 OD, 6 ID 7 Thick > if required for printer upgrade. > > Ceri > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tim On 12/09/2014 09:42, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > I have FIVE in my pocket (in a container) > > Is that enough ? > > Cer > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Tim Clark > wrote: > > That would be very helpful, they are on the shopping list and I > was investigating places to source them yesterday. > > Tim > > On 12/09/2014 09:01, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: >> I have got some 608ZZ 22 OD, 6 ID 7 Thick >> if required for printer upgrade. >> >> Ceri >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Fri Sep 12 09:53:45 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:53:45 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: <1410509538.22048.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1410509538.22048.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Long post warning - Batteries are a bit of a passion of mine... these little battery packs you linked to are wonderful - I have a 'waterproof' one from Maplin for my iPhone etc - I used parenthesis because it isn't waterproof by any stretch of the imagination! http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-waterproof-power-bank-7800mah-n03qn I bought mine when it was on offer - I paid 19 quid for it - well worth keeping an eye on their special offers - a couple times a year they have something really good in their 'powerbank' section. Apple iPhone/iPad chargers deliver 2.1A for a fast charge - the good car chargers from the likes of Belkin will also offer 2.1A The 'easiest' way to charge a laptop is from 240VAC using the supplied mains charger - and the safest batteries to use in a 'project' are SLA (Sealed Lead Acid) - Lithium battery packs used incorrectly _can_ explode. This is a dire warning - misuse of LiIon or LiPo can and will result in fire and possibly an explosion! In my line of work we tend to put SLA batteries into small Peli Cases - we often build the charging circuitry into the same Peli Mike Harries (top bloke) has this page of examples - http://www.mikesfilmsound.com/new_batterys%20&%20ChargersQ.htm We use 4pin XLRs for 12V in Film & TV - Pin 1 (negative) and can you guess yet? Yes, pin 4 for positive (because they look like a '-' and '+') source always on Female connectors - and equipment always on Male. A tidy sized SLA could power a 200W - 300W inverter for a while, enough to power your laptop. These are also very handy (search for LM2596 on eBay or Ali Express), they take any DC volts from 4V to 40V and you can set it to output any DC voltage from 1.25V to 37V. They are a bit noisy as DC-DC regulators are prone to be, but you could filter that if it became a problem (if you were to use one to power a small audio amp for example or a ham radio TX) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM2596-LED-Voltage-Regulator-DC-DC-Buck-Adjustable-Step-Down-Converter-Module-/161206839226 This one is interesting, it has a current limiting option on it, useful for charging a small battery http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Power-LM2577S-LM2596S-DC-DC-Step-Up-Down-Boost-Buck-Voltage-Converter-Module-/371050459165 Their perfect use is for making 5V to provide volts for USB sockets! Talking about USB sockets, I like these... ready built... and cheep and a total of 3A for both sockets http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-Converter-Module-12V-To-5V-3A-15W-Dual-USB-Output-Power-Adapter-OZ-/321460838700 A Peli case with a nice big battery inside peppered with these would provide an excellent power source for a long camping weekend for the whole family... you could even fill the lid of the Peli with some strips of LEDs to provide in-tent lighting! This should be chunky enough to power a laptop http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300W-Watt-Car-Battery-Power-Inverter-Auto-DC-12V-To-AC-230V-USB-Adapter-Voltage-/151262613703 Remember that at 300W - with a 12V source, you will draw 25A from your batter!!!! (can you see why LiPo is now a very bad idea?) So for two hours use you will need at least a 50Ah battery that is capable of delivering 25A constantly... (a tall ask) We are almost in the realm of a caravan Leisure Battery already - 100Ah and deep cycle - and certainly not something that you will want in your rucksack for your train commute to London If you power your laptop while it is fully charged then the inverter wouldn't have to work so hard... simply powering your laptop. On the other hand if you run your laptop until it is flat, then plug in to your inverter - your inverter would have to power the laptop AND charge it at the same time... At 240V, each amp drawn is 240W - starting to get critical here... Some laptops manage this better - my old dell would draw 3.5A (Almost a kilowatt) from mains regardless if the battery was full or not - but if I took the battery out and just powered it from the mains, the current draw would be down to as little as 0.5A (120W) from the mains... My Apple Macbook Pro seems to be very power efficient, only drawing what is absolutely necessary - I will plug it into an ammeter one day and do some better checks. Going back to the SLA batteries - most of these are designed to stay at full charge - for example in your home burglar alarm where they are trickle charged all the time - these can not withstand being discharged until flat and recharged to full time after time... for this application you would need a deep cycle battery (leisure battery) - these are more expensive! It is worth watching out for the chaps who come to service the UPS power supplied in your office - they should change the batteries in UPS at least every two years - as long there hasn't been a prolonged power outage in that time those batteries should have some life in them. They can be 12V 30Ah or 12V 100Ah batteries... and they will be glad to give them to you FOC as they are a pain to get rid of in big quantities. Nine times out of ten they are worth having, but don't expect them to last years... 12 months will be good. And you will be able to dispose of a couple at a time at your local dump I did warn you it would be a long one! LOL see you later Emyr On 12 September 2014 09:12, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 07:50 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and > > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a > > priority. > > Laptops have some pretty crazy and varied voltage inputs, so purely off > the shelf parts is unlikely. > > You'd need a fairly large LiPo battery, but these are cheap and easy to > get from the likes of HobbyKing > > Charging, your going to need a fairly sophisticated multi-cell lithium > charging circuit, preferably one with a thermistor and auto-shutoff if > it starts to over-heat. as charging is the most dangerous point. > > for discharge, either you have enough cells to get close to the right > voltage, or you use a custom switch mode psu circuit, or a buck > convertor, linear regulators suck for efficiency. > > but i'm no expert, and this is a project i would be wary of working on. > > if you were to bodge something simple, use a stand alone dedicated > charger for the battery, and then just build, possibly from off the > shelf parts, the dc output stage, it would be a lot simpler. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 10:28:22 2014 From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:28:22 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: <1410509538.22048.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <400DB202-35CB-4DAF-85FD-2E7CB3C9E87A@gmail.com> Would anyone be willing to throw up a reference page on the hackspace wiki for batteries? I for one would love to know what battery and charger I should be using for the syringe pump I?m building (somewhere between 5V and 10V, let?s say 1A @ 5V). On 12 Sep 2014, at 09:53, Emyr Morris wrote: > Long post warning - Batteries are a bit of a passion of mine... > > these little battery packs you linked to are wonderful - I have a 'waterproof' one from Maplin for my iPhone etc - I used parenthesis because it isn't waterproof by any stretch of the imagination! > > http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-waterproof-power-bank-7800mah-n03qn > > I bought mine when it was on offer - I paid 19 quid for it - well worth keeping an eye on their special offers - a couple times a year they have something really good in their 'powerbank' section. > > Apple iPhone/iPad chargers deliver 2.1A for a fast charge - the good car chargers from the likes of Belkin will also offer 2.1A > > The 'easiest' way to charge a laptop is from 240VAC using the supplied mains charger - and the safest batteries to use in a 'project' are SLA (Sealed Lead Acid) - Lithium battery packs used incorrectly _can_ explode. > > This is a dire warning - misuse of LiIon or LiPo can and will result in fire and possibly an explosion! > > In my line of work we tend to put SLA batteries into small Peli Cases - we often build the charging circuitry into the same Peli > > Mike Harries (top bloke) has this page of examples - http://www.mikesfilmsound.com/new_batterys%20&%20ChargersQ.htm > > We use 4pin XLRs for 12V in Film & TV - Pin 1 (negative) and can you guess yet? Yes, pin 4 for positive (because they look like a '-' and '+') source always on Female connectors - and equipment always on Male. > > A tidy sized SLA could power a 200W - 300W inverter for a while, enough to power your laptop. > > These are also very handy (search for LM2596 on eBay or Ali Express), they take any DC volts from 4V to 40V and you can set it to output any DC voltage from 1.25V to 37V. > They are a bit noisy as DC-DC regulators are prone to be, but you could filter that if it became a problem (if you were to use one to power a small audio amp for example or a ham radio TX) > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM2596-LED-Voltage-Regulator-DC-DC-Buck-Adjustable-Step-Down-Converter-Module-/161206839226 > > This one is interesting, it has a current limiting option on it, useful for charging a small battery > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Power-LM2577S-LM2596S-DC-DC-Step-Up-Down-Boost-Buck-Voltage-Converter-Module-/371050459165 > > Their perfect use is for making 5V to provide volts for USB sockets! > > Talking about USB sockets, I like these... ready built... and cheep and a total of 3A for both sockets > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-Converter-Module-12V-To-5V-3A-15W-Dual-USB-Output-Power-Adapter-OZ-/321460838700 > > A Peli case with a nice big battery inside peppered with these would provide an excellent power source for a long camping weekend for the whole family... you could even fill the lid of the Peli with some strips of LEDs to provide in-tent lighting! > > This should be chunky enough to power a laptop > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300W-Watt-Car-Battery-Power-Inverter-Auto-DC-12V-To-AC-230V-USB-Adapter-Voltage-/151262613703 > > Remember that at 300W - with a 12V source, you will draw 25A from your batter!!!! (can you see why LiPo is now a very bad idea?) So for two hours use you will need at least a 50Ah battery that is capable of delivering 25A constantly... (a tall ask) > > We are almost in the realm of a caravan Leisure Battery already - 100Ah and deep cycle - and certainly not something that you will want in your rucksack for your train commute to London > > If you power your laptop while it is fully charged then the inverter wouldn't have to work so hard... simply powering your laptop. On the other hand if you run your laptop until it is flat, then plug in to your inverter - your inverter would have to power the laptop AND charge it at the same time... At 240V, each amp drawn is 240W - starting to get critical here... > > Some laptops manage this better - my old dell would draw 3.5A (Almost a kilowatt) from mains regardless if the battery was full or not - but if I took the battery out and just powered it from the mains, the current draw would be down to as little as 0.5A (120W) from the mains... My Apple Macbook Pro seems to be very power efficient, only drawing what is absolutely necessary - I will plug it into an ammeter one day and do some better checks. > > Going back to the SLA batteries - most of these are designed to stay at full charge - for example in your home burglar alarm where they are trickle charged all the time - these can not withstand being discharged until flat and recharged to full time after time... for this application you would need a deep cycle battery (leisure battery) - these are more expensive! > > It is worth watching out for the chaps who come to service the UPS power supplied in your office - they should change the batteries in UPS at least every two years - as long there hasn't been a prolonged power outage in that time those batteries should have some life in them. > > They can be 12V 30Ah or 12V 100Ah batteries... and they will be glad to give them to you FOC as they are a pain to get rid of in big quantities. Nine times out of ten they are worth having, but don't expect them to last years... 12 months will be good. And you will be able to dispose of a couple at a time at your local dump > > I did warn you it would be a long one! LOL > > see you later > > Emyr > > > > > On 12 September 2014 09:12, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 07:50 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and > > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a > > priority. > > Laptops have some pretty crazy and varied voltage inputs, so purely off > the shelf parts is unlikely. > > You'd need a fairly large LiPo battery, but these are cheap and easy to > get from the likes of HobbyKing > > Charging, your going to need a fairly sophisticated multi-cell lithium > charging circuit, preferably one with a thermistor and auto-shutoff if > it starts to over-heat. as charging is the most dangerous point. > > for discharge, either you have enough cells to get close to the right > voltage, or you use a custom switch mode psu circuit, or a buck > convertor, linear regulators suck for efficiency. > > but i'm no expert, and this is a project i would be wary of working on. > > if you were to bodge something simple, use a stand alone dedicated > charger for the battery, and then just build, possibly from off the > shelf parts, the dc output stage, it would be a lot simpler. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at aurinia.co.uk Fri Sep 12 10:30:41 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:30:41 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5412BD41.4030702@aurinia.co.uk> On 12/09/14 09:08, Richard Morgan wrote: > I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple > of breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. > > Who else is going? > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard I am unsure if I am able to make it tonight yet. I do have a couple of small ideas that may be useful. As I understand it we are supposed also to be looking for things that can be used for the writing up of instructibles. Having looked at it. One of my little projects might be useful even possibly both. I will put my thinking cap on for further ideas. There are lots of things this stuff is useful for and I can see myself using it quite a bit. It is just I am not ready to do them yet. Neil From justin at discordia.org.uk Fri Sep 12 10:33:39 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:33:39 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: <400DB202-35CB-4DAF-85FD-2E7CB3C9E87A@gmail.com> References: <1410509538.22048.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <400DB202-35CB-4DAF-85FD-2E7CB3C9E87A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1410514419.23337.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 10:28 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > Would anyone be willing to throw up a reference page on the hackspace > wiki for batteries? The Projects/ subsection of the site is open for anyone to add pages to if they want to add content. I need to reorganise the various tutorials and other reference stuff sometime as well, so we can add more basic electronics reference materials etc, any suggestions for a suitable title for such a section? From neil at aurinia.co.uk Fri Sep 12 10:42:00 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:42:00 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5412BFE8.70706@aurinia.co.uk> On 12/09/14 07:50, Richard Morgan wrote: > Hi All, > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a > priority. > > This is the kind of thing > http://www.mophie.com/shop/mophie-juice-pack-powerstation-duo-smart-phones-tablets but > it won't power a laptop. > As others are saying it is not an easy project. There are commercial products available that do the laptop job E.g http://www.thebatterygeeks.com/External-Laptop-Batteries-for-PC-Mac-Tablets-s/1.htm As for the example you give that is really expensive for what it is. I have a 6000mAh battery that I carry around as back up for my phone. