From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Jan  1 18:57:27 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2015 18:57:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hacky New Year
Message-ID: <1420138647.30814.26.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

Hello, and Happy New Year,

If any of you missed this years Royal Institute Christmas Lectures they
were had a strong Hacker ethic, including an attempt to re-enact the
Chaos Computer Clubs Blinkenlights project from 2002.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00pmbqq

We hope that people will be inspired by this to seek out their local
Hackspace, and to encourage those that are just finding us, and those
that have been lurking, we are running a programme of beginners
workshops this month which will be free and open to anyone, as well as
introducing some new regular nights.

Thu  8th Jan 2015 - Introduction to Arduino
Thu 15th Jan 2015 - Textiles Night: Intro to Machine Sewing
Sat 17th Jan 2015 - PCB Design from Concept to Reality
Thu 22nd Jan 2015 - Build Night: Makey Makey
Thu 29th Jan 2015 - 3D Printing: Download, Slice, and Print

For the full details of each session please check the website
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/Next

Our regular Open Night Social will be every Monday night from 7pm as
usual.

Please help us spread the word by tweeting, liking and sharing these
events to your friends and other groups.



From em at preseli.com  Thu Jan  1 19:56:58 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 19:56:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hacky New Year
In-Reply-To: <1420138647.30814.26.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <1420138647.30814.26.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MDgYshXriEqwbbFVFJMG+aWWBaBe0ULmYjzDVoJF0K0g@mail.gmail.com>

Justin, would you mind if I sent an invitation out to the Swansea Amater
Radio Soc vis-?-vis these events? There is a strong 'making' element in HAM
radio.

Regards

Emyr

On 1 January 2015 at 18:57, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> wrote:

> Hello, and Happy New Year,
>
> If any of you missed this years Royal Institute Christmas Lectures they
> were had a strong Hacker ethic, including an attempt to re-enact the
> Chaos Computer Clubs Blinkenlights project from 2002.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00pmbqq
>
> We hope that people will be inspired by this to seek out their local
> Hackspace, and to encourage those that are just finding us, and those
> that have been lurking, we are running a programme of beginners
> workshops this month which will be free and open to anyone, as well as
> introducing some new regular nights.
>
> Thu  8th Jan 2015 - Introduction to Arduino
> Thu 15th Jan 2015 - Textiles Night: Intro to Machine Sewing
> Sat 17th Jan 2015 - PCB Design from Concept to Reality
> Thu 22nd Jan 2015 - Build Night: Makey Makey
> Thu 29th Jan 2015 - 3D Printing: Download, Slice, and Print
>
> For the full details of each session please check the website
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/Next
>
> Our regular Open Night Social will be every Monday night from 7pm as
> usual.
>
> Please help us spread the word by tweeting, liking and sharing these
> events to your friends and other groups.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 21:00:25 2015
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 21:00:25 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hacky New Year
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MDgYshXriEqwbbFVFJMG+aWWBaBe0ULmYjzDVoJF0K0g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1420138647.30814.26.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7MDgYshXriEqwbbFVFJMG+aWWBaBe0ULmYjzDVoJF0K0g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oMtScg1fi45qCU-uWEnMEvhg-UOQePt+eePf59-xPzhWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Please put my name down for the PCB design event on Sat 17th Jan

Very interested !  Just what I need !

Tim_1

On 1 January 2015 at 19:56, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Justin, would you mind if I sent an invitation out to the Swansea Amater
> Radio Soc vis-?-vis these events? There is a strong 'making' element in
> HAM radio.
>
> Regards
>
> Emyr
>
> On 1 January 2015 at 18:57, Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello, and Happy New Year,
>>
>> If any of you missed this years Royal Institute Christmas Lectures they
>> were had a strong Hacker ethic, including an attempt to re-enact the
>> Chaos Computer Clubs Blinkenlights project from 2002.
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00pmbqq
>>
>> We hope that people will be inspired by this to seek out their local
>> Hackspace, and to encourage those that are just finding us, and those
>> that have been lurking, we are running a programme of beginners
>> workshops this month which will be free and open to anyone, as well as
>> introducing some new regular nights.
>>
>> Thu  8th Jan 2015 - Introduction to Arduino
>> Thu 15th Jan 2015 - Textiles Night: Intro to Machine Sewing
>> Sat 17th Jan 2015 - PCB Design from Concept to Reality
>> Thu 22nd Jan 2015 - Build Night: Makey Makey
>> Thu 29th Jan 2015 - 3D Printing: Download, Slice, and Print
>>
>> For the full details of each session please check the website
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/Next
>>
>> Our regular Open Night Social will be every Monday night from 7pm as
>> usual.
>>
>> Please help us spread the word by tweeting, liking and sharing these
>> events to your friends and other groups.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
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> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan  2 21:59:30 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 21:59:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC advice
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MMujcnzfC5ca2bzgwNpxL7iKMmJzoSrq8fpKrMOr+kYQ@mail.gmail.com>

I was looking to buy some milling bits, what shank size do I need to look
for?

Thanks

Em
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Jan  2 22:19:13 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:19:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC advice
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MMujcnzfC5ca2bzgwNpxL7iKMmJzoSrq8fpKrMOr+kYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MMujcnzfC5ca2bzgwNpxL7iKMmJzoSrq8fpKrMOr+kYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1420237153.5810.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Fri, 2015-01-02 at 21:59 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> I was looking to buy some milling bits, what shank size do I need to
> look for?

We have several collets, between 1mm and 7mm, someone really should
catalogue the exact list, but most of the bits we buy are the 1/8th
inch / 3.175mm shank type

i have just acquired a 6mm flat endmill for doing large area levelling
work, and have some smaller ones on order with 1/8th" shank




From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan  2 22:37:13 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 22:37:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC advice
In-Reply-To: <1420237153.5810.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <CAGAFX7MMujcnzfC5ca2bzgwNpxL7iKMmJzoSrq8fpKrMOr+kYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1420237153.5810.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NKDgu6aaf95OpX6hwG_HUcM+fhRwww9zP_E0o4oSmhrw@mail.gmail.com>

 I've built a list of potential 'bits', they range from 0.6 - 1.5mm, some
1/8th and some 15 degree 0.1mm 'pyramid', all with 1/8 shank
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jan  5 14:59:06 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:59:06 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Just arrived
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Met4=buPh8UraCVbwPMU7ye3NXncLUYKjHnomZQD7kTA@mail.gmail.com>

those Chinese are clever!

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From debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jan  1 15:53:19 2015
From: debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk (Debi Withers)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 15:53:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
In-Reply-To: <2124335402.162785.1418902990095.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
References: <544447674.166956.1418902342696.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
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Hello there, 



I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project. 

I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how difficult it would be. 

So here is the project: 

I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio. 

Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the digitised files will be made via a laptop.

Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers - although all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels. 

The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image; turn down the image, still hear the sound.

I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice to flesh out the idea.??
I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better. 

I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise to manage it myself! 

I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...

Many many thanks in advance for your help - 

debi

   
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Jan  5 15:08:36 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:08:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Just arrived
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Met4=buPh8UraCVbwPMU7ye3NXncLUYKjHnomZQD7kTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7Met4=buPh8UraCVbwPMU7ye3NXncLUYKjHnomZQD7kTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1420470516.2050.11.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 14:59 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> those Chinese are clever!

Take it those are ESP8266 ?

I was thinking of holding a workshop on those next month,
probably go for how to program them with the nodemcu firmware and write
simple scripts or something.




From em at preseli.com  Mon Jan  5 15:16:13 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:16:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Just arrived
In-Reply-To: <1420470516.2050.11.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CAGAFX7Met4=buPh8UraCVbwPMU7ye3NXncLUYKjHnomZQD7kTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1420470516.2050.11.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MwbaTMThNVuLZ8aycXrc_HJpgNpF=sQ5=X3phDRpbExg@mail.gmail.com>

I believe they are :-)

a workshop would be wonderful - I don't have time to play with them this
week sadly

Have you had yours yet?

thanks

On 5 January 2015 at 15:08, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 14:59 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > those Chinese are clever!
>
> Take it those are ESP8266 ?
>
> I was thinking of holding a workshop on those next month,
> probably go for how to program them with the nodemcu firmware and write
> simple scripts or something.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jan  5 15:24:53 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:24:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Just arrived
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On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 15:16 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> I believe they are :-)
> 
> 
> a workshop would be wonderful - I don't have time to play with them
> this week sadly
> 
> 
> Have you had yours yet?