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EAOGZNI/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item It is a fraction of the price of the one you link to. Less than a quarter I think. Granted it only has one output but there are others available with two output sockets. It will power a tablet or a phone. Neil From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk Fri Sep 12 11:33:57 2014 From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:33:57 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6342D998A@ISS-MBX02.tawe.swan.ac.uk> Dear fellow Hackers, I regret that I shall not be attending the SUGRU event. Hope to attend the next regular meeting - some ideas about a battery pack having (literally) burnt my fingers many times over the years! regards Timothy Davies ________________________________ From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Richard Morgan [richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk] Sent: 12 September 2014 09:08 To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple of breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. Who else is going? -- Kind regards, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrug123 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 12 12:58:43 2014 From: shrug123 at hotmail.com (ioan hill) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:58:43 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hello everyone, My name is Ioan Hill, I came to the opening evening for the first time on Monday. I subscribed to the mailing list and have been following some of the things going on. I might be of use with this project. I have researched a lot into 18650 cells, and have recently been dismantling 'dead' laptop batteries bought cheaply off ebay. I now have around two hundred 18650 cells, and from the ones I have tested so far, I'm guessing half of them will be in a good condition. I would be happy to supply some cells for this project. Each cell weighs about 45 grams, so that's something to work with when considering the weight of this pack. I also have lots of the circuit boards from inside the laptop batteries. These have things like thermistors, charging circuit and chips etc, which you can have. If you want to buy cells, I would not recommend the '4000mAh' ultrafire cells. There's no chance they're 4 Ah, much more like half that, 2Ah or less. They are cheap, but low quality and there are many fakes on the market. If you are looking for performance, the best cells are "Panasonic NCR 18650B", They have a capacity of around 3,300mAh (3.2 to 3.4Ah). There is no higher capacity cell commercially available. They are actually the closest you can buy to the cells used in the Tesla Model S. They are more expensive though, around ?5 per cell. So if you want performance, go for NCR18650B, AT ?5 per cell and 3.3Ah If you want value, I can supply second hand (but still perfectly good!) 2Ah cells for ?1-2 each (cheaper than online+tested). Also I'd be glad to help in other ways with the design of the pack. For example I suggest making the cells inside easily replaceable so when an individual cell inevitably fails, the whole pack is not lost! Good luck with your project Richard. Perhaps I will see you at the sugru event tonight! Kind regards, Ioan Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:59:13 +0100 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop Big ask to charge laptop my phone If I remember 450 mAtablets about 1 to 1.5 Amp Laptop could be 3 - 4 Amps as for a battery, then a some 18650 type batteries ?? 40000 mA/H (4 A/H) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> http://www.banggood.com/4PCS-UltraFire-18650-4000mAh-3_7V-High-Quanlity-Rechargeable-Battery-p-87803.html although some serious power path management will be required, and a good level of safety - electrical, mechanical will be needed, because in the wrong hands, it's an incendiary device !! Ceri On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Richard Morgan wrote: Hi All,I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a priority. This is the kind of thing http://www.mophie.com/shop/mophie-juice-pack-powerstation-duo-smart-phones-tablets but it won't power a laptop. Need it to:- Fit in the backpack (i.e. not too big and heavy)- Fast charging for the stuff I charge off of it via USB- Indicator to show how much power is left- Able to charge a laptop (ideally able to provide power to the laptop) Has anyone come across a project page that talks of doing something similar? -- Kind regards, Richard _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Fri Sep 12 12:46:06 2014 From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:46:06 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: <5412BD41.4030702@aurinia.co.uk> References: <5412BD41.4030702@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <20140912124606.21d5be8a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk> Hi All, > As I understand it we are supposed > also to be looking for things that can be used for the writing up of > instructibles. Having looked at it. One of my little projects might > be useful even possibly both. As a group hosting this Build Night we are expected to showcase a min. of 3 projects/hacks using the supplies (in this case Sugru). There is an Android Instructables App available to make posting your Instructables as you work, easier. http://www.instructables.com/community/Build-Night-Resources/ From shrug123 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 12 13:03:14 2014 From: shrug123 at hotmail.com (ioan hill) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:03:14 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all I was at the open evening on monday, so I'm quite new here. I'm not a member (yet), but would like to come to the SUGRU night. Will be happy to donate. Ioan Hill Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:08:41 +0100 From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? I'm looking forward to the SUGRU night tonight - might have a couple of breakages that could benefit from the SUGRU treatment. Who else is going? -- Kind regards, Richard _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 12 13:05:30 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop Message-ID: I wouldn't mind adding a little content to the project/batteries section. On the way home a the other night I stoppoed into Aldi for some bits and notice a 14.4v Acer laptop battery next the the recycling point and thought I wiuld do the responsible thing and teuse rather than have it go through a process of recycling. Checked each cell and they were all at 4.18v, used a iMax B6 charger and disscharged then to 70% for storage and from the mAh disscharged they appear to be 2700(ish)mAh even though the labels say 2500mAh. So very happy with that find, I'll put a pair in my DIY transmitter and properly record the process of salvaging used laptop cells fow low power application. Won't make it again tonight, family life snares me once again. No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 10:28 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > Would anyone be willing to throw up a reference page on the hackspace > wiki for batteries? The Projects/ subsection of the site is open for anyone to add pages to if they want to add content. I need to reorganise the various tutorials and other reference stuff sometime as well, so we can add more basic electronics reference materials etc, any suggestions for a suitable title for such a section? _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at aurinia.co.uk Fri Sep 12 13:16:36 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:16:36 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5412E424.2010305@aurinia.co.uk> On 12/09/14 13:05, djdavies83 wrote: > I wouldn't mind adding a little content to the project/batteries section. > On the way home a the other night I stoppoed into Aldi for some bits > and notice a 14.4v Acer laptop battery next the the recycling point > and thought I wiuld do the responsible thing and teuse rather than > have it go through a process of recycling. > > Checked each cell and they were all at 4.18v, used a iMax B6 charger > and disscharged then to 70% for storage and from the mAh disscharged > they appear to be 2700(ish)mAh even though the labels say 2500mAh. > > So very happy with that find, I'll put a pair in my DIY transmitter > and properly record the process of salvaging used laptop cells fow low > power application. > > Won't make it again tonight, family life snares me once again. > I am finding this discussion absolutely fascinating. I'd really like to know more about how these batteries can be used safely. There are issues with Lithium Ion batteries as some of us know. This is the on-line diary of one of our members http://zeniv.linux.org.uk/~telsa/boom/ Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 13:23:04 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:23:04 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: <400DB202-35CB-4DAF-85FD-2E7CB3C9E87A@gmail.com> References: <1410509538.22048.6.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <400DB202-35CB-4DAF-85FD-2E7CB3C9E87A@gmail.com> Message-ID: It dependents on what type of battery you use, If you use Ni-Cad, Ni M Hiidirit then its relay desired voltage (plus a little for regulation) divide by 1.2 Volts/Cell. charging is easy, constant current/voltage, Negative delta V - for Ni Cad Zero delta V for NiMH both at up to 0.1 C for normal cool charging .. but 1.0 C in HOT charge Ceri On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > Would anyone be willing to throw up a reference page on the hackspace wiki > for batteries? > > I for one would love to know what battery and charger I should be using > for the syringe pump I?m building (somewhere between 5V and 10V, let?s say > 1A @ 5V). > > On 12 Sep 2014, at 09:53, Emyr Morris wrote: > > Long post warning - Batteries are a bit of a passion of mine... > > these little battery packs you linked to are wonderful - I have a > 'waterproof' one from Maplin for my iPhone etc - I used parenthesis because > it isn't waterproof by any stretch of the imagination! > > http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-waterproof-power-bank-7800mah-n03qn > > I bought mine when it was on offer - I paid 19 quid for it - well worth > keeping an eye on their special offers - a couple times a year they have > something really good in their 'powerbank' section. > > Apple iPhone/iPad chargers deliver 2.1A for a fast charge - the good car > chargers from the likes of Belkin will also offer 2.1A > > The 'easiest' way to charge a laptop is from 240VAC using the supplied > mains charger - and the safest batteries to use in a 'project' are SLA > (Sealed Lead Acid) - Lithium battery packs used incorrectly _can_ explode. > > This is a dire warning - misuse of LiIon or LiPo can and will result in > fire and possibly an explosion! > > In my line of work we tend to put SLA batteries into small Peli Cases - we > often build the charging circuitry into the same Peli > > Mike Harries (top bloke) has this page of examples - > http://www.mikesfilmsound.com/new_batterys%20&%20ChargersQ.htm > > We use 4pin XLRs for 12V in Film & TV - Pin 1 (negative) and can you guess > yet? Yes, pin 4 for positive (because they look like a '-' and '+') source > always on Female connectors - and equipment always on Male. > > A tidy sized SLA could power a 200W - 300W inverter for a while, enough to > power your laptop. > > These are also very handy (search for LM2596 on eBay or Ali Express), they > take any DC volts from 4V to 40V and you can set it to output any DC > voltage from 1.25V to 37V. > They are a bit noisy as DC-DC regulators are prone to be, but you could > filter that if it became a problem (if you were to use one to power a small > audio amp for example or a ham radio TX) > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM2596-LED-Voltage-Regulator-DC-DC-Buck-Adjustable-Step-Down-Converter-Module-/161206839226 > > This one is interesting, it has a current limiting option on it, useful > for charging a small battery > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Power-LM2577S-LM2596S-DC-DC-Step-Up-Down-Boost-Buck-Voltage-Converter-Module-/371050459165 > > Their perfect use is for making 5V to provide volts for USB sockets! > > Talking about USB sockets, I like these... ready built... and cheep and a > total of 3A for both sockets > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-Converter-Module-12V-To-5V-3A-15W-Dual-USB-Output-Power-Adapter-OZ-/321460838700 > > A Peli case with a nice big battery inside peppered with these would > provide an excellent power source for a long camping weekend for the whole > family... you could even fill the lid of the Peli with some strips of LEDs > to provide in-tent lighting! > > This should be chunky enough to power a laptop > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300W-Watt-Car-Battery-Power-Inverter-Auto-DC-12V-To-AC-230V-USB-Adapter-Voltage-/151262613703 > > Remember that at 300W - with a 12V source, you will draw 25A from your > batter!!!! (can you see why LiPo is now a very bad idea?) So for two hours > use you will need at least a 50Ah battery that is capable of delivering 25A > constantly... (a tall ask) > > We are almost in the realm of a caravan Leisure Battery already - 100Ah > and deep cycle - and certainly not something that you will want in your > rucksack for your train commute to London > > If you power your laptop while it is fully charged then the inverter > wouldn't have to work so hard... simply powering your laptop. On the other > hand if you run your laptop until it is flat, then plug in to your inverter > - your inverter would have to power the laptop AND charge it at the same > time... At 240V, each amp drawn is 240W - starting to get critical here... > > Some laptops manage this better - my old dell would draw 3.5A (Almost a > kilowatt) from mains regardless if the battery was full or not - but if I > took the battery out and just powered it from the mains, the current draw > would be down to as little as 0.5A (120W) from the mains... My Apple > Macbook Pro seems to be very power efficient, only drawing what is > absolutely necessary - I will plug it into an ammeter one day and do some > better checks. > > Going back to the SLA batteries - most of these are designed to stay at > full charge - for example in your home burglar alarm where they are trickle > charged all the time - these can not withstand being discharged until flat > and recharged to full time after time... for this application you would > need a deep cycle battery (leisure battery) - these are more expensive! > > It is worth watching out for the chaps who come to service the UPS power > supplied in your office - they should change the batteries in UPS at least > every two years - as long there hasn't been a prolonged power outage in > that time those batteries should have some life in them. > > They can be 12V 30Ah or 12V 100Ah batteries... and they will be glad to > give them to you FOC as they are a pain to get rid of in big quantities. > Nine times out of ten they are worth having, but don't expect them to last > years... 12 months will be good. And you will be able to dispose of a > couple at a time at your local dump > > I did warn you it would be a long one! LOL > > see you later > > Emyr > > > > > On 12 September 2014 09:12, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > >> On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 07:50 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and >> > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a >> > priority. >> >> Laptops have some pretty crazy and varied voltage inputs, so purely off >> the shelf parts is unlikely. >> >> You'd need a fairly large LiPo battery, but these are cheap and easy to >> get from the likes of HobbyKing >> >> Charging, your going to need a fairly sophisticated multi-cell lithium >> charging circuit, preferably one with a thermistor and auto-shutoff if >> it starts to over-heat. as charging is the most dangerous point. >> >> for discharge, either you have enough cells to get close to the right >> voltage, or you use a custom switch mode psu circuit, or a buck >> convertor, linear regulators suck for efficiency. >> >> but i'm no expert, and this is a project i would be wary of working on. >> >> if you were to bodge something simple, use a stand alone dedicated >> charger for the battery, and then just build, possibly from off the >> shelf parts, the dc output stage, it would be a lot simpler. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk Fri Sep 12 13:38:39 2014 From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:38:39 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks ALL - these comments are great. Ceri scared the life out of me (*smile*) and Emyr and Ioan's comments lead me to believe that the project is worth a punt! Will look forward to putting this thing together and should have lots of opportunity to put it to use too - see you all tonight - might need to check if encasing batteries in the magical SUGRU can make it flame-proof! *grin* .... and Ioan I will definitely be there tonight so looking forward to chatting through this project. On 12 September 2014 12:58, ioan hill wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My name is Ioan Hill, I came to the opening evening for the first time on > Monday. I subscribed to the mailing list and have been following some of > the things going on. > > I might be of use with this project. I have researched a lot into 18650 > cells, and have recently been dismantling 'dead' laptop batteries bought > cheaply off ebay. I now have around two hundred 18650 cells, and from the > ones I have tested so far, I'm guessing half of them will be in a good > condition. I would be happy to supply some cells for this project. Each > cell weighs about 45 grams, so that's something to work with when > considering the weight of this pack. I also have lots of the circuit boards > from inside the laptop batteries. These have things like thermistors, > charging circuit and chips etc, which you can have. > > If you want to buy cells, I would not recommend the '4000mAh' ultrafire > cells. There's no chance they're 4 Ah, much more like half that, 2Ah or > less. They are cheap, but low quality and there are many fakes on the > market. If you are looking for performance, the best cells are "Panasonic > NCR 18650B", They have a capacity of around 3,300mAh (3.2 to 3.4Ah). There > is no higher capacity cell commercially available. They are actually the > closest you can buy to the cells used in the Tesla Model S. They are more > expensive though, around ?5 per cell. > > So if you want performance, go for NCR18650B, AT ?5 per cell and 3.3Ah > > If you want value, I can supply second hand (but still perfectly good!) > 2Ah cells for ?1-2 each (cheaper than online+tested). > > Also I'd be glad to help in other ways with the design of the pack. For > example I suggest making the cells inside easily replaceable so when an > individual cell inevitably fails, the whole pack is not lost! > > Good luck with your project Richard. Perhaps I will see you at the sugru > event tonight! > > Kind regards, > > Ioan > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:59:13 +0100 > From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop > > > Big ask to charge laptop > my phone If I remember 450 mA > tablets about 1 to 1.5 Amp > > Laptop could be 3 - 4 Amps > > as for a battery, then a some 18650 type batteries ?? 