Yes, i've had mine for a couple of weeks now, determined to find time to
play with them this week, he says being woefully over optimistic :)





From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 15:26:41 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:26:41 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Just arrived
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Message-ID: <CAO=DJn9C3iz3YhduSAVD73zr4Ko=FT9k9Ux8kD_d0cxL1f-uDA@mail.gmail.com>

Desperate to get my one up & running,
No time to play with getting something new,

:)

Ceri


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I believe they are :-)
>
> a workshop would be wonderful - I don't have time to play with them this
> week sadly
>
> Have you had yours yet?
>
> thanks
>
> On 5 January 2015 at 15:08, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 14:59 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>> > those Chinese are clever!
>>
>> Take it those are ESP8266 ?
>>
>> I was thinking of holding a workshop on those next month,
>> probably go for how to program them with the nodemcu firmware and write
>> simple scripts or something.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mob: 07836 267426
>
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> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
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>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jan  5 15:27:33 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:27:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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I very doubt you will manage that with an Arduino... there is a shield that
will overlay graphics (rudimentary) over composite video.

Composite video is pretty much a no-no these days, between their artefacts
and very low res (575 lines ish)

If you are working to a low budget then your best place to start would
probably be an existing computer (needs to be decent) and spend your bucks
on a very good graphics card that has 8 outputs (or two graphics cards with
four (quad) outputs)

This is how we put the score screens on podiums on TV quiz shows.

You would then write code in something like Visual Basic that would then
populate the screens

I say 8 outputs as you will need one screen for control and then the other
4 display screens

The audio out would come via your sound card / amps / speakers etc

This way you will be able to use existing video libs to open your various
AVI/MPEG files and send them to the correct destination.

This then goes back to your computer - to play four different videos at the
same time will require some pretty good hardware, while your graphics cards
will do most of the donkey work the computer will have to be fairly decent
with plenty of RAM to be able to cope with the data throughput. So fast
processors and fast RAM and plenty of it.

An ambitious project.

On the other hand, depending on the quality required, there is a lot of non
HD equipment now coming on the market as old SD studios and OB trucks are
closing down.

There is a lot of kit that can do this sort of thing available on BB List.
I have to do the school run now so I don't have time to search for a
suitable piece of kit for you right now. http://www.bblist.co.uk/

I can make enquiries for you if you like.

Emyr




On 1 January 2015 at 15:53, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Hello there,
>
>
>
> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
>
> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how
> difficult it would be.
>
> So here is the project:
>
> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play back
> up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
>
> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a mixing
> desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the machine have
> the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how loud the
> audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the digitised
> files will be made via a laptop.
>
> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers - although
> all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker - so
> comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
>
> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be
> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image;
> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
>
> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice
> to flesh out the idea.
>
> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
>
> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise
> to manage it myself!
>
> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
>
> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
>
> debi
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jan  5 15:27:41 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:27:41 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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Sorry this got delayed, the large attachment triggered the spam filters
and i only just noticed it.

On Thu, 2015-01-01 at 15:53 +0000, Debi Withers wrote:

> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play
> back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio. 

> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers -
> although all the audio channels will probably be played through one
> speaker - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio
> channels. 

> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for
> advice to flesh out the idea.  

Definitely not the kind of thing an Arduino could handle, at a stretch
you might get one to decode a single audio stream, but no way they could
handle video decoding.

You would need something at least as powerful as a Raspberry Pi to do
video decodes, and even then you would need one per stream.

Mostly i think it would be a software problem, writing a control
interface and remotely controlling playback on each device, steaming the
media over ethernet from some sort of master computer or NAS.

The audio mixing might be better done in analogue, with a traditional
mixer, after the RPi's have decoded it along with the video streams.

There are others in the group with better experience with playback and
mixing than me, ive done mostly video/audio encoding work

> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this
> date...
It would be better to turn up on a Monday when we have our Open Social
Nights, there will be more and wider range of people available to talk
about ideas than there would be during a specific workshop.





From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 15:36:16 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:36:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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What have you in mind for the screens,
are you thinking of 4 PC like monitors,

because, just driving 4 (additional) monitors from a laptop could be very
expensive !!

or something a little more basic, may be not as good as  a Nintendo DS /
Sony PlayStation Portable screen

perhaps 280*320 pixels (lots of flavors available from china)


If you only need to faid the back-light up/down, - giving appearance of
screen on/off,
Then that is potentially VERY simple.

As always,
More Info,
More Help :)

Ceri

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>
> Hello there,
>
>
>
> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
>
> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how
> difficult it would be.
>
> So here is the project:
>
> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play back
> up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
>
> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a mixing
> desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the machine have
> the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how loud the
> audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the digitised
> files will be made via a laptop.
>
> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers - although
> all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker - so
> comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
>
> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be
> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image;
> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
>
> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice
> to flesh out the idea.
>
> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
>
> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise
> to manage it myself!
>
> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
>
> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
>
> debi
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 16:28:02 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:28:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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If you could cope with a slideshow (cartoon like graphics)

then 2344115
<http://uk.farnell.com/mikroelektronika/mikroe-1429/ft800-connect-eve-add-on-board/dp/2344115>
from
Farnell,

http://www.ftdichip.com/EVE.htm

at ?53, each, not the cheapest solution, but amazingly modular.
Keeping your code over head very low.

Also it can (if i remember correctly) play wav files, and do graphs charts
etc.

additionally for ?26, there is VM800C43A-N
<http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/vm800c43a-n/ft800-eve-module-fpc-ffc-40-lcd/dp/2355186>
,
But you will need a PSP screen (or comparable)

One of our other members has used an Ardweeno version, intended for
creating 80's style video game consoles.

Ceri

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What have you in mind for the screens,
> are you thinking of 4 PC like monitors,
>
> because, just driving 4 (additional) monitors from a laptop could be very
> expensive !!
>
> or something a little more basic, may be not as good as  a Nintendo DS /
> Sony PlayStation Portable screen
>
> perhaps 280*320 pixels (lots of flavors available from china)
>
>
> If you only need to faid the back-light up/down, - giving appearance of
> screen on/off,
> Then that is potentially VERY simple.
>
> As always,
> More Info,
> More Help :)
>
> Ceri
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
>> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
>>
>> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how
>> difficult it would be.
>>
>> So here is the project:
>>
>> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play
>> back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
>>
>> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a
>> mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the
>> machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how
>> loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the
>> digitised files will be made via a laptop.
>>
>> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers -
>> although all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker
>> - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
>>
>> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
>> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be
>> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image;
>> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
>>
>> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
>> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice
>> to flesh out the idea.
>>
>> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
>>
>> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
>> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise
>> to manage it myself!
>>
>> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
>>
>> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
>>
>> debi
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 16:39:35 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:39:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tap
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Do you still need to re tap the thread? ??

Got work tools I could bring. .
What size M8  ??
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From jon.j.lilley at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 16:41:56 2015
From: jon.j.lilley at gmail.com (jon lilley)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:41:56 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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Hope you don't mind my popping in my two penn'orth here. :)
Depending on how the video & images need to be mixed and controlled, I'd be
thinking of something like a Raspberry Pi to control each screen (with any
needed video files duplicated on each machine) and have them controlled by
the laptop and/or a "control surface" with the knobs & dials
required...easy enough to do with Arduino and a bit of coding, I'd think?

I think it really depends on how much processing you're going to need to do
with the video.. The Pi is good at displaying, but a little underpowered
for manipulation.

Jon
On 5 Jan 2015 16:28, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you could cope with a slideshow (cartoon like graphics)
>
> then 2344115
> <http://uk.farnell.com/mikroelektronika/mikroe-1429/ft800-connect-eve-add-on-board/dp/2344115> from
> Farnell,
>
> http://www.ftdichip.com/EVE.htm
>
> at ?53, each, not the cheapest solution, but amazingly modular.
> Keeping your code over head very low.
>
> Also it can (if i remember correctly) play wav files, and do graphs charts
> etc.
>
> additionally for ?26, there is VM800C43A-N
> <http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/vm800c43a-n/ft800-eve-module-fpc-ffc-40-lcd/dp/2355186>
> ,
> But you will need a PSP screen (or comparable)
>
> One of our other members has used an Ardweeno version, intended for
> creating 80's style video game consoles.
>
> Ceri
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> What have you in mind for the screens,
>> are you thinking of 4 PC like monitors,
>>
>> because, just driving 4 (additional) monitors from a laptop could be very
>> expensive !!
>>
>> or something a little more basic, may be not as good as  a Nintendo DS /
>> Sony PlayStation Portable screen
>>
>> perhaps 280*320 pixels (lots of flavors available from china)
>>
>>
>> If you only need to faid the back-light up/down, - giving appearance of
>> screen on/off,
>> Then that is potentially VERY simple.
>>
>> As always,
>> More Info,
>> More Help :)
>>
>> Ceri
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
>>> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
>>>
>>> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of
>>> how difficult it would be.
>>>
>>> So here is the project:
>>>
>>> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play
>>> back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
>>>
>>> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a
>>> mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the
>>> machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how
>>> loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the
>>> digitised files will be made via a laptop.
>>>
>>> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers -
>>> although all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker
>>> - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
>>>
>>> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
>>> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be
>>> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image;
>>> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
>>>
>>> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
>>> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice
>>> to flesh out the idea.
>>>
>>> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
>>>
>>> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
>>> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise
>>> to manage it myself!
>>>
>>> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
>>>
>>> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
>>>
>>> debi
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jan  5 17:21:46 2015
From: debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk (Debi Withers)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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hi Emyr,?
I've been conversing with Ceri (I think off list)...
something I didn't make clear in previous email was this:?
The channels being played back will comprise of
4 audio (most likely mp3s, because I want file sizes to be as small as possible)
3 image (so either pdfs OR JPEGS - which might need to be scrolled in order to read a document)
1 video (I say this because apparently the size of video files might pose a problem if I was to stream more than one video file from a laptop)
I think this will make a difference to the set up as video files are big....
SD video is also fine, it doesn't have to be great quality - the project is about transmission so the processes through which this occurs (the qualities/ mutations of the signal, etc), are an important part of the configuration.?
When the image is clear, it is important that JPEGs, etc are not pixelated.?
Once I figure out what equipment is required, enquiries at the BB list would be great...
thank you all so much
debi
?www.debi-rah.net

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     On Monday, 5 January 2015, 7:27, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
   

 I very doubt you will manage that with an Arduino... there is a shield that will overlay graphics (rudimentary) over composite video.

Composite video is pretty much a no-no these days, between their artefacts and very low res (575 lines ish)

If you are working to a low budget then your best place to start would probably be an existing computer (needs to be decent) and spend your bucks on a very good graphics card that has 8 outputs (or two graphics cards with four (quad) outputs)

This is how we put the score screens on podiums on TV quiz shows.

You would then write code in something like Visual Basic that would then populate the screens

I say 8 outputs as you will need one screen for control and then the other 4 display screens

The audio out would come via your sound card / amps / speakers etc

This way you will be able to use existing video libs to open your various AVI/MPEG files and send them to the correct destination.

This then goes back to your computer - to play four different videos at the same time will require some pretty good hardware, while your graphics cards will do most of the donkey work the computer will have to be fairly decent with plenty of RAM to be able to cope with the data throughput. So fast processors and fast RAM and plenty of it.

An ambitious project.

On the other hand, depending on the quality required, there is a lot of non HD equipment now coming on the market as old SD studios and OB trucks are closing down.

There is a lot of kit that can do this sort of thing available on BB List. I have to do the school run now so I don't have time to search for a suitable piece of kit for you right now. http://www.bblist.co.uk/

I can make enquiries for you if you like.
Emyr




On 1 January 2015 at 15:53, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


Hello there, 



I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project. 

I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how difficult it would be. 

So here is the project: 

I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio. 

Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the digitised files will be made via a laptop.

Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers - although all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels. 

The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image; turn down the image, still hear the sound.

I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice to flesh out the idea.??
I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better. 

I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise to manage it myself! 

I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...

Many many thanks in advance for your help - 

debi

    
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From debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jan  5 17:31:13 2015
From: debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk (Debi Withers)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:31:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
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in answer to the question of how the video needs to be displayed, there is no manipulation it just needs to be selected and played back, possibly paused or rewound.?
Video will only be one of the channels, the other 3 will be jpeg or pdf; 4 audio (mp3s I expect)
would this still make the raspberry pi the best option??
thanks again everyone for this amazing input and ideas,?
debi?www.debi-rah.net

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:39:35 +0000
From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
To: Hackers <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>,??? Justin Mitchell
??? <justin at discordia.org.uk>
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tap
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Do you still need to re tap the thread? ??

Got work tools I could bring. .
What size M8? ??
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:41:56 +0000
From: jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com>
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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Hope you don't mind my popping in my two penn'orth here. :)
Depending on how the video & images need to be mixed and controlled, I'd be
thinking of something like a Raspberry Pi to control each screen (with any
needed video files duplicated on each machine) and have them controlled by
the laptop and/or a "control surface" with the knobs & dials
required...easy enough to do with Arduino and a bit of coding, I'd think?

I think it really depends on how much processing you're going to need to do
with the video.. The Pi is good at displaying, but a little underpowered
for manipulation.

Jon
On 5 Jan 2015 16:28, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you could cope with a slideshow (cartoon like graphics)
>
> then 2344115
> <http://uk.farnell.com/mikroelektronika/mikroe-1429/ft800-connect-eve-add-on-board/dp/2344115> from
> Farnell,
>
> http://www.ftdichip.com/EVE.htm
>
> at ?53, each, not the cheapest solution, but amazingly modular.
> Keeping your code over head very low.
>
> Also it can (if i remember correctly) play wav files, and do graphs charts
> etc.
>
> additionally for ?26, there is VM800C43A-N
> <http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/vm800c43a-n/ft800-eve-module-fpc-ffc-40-lcd/dp/2355186>
> ,
> But you will need a PSP screen (or comparable)
>
> One of our other members has used an Ardweeno version, intended for
> creating 80's style video game consoles.
>
> Ceri
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> What have you in mind for the screens,
>> are you thinking of 4 PC like monitors,
>>
>> because, just driving 4 (additional) monitors from a laptop could be very
>> expensive !!
>>
>> or something a little more basic, may be not as good as? a Nintendo DS /
>> Sony PlayStation Portable screen
>>
>> perhaps 280*320 pixels (lots of flavors available from china)
>>
>>
>> If you only need to faid the back-light up/down, - giving appearance of
>> screen on/off,
>> Then that is potentially VERY simple.
>>
>> As always,
>> More Info,
>> More Help :)
>>
>> Ceri
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
>>> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
>>>
>>> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of
>>> how difficult it would be.
>>>
>>> So here is the project:
>>>
>>> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play
>>> back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
>>>
>>> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a
>>> mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the
>>> machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how
>>> loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the
>>> digitised files will be made via a laptop.
>>>
>>> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers -
>>> although all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker
>>> - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
>>>
>>> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
>>> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be
>>> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image;
>>> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
>>>
>>> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
>>> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice
>>> to flesh out the idea.
>>>
>>> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
>>>
>>> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
>>> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise
>>> to manage it myself!
>>>
>>> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
>>>
>>> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
>>>
>>> debi
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
To: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>,??? Swansea Hackspace
??? <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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hi Emyr,?
I've been conversing with Ceri (I think off list)...
something I didn't make clear in previous email was this:?
The channels being played back will comprise of
4 audio (most likely mp3s, because I want file sizes to be as small as possible)
3 image (so either pdfs OR JPEGS - which might need to be scrolled in order to read a document)
1 video (I say this because apparently the size of video files might pose a problem if I was to stream more than one video file from a laptop)
I think this will make a difference to the set up as video files are big....
SD video is also fine, it doesn't have to be great quality - the project is about transmission so the processes through which this occurs (the qualities/ mutations of the signal, etc), are an important part of the configuration.?
When the image is clear, it is important that JPEGs, etc are not pixelated.?
Once I figure out what equipment is required, enquiries at the BB list would be great...
thank you all so much
debi
?www.debi-rah.net

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? ? On Monday, 5 January 2015, 7:27, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
? 

 I very doubt you will manage that with an Arduino... there is a shield that will overlay graphics (rudimentary) over composite video.

Composite video is pretty much a no-no these days, between their artefacts and very low res (575 lines ish)

If you are working to a low budget then your best place to start would probably be an existing computer (needs to be decent) and spend your bucks on a very good graphics card that has 8 outputs (or two graphics cards with four (quad) outputs)

This is how we put the score screens on podiums on TV quiz shows.

You would then write code in something like Visual Basic that would then populate the screens

I say 8 outputs as you will need one screen for control and then the other 4 display screens

The audio out would come via your sound card / amps / speakers etc

This way you will be able to use existing video libs to open your various AVI/MPEG files and send them to the correct destination.