40000 mA/H (4 A/H) > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >>> > http://www.banggood.com/4PCS-UltraFire-18650-4000mAh-3_7V-High-Quanlity-Rechargeable-Battery-p-87803.html > > although some *serious *power path management will be required, > > and a good level of safety - electrical, mechanical will be needed, > > because in the wrong hands, it's an incendiary device !! > > Ceri > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Richard Morgan < > richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi All, > I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and > charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a priority. > > This is the kind of thing > http://www.mophie.com/shop/mophie-juice-pack-powerstation-duo-smart-phones-tablets but > it won't power a laptop. > > Need it to: > - Fit in the backpack (i.e. not too big and heavy) > - Fast charging for the stuff I charge off of it via USB > - Indicator to show how much power is left > - Able to charge a laptop (ideally able to provide power to the laptop) > > Has anyone come across a project page that talks of doing something > similar? > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Kind regards, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Fri Sep 12 14:11:18 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:11:18 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: when I posted this on my Facebook... I gave it this title "Peli case prevents air disaster" http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/undeclared-batteries-sparked-plane-fire-at-melbourne-airport3a/5728574 The only time I have had a LiPo explode on me was on one of those small RC helicopters Got to be careful handling NiCd (not that common nowadays), Cadmium is nasty, and it can cause Brittle Bone Disease amongst others - Cadmium was used against our boys in Iraq War #1 :-( On 12 September 2014 13:38, Richard Morgan wrote: > Thanks ALL - these comments are great. > > Ceri scared the life out of me (*smile*) and Emyr and Ioan's comments lead > me to believe that the project is worth a punt! > > Will look forward to putting this thing together and should have lots of > opportunity to put it to use too - see you all tonight - might need to > check if encasing batteries in the magical SUGRU can make it flame-proof! > *grin* > > > .... and Ioan I will definitely be there tonight so looking forward to > chatting through this project. > > > > On 12 September 2014 12:58, ioan hill wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> My name is Ioan Hill, I came to the opening evening for the first time on >> Monday. I subscribed to the mailing list and have been following some of >> the things going on. >> >> I might be of use with this project. I have researched a lot into 18650 >> cells, and have recently been dismantling 'dead' laptop batteries bought >> cheaply off ebay. I now have around two hundred 18650 cells, and from the >> ones I have tested so far, I'm guessing half of them will be in a good >> condition. I would be happy to supply some cells for this project. Each >> cell weighs about 45 grams, so that's something to work with when >> considering the weight of this pack. I also have lots of the circuit boards >> from inside the laptop batteries. These have things like thermistors, >> charging circuit and chips etc, which you can have. >> >> If you want to buy cells, I would not recommend the '4000mAh' ultrafire >> cells. There's no chance they're 4 Ah, much more like half that, 2Ah or >> less. They are cheap, but low quality and there are many fakes on the >> market. If you are looking for performance, the best cells are "Panasonic >> NCR 18650B", They have a capacity of around 3,300mAh (3.2 to 3.4Ah). There >> is no higher capacity cell commercially available. They are actually the >> closest you can buy to the cells used in the Tesla Model S. They are more >> expensive though, around ?5 per cell. >> >> So if you want performance, go for NCR18650B, AT ?5 per cell and 3.3Ah >> >> If you want value, I can supply second hand (but still perfectly good!) >> 2Ah cells for ?1-2 each (cheaper than online+tested). >> >> Also I'd be glad to help in other ways with the design of the pack. For >> example I suggest making the cells inside easily replaceable so when an >> individual cell inevitably fails, the whole pack is not lost! >> >> Good luck with your project Richard. Perhaps I will see you at the sugru >> event tonight! >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Ioan >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:59:13 +0100 >> From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Project - Powerpack for a laptop >> >> >> Big ask to charge laptop >> my phone If I remember 450 mA >> tablets about 1 to 1.5 Amp >> >> Laptop could be 3 - 4 Amps >> >> as for a battery, then a some 18650 type batteries ?? 40000 mA/H (4 A/H) >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >>> >> http://www.banggood.com/4PCS-UltraFire-18650-4000mAh-3_7V-High-Quanlity-Rechargeable-Battery-p-87803.html >> >> although some *serious *power path management will be required, >> >> and a good level of safety - electrical, mechanical will be needed, >> >> because in the wrong hands, it's an incendiary device !! >> >> Ceri >> >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Richard Morgan < >> richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> I'm looking to 'make' a battery pack that I can use for travelling and >> charging up my kit (iPhone, iPad, Mi-Fi and laptop) - laptop is a priority. >> >> This is the kind of thing >> http://www.mophie.com/shop/mophie-juice-pack-powerstation-duo-smart-phones-tablets but >> it won't power a laptop. >> >> Need it to: >> - Fit in the backpack (i.e. not too big and heavy) >> - Fast charging for the stuff I charge off of it via USB >> - Indicator to show how much power is left >> - Able to charge a laptop (ideally able to provide power to the laptop) >> >> Has anyone come across a project page that talks of doing something >> similar? >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Fri Sep 12 14:14:03 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:14:03 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUGRU night - who's coming? In-Reply-To: <20140912124606.21d5be8a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk> References: <5412BD41.4030702@aurinia.co.uk> <20140912124606.21d5be8a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk> Message-ID: there are apps for iOS (and Windows) as well :-) On 12 September 2014 12:46, Sharon Mitchell wrote: > Hi All, > > > As I understand it we are supposed > > also to be looking for things that can be used for the writing up of > > instructibles. Having looked at it. One of my little projects might > > be useful even possibly both. > > > > As a group hosting this Build Night we are expected to showcase a min. > of 3 projects/hacks using the supplies (in this case Sugru). > > There is an Android Instructables App available to make posting your > Instructables as you work, easier. > > http://www.instructables.com/community/Build-Night-Resources/ > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Fri Sep 12 22:29:52 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:29:52 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sugru based instructables Message-ID: <1410557392.23337.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> For those that have made instructables for their Sugru masterpieces can you please link yourself on the page for the event so we can keep them all together and more easily reference them. thanks http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/20140912 From neil at aurinia.co.uk Sat Sep 13 21:47:05 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:47:05 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The dangers of playing with batteries Message-ID: <5414AD49.10502@aurinia.co.uk> It seems from speaking to people that my posting the other day about Li ion Batteries wasn't fully appreciated. The point I was making is care is needed with them because they can EXPLODE ! The example I used was from our member Telsa Gwynne's on-iine diary where she wrote about her husband, Linux Guru, Alan Cox and his laptop. It would appear that even with properly used and genuine batteries there can be a risk because his laptop blew up one day! Here is the link again http://zeniv.linux.org.uk/~telsa/boom/ Here is a youtube video where a laptop is rigged to fail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizFsY0yjss Neil From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk Sun Sep 14 08:34:39 2014 From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 08:34:39 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] REPRAP question - Yellow Fuses on RAMPS board overheating Message-ID: Hi All, I have a problem with my 3D printer and I hope you can help. *Blowing on the Bed* When I start a print the bed begins heating and gets as far as about 50 degrees the stops and cools down again! Speaking with Ceri, he suggested it might be the big yellow fuses on the RAMPS board tripping out. I tested this by 'blowing' on the fuses while it's heating up and 'bingo' Ceri was right. *Fitted a Fan* So, I fitted a 40mm fan (wired to the D9 point) over the RAMPS board to cool it down (as it doesn't look that cool to be blowing on your board when people see you printing!). I added the "M106 S255 ; Turn on RAMPS Board cooling fan" code in the 'start G-code' section of Slic3r to start the fan when it goes to print. *Remaining Problem* Problem still is that the fan itself doesn't actually start (i.e. this command doesn't execute) until the bed has heated to target temp first - which is where it trips out the fuse. This means that I STILL need to 'blow' on the board until the bed has reached target temp and then the fan kicks in and cools the board itself fine! So short of wiring the fan to the yellow and black power on the board (rather than to D9) so that it's always on - is there another way to fix this problem please? 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This might indicate the nature of the problem On Sunday, 14 September 2014, Richard Morgan wrote: > Hi All, > I have a problem with my 3D printer and I hope you can help. > > *Blowing on the Bed* > When I start a print the bed begins heating and gets as far as about 50 > degrees the stops and cools down again! > > Speaking with Ceri, he suggested it might be the big yellow fuses on the > RAMPS board tripping out. I tested this by 'blowing' on the fuses while > it's heating up and 'bingo' Ceri was right. > > *Fitted a Fan* > So, I fitted a 40mm fan (wired to the D9 point) over the RAMPS board to > cool it down (as it doesn't look that cool to be blowing on your board when > people see you printing!). I added the "M106 S255 ; Turn on RAMPS Board > cooling fan" code in the 'start G-code' section of Slic3r to start the fan > when it goes to print. > > *Remaining Problem* > Problem still is that the fan itself doesn't actually start (i.e. this > command doesn't execute) until the bed has heated to target temp first - > which is where it trips out the fuse. This means that I STILL need to > 'blow' on the board until the bed has reached target temp and then the fan > kicks in and cools the board itself fine! > > So short of wiring the fan to the yellow and black power on the board > (rather than to D9) so that it's always on - is there another way to fix > this problem please? > > All help very gratefully received :-) > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Sun Sep 14 10:03:40 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:03:40 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Saw this in Maplin and thought of Richard Message-ID: I bet the attachment gets ftered :-D -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <5415E396.8070605@aurinia.co.uk> Hello everyone, I appear to have lost a jacket and I am wondering if I left it in the space yesterday? It isn't impossible that I left it there Friday. It is one of those things. I wear it often but only when it is cold enough to warrant it. So I am unaware of when I last wore it. I have checked the webcam and I did so before it became quite so dark as it is now. Neil From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk Sun Sep 14 21:02:44 2014 From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:02:44 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Membership Dues In-Reply-To: <1410699587.7792.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1410699587.7792.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Justin, Many thanks - that is brilliant. Any chance you can put a link on that page too please to pay for further fees? I have just done mine :-) I know it is on another page - would just be. Helpful for us to know where we're paid upto and to easily go and pay forwards. 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On 14 September 2014 11:51, Richard Morgan wrote: > Thanks Emyr - the image looks great - not sure I want to 'jumpstart' the > laptop though *smile* > > Will take a look > > 2014-09-14 10:03 GMT+01:00 Emyr Morris : > >> I bet the attachment gets ftered :-D >> >> -- >> Mob: 07836 267426 >> >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. >> >> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt >> yn unig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Mon Sep 15 09:44:47 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:44:47 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] left jacket? In-Reply-To: <5415E396.8070605@aurinia.co.uk> References: <5415E396.8070605@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: I 'think' there was a jacket left on one of the chairs opposite the boxes/fridge... Emyr On 14 September 2014 19:51, Neil Jones wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I appear to have lost a jacket and I am wondering if I left it in the > space yesterday? > It isn't impossible that I left it there Friday. > > It is one of those things. I wear it often but only when it is cold enough > to warrant it. > So I am unaware of when I last wore it. > > I have checked the webcam and I did so before it became quite so dark as > it is now. > > Neil > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Mon Sep 15 09:47:12 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:47:12 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Membership Dues In-Reply-To: References: <1410699587.7792.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: maybe add the BACS details as an 'aide memoir'? :-) Be great if everybody set up a standing order, that would make things easier for our Treasurer... Would it also assist if we all set the date of our transfer to something like the 4th or the 20th of the month? That way the treasurer wouldn't need to check the bank account more than twice a month :-) :-) On 14 September 2014 21:02, Richard Morgan wrote: > Justin, > Many thanks - that is brilliant. > > Any chance you can put a link on that page too please to pay for further > fees? I have just done mine :-) > > I know it is on another page - would just be. Helpful for us to know where > we're paid upto and to easily go and pay forwards. > > Thanks again, > > Richard > > > On Sunday, September 14, 2014, Justin Mitchell < > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > >> To help people keep track of their membership status you can now see the >> date that you have paid until via your Account details page. >> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Account >> >> or just press the 'Account' heading on the menu when you are logged in. >> >> Due to the wide variety of payment methods that we accept the accounts >> have to be manually reconciled, therefore the date that they were last >> checked is also shown on that page. >> >> Reminder that the membership fees are due by the 23rd of the month that >> they are for. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 15 09:58:11 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:58:11 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Membership Dues In-Reply-To: References: <1410699587.7792.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1410771491.15490.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 09:47 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > maybe add the BACS details as an 'aide memoir'? :-) Okay, i have put them on that page as well, but they are only visible if you are logged in as a member. > Be great if everybody set up a standing order, that would make things > easier for our Treasurer... Yes, standing orders are preferred, followed by paypal recurring payments, means that i wont have to write increasingly sarcastic reminder emails when people forget :) > > Would it also assist if we all set the date of our transfer to > something like the 4th or the 20th of the month? That way the > treasurer wouldn't need to check the bank account more than twice a > month :-) :-) Official deadline is the 23rd of the month, payments should be in before then if you dont want to get nagged. From em at preseli.com Mon Sep 15 10:19:46 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:19:46 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Membership Dues In-Reply-To: <1410771491.15490.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1410699587.7792.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410771491.15490.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: yes, I was suggesting a note with the bank details on the 'account' page to _encourage_ members to pay on one of two dates (keeping the same cut-off) so Sharon has less work to do to monitor the bank account. I know that chasing member dues is a pain - I look after the membership of Pontardawe Film Club :-( Mind you, years ago I was national treasurer of CYD, the Welsh Learners' Society - that was a bigger pain, we had members all over Wales and some abroad in England (plus one or two in Europe) On 15 September 2014 09:58, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 09:47 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > maybe add the BACS details as an 'aide memoir'? :-) > > Okay, i have put them on that page as well, but they are only visible if > you are logged in as a member. > > > Be great if everybody set up a standing order, that would make things > > easier for our Treasurer... > > Yes, standing orders are preferred, followed by paypal recurring > payments, means that i wont have to write increasingly sarcastic > reminder emails when people forget :) > > > > > Would it also assist if we all set the date of our transfer to > > something like the 4th or the 20th of the month? That way the > > treasurer wouldn't need to check the bank account more than twice a > > month :-) :-) > > Official deadline is the 23rd of the month, payments should be in before > then if you dont want to get nagged. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Tue Sep 16 08:24:29 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:24:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? Message-ID: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> Hi guys, does anyone have on old pc with a parallel printer port they are willing to donate/loan to the 'space for running the mini mill? Best Regards exit0 From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 16 08:50:56 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:50:56 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:24 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > Hi guys, does anyone have on old pc with a parallel printer port they > are willing to donate/loan to the 'space for running the mini mill? Any other requirements? ie what do you drive it from, linuxcnc ? or something more arcane ? and have you considered an upgrade to a modern controller board like a RAMPS ? ;) (ie something that accepts gcode instead of needing the host machine to do the timing) From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Tue Sep 16 09:15:48 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:15:48 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Justin, Modern drive electronics are fine, but I would not be very happy running it without a host PC for the time being until we could talk over the safety aspects of doing so. Unlike the 3d printer that will make some noise to complain about someone getting their hand in the wrong place, the mill can do some serious damage - so the ability to preview, view the cuts as they are happening and most importantly emergency stopping need to be dealt with first if we were to move away from linuxcnc. I can bring in my PC so that we can see how its setup, but I can only leave it there for a week as I use it for my other machines. PS, if anyone mentions running it with Mach3, the offending party will be liable to abuse of the type normally reserved for new recruits in stanley kubricks Full Metal Jacket. :D exit0 On 16 September 2014 08:50, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:24 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > Hi guys, does anyone have on old pc with a parallel printer port they > > are willing to donate/loan to the 'space for running the mini mill? > > Any other requirements? > ie what do you drive it from, linuxcnc ? or something more arcane ? > > and have you considered an upgrade to a modern controller board like a > RAMPS ? ;) > > (ie something that accepts gcode instead of needing the host machine to > do the timing) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date:16/09/2014 09:16 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port?