This then goes back to your computer - to play four different videos at the same time will require some pretty good hardware, while your graphics cards will do most of the donkey work the computer will have to be fairly decent with plenty of RAM to be able to cope with the data throughput. So fast processors and fast RAM and plenty of it.

An ambitious project.

On the other hand, depending on the quality required, there is a lot of non HD equipment now coming on the market as old SD studios and OB trucks are closing down.

There is a lot of kit that can do this sort of thing available on BB List. I have to do the school run now so I don't have time to search for a suitable piece of kit for you right now. http://www.bblist.co.uk/

I can make enquiries for you if you like.
Emyr




On 1 January 2015 at 15:53, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


Hello there, 



I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project. 

I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how difficult it would be. 

So here is the project: 

I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio. 

Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the digitised files will be made via a laptop.

Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers - although all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels. 

The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image; turn down the image, still hear the sound.

I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice to flesh out the idea.??
I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better. 

I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise to manage it myself! 

I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...

Many many thanks in advance for your help - 

debi

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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Mon Jan  5 18:22:00 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:22:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <1995219776.4850018.1420479073356.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.1525.1420478678.9934.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:31:13 +0000 (UTC)
Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> in answer to the question of how the video needs to be displayed, there is no manipulation it just needs to be selected and played back, possibly paused or rewound.?
> Video will only be one of the channels, the other 3 will be jpeg or pdf; 4 audio (mp3s I expect)
> would this still make the raspberry pi the best option??
> thanks again everyone for this amazing input and ideas,?
> debi?www.debi-rah.net

The PI has various bits of hardware video acceleration so its actually
ideal for that bit. JPEG is easy for anything with a bit of memory and
CPU power. MP3/OGG/FLAC etc shouldn't really stretch it much.

PDF might be a bit more of a challenge, you can't stream PDF and it can
use a lot of compute power to process a document.

Alan


From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Mon Jan  5 18:27:02 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:27:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Just arrived
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:59:06 +0000
Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> those Chinese are clever!
> 

You went for the ones without the SD etc pinned out then ?

Alan


From em at preseli.com  Tue Jan  6 01:27:05 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 01:27:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <1995219776.4850018.1420479073356.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
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A Raspberry Pi per screen and a client server model is the option I am
perusing on a current project.

Ask me in a month how it is going git should be live by then)

On Monday, 5 January 2015, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> in answer to the question of how the video needs to be displayed, there is
> no manipulation it just needs to be selected and played back, possibly
> paused or rewound.
>
> Video will only be one of the channels, the other 3 will be jpeg or pdf; 4
> audio (mp3s I expect)
>
> would this still make the raspberry pi the best option?
>
> thanks again everyone for this amazing input and ideas,
>
> debi
>
> www.debi-rah.net
>
> Publishing - http://www.hammeronpress.net
> Create-Ahh - http://create-ahh.org.uk
> Public History - http://feministarchivesouth.org.uk
> Great Bear Analogue & Digital Media Tape Blog-
> http://www.thegreatbear.net/blog/
> https://twitter.com/deborahmwithers
>
>
>   On Monday, 5 January 2015, 9:24, "
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:39:35 +0000
> From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> To: Hackers <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>,    Justin Mitchell
>     <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tap
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> Do you still need to re tap the thread? ??
>
> Got work tools I could bring. .
> What size M8  ??
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> From: jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com>
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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> Hope you don't mind my popping in my two penn'orth here. :)
> Depending on how the video & images need to be mixed and controlled, I'd be
> thinking of something like a Raspberry Pi to control each screen (with any
> needed video files duplicated on each machine) and have them controlled by
> the laptop and/or a "control surface" with the knobs & dials
> required...easy enough to do with Arduino and a bit of coding, I'd think?
>
> I think it really depends on how much processing you're going to need to do
> with the video.. The Pi is good at displaying, but a little underpowered
> for manipulation.
>
> Jon
> On 5 Jan 2015 16:28, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you could cope with a slideshow (cartoon like graphics)
> >
> > then 2344115
> > <
> http://uk.farnell.com/mikroelektronika/mikroe-1429/ft800-connect-eve-add-on-board/dp/2344115>
> from
> > Farnell,
> >
> > http://www.ftdichip.com/EVE.htm
> >
> > at ?53, each, not the cheapest solution, but amazingly modular.
> > Keeping your code over head very low.
> >
> > Also it can (if i remember correctly) play wav files, and do graphs
> charts
> > etc.
> >
> > additionally for ?26, there is VM800C43A-N
> > <
> http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/vm800c43a-n/ft800-eve-module-fpc-ffc-40-lcd/dp/2355186
> >
> > ,
> > But you will need a PSP screen (or comparable)
> >
> > One of our other members has used an Ardweeno version, intended for
> > creating 80's style video game consoles.
> >
> > Ceri
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <
> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> What have you in mind for the screens,
> >> are you thinking of 4 PC like monitors,
> >>
> >> because, just driving 4 (additional) monitors from a laptop could be
> very
> >> expensive !!
> >>
> >> or something a little more basic, may be not as good as  a Nintendo DS /
> >> Sony PlayStation Portable screen
> >>
> >> perhaps 280*320 pixels (lots of flavors available from china)
> >>
> >>
> >> If you only need to faid the back-light up/down, - giving appearance of
> >> screen on/off,
> >> Then that is potentially VERY simple.
> >>
> >> As always,
> >> More Info,
> >> More Help :)
> >>
> >> Ceri
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hello there,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
> >>> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
> >>>
> >>> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of
> >>> how difficult it would be.
> >>>
> >>> So here is the project:
> >>>
> >>> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play
> >>> back up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
> >>>
> >>> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a
> >>> mixing desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the
> >>> machine have the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e.,
> how
> >>> loud the audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of
> the
> >>> digitised files will be made via a laptop.
> >>>
> >>> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers -
> >>> although all the audio channels will probably be played through one
> speaker
> >>> - so comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
> >>>
> >>> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
> >>> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can
> be
> >>> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the
> image;
> >>> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
> >>>
> >>> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
> >>> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for
> advice
> >>> to flesh out the idea.
> >>>
> >>> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
> >>>
> >>> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
> >>> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical
> expertise
> >>> to manage it myself!
> >>>
> >>> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
> >>>
> >>> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
> >>>
> >>> debi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Hackspace mailing list
> >>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>,    Swansea Hackspace
>     <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] New Member and project Question
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>
> hi Emyr,?
> I've been conversing with Ceri (I think off list)...
> something I didn't make clear in previous email was this:?
> The channels being played back will comprise of
> 4 audio (most likely mp3s, because I want file sizes to be as small as
> possible)
> 3 image (so either pdfs OR JPEGS - which might need to be scrolled in
> order to read a document)
> 1 video (I say this because apparently the size of video files might pose
> a problem if I was to stream more than one video file from a laptop)
> I think this will make a difference to the set up as video files are
> big....
> SD video is also fine, it doesn't have to be great quality - the project
> is about transmission so the processes through which this occurs (the
> qualities/ mutations of the signal, etc), are an important part of the
> configuration.?
> When the image is clear, it is important that JPEGs, etc are not
> pixelated.?
> Once I figure out what equipment is required, enquiries at the BB list
> would be great...
> thank you all so much
> debi
> ?www.debi-rah.net
>
> Publishing -?http://www.hammeronpress.net?
> Create-Ahh - http://create-ahh.org.ukPublic History -?
> http://feministarchivesouth.org.uk
> Great Bear Analogue & Digital Media Tape Blog-?
> http://www.thegreatbear.net/blog/
> https://twitter.com/deborahmwithers
>
>     On Monday, 5 January 2015, 7:27, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>
> I very doubt you will manage that with an Arduino... there is a shield
> that will overlay graphics (rudimentary) over composite video.
>
> Composite video is pretty much a no-no these days, between their artefacts
> and very low res (575 lines ish)
>
> If you are working to a low budget then your best place to start would
> probably be an existing computer (needs to be decent) and spend your bucks
> on a very good graphics card that has 8 outputs (or two graphics cards with
> four (quad) outputs)
>
> This is how we put the score screens on podiums on TV quiz shows.
>
> You would then write code in something like Visual Basic that would then
> populate the screens
>
> I say 8 outputs as you will need one screen for control and then the other
> 4 display screens
>
> The audio out would come via your sound card / amps / speakers etc
>
> This way you will be able to use existing video libs to open your various
> AVI/MPEG files and send them to the correct destination.
>
> This then goes back to your computer - to play four different videos at
> the same time will require some pretty good hardware, while your graphics
> cards will do most of the donkey work the computer will have to be fairly
> decent with plenty of RAM to be able to cope with the data throughput. So
> fast processors and fast RAM and plenty of it.
>
> An ambitious project.
>
> On the other hand, depending on the quality required, there is a lot of
> non HD equipment now coming on the market as old SD studios and OB trucks
> are closing down.
>
> There is a lot of kit that can do this sort of thing available on BB List.
> I have to do the school run now so I don't have time to search for a
> suitable piece of kit for you right now. http://www.bblist.co.uk/
>
> I can make enquiries for you if you like.
> Emyr
>
>
>
>
> On 1 January 2015 at 15:53, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hello there,
>
>
>
> I am a new member to this list and am considering joining the Swansea
> Hackspace fir 6 months next year to realise a project.
>
> I am writing initially here to get some advice and some indication of how
> difficult it would be.
>
> So here is the project:
>
> I want to make a 'transmission machine' which can simultaneously play back
> up to 8 channels of digitised media - video, images and audio.
>
> Ideally the levels will be controlled by an external device, like a mixing
> desk/ interface, because it is important that people using the machine have
> the physical experience of controlling the levels - i.e., how loud the
> audio can played, the clarity of the image. The selections of the digitised
> files will be made via a laptop.
>
> Attached to the 8 outputs will be four screens and 1-4 speakers - although
> all the audio channels will probably be played through one speaker - so
> comparable to a live mix which plays back multiple audio channels.
>
> The one complicated thing perhaps is ideally to separate the audio and
> moving image of the video file so that the audio and image levels can be
> controlled separately, i.e., turn down the sound but still play the image;
> turn down the image, still hear the sound.
>
> I've asked a friend of mine who seems to think this would be possible
> through Arduino, but I wanted to check in with a local hackspace for advice
> to flesh out the idea.??
> I've attached a diagram if this helps to explain the idea better.
>
> I live in Drefach Felindre but could travel to Swansea to work on the
> circuit if people could help me. I don't quite have the technical expertise
> to manage it myself!
>
> I see there is a workshop on 8 Jan but sadly I cannot make this date...
>
> Many many thanks in advance for your help -
>
> debi
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 07:23:00 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 07:23:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS3288F41F4BE9786E6BB2D84C6460@phx.gbl>