Hi Justin, Modern drive electronics are fine, but I would not be very happy running it without a host PC for the time being until we could talk over the safety aspects of doing so. Unlike the 3d printer that will make some noise to complain about someone getting their hand in the wrong place, the mill can do some serious damage - so the ability to preview, view the cuts as they are happening and most importantly emergency stopping need to be dealt with first if we were to move away from linuxcnc. I can bring in my PC so that we can see how its setup, but I can only leave it there for a week as I use it for my other machines. PS, if anyone mentions running it with Mach3, the offending party will be liable to abuse of the type normally reserved for new recruits in stanley kubricks Full Metal Jacket. :D exit0 On 16 September 2014 08:50, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:24 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > Hi guys, does anyone have on old pc with a parallel printer port they > > are willing to donate/loan to the 'space for running the mini mill? > > Any other requirements? > ie what do you drive it from, linuxcnc ? or something more arcane ? > > and have you considered an upgrade to a modern controller board like a > RAMPS ? ;) > > (ie something that accepts gcode instead of needing the host machine to > do the timing) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1410856190.22012.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:15 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > Modern drive electronics are fine, but I would not be very happy > running it without a host PC for the time being until we could talk > over the safety aspects of doing so. > Unlike the 3d printer that will make some noise to complain about > someone getting their hand in the wrong place, the mill can do some > serious damage - so the ability to preview, view the cuts as they are > happening and most importantly emergency stopping need to be dealt > with first if we were to move away from linuxcnc. It would still need a host pc, but not one thats timing critical, and with just a usb port. like we run the 3d printer, it feeds one command at a time to the driver board. I was just looking at the electronics used to run the shapeoko open source cnc mill. A couple of ways to do it: GAUPS (or equivalent) shield + Arduino Uno + GRBL firmware http://store.amberspyglass.co.uk/gaups-1-0-arduino-compatible-stepper-shield-kit-50v.html https://github.com/grbl/grbl and then a front end like: http://zapmaker.org/projects/grbl-controller-3-0/ or a standard reprap type controller board (eg RAMPS), with the Marlin firmware, and a frontend that translates the gcode slightly. http://reprap.org/wiki/CNCGcodeController Both types would use the DRV8825 stepper drivers, which can drive upto 45v, and 2.2A per phase (if given enough cooling, 1.5A without) What do you currently drive the steppers with ? p.s. a big red 'stop' button may also be a worthy addition From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 09:39:42 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:39:42 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I have a really old PC I was given, up my loft, Will look tonight if it has Printer port .. But I will try to order a USB to Printer port cable, Ceri On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:24 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > Hi guys, does anyone have on old pc with a parallel printer port they > > are willing to donate/loan to the 'space for running the mini mill? > > Any other requirements? > ie what do you drive it from, linuxcnc ? or something more arcane ? > > and have you considered an upgrade to a modern controller board like a > RAMPS ? ;) > > (ie something that accepts gcode instead of needing the host machine to > do the timing) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date:16/09/2014 09:16 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace
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Hi Justin, Modern drive electronics are fine, but I would not be very happy running it without a host PC for the time being until we could talk over the safety aspects of doing so. Unlike the 3d printer that will make some noise to complain about someone getting their hand in the wrong place, the mill can do some serious damage - so the ability to preview, view the cuts as they are happening and most importantly emergency stopping need to be dealt with first if we were to move away from linuxcnc. I can bring in my PC so that we can see how its setup, but I can only leave it there for a week as I use it for my other machines. PS, if anyone mentions running it with Mach3, the offending party will be liable to abuse of the type normally reserved for new recruits in stanley kubricks Full Metal Jacket. :D exit0 On 16 September 2014 08:50, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:24 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > Hi guys, does anyone have on old pc with a parallel printer port they > > are willing to donate/loan to the 'space for running the mini mill? > > Any other requirements? > ie what do you drive it from, linuxcnc ? or something more arcane ? > > and have you considered an upgrade to a modern controller board like a > RAMPS ? ;) > > (ie something that accepts gcode instead of needing the host machine to > do the timing) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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An interesting alternative suggestion is that if the existing controller board is of the really dumb type, with just step and direction inputs, then it may be possible to use a standard arduino and firmware and wire up the parallel connector as if it was a bunch of stepsticks. I just dont know enough about the mills hardware to speculate further From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Tue Sep 16 10:07:46 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:07:46 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Well perhaps us hardware types could meet up one night during the week to get it up and running or at least figure out the best way to run it. It currently has stepper spindle drivers built in, just needs pulse/dir signals to control it - spindle speed is currently manual, although i have been building a pwm controller for it. PS Ceri, people who use USB -> Parallel adapters fall into the aforementioned category of mach3 users :P On 16 September 2014 10:03, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:39 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > > > But I will try to order a USB to Printer port cable, > > They are of no use, they are designed only to talk to well behaved > devices using the defined protocols, you cant bit bang (waggle > individual lines) with any kind of speed or accuracy. > > An interesting alternative suggestion is that if the existing controller > board is of the really dumb type, with just step and direction inputs, > then it may be possible to use a standard arduino and firmware and wire > up the parallel connector as if it was a bunch of stepsticks. > > I just dont know enough about the mills hardware to speculate further > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Tue Sep 16 10:09:33 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: That should read stepper & spindle drivers On 16 September 2014 10:07, Graham Owens wrote: > Well perhaps us hardware types could meet up one night during the week to > get it up and running or at least figure out the best way to run it. It > currently has stepper spindle drivers built in, just needs pulse/dir > signals to control it - spindle speed is currently manual, although i have > been building a pwm controller for it. > > PS Ceri, people who use USB -> Parallel adapters fall into the > aforementioned category of mach3 users :P > > On 16 September 2014 10:03, Justin Mitchell < > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:39 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: >> >> > But I will try to order a USB to Printer port cable, >> >> They are of no use, they are designed only to talk to well behaved >> devices using the defined protocols, you cant bit bang (waggle >> individual lines) with any kind of speed or accuracy. >> >> An interesting alternative suggestion is that if the existing controller >> board is of the really dumb type, with just step and direction inputs, >> then it may be possible to use a standard arduino and firmware and wire >> up the parallel connector as if it was a bunch of stepsticks. >> >> I just dont know enough about the mills hardware to speculate further >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:09 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > That should read stepper & spindle drivers > > On 16 September 2014 10:07, Graham Owens > wrote: > Well perhaps us hardware types could meet up one night during > the week to get it up and running or at least figure out the > best way to run it. It currently has stepper spindle drivers > built in, just needs pulse/dir signals to control it - spindle > speed is currently manual, although i have been building a pwm > controller for it. > > > PS Ceri, people who use USB -> Parallel adapters fall into the > aforementioned category of mach3 users :P > > On 16 September 2014 10:03, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:39 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy > wrote: > > > But I will try to order a USB to Printer port cable, > > They are of no use, they are designed only to talk to > well behaved > devices using the defined protocols, you cant bit bang > (waggle > individual lines) with any kind of speed or accuracy. > > An interesting alternative suggestion is that if the > existing controller > board is of the really dumb type, with just step and > direction inputs, > then it may be possible to use a standard arduino and > firmware and wire > up the parallel connector as if it was a bunch of > stepsticks. > > I just dont know enough about the mills hardware to > speculate further > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 09:34:09 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:34:09 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] bearings In-Reply-To: <5412B2C4.9030603@sucs.org> References: <5412AD45.6060709@sucs.org> <5412B2C4.9030603@sucs.org> Message-ID: Got 8mm Au rod in car, If I get to go out will drop off dinner time .. unless someone is passing SA1 :) Ceri On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Tim Clark wrote: > Yes, we need 3 as far as i can see. > > Tim > > On 12/09/2014 09:42, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > > I have FIVE in my pocket (in a container) > > Is that enough ? > > Cer > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Tim Clark wrote: > >> That would be very helpful, they are on the shopping list and I was >> investigating places to source them yesterday. >> >> Tim >> >> On 12/09/2014 09:01, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: >> >> I have got some 608ZZ 22 OD, 6 ID 7 Thick >> if required for printer upgrade. >> >> Ceri >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 11:39:25 2014 From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:39:25 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: It seems a solution appeared on Hackaday the same day that you were discussing the problem: http://hackaday.com/2014/09/16/usb-to-db25-adapter-uses-grbl-for-parallel-port-cnc-communication/ Guess what: It?s Arduino-based and runs GRBL. On 16 Sep 2014, at 10:16, Justin Mitchell wrote: > If you have a have any kind of wiring / pinout for the current parallel > connector that would be a great help. > > but it sounds like a perfectly reasonable goal to just wire that > connector to an arduino board running the firmware i previously > mentioned, which will make running it much easier. > > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:09 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: >> That should read stepper & spindle drivers >> >> On 16 September 2014 10:07, Graham Owens >> wrote: >> Well perhaps us hardware types could meet up one night during >> the week to get it up and running or at least figure out the >> best way to run it. It currently has stepper spindle drivers >> built in, just needs pulse/dir signals to control it - spindle >> speed is currently manual, although i have been building a pwm >> controller for it. >> >> >> PS Ceri, people who use USB -> Parallel adapters fall into the >> aforementioned category of mach3 users :P >> >> On 16 September 2014 10:03, Justin Mitchell >> wrote: >> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:39 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy >> wrote: >> >>> But I will try to order a USB to Printer port cable, >> >> They are of no use, they are designed only to talk to >> well behaved >> devices using the defined protocols, you cant bit bang >> (waggle >> individual lines) with any kind of speed or accuracy. >> >> An interesting alternative suggestion is that if the >> existing controller >> board is of the really dumb type, with just step and >> direction inputs, >> then it may be possible to use a standard arduino and >> firmware and wire >> up the parallel connector as if it was a bunch of >> stepsticks. >> >> I just dont know enough about the mills hardware to >> speculate further >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Wed Sep 17 11:44:47 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:44:47 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> So after we have jury rigged one using a standard arduino, we can then mill the pcb for a custom made one :) On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:39 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > It seems a solution appeared on Hackaday the same day that you were > discussing the problem: > http://hackaday.com/2014/09/16/usb-to-db25-adapter-uses-grbl-for-parallel-port-cnc-communication/ > > > Guess what: It?s Arduino-based and runs GRBL. > > On 16 Sep 2014, at 10:16, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > > > If you have a have any kind of wiring / pinout for the current > > parallel > > connector that would be a great help. > > > > but it sounds like a perfectly reasonable goal to just wire that > > connector to an arduino board running the firmware i previously > > mentioned, which will make running it much easier. > > > > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:09 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > > That should read stepper & spindle drivers > > > > > > On 16 September 2014 10:07, Graham Owens > > > wrote: > > > Well perhaps us hardware types could meet up one night > > > during > > > the week to get it up and running or at least figure out > > > the > > > best way to run it. It currently has stepper spindle > > > drivers > > > built in, just needs pulse/dir signals to control it - > > > spindle > > > speed is currently manual, although i have been building a > > > pwm > > > controller for it. > > > > > > > > > PS Ceri, people who use USB -> Parallel adapters fall into > > > the > > > aforementioned category of mach3 users :P > > > > > > On 16 September 2014 10:03, Justin Mitchell > > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:39 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy > > > wrote: > > > > > > > But I will try to order a USB to Printer port cable, > > > > > > They are of no use, they are designed only to talk > > > to > > > well behaved > > > devices using the defined protocols, you cant bit > > > bang > > > (waggle > > > individual lines) with any kind of speed or > > > accuracy. > > > > > > An interesting alternative suggestion is that if > > > the > > > existing controller > > > board is of the really dumb type, with just step > > > and > > > direction inputs, > > > then it may be possible to use a standard arduino > > > and > > > firmware and wire > > > up the parallel connector as if it was a bunch of > > > stepsticks. > > > > > > I just dont know enough about the mills hardware to > > > speculate further > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hackspace mailing list > > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hackspace mailing list > > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Wed Sep 17 12:38:12 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:38:12 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:44 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > So after we have jury rigged one using a standard arduino, we can then > mill the pcb for a custom made one :) > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:39 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > > It seems a solution appeared on Hackaday the same day that you were > > discussing the problem: > > http://hackaday.com/2014/09/16/usb-to-db25-adapter-uses-grbl-for-parallel-port-cnc-communication/ > > > > > > Guess what: It?s Arduino-based and runs GRBL. This also seems to apply to laser cutters, at least the cheap ones with parallel port connectors. They appear to be the same level of dumb step-stick style driver inputs that many CNC machines are. So a cheap laser cutter could be adapted to work (the supplied software is notoriously bad) without even changing the electronics. Further research has shown that these cheap cutters tend to have two control boards, one is the psu, and connects to the safety interlocks, the HV laser tube drive, stop switch, etc. this in turn gives 5v, laser trigger, and motor drive voltage (24V?) outputs. the second board is then the stepper controller / interface board, theres often just two steppers X/Y, end stops, and the TTL level laser on/off trigger, which can be driven with PWM for finer control. So replacing the stepper controller with something more modern is going to be pretty easy if you need to, but if its a parallel port one you can just as easily put an arduino with GRBL/Marlin on the outside and get the same level of control. From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Wed Sep 17 12:56:00 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:56:00 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Perhaps i am missing something still, but how exactly do you control these things without a pc? I understand the how of toggling pins etc, but i mean the practical aspect of actually setting up the machine and running it? Ho for example do you do a touch-off on an arduino controlled cnc? > On 17 Sep 2014, at 12:38, Justin Mitchell wrote: > >> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:44 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: >> So after we have jury rigged one using a standard arduino, we can then >> mill the pcb for a custom made one :) >> >>> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:39 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: >>> It seems a solution appeared on Hackaday the same day that you were >>> discussing the problem: >>> http://hackaday.com/2014/09/16/usb-to-db25-adapter-uses-grbl-for-parallel-port-cnc-communication/ >>> >>> >>> Guess what: It?s Arduino-based and runs GRBL. > > This also seems to apply to laser cutters, at least the cheap ones with > parallel port connectors. They appear to be the same level of dumb > step-stick style driver inputs that many CNC machines are. > > So a cheap laser cutter could be adapted to work (the supplied software > is notoriously bad) without even changing the electronics. > > Further research has shown that these cheap cutters tend to have two > control boards, one is the psu, and connects to the safety interlocks, > the HV laser tube drive, stop switch, etc. this in turn gives 5v, laser > trigger, and motor drive voltage (24V?) outputs. > > the second board is then the stepper controller / interface board, > theres often just two steppers X/Y, end stops, and the TTL level laser > on/off trigger, which can be driven with PWM for finer control. > > So replacing the stepper controller with something more modern is going > to be pretty easy if you need to, but if its a parallel port one you can > just as easily put an arduino with GRBL/Marlin on the outside and get > the same level of control. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Wed Sep 17 13:31:59 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:31:59 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> You do (mostly) still need a PC. Idea is :- Software on pc sends g-code down USB to arduino arduino does the timing critical stuff down the parallel port If the arduino is running Marlin firmware then you can use any standard reprap style gcode sender, such as Pronterface, or possibly even OctoPrint. If the arduino is running GRBL then there are specific gcode senders for that such as grbl-controller, Grblweb, etc http://zapmaker.org/projects/grbl-controller-3-0/ http://andrewhodel.github.io/grblweb/ either way you remove the need for a pc parallel interface, and also remove the timing critical stuff the pc was trying to do, which desktop class hardware is just not good at. Whilst firmware like Marlin can do stuff like printing from SDCard (and run its own little LCD based UI) the speed of print is lower, and its more difficult to stop it, so using sender software is preferred. On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 12:56 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > Perhaps i am missing something still, but how exactly do you control > these things without a pc? I understand the how of toggling pins etc, > but i mean the practical aspect of actually setting up the machine and > running it? > > Ho for example do you do a touch-off on an arduino controlled cnc? > > > On 17 Sep 2014, at 12:38, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:44 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > >> So after we have jury rigged one using a standard arduino, we can then > >> mill the pcb for a custom made one :) > >> > >>> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:39 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > >>> It seems a solution appeared on Hackaday the same day that you were > >>> discussing the problem: > >>> http://hackaday.com/2014/09/16/usb-to-db25-adapter-uses-grbl-for-parallel-port-cnc-communication/ > >>> > >>> > >>> Guess what: It?s Arduino-based and runs GRBL. > > > > This also seems to apply to laser cutters, at least the cheap ones with > > parallel port connectors. They appear to be the same level of dumb > > step-stick style driver inputs that many CNC machines are. > > > > So a cheap laser cutter could be adapted to work (the supplied software > > is notoriously bad) without even changing the electronics. > > > > Further research has shown that these cheap cutters tend to have two > > control boards, one is the psu, and connects to the safety interlocks, > > the HV laser tube drive, stop switch, etc. this in turn gives 5v, laser > > trigger, and motor drive voltage (24V?) outputs. > > > > the second board is then the stepper controller / interface board, > > theres often just two steppers X/Y, end stops, and the TTL level laser > > on/off trigger, which can be driven with PWM for finer control. > > > > So replacing the stepper controller with something more modern is going > > to be pretty easy if you need to, but if its a parallel port one you can > > just as easily put an arduino with GRBL/Marlin on the outside and get > > the same level of control. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Wed Sep 17 14:20:43 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:20:43 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I think I would have to see it to understand properly, as I cannot figure out how the arduino can calculate the kinematics in realtime, as this information is not contained in the gcode, and also how you would touch off the workpiece (touching off usually (for me anyway) involves moving the tip of the tool to the datum for the cut to within a cigarette paper's width (why machinests who do not smoke carry cigarette papers), moving. after this point i guess you could run from the gcode arduino device (assuming that kinematics are handled) Would it be possible for the interested parties to meet up at the space one night this week (pref not friday) and we can get it set up, i can show you how I use the machine just now, then then you guys can figure out how to run the same thing without a permanent PC in the loop. PS just had a better look at the grblweb tool, that could work assuming it was almost realtime for touching off, and there is some security to lockout anyone who is not actively using the machine On 17 September 2014 13:31, Justin Mitchell wrote: > You do (mostly) still need a PC. > > Idea is :- > Software on pc sends g-code down USB to arduino > arduino does the timing critical stuff down the parallel port > > If the arduino is running Marlin firmware then you can use any standard > reprap style gcode sender, such as Pronterface, or possibly even > OctoPrint. > > If the arduino is running GRBL then there are specific gcode senders for > that such as grbl-controller, Grblweb, etc > > http://zapmaker.org/projects/grbl-controller-3-0/ > http://andrewhodel.github.io/grblweb/ > > > either way you remove the need for a pc parallel interface, and also > remove the timing critical stuff the pc was trying to do, which desktop > class hardware is just not good at. > > Whilst firmware like Marlin can do stuff like printing from SDCard (and > run its own little LCD based UI) the speed of print is lower, and its > more difficult to stop it, so using sender software is preferred. > > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 12:56 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > Perhaps i am missing something still, but how exactly do you control > > these things without a pc? I understand the how of toggling pins etc, > > but i mean the practical aspect of actually setting up the machine and > > running it? > > > > Ho for example do you do a touch-off on an arduino controlled cnc? > > > > > On 17 Sep 2014, at 12:38, Justin Mitchell < > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:44 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > >> So after we have jury rigged one using a standard arduino, we can then > > >> mill the pcb for a custom made one :) > > >> > > >>> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:39 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote: > > >>> It seems a solution appeared on Hackaday the same day that you were > > >>> discussing the problem: > > >>> > http://hackaday.com/2014/09/16/usb-to-db25-adapter-uses-grbl-for-parallel-port-cnc-communication/ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Guess what: It?s Arduino-based and runs GRBL. > > > > > > This also seems to apply to laser cutters, at least the cheap ones with > > > parallel port connectors. They appear to be the same level of dumb > > > step-stick style driver inputs that many CNC machines are. > > > > > > So a cheap laser cutter could be adapted to work (the supplied software > > > is notoriously bad) without even changing the electronics. > > > > > > Further research has shown that these cheap cutters tend to have two > > > control boards, one is the psu, and connects to the safety interlocks, > > > the HV laser tube drive, stop switch, etc. this in turn gives 5v, > laser > > > trigger, and motor drive voltage (24V?) outputs. > > > > > > the second board is then the stepper controller / interface board, > > > theres often just two steppers X/Y, end stops, and the TTL level laser > > > on/off trigger, which can be driven with PWM for finer control. > > > > > > So replacing the stepper controller with something more modern is going > > > to be pretty easy if you need to, but if its a parallel port one you > can > > > just as easily put an arduino with GRBL/Marlin on the outside and get > > > the same level of control. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hackspace mailing list > > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > Would it be possible for the interested parties to meet up at the > space one night this week (pref not friday) and we can get it set up, > i can show you how I use the machine just now, then then you guys can > figure out how to run the same thing without a permanent PC in the > loop. Unlikely to happened from me this week sorry. maybe next week. From sevendev.tk at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 07:27:55 2014 From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:27:55 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The dangers of playing with batteries In-Reply-To: References: <5414AD49.10502@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <541A7B6B.2020604@gmail.com> Good Morning Emyr! Ive not got to hackspace for a few weeks, been busy doing stuff, may go away for a few days today now. Are you up to much in Ponty today/tomorrow? I could wander up and say hi to your ponty cross office if your feeling social/not worked under :) ok bye Ian 0754 39 15 15 1 From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 18 08:33:29 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:33:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The dangers of playing with batteries In-Reply-To: <541A7B6B.2020604@gmail.com> References: <5414AD49.10502@aurinia.co.uk> <541A7B6B.2020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: I will probably head to the Cross Cafe lunchtime Bit stressed, one of my clients is in America for three weeks and I'm running his business while he is away. I'll be glad to have a half hour break come 12:30 Meet you in the cafe? Emyr On Thursday, 18 September 2014, Ian Bullfrog wrote: > Good Morning Emyr! > > Ive not got to hackspace for a few weeks, been busy doing stuff, may go > away for a few days today now. > Are you up to much in Ponty today/tomorrow? > > I could wander up and say hi to your ponty cross office if your feeling > social/not worked under :) > > ok bye > Ian > > 0754 39 15 15 1 > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sevendev.tk at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 10:17:09 2014 From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:17:09 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The dangers of playing with batteries In-Reply-To: References: <5414AD49.10502@aurinia.co.uk> <541A7B6B.2020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <541AA315.2070000@gmail.com> elo! hoky doky , sounds like a plan :) I will probably then head off down to the Dragon arts Project, help with webby things. ive got itchy feet and a car and a few free days :) till laters :) From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 18 10:26:03 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:26:03 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The dangers of playing with batteries In-Reply-To: <541AA315.2070000@gmail.com> References: <5414AD49.10502@aurinia.co.uk> <541A7B6B.2020604@gmail.com> <541AA315.2070000@gmail.com> Message-ID: great - see you 12:30 in the Cafe on the Square - delicious breakfasts in there! On 18 September 2014 10:17, Ian Bullfrog wrote: > elo! > hoky doky , sounds like a plan :) > > I will probably then head off down to the Dragon arts Project, help with > webby things. > ive got itchy feet and a car and a few free days :) > > till laters :) > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I prefered the ponty cafe tiny cafe , huge breakfast and cheap :) I shall delay my swansea bit and do house work and ....trim this beard! its been some years! have fun :) cya there From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 18 10:28:22 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:28:22 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FireWire Camera Message-ID: Ceri This is a screen cap from the camera The chimney is about 100m - no trickery on the computer - that is how telephoto the lens is with such a small sensor. https://www.dropbox.com/s/egxz4aqrgp8de8u/Screenshot%202014-09-18%2010.25.09.png?dl=0 Em -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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URL: From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 18 10:31:08 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:31:08 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The dangers of playing with batteries In-Reply-To: <541AA719.4000003@gmail.com> References: <5414AD49.10502@aurinia.co.uk> <541A7B6B.2020604@gmail.com> <541AA315.2070000@gmail.com> <541AA719.4000003@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ohhhhh - I've not been in the Ponty Cafe for almost 10 years - Doubt I will go in there ever again :-( Urgggggghhhh 5 rating in the Square :-) On 18 September 2014 10:34, Ian Bullfrog wrote: > cool. > I prefered the ponty cafe > tiny cafe , huge breakfast and cheap :) > I shall delay my swansea bit and do house work and ....trim this beard! > its been some years! > have fun :) cya there > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 11:02:54 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:02:54 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FireWire Camera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: cool, is the photo without any additional lens ? Ceri On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Emyr Morris wrote: > Ceri > > This is a screen cap from the camera > > The chimney is about 100m - no trickery on the computer - that is how > telephoto the lens is with such a small sensor. > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/egxz4aqrgp8de8u/Screenshot%202014-09-18%2010.25.09.png?dl=0 > > Em > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 18 11:10:43 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:10:43 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] FireWire Camera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: that is the lens on the camera - it isn't really that telephoto in real terms - for instance if it were on a Bolex camera it would give a nice 'wide' the fact that this camera has such a small sensor means that it is only seeing a tiny portion of the lens and appears to be telephoto. This would make quite a wild webcam with this lens... especially if you had a nice view across Swansea Bay - biggest drawback with this lens is the manual iris If I were to use this camera I might be tempted to get a lens with a motorised iris so I could control the lens... shame it is Firewire and not USB, it would be a lot more useful (with a RPi for instance) if it were USB :-/ Looking on eBay earlier I saw some 150mm 'C' Mount telephoto lenses - with something like that you could probably pick out Verdis Ice Cream from Cafe Renos in Port Talbot! :-) Evil Scientist springs to mind... The lens screws off easily and that big collar could come off in a jiffy Em On 18 September 2014 11:02, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > cool, > > is the photo without any additional lens ? > > Ceri > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Emyr Morris wrote: > >> Ceri >> >> This is a screen cap from the camera >> >> The chimney is about 100m - no trickery on the computer - that is