Hey Justin, I would love to attend a workshop in programming the esp8266, mine appears to have gone AWOL (probably because it felt neglected).

Just did a search on BangGood, they have expanded their line of esp8266...

http://www.banggood.com/buy/Esp8266.html?p=JS3018075348201208

I plane to buy at least 2 so they can talk to each other, which one should I get?

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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Jan  7 09:32:52 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:32:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS3288F41F4BE9786E6BB2D84C6460@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS3288F41F4BE9786E6BB2D84C6460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1420623172.31237.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 07:23 +0000, djdavies83 wrote:

> Hey Justin, I would love to attend a workshop in programming the
> esp8266, mine appears to have gone AWOL (probably because it felt
> neglected).

> I plan to buy at least 2 so they can talk to each other, which one
> should I get?

I have just the standard one with the 8 pin outs that have the antenna
on the board (the wiggly track version)

istr emyr's photo shows he has the same




From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan  7 11:50:36 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 11:50:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RADIO HAM - Foundation training and Exam
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Nj-wB-WtK63Uk_wjAyt2vFTZFv_2oKi8Bv=oMRvRX5JQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

anybody interested in becoming licenced for Amateur Radio can do so at the
Carmarthen Amater Radio Society in March

Training starts on the 20th of January (Tuesday night - 7pm)

There is a fee for the exam that will be payable (cash or card) on the 20th

To do the training you will need the book

Foundation Now
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan  7 11:17:17 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 11:17:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <1420623172.31237.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS3288F41F4BE9786E6BB2D84C6460@phx.gbl>
	<1420623172.31237.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NSRct3qKev=mbtyTsLxDmxBrOesP4duba++F9OAriOiw@mail.gmail.com>

I made this little breadboard adapter last night - something is wrong
somewhere as CoolTerm wan't talk the the ESP8266 yet... the red lights up,
everything is set to 3.3V so I should be cooking...

Looking at the toolchains most seem suited to Windoze or Debian (I use Mac
- not too dissimilar under the hood) but I am just a tiny bit lost with all
the instructions, I'm not very familiar with compiling binaries

I might look at some of my old laptops and see if I can re-purpose one for
Debian, it wouldn't be a bad idea

On 7 January 2015 at 09:32, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 07:23 +0000, djdavies83 wrote:
>
> > Hey Justin, I would love to attend a workshop in programming the
> > esp8266, mine appears to have gone AWOL (probably because it felt
> > neglected).
>
> > I plan to buy at least 2 so they can talk to each other, which one
> > should I get?
>
> I have just the standard one with the 8 pin outs that have the antenna
> on the board (the wiggly track version)
>
> istr emyr's photo shows he has the same
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jan  7 11:59:36 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 11:59:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NSRct3qKev=mbtyTsLxDmxBrOesP4duba++F9OAriOiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS3288F41F4BE9786E6BB2D84C6460@phx.gbl>
	<1420623172.31237.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NSRct3qKev=mbtyTsLxDmxBrOesP4duba++F9OAriOiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1420631976.31237.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 11:17 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> I made this little breadboard adapter last night - something is wrong
> somewhere as CoolTerm wan't talk the the ESP8266 yet... the red lights
> up, everything is set to 3.3V so I should be cooking...
> 
> 
> Looking at the toolchains most seem suited to Windoze or Debian (I use
> Mac - not too dissimilar under the hood) but I am just a tiny bit lost
> with all the instructions, I'm not very familiar with compiling
> binaries
> 
> 
> I might look at some of my old laptops and see if I can re-purpose one
> for Debian, it wouldn't be a bad idea

Run it in a VM instead ?

istr theres a VirtualBox install for OSX






From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan  7 12:07:32 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 12:07:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <1420631976.31237.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS3288F41F4BE9786E6BB2D84C6460@phx.gbl>
	<1420623172.31237.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NSRct3qKev=mbtyTsLxDmxBrOesP4duba++F9OAriOiw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1420631976.31237.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OTm4uB-apd4-6+x=pMuOj76LbZkcRyF1HhrC6MLdGhyw@mail.gmail.com>

yes... a VM might be another way... I have windows VM on my laptop but I
have yet to install anything on my desktop. In an ideal world I want the
same toolchain on both machines - so yes a VM would be a very good idea

 thanks for the tip

On 7 January 2015 at 11:59, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 11:17 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > I made this little breadboard adapter last night - something is wrong
> > somewhere as CoolTerm wan't talk the the ESP8266 yet... the red lights
> > up, everything is set to 3.3V so I should be cooking...
> >
> >
> > Looking at the toolchains most seem suited to Windoze or Debian (I use
> > Mac - not too dissimilar under the hood) but I am just a tiny bit lost
> > with all the instructions, I'm not very familiar with compiling
> > binaries
> >
> >
> > I might look at some of my old laptops and see if I can re-purpose one
> > for Debian, it wouldn't be a bad idea
>
> Run it in a VM instead ?
>
> istr theres a VirtualBox install for OSX
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan  7 12:05:43 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 12:05:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Amateur Radio (Ham Radio) training - Foundation
	licence and exam
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MuAbbqS5A67gYUTfuVXF=R3fWKjVLroWDcV1K0SZVzgg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello (try again!)

anybody interested in becoming licensed for Amateur Radio can do so at the
Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society in March.

Carmarthen is the only club known to have any training/exams available
anytime in the foreseeable future. Others may have it listed on their
websites but they are seriously lacking in trainers/examiners by all
accounts.)

Training starts on the 20th of January (Tuesday night - 7pm)

There is a fee for the exam that will be payable (cash or card) on the 20th
- it will be just under ?30 if memory serves correctly.


The training will continue on the following dates

Tuesday 3rd of Feb, 7pm
Tuesday 17th of Feb, 7pm
Tuesday 3rd March, 7pm

And the final training will take place on Saturday the 7th of March and the
exam itself will be on Sunday the 8th of March.

To do the training you will need the book

Foundation Now

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foundation-Licence-Now-Alan-Betts/dp/1872309801

you will need a copy of the Band Plan

https://thersgb.org/services/bandplans/doc/rsgb_band_plan_jan_2014.pdf

and a copy of the Terms And Conditions of the licence

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-licensees/amateur-terms.pdf

I downloaded the Errata for the book... that was a printable PDF - worth
having.

Anybody who understands V = IR and P = VI and a rudementary understanding
of electronics should be able to pass this easy multiple choice exam with
no sweat at all.

The club will probably ask you to join the club for at least a year (?10)
if you pass. We pay a quid at each meeting, this covers the rental of the
community centre for the meetings.

Please feel free to pass this on to anybody who you think might have an
interest in radio and construction of radios / antennae (remember Radio
Hams were the makers & hackers until fairly recently)

I hope to set up a Ham shack at the Hackerspace fairly soon, we have had
the offer of the permanent loan of Ham equipment by the Swansea Amateur
Radio Society.

Thanks

Emyr
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 14:17:50 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:17:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS201E67683898C89B52D54C2C6460@phx.gbl>

I ordered the esp-03 in the end

http://www.banggood.com/ESP8266-ESP-03-Remote-Serial-Port-WIFI-Transceiver-Wireless-Module-p-961244.html?p=JS3018075348201208! G

I figured it would be a good choice as it has more than two gpio and a rainsun ant rather the pcb track.


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:07/01/2015  12:08  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop </div><div>
</div>
yes... a VM might be another way... I have windows VM on my laptop but I
have yet to install anything on my desktop. In an ideal world I want the
same toolchain on both machines - so yes a VM would be a very good idea

 thanks for the tip

On 7 January 2015 at 11:59, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 11:17 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > I made this little breadboard adapter last night - something is wrong
> > somewhere as CoolTerm wan't talk the the ESP8266 yet... the red lights
> > up, everything is set to 3.3V so I should be cooking...
> >
> >
> > Looking at the toolchains most seem suited to Windoze or Debian (I use
> > Mac - not too dissimilar under the hood) but I am just a tiny bit lost
> > with all the instructions, I'm not very familiar with compiling
> > binaries
> >
> >
> > I might look at some of my old laptops and see if I can re-purpose one
> > for Debian, it wouldn't be a bad idea
>
> Run it in a VM instead ?
>
> istr theres a VirtualBox install for OSX
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan  7 14:53:44 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:53:44 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS201E67683898C89B52D54C2C6460@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS201E67683898C89B52D54C2C6460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Pm2aHjN4Px2KHYqmyyfRWDpjHQq4oEmeX65Q-4XXw1SQ@mail.gmail.com>

looks good - my initial tests were hampered by me assuming the wrong Serial
Baud rate - switched to 9600 and all works lovely

I was looking for devices to connect to either relays or sensors so 1 GPIO
was enough for each application. I guess if I order more I will get the
ones with the tin cans over the chips to reduce RFI about the place

Good luck there!

Emyr

On 7 January 2015 at 14:17, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I ordered the esp-03 in the end
>
>
> http://www.banggood.com/ESP8266-ESP-03-Remote-Serial-Port-WIFI-Transceiver-Wireless-Module-p-961244.html?p=JS3018075348201208!
> G
>
>  I figured it would be a good choice as it has more than two gpio and a
> rainsun ant rather the pcb track.
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris
> Date:07/01/2015 12:08 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
>
>  yes... a VM might be another way... I have windows VM on my laptop but I
> have yet to install anything on my desktop. In an ideal world I want the
> same toolchain on both machines - so yes a VM would be a very good idea
>
>  thanks for the tip
>
> On 7 January 2015 at 11:59, Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 11:17 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > I made this little breadboard adapter last night - something is wrong
> > somewhere as CoolTerm wan't talk the the ESP8266 yet... the red lights
> > up, everything is set to 3.3V so I should be cooking...
> >
> >
> > Looking at the toolchains most seem suited to Windoze or Debian (I use
> > Mac - not too dissimilar under the hood) but I am just a tiny bit lost
> > with all the instructions, I'm not very familiar with compiling
> > binaries
> >
> >
> > I might look at some of my old laptops and see if I can re-purpose one
> > for Debian, it wouldn't be a bad idea
>
> Run it in a VM instead ?
>
> istr theres a VirtualBox install for OSX
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Wed Jan  7 15:57:52 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:57:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS201E67683898C89B52D54C2C6460@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS201E67683898C89B52D54C2C6460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20150107155752.362ffec8@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:17:50 +0000
djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I ordered the esp-03 in the end
> 
> http://www.banggood.com/ESP8266-ESP-03-Remote-Serial-Port-WIFI-Transceiver-Wireless-Module-p-961244.html?p=JS3018075348201208! G
> 
> I figured it would be a good choice as it has more than two gpio and a rainsun ant rather the pcb track.

I was looking at the 03, as it seems to have the pins for the second SPI
brought ought as some of the GPIOs

Alan


From em at preseli.com  Thu Jan  8 11:46:09 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:46:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino - help required?
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Pj_Sf6SfcSUoNXF14Wt0BgA4+OepcKa10bkkPPuMq+mw@mail.gmail.com>

justin, would you like a body to help you tonight? I'm free and can pop
down and bring some spare bits and bobs, I can stay out of the way and
float and help anybody who is struggling

Em


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Jan  8 11:56:51 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:56:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino - help required?
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Pj_Sf6SfcSUoNXF14Wt0BgA4+OepcKa10bkkPPuMq+mw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7Pj_Sf6SfcSUoNXF14Wt0BgA4+OepcKa10bkkPPuMq+mw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1420718211.12428.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 11:46 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> justin, would you like a body to help you tonight? I'm free and can
> pop down and bring some spare bits and bobs, I can stay out of the way
> and float and help anybody who is struggling 

Help is always gratefully received.

There's not going to be anything new for people who have done this
course before, but anyone willing to lend a hand and help people is more
than welcome.

I have no idea how many are planning to turn up #shouldhavesoldtickets 
 




From em at preseli.com  Thu Jan  8 12:11:43 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:11:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino - help required?
In-Reply-To: <1420718211.12428.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CAGAFX7Pj_Sf6SfcSUoNXF14Wt0BgA4+OepcKa10bkkPPuMq+mw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1420718211.12428.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Nn5eU5Cga1e0gwtNNb0Q2wBCFTFJ5VmBfFgc-a0EWRjg@mail.gmail.com>

OK. I'll pop down.

See you later

Em

On Thursday, January 8, 2015, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 11:46 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > justin, would you like a body to help you tonight? I'm free and can
> > pop down and bring some spare bits and bobs, I can stay out of the way
> > and float and help anybody who is struggling
>
> Help is always gratefully received.
>
> There's not going to be anything new for people who have done this
> course before, but anyone willing to lend a hand and help people is more
> than welcome.
>
> I have no idea how many are planning to turn up #shouldhavesoldtickets
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Jan  8 13:32:11 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:32:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Esp8266 workshop
In-Reply-To: <20150107155752.362ffec8@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
References: <DUB402-EAS201E67683898C89B52D54C2C6460@phx.gbl>
	<20150107155752.362ffec8@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7O+7UxyBOMFwQTXAnodgxmaPSUg_m_G2d=6RuEoZE69Tw@mail.gmail.com>

I was asked last night about the range of my little 8pin ESP8266 with the
wiggly antenna.

Sat here on my desk near the window I can see the wifi of the office across
the junction. A distance of about 50m+ line of sight

Emyr
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From jon.j.lilley at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 07:47:43 2015
From: jon.j.lilley at gmail.com (jon lilley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Amateur Radio (Ham Radio) training -
 Foundation licence and exam
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MuAbbqS5A67gYUTfuVXF=R3fWKjVLroWDcV1K0SZVzgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MuAbbqS5A67gYUTfuVXF=R3fWKjVLroWDcV1K0SZVzgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHLFiFDH19bAVkRo0311Ht==9R0KJE88F4AHpzwS4GE2_Mfaag@mail.gmail.com>

Will the training/ exam be at Cwmduad?
I'd like to give it a go, but it's a bit far to trek. :(

I think I know most of the theory already as I did C&G radio & line
transmission exams many years ago, but I'd need to brush up on the rules &
regs. :)