how >> telephoto the lens is with such a small sensor. >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/egxz4aqrgp8de8u/Screenshot%202014-09-18%2010.25.09.png?dl=0 >> >> Em >> >> -- >> Mob: 07836 267426 >> >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. >> >> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt >> yn unig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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I am not aware that I linked Facebook to Makerbot - I tend not to do things like that - I will have to go back and check! Off now to make a hat out of tin foil and to put a steel mesh over my windows - the glass ones - I use a Mac ;-) Em -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at harwood-leon.com Thu Sep 18 14:41:49 2014 From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:41:49 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Freaky Facebook Ads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B489BB9-C01C-48ED-AEAD-F6BE0F40F14D@harwood-leon.com> It is possible to target ads on Facebook via email address now. I would guess you have been snarfed as part of a list, a very small and targeted list (I think 20 is the minimum). ? Paul On 18 Sep 2014, at 14:25, Emyr Morris wrote: > I've been using this interweb for a long time now and targeted ads are not something that bother me much - I can not be bothered to clear all of my cookies so I am well used to content being delivered to me based on my habits on Amazon or eBay > > BUT - today I was delivered this advert on Facebook > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zgaoh8ki5t26zv/Screenshot%202014-09-18%2014.19.20.png?dl=0 > > you will recognise it as the design I downloaded from Thingiverse and printed at the hackerspace - the latch for the flap that covers the hazard triangle in the boot of my audi > > not an advert from Thingiverse but an advert from a shop who will print it for me and post it to me (I guess) > > This is taking targeted advertising to a whole new level! I'm not sure to be in awe or to be horrified! > > I am not aware that I linked Facebook to Makerbot - I tend not to do things like that - I will have to go back and check! > > Off now to make a hat out of tin foil and to put a steel mesh over my windows - the glass ones - I use a Mac ;-) > > Em > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've been using this interweb for a long time now and targeted ads are not something that bother me much - I can not be bothered to clear all of my cookies so I am well used to content being delivered to me based on my habits on Amazon or eBay BUT - today I was delivered this advert on Facebook https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zgaoh8ki5t26zv/Screenshot%202014-09-18%2014.19.20.png?dl=0 you will recognise it as the design I downloaded from Thingiverse and printed at the hackerspace - the latch for the flap that covers the hazard triangle in the boot of my audi not an advert from Thingiverse but an advert from a shop who will print it for me and post it to me (I guess) This is taking targeted advertising to a whole new level! I'm not sure to be in awe or to be horrified! I am not aware that I linked Facebook to Makerbot - I tend not to do things like that - I will have to go back and check! 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From sevendev.tk at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 18:54:11 2014 From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:54:11 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Freaky Facebook Ads In-Reply-To: <9B489BB9-C01C-48ED-AEAD-F6BE0F40F14D@harwood-leon.com> References: <9B489BB9-C01C-48ED-AEAD-F6BE0F40F14D@harwood-leon.com> Message-ID: <541B1C43.50003@gmail.com> I dont think Ill click that dropbox link....... :D From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 18 22:00:03 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:00:03 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Freaky Facebook Ads In-Reply-To: <541B1C43.50003@gmail.com> References: <9B489BB9-C01C-48ED-AEAD-F6BE0F40F14D@harwood-leon.com> <541B1C43.50003@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hahaha Dropbox doesn't have adverts, that's why I like it Well, it does, but only for Dropbox On Thursday, 18 September 2014, Ian Bullfrog wrote: > I dont think Ill click that dropbox link....... :D > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 20 09:50:46 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:50:46 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Anyone in today? Message-ID: Hi guys, just heading into townz is anyone there today and can some someome show me how to read the pwn from a motor output on an oscilloscope? No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Sun Sep 21 16:49:15 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 16:49:15 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Sat 27th Sep - Basic Electronics Workshop Message-ID: <1411314555.8832.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Saturday 27th September 2014 11am - 3pm A Mathsless introduction to electronics by Tim Clark Everything you need to know to get started with electronics, including the what, why and how for resistors, leds, transistors and more. All required numbers will be provided free of charge From peter at peterland.net.nz Sun Sep 21 21:59:30 2014 From: peter at peterland.net.nz (Peter Tangney) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:59:30 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] REPRAP question - Yellow Fuses on RAMPS board overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Richard, I had the same problem with the large yellow polyfuse on my RAMPS board, so I ended up removing it and replacing it with a bit of wire, which is a pretty terrible idea, but it hasn't caught on fire yet. IIRC, the bed fuse is rated at 12A, which should be plenty for your bed - what kind of heater are you using? In any case, to get the fan to come on before the bed heats, make sure you add your M106 line before the line that says M190 S[temperature], which is the G-code for 'wait for bed to reach target temperature'. Peter On 14 September 2014 08:34, Richard Morgan wrote: > Hi All, > I have a problem with my 3D printer and I hope you can help. > > *Blowing on the Bed* > When I start a print the bed begins heating and gets as far as about 50 > degrees the stops and cools down again! > > Speaking with Ceri, he suggested it might be the big yellow fuses on the > RAMPS board tripping out. I tested this by 'blowing' on the fuses while > it's heating up and 'bingo' Ceri was right. > > *Fitted a Fan* > So, I fitted a 40mm fan (wired to the D9 point) over the RAMPS board to > cool it down (as it doesn't look that cool to be blowing on your board when > people see you printing!). I added the "M106 S255 ; Turn on RAMPS Board > cooling fan" code in the 'start G-code' section of Slic3r to start the fan > when it goes to print. > > *Remaining Problem* > Problem still is that the fan itself doesn't actually start (i.e. this > command doesn't execute) until the bed has heated to target temp first - > which is where it trips out the fuse. This means that I STILL need to > 'blow' on the board until the bed has reached target temp and then the fan > kicks in and cools the board itself fine! > > So short of wiring the fan to the yellow and black power on the board > (rather than to D9) so that it's always on - is there another way to fix > this problem please? > > All help very gratefully received :-) > > -- > Kind regards, > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Peter Tangney peter at peterland.net.nz http://www.peterland.net.nz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 22 09:31:16 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:31:16 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties to meet up at the > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and we can get it set up, > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, then then you guys can > > figure out how to run the same thing without a permanent PC in the > > loop. I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those works for any one else ? From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 10:27:03 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:27:03 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express Message-ID: how do you chaps pay for stuff on Ali Express? Is it safe just using a debit card?! E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 10:33:04 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:33:04 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 10:27 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > how do you chaps pay for stuff on Ali Express? > > > Is it safe just using a debit card?! I've been using a credit card without problems, the details and payment go to aliexpress/alibaba directly, who afaics escrow the money until you confirm you received the goods Alibaba has been in the news recently as they just went public on the new york stock exchange, their IPO raising a world record $25bn From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 10:42:38 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:42:38 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I love how it is such a rip-off of eBay! Most of the links and functions are so similar thank you E On 23 September 2014 10:33, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 10:27 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > how do you chaps pay for stuff on Ali Express? > > > > > > Is it safe just using a debit card?! > > I've been using a credit card without problems, > the details and payment go to aliexpress/alibaba directly, > who afaics escrow the money until you confirm you received the goods > > > Alibaba has been in the news recently as they just went public on the > new york stock exchange, their IPO raising a world record $25bn > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timmoore47 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 10:49:40 2014 From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:49:40 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Credit cards good (not debit) and best is PayPal but that facilty may no be available. I've had very good results with Ali Express : )) Tim_1 On 23 September 2014 10:42, Emyr Morris wrote: > I love how it is such a rip-off of eBay! Most of the links and functions > are so similar > > thank you > > E > > On 23 September 2014 10:33, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > >> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 10:27 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: >> > how do you chaps pay for stuff on Ali Express? >> > >> > >> > Is it safe just using a debit card?! >> >> I've been using a credit card without problems, >> the details and payment go to aliexpress/alibaba directly, >> who afaics escrow the money until you confirm you received the goods >> >> >> Alibaba has been in the news recently as they just went public on the >> new york stock exchange, their IPO raising a world record $25bn >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It came with a charger brick with a round connector (and eu pins) which i have just discarded, as it charges fine off the standard usb port From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 10:58:56 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:58:56 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: paypal wasn't available... that is my normal choice method of payment. I got myself a RFID thingy for arduino - sooooo cheep! $3.49 with a card and a fob On 23 September 2014 10:49, Tim Moore wrote: > Credit cards good (not debit) and best is PayPal but that facilty may no > be available. > > I've had very good results with Ali Express > > : )) > > Tim_1 > > On 23 September 2014 10:42, Emyr Morris wrote: > >> I love how it is such a rip-off of eBay! Most of the links and functions >> are so similar >> >> thank you >> >> E >> >> On 23 September 2014 10:33, Justin Mitchell >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 10:27 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: >>> > how do you chaps pay for stuff on Ali Express? >>> > >>> > >>> > Is it safe just using a debit card?! >>> >>> I've been using a credit card without problems, >>> the details and payment go to aliexpress/alibaba directly, >>> who afaics escrow the money until you confirm you received the goods >>> >>> >>> Alibaba has been in the news recently as they just went public on the >>> new york stock exchange, their IPO raising a world record $25bn >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hackspace mailing list >>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mob: 07836 267426 >> >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. >> >> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt >> yn unig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 11:00:36 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:00:36 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: <1411466275.19593.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411466275.19593.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: thank you - I will give that some serious consideration On 23 September 2014 10:57, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 10:42 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > I love how it is such a rip-off of eBay! Most of the links and > > functions are so similar > > I've yet to have an order from them not arrive, unlike ebay where it is > increasingly becoming a problem. > > btw that cheap android tablet i bought is this one: > > http://www.aliexpress.com/item//1887400659.html > > Its worth the few extra quid to get the 1GB ram version, my impressions > so far are that it works great, and is faster that the galaxy tab 3 for > a fraction of the price, albeit the battery isn't as big. > > It came with a charger brick with a round connector (and eu pins) which > i have just discarded, as it charges fine off the standard usb port > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 11:08:46 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:08:46 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1411466926.19593.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 10:58 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > paypal wasn't available... that is my normal choice method of > payment. > > > I got myself a RFID thingy for arduino - sooooo cheep! $3.49 with a > card and a fob Watch out that many of those are 3.3v circuits, so you need a level converter as well. i have been using these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item//1972729582.html bi-directional 4 channel 5v-3.3v level converters, it even includes the 3.3v regulator. there will be other listings selling smaller quantities, look for the double-arrow logo on the back to easily pick the right one From neil at aurinia.co.uk Tue Sep 23 11:09:33 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: <1411466275.19593.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411466275.19593.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <542146DD.4010803@aurinia.co.uk> On 23/09/14 10:57, Justin Mitchell wrote: > I've yet to have an order from them not arrive, unlike ebay where it is > increasingly becoming a problem. > > btw that cheap android tablet i bought is this one: > > http://www.aliexpress.com/item//1887400659.html Have you tried BBC Iplayer on it? Does it work? Neil > > Its worth the few extra quid to get the 1GB ram version, my impressions > so far are that it works great, and is faster that the galaxy tab 3 for > a fraction of the price, albeit the battery isn't as big. > > It came with a charger brick with a round connector (and eu pins) which > i have just discarded, as it charges fine off the standard usb port > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 11:19:35 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:19:35 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: <542146DD.4010803@aurinia.co.uk> References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411466275.19593.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <542146DD.4010803@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <1411467575.19593.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 11:09 +0100, Neil Jones wrote: > On 23/09/14 10:57, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > I've yet to have an order from them not arrive, unlike ebay where it is > > increasingly becoming a problem. > > > > btw that cheap android tablet i bought is this one: > > > > http://www.aliexpress.com/item//1887400659.html > > Have you tried BBC Iplayer on it? Does it work? Yes, live and on-demand both work. youtube etc works (not pre-installed, but Play store is) SkyGo did not work, not on the list of approved devices. but everything else has worked fine. cpu/gpu is nice and fast, plays demanding stuff like minion rush fine, screen quality is good, great viewing angles, speaker is run of the mill, battery life could be better, and the case backing is cheap plastic. but then what do you expect for ?40! From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 11:22:33 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:22:33 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: <542146DD.4010803@aurinia.co.uk> References: <1411464784.19593.12.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411466275.19593.18.