Jon
 On 7 Jan 2015 12:13, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Hello (try again!)
>
> anybody interested in becoming licensed for Amateur Radio can do so at the
> Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society in March.
>
> Carmarthen is the only club known to have any training/exams available
> anytime in the foreseeable future. Others may have it listed on their
> websites but they are seriously lacking in trainers/examiners by all
> accounts.)
>
> Training starts on the 20th of January (Tuesday night - 7pm)
>
> There is a fee for the exam that will be payable (cash or card) on the
> 20th - it will be just under ?30 if memory serves correctly.
>
>
> The training will continue on the following dates
>
> Tuesday 3rd of Feb, 7pm
> Tuesday 17th of Feb, 7pm
> Tuesday 3rd March, 7pm
>
> And the final training will take place on Saturday the 7th of March and
> the exam itself will be on Sunday the 8th of March.
>
> To do the training you will need the book
>
> Foundation Now
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foundation-Licence-Now-Alan-Betts/dp/1872309801
>
> you will need a copy of the Band Plan
>
> https://thersgb.org/services/bandplans/doc/rsgb_band_plan_jan_2014.pdf
>
> and a copy of the Terms And Conditions of the licence
>
>
> http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-licensees/amateur-terms.pdf
>
> I downloaded the Errata for the book... that was a printable PDF - worth
> having.
>
> Anybody who understands V = IR and P = VI and a rudementary understanding
> of electronics should be able to pass this easy multiple choice exam with
> no sweat at all.
>
> The club will probably ask you to join the club for at least a year (?10)
> if you pass. We pay a quid at each meeting, this covers the rental of the
> community centre for the meetings.
>
> Please feel free to pass this on to anybody who you think might have an
> interest in radio and construction of radios / antennae (remember Radio
> Hams were the makers & hackers until fairly recently)
>
> I hope to set up a Ham shack at the Hackerspace fairly soon, we have had
> the offer of the permanent loan of Ham equipment by the Swansea Amateur
> Radio Society.
>
> Thanks
>
> Emyr
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jan 12 10:33:09 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:33:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Amateur Radio (Ham Radio) training -
 Foundation licence and exam
In-Reply-To: <CAHLFiFDH19bAVkRo0311Ht==9R0KJE88F4AHpzwS4GE2_Mfaag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MuAbbqS5A67gYUTfuVXF=R3fWKjVLroWDcV1K0SZVzgg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHLFiFDH19bAVkRo0311Ht==9R0KJE88F4AHpzwS4GE2_Mfaag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NK+_EPjmQrdUAHq874+im85TWW1jqx0gqiwmgxG9htQg@mail.gmail.com>

yes, that is a problem... the training and exam will be at CWMDUAD, in the
community centre.

They are the only club with an active training program that we know about
at the moment - and the reason we know, Trevor one of the trainers is the
RSGB chap who oversees exams at other clubs as a validator, so he knows
what is going on everywhere.

If you can get a train to Carmarthen (be there for 6:30pm) I could give you
a lift up to Cwmduad.

I understand there are others in Swansea who want to do the exam so with a
bit of luck if you can make the first one a lift might materialise in the
future. Tim will grab the train and I will take him back into Swansea after
the

To explain the Cwmduad idiocy - the club chairman is the chairman of the
Cwmduad Village Hall where the club meets - it was a temporary arrangement
that has lasted several years now. In fairness a few of the members schlep
down from Cardigan, others come up from Carmarthen. One comes from
Ammanford and I'm the one that travels the most, from Pontardawe.

Em

On 12 January 2015 at 07:47, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Will the training/ exam be at Cwmduad?
> I'd like to give it a go, but it's a bit far to trek. :(
>
> I think I know most of the theory already as I did C&G radio & line
> transmission exams many years ago, but I'd need to brush up on the rules &
> regs. :)
>
> Jon
>  On 7 Jan 2015 12:13, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello (try again!)
>>
>> anybody interested in becoming licensed for Amateur Radio can do so at
>> the Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society in March.
>>
>> Carmarthen is the only club known to have any training/exams available
>> anytime in the foreseeable future. Others may have it listed on their
>> websites but they are seriously lacking in trainers/examiners by all
>> accounts.)
>>
>> Training starts on the 20th of January (Tuesday night - 7pm)
>>
>> There is a fee for the exam that will be payable (cash or card) on the
>> 20th - it will be just under ?30 if memory serves correctly.
>>
>>
>> The training will continue on the following dates
>>
>> Tuesday 3rd of Feb, 7pm
>> Tuesday 17th of Feb, 7pm
>> Tuesday 3rd March, 7pm
>>
>> And the final training will take place on Saturday the 7th of March and
>> the exam itself will be on Sunday the 8th of March.
>>
>> To do the training you will need the book
>>
>> Foundation Now
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foundation-Licence-Now-Alan-Betts/dp/1872309801
>>
>> you will need a copy of the Band Plan
>>
>> https://thersgb.org/services/bandplans/doc/rsgb_band_plan_jan_2014.pdf
>>
>> and a copy of the Terms And Conditions of the licence
>>
>>
>> http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-licensees/amateur-terms.pdf
>>
>> I downloaded the Errata for the book... that was a printable PDF - worth
>> having.
>>
>> Anybody who understands V = IR and P = VI and a rudementary understanding
>> of electronics should be able to pass this easy multiple choice exam with
>> no sweat at all.
>>
>> The club will probably ask you to join the club for at least a year (?10)
>> if you pass. We pay a quid at each meeting, this covers the rental of the
>> community centre for the meetings.
>>
>> Please feel free to pass this on to anybody who you think might have an
>> interest in radio and construction of radios / antennae (remember Radio
>> Hams were the makers & hackers until fairly recently)
>>
>> I hope to set up a Ham shack at the Hackerspace fairly soon, we have had
>> the offer of the permanent loan of Ham equipment by the Swansea Amateur
>> Radio Society.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jan 13 13:02:49 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 13:02:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] AGM 2015-02-26
Message-ID: <1421154169.2221.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

Announcing the 2015 Annual General Meeting
7pm Thu 26th February 2015

This is an opportunity for all members to discuss and vote on topics
that affect the group as a whole, to hear how we have been performing as
a company, as well as to vote for the directors for the coming year.

As this is our first AGM all of the directors are up for re-election,
anyone else that wishes to stand for election should complete the form
on the website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/AGM2015

If you have any items you would like on the agenda please let us know.

Full details, timescales, and the agenda as it develops are on the
website.

Please can people reserve a ticket for the event so that we have ideas
on numbers in case we need to book a larger room. non-members are
welcome to observe but cannot vote. 
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/swansea-hackspace-agm-tickets-15300407932




From em at preseli.com  Tue Jan 13 17:18:40 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:18:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PNcL4djn4oAGPEEQs4iBDSDLduV4a9snZWfwiKs=TMEw@mail.gmail.com>

Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.

Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
thought I would produce a quick digest

*If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*

a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
interface with each other.

e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'

It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.

e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.

It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights at
Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.

I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of my
ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
about and away from my desk.

IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)

*ESP8266 - programming*

there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.

http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/

There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA

Documentation is sparse and I might write a  short dummy guide for myself
when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.

So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
turn an LED on and off via GPIO2

this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
something.

Still masses more to learn!

I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe into
PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.

I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity sensor to
turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a ESP to add
notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.

Emyr

PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive from
British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that didn't
charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months when you
do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of being more
in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/

It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed the
old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router... dropped
the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time switch,
attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one, turned
the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged in -
whole process took less than 10 mins.

Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty, it
would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Jan 13 19:52:54 2015
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:52:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7PNcL4djn4oAGPEEQs4iBDSDLduV4a9snZWfwiKs=TMEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7PNcL4djn4oAGPEEQs4iBDSDLduV4a9snZWfwiKs=TMEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4Sxq7qz277t36Cv27j7kAKOSGD1PXMKvXR8YREYvacNDw@mail.gmail.com>

So the question then is, is hive (or the link between it and the interwebs)
hackable?  should be easy enough to find out with wireshark :)

Sounds like a job for a PI DNS server, with the advantage that you can also
control other bits and bobs too :)

G

On 13 January 2015 at 17:18, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.
>
> Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
> thought I would produce a quick digest
>
> *If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*
>
> a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
> interface with each other.
>
> e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
> mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'
>
> It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.
>
> e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.
>
> It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights at
> Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.
>
> I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of my
> ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
> about and away from my desk.
>
> IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
> guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
> recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)
>
> *ESP8266 - programming*
>
> there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.
>
> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/
>
> There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
> flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA
>
> Documentation is sparse and I might write a  short dummy guide for myself
> when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.
>
> So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
> turn an LED on and off via GPIO2
>
> this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
> something.
>
> Still masses more to learn!
>
> I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe into
> PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.
>
> I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity sensor
> to turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a ESP to
> add notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.
>
> Emyr
>
> PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive from
> British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that didn't
> charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months when you
> do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of being more
> in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/
>
> It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed the
> old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router... dropped
> the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time switch,
> attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one, turned
> the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged in -
> whole process took less than 10 mins.
>
> Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty, it
> would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jan 13 20:00:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:00:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
In-Reply-To: <CAJqsN4Sxq7qz277t36Cv27j7kAKOSGD1PXMKvXR8YREYvacNDw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7PNcL4djn4oAGPEEQs4iBDSDLduV4a9snZWfwiKs=TMEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4Sxq7qz277t36Cv27j7kAKOSGD1PXMKvXR8YREYvacNDw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NYBhEkR31csooJBxKAxE8YeFYG58McmakGn7bN=bxFfw@mail.gmail.com>