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <542146DD.4010803@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: good point there! most of my nano boards are 3.3V - I will probably end up using those :-) On 23 September 2014 11:09, Neil Jones wrote: > > On 23/09/14 10:57, Justin Mitchell wrote: > >> I've yet to have an order from them not arrive, unlike ebay where it is >> increasingly becoming a problem. >> >> btw that cheap android tablet i bought is this one: >> >> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//1887400659.html >> > > Have you tried BBC Iplayer on it? Does it work? > > Neil > > > > > > >> Its worth the few extra quid to get the 1GB ram version, my impressions >> so far are that it works great, and is faster that the galaxy tab 3 for >> a fraction of the price, albeit the battery isn't as big. >> >> It came with a charger brick with a round connector (and eu pins) which >> i have just discarded, as it charges fine off the standard usb port >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 23 11:51:09 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:51:09 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express Message-ID: I apper to be getting all emails now, the tablet looks interesting, I've been getting along fine with the Tesco hudle tab, ?59 ince shipping from Tesco ebay outlet if you want a warranty and don't mind having a referbished unit, I couldn't tell mine had been. Justin, will hackspace be stocking things like that level shifter? Per unit price is great but having to buy the quantity is not something I could do very often. P.s. How is the CNC project doing? No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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good point there! most of my nano boards are 3.3V - I will probably end up using those :-) On 23 September 2014 11:09, Neil Jones wrote: > > On 23/09/14 10:57, Justin Mitchell wrote: > >> I've yet to have an order from them not arrive, unlike ebay where it is >> increasingly becoming a problem. >> >> btw that cheap android tablet i bought is this one: >> >> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//1887400659.html >> > > Have you tried BBC Iplayer on it? Does it work? > > Neil > > > > > > >> Its worth the few extra quid to get the 1GB ram version, my impressions >> so far are that it works great, and is faster that the galaxy tab 3 for >> a fraction of the price, albeit the battery isn't as big. >> >> It came with a charger brick with a round connector (and eu pins) which >> i have just discarded, as it charges fine off the standard usb port >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 13:37:57 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:37:57 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1411475877.19593.33.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 11:51 +0100, djdavies83 wrote: > Justin, will hackspace be stocking things like that level shifter? I suppose that would be a useful thing to add, i will add it to the list for next time I am ordering stuff. currently need to shift the arduino starter kits i have been building ready for swampfest before i order more > Per unit price is great but having to buy the quantity is not > something I could do very often. i think there were listings for ?1.50 for singles i should probably get a stock of arduino mini-pro as well > P.s. How is the CNC project doing? Current plan is to meet up wed or thu evening to have a look at it and learn how it works, then we can have a go at using an arduino as controller From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 14:13:22 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ali Express In-Reply-To: <1411475877.19593.33.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411475877.19593.33.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I noticed that the 3d printer was ignored like a naughty child last night. If anybody wants a hand to put it back into working order let me know - I have some time free tonight - the rest of the week isn't so good E On 23 September 2014 13:37, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 11:51 +0100, djdavies83 wrote: > > > Justin, will hackspace be stocking things like that level shifter? > I suppose that would be a useful thing to add, i will add it to the list > for next time I am ordering stuff. currently need to shift the arduino > starter kits i have been building ready for swampfest before i order > more > > > Per unit price is great but having to buy the quantity is not > > something I could do very often. > i think there were listings for ?1.50 for singles > > i should probably get a stock of arduino mini-pro as well > > > P.s. How is the CNC project doing? > Current plan is to meet up wed or thu evening to have a look at it and > learn how it works, then we can have a go at using an arduino as > controller > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 17:26:54 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:26:54 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties to meet up at the > > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and we can get it set up, > > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, then then you guys can > > > figure out how to run the same thing without a permanent PC in the > > > loop. > > I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those works for any one > else ? I'm going to declare Thursday evening, around 7pm, to be getting to know the cnc mill evening. I have some copper clad board somewhere, and some spare arduinos. From em at preseli.com Tue Sep 23 18:30:35 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:30:35 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swamp poster Message-ID: Did you say that the swamp poster is on the website so we can download and print copies? -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 18:35:33 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:35:33 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swamp poster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1411493733.19593.53.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:30 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > Did you say that the swamp poster is on the website so we can download > and print copies? http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Resources/Downloads If anyone knows of a suitable place to put a poster then please do download and print copies as needed. From justin at discordia.org.uk Tue Sep 23 18:43:00 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:43:00 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swamp poster found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1411494180.19593.55.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:32 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > It was logical - on the downloads page not the swamp page! ROTFL forgot there even was a swamp page, it isnt linked to from anywhere, and isnt kept up to date, so i shall delete it now. From em at preseli.com Wed Sep 24 00:24:03 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 00:24:03 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swamp poster found In-Reply-To: <1411494180.19593.55.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411494180.19593.55.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Linked to from t home page... On Tuesday, 23 September 2014, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:32 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > It was logical - on the downloads page not the swamp page! ROTFL > > forgot there even was a swamp page, it isnt linked to from anywhere, and > isnt kept up to date, so i shall delete it now. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Wed Sep 24 09:18:37 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:18:37 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Swamp poster found In-Reply-To: References: <1411494180.19593.55.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1411546717.30589.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> That link goes to an external event listings page, no way to attach a poster there. On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 00:24 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > Linked to from t home page... > > On Tuesday, 23 September 2014, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:32 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > It was logical - on the downloads page not the swamp page! > ROTFL > > forgot there even was a swamp page, it isnt linked to from > anywhere, and > isnt kept up to date, so i shall delete it now. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy > atynt yn unig. > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 06:25:17 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:25:17 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Is milling tonight, or next week??? Ceri On 23 Sep 2014 17:27, "Justin Mitchell" wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > > > > > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties to meet up at the > > > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and we can get it set up, > > > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, then then you guys can > > > > figure out how to run the same thing without a permanent PC in the > > > > loop. > > > > I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those works for any one > > else ? > > I'm going to declare Thursday evening, around 7pm, to be getting to know > the cnc mill evening. > > I have some copper clad board somewhere, and some spare arduinos. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I was going to check too - is it open to all or only 'grown-ups'? ;-) On 25 September 2014 06:25, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > Is milling tonight, or next week??? > Ceri > On 23 Sep 2014 17:27, "Justin Mitchell" wrote: > >> On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: >> > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell wrote: >> > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: >> > > >> > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties to meet up at the >> > > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and we can get it set >> up, >> > > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, then then you guys >> can >> > > > figure out how to run the same thing without a permanent PC in the >> > > > loop. >> > >> > I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those works for any one >> > else ? >> >> I'm going to declare Thursday evening, around 7pm, to be getting to know >> the cnc mill evening. >> >> I have some copper clad board somewhere, and some spare arduinos. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Thu Sep 25 13:22:08 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:22:08 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1411647728.10931.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Tonight, i was aiming to be there around 7 Its going to be graham teaching us how it works and how he uses it, then us trying to hack an arduino controller onto it. Its not meant to be a general tutorial session, so only really for those that want to get their hands dirty and help at this stage. We will run proper tutorials and workshops once weve got to grips with everything, probably alongside more PCB design stuff. On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 10:53 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > I was going to check too - is it open to all or only 'grown-ups'? ;-) > > > On 25 September 2014 06:25, Ceri Clatworthy > wrote: > Is milling tonight, or next week??? > Ceri > > On 23 Sep 2014 17:27, "Justin Mitchell" > wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens > wrote: > > > > > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties > to meet up at the > > > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and > we can get it set up, > > > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, > then then you guys can > > > > figure out how to run the same thing without a > permanent PC in the > > > > loop. > > > > I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those > works for any one > > else ? > > I'm going to declare Thursday evening, around 7pm, to > be getting to know > the cnc mill evening. > > I have some copper clad board somewhere, and some > spare arduinos. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy > atynt yn unig. > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From em at preseli.com Thu Sep 25 13:25:58 2014 From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:25:58 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] An old PC with parallel printer port? In-Reply-To: <1411647728.10931.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411647728.10931.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: best left to the grown-ups then ;-) On 25 September 2014 13:22, Justin Mitchell wrote: > Tonight, i was aiming to be there around 7 > > Its going to be graham teaching us how it works and how he uses it, > then us trying to hack an arduino controller onto it. > > Its not meant to be a general tutorial session, so only really for those > that want to get their hands dirty and help at this stage. > > We will run proper tutorials and workshops once weve got to grips with > everything, probably alongside more PCB design stuff. > > > On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 10:53 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > I was going to check too - is it open to all or only 'grown-ups'? ;-) > > > > > > On 25 September 2014 06:25, Ceri Clatworthy > > wrote: > > Is milling tonight, or next week??? > > Ceri > > > > On 23 Sep 2014 17:27, "Justin Mitchell" > > wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, Justin Mitchell > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties > > to meet up at the > > > > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and > > we can get it set up, > > > > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, > > then then you guys can > > > > > figure out how to run the same thing without a > > permanent PC in the > > > > > loop. > > > > > > I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those > > works for any one > > > else ? > > > > I'm going to declare Thursday evening, around 7pm, to > > be getting to know > > the cnc mill evening. > > > > I have some copper clad board somewhere, and some > > spare arduinos. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mob: 07836 267426 > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. > > > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn > > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy > > atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411647728.10931.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Guys Sorry my phone has kept crashing, so i never seen these messages. Tonight is good for me. I might be a little late, as i need to pack the car and get food (i dont finish work till 5:30, but should be there about 7.30) If I phone, can someone come down and meet me at the door to take stuff in, as I will need to park my car. Graham On 25 September 2014 13:25, Emyr Morris wrote: > best left to the grown-ups then ;-) > > On 25 September 2014 13:22, Justin Mitchell < > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > >> Tonight, i was aiming to be there around 7 >> >> Its going to be graham teaching us how it works and how he uses it, >> then us trying to hack an arduino controller onto it. >> >> Its not meant to be a general tutorial session, so only really for those >> that want to get their hands dirty and help at this stage. >> >> We will run proper tutorials and workshops once weve got to grips with >> everything, probably alongside more PCB design stuff. >> >> >> On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 10:53 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: >> > I was going to check too - is it open to all or only 'grown-ups'? ;-) >> > >> > >> > On 25 September 2014 06:25, Ceri Clatworthy >> > wrote: >> > Is milling tonight, or next week??? >> > Ceri >> > >> > On 23 Sep 2014 17:27, "Justin Mitchell" >> > wrote: >> > On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, Justin Mitchell >> > wrote: >> > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, Justin Mitchell >> > wrote: >> > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 +0100, Graham Owens >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Would it be possible for the interested parties >> > to meet up at the >> > > > > space one night this week (pref not friday) and >> > we can get it set up, >> > > > > i can show you how I use the machine just now, >> > then then you guys can >> > > > > figure out how to run the same thing without a >> > permanent PC in the >> > > > > loop. >> > > >> > > I can make this wed/thu/fri evening if one of those >> > works for any one >> > > else ? >> > >> > I'm going to declare Thursday evening, around 7pm, to >> > be getting to know >> > the cnc mill evening. >> > >> > I have some copper clad board somewhere, and some >> > spare arduinos. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hackspace mailing list >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hackspace mailing list >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mob: 07836 267426 >> > >> > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >> > are addressed. >> > >> > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn >> > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy >> > atynt yn unig. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hackspace mailing list >> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <4402CB6F-9989-41D3-AF7D-0EF2C80C6437@googlemail.com> <1410853856.22012.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858205.22012.27.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410858969.22012.30.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410950687.9361.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410953892.9361.10.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410957119.9361.20.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1410981074.9361.22.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411374676.11558.0.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411489614.19593.43.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> <1411647728.10931.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <1411664059.10931.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> not sure if the voip phone is working, i shall poke it. you can call my mobile if you like, 07977 xxxxxx i will be heading down there soon as i have other stuff i want to do as well. On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 17:40 +0100, Graham Owens wrote: > Hi Guys > > > Sorry my phone has kept crashing, so i never seen these messages. > Tonight is good for me. I might be a little late, as i need to pack > the car and get food (i dont finish work till 5:30, but should be > there about 7.30) > > > If I phone, can someone come down and meet me at the door to take > stuff in, as I will need to park my car. > > > Graham > > On 25 September 2014 13:25, Emyr Morris wrote: > best left to the grown-ups then ;-) > > > On 25 September 2014 13:22, Justin Mitchell > wrote: > Tonight, i was aiming to be there around 7 > > Its going to be graham teaching us how it works and > how he uses it, > then us trying to hack an arduino controller onto it. > > Its not meant to be a general tutorial session, so > only really for those > that want to get their hands dirty and help at this > stage. > > We will run proper tutorials and workshops once weve > got to grips with > everything, probably alongside more PCB design stuff. > > > On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 10:53 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote: > > I was going to check too - is it open to all or only > 'grown-ups'? ;-) > > > > > > On 25 September 2014 06:25, Ceri Clatworthy > > wrote: > > Is milling tonight, or next week??? > > Ceri > > > > On 23 Sep 2014 17:27, "Justin Mitchell" > > wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 09:31 +0100, > Justin Mitchell > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 20:11 +0100, > Justin Mitchell > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:20 > +0100, Graham Owens > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible for the > interested parties > > to meet up at the > > > > > space one night this week > (pref not friday) and > > we can get it set up, > > > > > i can show you how I use the > machine just now, > > then then you guys can > > > > > figure out how to run the same > thing without a > > permanent PC in the > > > > > loop. > > > > > > I can make this wed/thu/fri > evening if one of those > > works for any one > > > else ? > > > > I'm going to declare Thursday > evening, around 7pm, to > > be getting to know > > the cnc mill evening. > > > > I have some copper clad board > somewhere, and some > > spare arduinos. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mob: 07836 267426 > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom they > > are addressed. > > > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir > gydag ef yn > > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y > cyfeiriwyd hwy > > atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to > whom they are addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn > gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y > cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Fri Sep 26 00:55:50 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 00:55:50 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Some Uses Of The Mini Mill Message-ID: Please find attached a few photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you On 26 September 2014 00:55, Graham Owens wrote: > Please find attached a few photos > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at aurinia.co.uk Fri Sep 26 16:56:50 2014 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:56:50 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d printer cost elements Message-ID: <54258CC2.6030904@aurinia.co.uk> Hi Everybody, I'd like to explore the idea of cheaper 3d printing. Looking at our printer and that they cost c?400. It would seem that there must be a way of making them cheaper. What are the most significant elements of cost? Or put it another way if you could wave a magic wand and create certain elements at near zero cost what would they be? Neil From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Fri Sep 26 17:16:14 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:16:14 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d printer cost elements In-Reply-To: <54258CC2.6030904@aurinia.co.uk> References: <54258CC2.6030904@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <1411748174.15566.25.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 16:56 +0100, Neil Jones wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I'd like to explore the idea of cheaper 3d printing. Looking at our > printer and that they cost c?400. It would seem that there must be a way > of making them cheaper. > > What are the most significant elements of cost? > > Or put it another way if you could wave a magic wand and create certain > elements at near zero cost what would they be? The costs just tend to add up. 200 step, NEMA 17 steppers ?10 ish each (x4) RAMPS control board kit ?16 J-head hot end ?20 or so heated bed kit (heater + aluminium plate) ?25 then a big pile of threaded and smooth rods, nuts bolts and washers. and then all the printed parts. researching and getting all the exactly right parts can be very time consuming unless you buy kits of piece, in which case the prices go up. I have seen full kits of parts for a prusa i3 from ?260 but either way you need to invest a lot of time into building it. this was just a quick 5 minute search, as a longer term project if you want to start a page on the wiki with a list of parts and suppliers then you might be able to put something together cheaper. From eclipse at sucs.org Fri Sep 26 19:58:28 2014 From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:58:28 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Sat 27th Sep - Basic Electronics Workshop In-Reply-To: <1411314555.8832.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411314555.8832.2.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <5425B754.7050102@sucs.org> Due to UPS being incapable of finding my new office and not calling me for me to tell them where it is, I'm going to have to postpone tommrows electronics event. I still plan to be in the space tomorrow if people who don't have access want to use the space. Tim On 21/09/14 16:49, Justin Mitchell wrote: > Saturday 27th September 2014 11am - 3pm > > A Mathsless introduction to electronics by Tim Clark > > Everything you need to know to get started with electronics, including > the what, why and how for resistors, leds, transistors and more. > All required numbers will be provided free of charge > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 27 10:14:10 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 10:14:10 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Anyone in today? Message-ID: Anyone in today? I need some reaistors etc. No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 26 September 2014 10:59, Emyr Morris wrote: > brilliant! > > Thank you > > On 26 September 2014 00:55, Graham Owens > wrote: > >> Please find attached a few photos >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> >> > > > -- > Mob: 07836 267426 > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol > ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig. > -- Mob: 07836 267426 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Sat Sep 27 19:48:38 2014 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:48:38 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SWAMP talk timeslots Message-ID: <1411843718.27192.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> We have a few 20 minute talk timeslots still available during SWAMP Fest (two weeks today!, oct 11th) It would be really nice to see more talks representing the hackspace, I'm going to be busy most of the day running workshops, so can some of you folks please step up and offer some subjects Latest list of whats happening: http://swampfest.eventbrite.co.uk From sevendev.tk at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 11:31:41 2014 From: sevendev.tk at gmail.com (Ian Bullfrog) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:31:41 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SWAMP talk timeslots In-Reply-To: <1411843718.27192.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411843718.27192.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: <5427E38D.5090504@gmail.com> Hi there. Ive not been around for a bit.. I am a traveller after all. so, Im currently in Barton st david, in a holiday cottage, just been asked to do another website, thats my FOURTH this week.... and been offered, asked to come back here and house sit in a little over a week. also been asked to come and house sit for a lady who is in hospital,. thats in Glastonbury ..again. where i just spent the Autumnal Equinox... it was rather pokey. so, I shall be back in a bit for few days, then back up here for a bit.... shall endevour to show my face , we shall see. ok till soonish From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Sun Sep 28 21:41:40 2014 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:41:40 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Nokia 5510/3310 screen on Arduino Message-ID: Does anyone have a nokia 5510/3310 screen that works with arduino? If so could someone bring one tomorrow night please? I just want to see if my code works before I buy one. 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URL: From eclipse at sucs.org Mon Sep 29 11:18:13 2014 From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:18:13 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] mill In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <542931E5.3050605@sucs.org> I soldered up a connector for testing yesterday which I was going to bring down and test at the social with an GRBL on an Arduino. Then we can mill an interface board directly. Tim On 29/09/2014 11:15, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > Hi, > I am going to build an interface board dinner time, > > can you remember the www of connections for mill & dweeno connections ?? > > software ... > > also 16Mhz xtal ?? > > > Cheers > > Ceri > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Mon Sep 29 11:56:40 2014 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:56:40 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] mill In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1411988200.5060.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 11:15 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > Hi, > I am going to build an interface board dinner time, Given the need for usb etc etc it would seem the most sensible thing would be to mill ourselves a shield with a DB25 on it wired to all the relevant pins, rather than mucking about making a custom 'duino > > can you remember the www of connections for mill & dweeno connections > ?? https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Connecting-Grbl http://maher-ramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/cnc-engraver-schematics-yoocnc-nt65-3x.html it is also possible to pick the pinouts out of the photos in the yoocnc user manual. From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Mon Sep 29 15:55:16 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:55:16 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] mill In-Reply-To: <1411988200.5060.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1411988200.5060.3.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi guys I wont be about tonight, been up at MIRA, the vehicle testing place since 6am. If you need to know anything you can drop me an email, an i'll try and respond asap. Best Regards Graham Owens > On 29 Sep 2014, at 11:56, Justin Mitchell wrote: > >> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 11:15 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: >> Hi, >> I am going to build an interface board dinner time, > > Given the need for usb etc etc it would seem the most sensible thing > would be to mill ourselves a shield with a DB25 on it wired to all the > relevant pins, rather than mucking about making a custom 'duino > >> >> can you remember the www of connections for mill & dweeno connections >> ?? > https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Connecting-Grbl > > http://maher-ramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/cnc-engraver-schematics-yoocnc-nt65-3x.html > > > it is also possible to pick the pinouts out of the photos in the yoocnc > user manual. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From brian at hoskins.eu Mon Sep 29 16:35:53 2014 From: brian at hoskins.eu (Brian J Hoskins) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:35:53 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] mill Message-ID: <201409291535.s8TFZwwl029307@no2.stoneship.org.uk> MIRA is an interesting place. I've been there a couple of times for EMC testing. On 29 Sep 2014 15:55, Graham Owens wrote: > > Hi guys > > I wont be about tonight, been up at MIRA, the vehicle testing place since 6am.? If you need to know anything you can drop me an email, an i'll try and respond asap. > > Best Regards > > Graham Owens > > > > On 29 Sep 2014, at 11:56, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 11:15 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I am going to build an interface board dinner time, > > > > Given the need for usb etc etc it would seem the most sensible thing > > would be to mill ourselves a shield with a DB25 on it wired to all the > > relevant pins, rather than mucking about making a custom 'duino > > > >> > >> can you remember the www of connections for mill & dweeno connections > >> ?? > > https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Connecting-Grbl > > > > http://maher-ramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/cnc-engraver-schematics-yoocnc-nt65-3x.html > > > > > > it is also possible to pick the pinouts out of the photos in the yoocnc > > user manual. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk Mon Sep 29 20:11:19 2014 From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:11:19 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] mill In-Reply-To: <201409291535.s8TFZwwl029307@no2.stoneship.org.uk> References: <201409291535.s8TFZwwl029307@no2.stoneship.org.uk> Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6342DB1C4@ISS-MBX02.tawe.swan.ac.uk> Dear All, Apologies I cannot attend the meeting tonight. I have just started teaching again and I am weary! Regarding MIRA, one of my students who graduated this year is now working there! regards Timothy Davies ________________________________________ From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Brian J Hoskins [brian at hoskins.eu] Sent: 29 September 2014 16:35 To: Graham Owens Cc: Swansea Hackspace Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] mill MIRA is an interesting place. I've been there a couple of times for EMC testing. On 29 Sep 2014 15:55, Graham Owens wrote: > > Hi guys > > I wont be about tonight, been up at MIRA, the vehicle testing place since 6am. If you need to know anything you can drop me an email, an i'll try and respond asap. > > Best Regards > > Graham Owens > > > > On 29 Sep 2014, at 11:56, Justin Mitchell wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 11:15 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I am going to build an interface board dinner time, > > > > Given the need for usb etc etc it would seem the most sensible thing > > would be to mill ourselves a shield with a DB25 on it wired to all the > > relevant pins, rather than mucking about making a custom 'duino > > > >> > >> can you remember the www of connections for mill & dweeno connections > >> ?? > > https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Connecting-Grbl > > > > http://maher-ramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/cnc-engraver-schematics-yoocnc-nt65-3x.html > > > > > > it is also possible to pick the pinouts out of the photos in the yoocnc > > user manual. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hackspace mailing list > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com Mon Sep 29 20:28:12 2014 From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 20:28:12 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] mill In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6342DB1C4@ISS-MBX02.tawe.swan.ac.uk> References: <201409291535.s8TFZwwl029307@no2.stoneship.org.uk> <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6342DB1C4@ISS-MBX02.tawe.swan.ac.uk> Message-ID: It was EMC testing that i was doing too :) > On 29 Sep 2014, at 20:11, "Davies T." wrote: > > Dear All, > > Apologies I cannot attend the meeting tonight. > I have just started teaching again and I am weary! > > Regarding MIRA, one of my students who graduated > this year is now working there! > > regards > > Timothy Davies > > ________________________________________ > From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Brian J Hoskins [brian at hoskins.eu] > Sent: 29 September 2014 16:35 > To: Graham Owens > Cc: Swansea Hackspace > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] mill > > MIRA is an interesting place. I've been there a couple of times for EMC testing. > >> On 29 Sep 2014 15:55, Graham Owens wrote: >> >> Hi guys >> >> I wont be about tonight, been up at MIRA, the vehicle testing place since 6am. If you need to know anything you can drop me an email, an i'll try and respond asap. >> >> Best Regards >> >> Graham Owens >> >> >>>> On 29 Sep 2014, at 11:56, Justin Mitchell wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 11:15 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I am going to build an interface board dinner time, >>> >>> Given the need for usb etc etc it would seem the most sensible thing >>> would be to mill ourselves a shield with a DB25 on it wired to all the >>> relevant pins, rather than mucking about making a custom 'duino >>> >>>> >>>> can you remember the www of connections for mill & dweeno connections >>>> ?? >>> https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Connecting-Grbl >>> >>> http://maher-ramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/cnc-engraver-schematics-yoocnc-nt65-3x.html >>> >>> >>> it is also possible to pick the pinouts out of the photos in the yoocnc >>> user manual. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hackspace mailing list >>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 13:24:06 2014 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:24:06 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Non manifold model Message-ID: does anyone know how to fix a Non manifold model, and tidy it up / fix it Tim did mention something from Microsoft, but I cannot find it ? 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NetFabb cloud service https://modelrepair.azurewebsites.net/index.php you need a microsoft live account of somekind (an old MSN account works) From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 13:30:54 2014 From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:30:54 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Non manifold model In-Reply-To: <1412079992.17945.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> References: <1412079992.17945.1.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk> Message-ID: I?ve heard good things about Meshlab (http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/) as well, for example see the mesh cleaning filters (erasing of non manifold faces, automatic filling of holes etc.) On 30 Sep 2014, at 13:26, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 13:24 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote: >> does anyone know how to fix a >> Non manifold model, >> and tidy it up / fix it > >> Tim did mention something from Microsoft, but I cannot find it ? > > NetFabb cloud service > > https://modelrepair.azurewebsites.net/index.php > > you need a microsoft live account of somekind (an old MSN account works) > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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