I like your thinking there Graham

There have been lots of complaints about it not working, I've only
experienced one outage and I am not sure if it was my broadband or their
servers... everything in my flat had a green light and there were no
warnings so maybe it was something else

just a shame they haven't hooked it up to IFTTT like their competitors



On 13 January 2015 at 19:52, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> So the question then is, is hive (or the link between it and the
> interwebs) hackable?  should be easy enough to find out with wireshark :)
>
> Sounds like a job for a PI DNS server, with the advantage that you can
> also control other bits and bobs too :)
>
> G
>
> On 13 January 2015 at 17:18, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.
>>
>> Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
>> thought I would produce a quick digest
>>
>> *If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*
>>
>> a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
>> interface with each other.
>>
>> e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
>> mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'
>>
>> It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.
>>
>> e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.
>>
>> It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights
>> at Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.
>>
>> I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of my
>> ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
>> about and away from my desk.
>>
>> IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
>> guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
>> recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)
>>
>> *ESP8266 - programming*
>>
>> there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.
>>
>> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/
>>
>> There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
>> flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA
>>
>> Documentation is sparse and I might write a  short dummy guide for myself
>> when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.
>>
>> So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
>> turn an LED on and off via GPIO2
>>
>> this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
>> something.
>>
>> Still masses more to learn!
>>
>> I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe into
>> PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.
>>
>> I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity sensor
>> to turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a ESP to
>> add notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive
>> from British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that
>> didn't charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months
>> when you do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of
>> being more in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/
>>
>> It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed the
>> old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router... dropped
>> the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time switch,
>> attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one, turned
>> the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged in -
>> whole process took less than 10 mins.
>>
>> Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty,
>> it would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
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From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Tue Jan 13 20:07:02 2015
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:07:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NYBhEkR31csooJBxKAxE8YeFYG58McmakGn7bN=bxFfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7PNcL4djn4oAGPEEQs4iBDSDLduV4a9snZWfwiKs=TMEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJqsN4Sxq7qz277t36Cv27j7kAKOSGD1PXMKvXR8YREYvacNDw@mail.gmail.com>
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Dont know if you will remember me talking a few weeks back about the
weather station, same thing - incompatible with everything else, not even a
local display. everything had to be viewed on there app, and when the site
went down I never got data.  Well not any more :)

On 13 January 2015 at 20:00, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I like your thinking there Graham
>
> There have been lots of complaints about it not working, I've only
> experienced one outage and I am not sure if it was my broadband or their
> servers... everything in my flat had a green light and there were no
> warnings so maybe it was something else
>
> just a shame they haven't hooked it up to IFTTT like their competitors
>
>
>
> On 13 January 2015 at 19:52, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So the question then is, is hive (or the link between it and the
>> interwebs) hackable?  should be easy enough to find out with wireshark :)
>>
>> Sounds like a job for a PI DNS server, with the advantage that you can
>> also control other bits and bobs too :)
>>
>> G
>>
>> On 13 January 2015 at 17:18, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.
>>>
>>> Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
>>> thought I would produce a quick digest
>>>
>>> *If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*
>>>
>>> a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
>>> interface with each other.
>>>
>>> e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
>>> mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'
>>>
>>> It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.
>>>
>>> e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.
>>>
>>> It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights
>>> at Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.
>>>
>>> I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of
>>> my ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
>>> about and away from my desk.
>>>
>>> IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
>>> guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
>>> recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)
>>>
>>> *ESP8266 - programming*
>>>
>>> there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.
>>>
>>> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/
>>>
>>> There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
>>> flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA
>>>
>>> Documentation is sparse and I might write a  short dummy guide for
>>> myself when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.
>>>
>>> So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
>>> turn an LED on and off via GPIO2
>>>
>>> this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Still masses more to learn!
>>>
>>> I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe into
>>> PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.
>>>
>>> I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity sensor
>>> to turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a ESP to
>>> add notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.
>>>
>>> Emyr
>>>
>>> PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive
>>> from British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that
>>> didn't charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months
>>> when you do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of
>>> being more in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/
>>>
>>> It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed
>>> the old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router...
>>> dropped the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time
>>> switch, attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one,
>>> turned the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged
>>> in - whole process took less than 10 mins.
>>>
>>> Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty,
>>> it would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>>
>>
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jan 13 20:19:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:19:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
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	<CAJqsN4Sxq7qz277t36Cv27j7kAKOSGD1PXMKvXR8YREYvacNDw@mail.gmail.com>
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yes I remember it well... how could I forget?

Glad you got it sorted!

this is one of the things I love about the group and the space - there is
such a diverse range of interests and talents and I've learnt so much
already.

Thank you all

On 13 January 2015 at 20:07, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Dont know if you will remember me talking a few weeks back about the
> weather station, same thing - incompatible with everything else, not even a
> local display. everything had to be viewed on there app, and when the site
> went down I never got data.  Well not any more :)
>
> On 13 January 2015 at 20:00, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I like your thinking there Graham
>>
>> There have been lots of complaints about it not working, I've only
>> experienced one outage and I am not sure if it was my broadband or their
>> servers... everything in my flat had a green light and there were no
>> warnings so maybe it was something else
>>
>> just a shame they haven't hooked it up to IFTTT like their competitors
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 January 2015 at 19:52, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So the question then is, is hive (or the link between it and the
>>> interwebs) hackable?  should be easy enough to find out with wireshark :)
>>>
>>> Sounds like a job for a PI DNS server, with the advantage that you can
>>> also control other bits and bobs too :)
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On 13 January 2015 at 17:18, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.
>>>>
>>>> Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
>>>> thought I would produce a quick digest
>>>>
>>>> *If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*
>>>>
>>>> a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
>>>> interface with each other.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
>>>> mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'
>>>>
>>>> It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.
>>>>
>>>> It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights
>>>> at Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.
>>>>
>>>> I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of
>>>> my ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
>>>> about and away from my desk.
>>>>
>>>> IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
>>>> guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
>>>> recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)
>>>>
>>>> *ESP8266 - programming*
>>>>
>>>> there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.
>>>>
>>>> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/
>>>>
>>>> There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
>>>> flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA
>>>>
>>>> Documentation is sparse and I might write a  short dummy guide for
>>>> myself when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.
>>>>
>>>> So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
>>>> turn an LED on and off via GPIO2
>>>>
>>>> this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>> Still masses more to learn!
>>>>
>>>> I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe
>>>> into PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.
>>>>
>>>> I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity
>>>> sensor to turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a
>>>> ESP to add notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.
>>>>
>>>> Emyr
>>>>
>>>> PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive
>>>> from British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that
>>>> didn't charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months
>>>> when you do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of
>>>> being more in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/
>>>>
>>>> It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed
>>>> the old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router...
>>>> dropped the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time
>>>> switch, attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one,
>>>> turned the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged
>>>> in - whole process took less than 10 mins.
>>>>
>>>> Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty,
>>>> it would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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From debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jan 14 10:39:25 2015
From: debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk (Debi Withers)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:39:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:07:02 +0000
From: Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
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Dont know if you will remember me talking a few weeks back about the
weather station, same thing - incompatible with everything else, not even a
local display. everything had to be viewed on there app, and when the site
went down I never got data.? Well not any more :)

On 13 January 2015 at 20:00, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I like your thinking there Graham
>
> There have been lots of complaints about it not working, I've only
> experienced one outage and I am not sure if it was my broadband or their
> servers... everything in my flat had a green light and there were no
> warnings so maybe it was something else
>
> just a shame they haven't hooked it up to IFTTT like their competitors
>
>
>
> On 13 January 2015 at 19:52, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So the question then is, is hive (or the link between it and the
>> interwebs) hackable?? should be easy enough to find out with wireshark :)
>>
>> Sounds like a job for a PI DNS server, with the advantage that you can
>> also control other bits and bobs too :)
>>
>> G
>>
>> On 13 January 2015 at 17:18, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.
>>>
>>> Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
>>> thought I would produce a quick digest
>>>
>>> *If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*
>>>
>>> a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
>>> interface with each other.
>>>
>>> e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
>>> mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'
>>>
>>> It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.
>>>
>>> e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.
>>>
>>> It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights
>>> at Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.
>>>
>>> I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of
>>> my ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
>>> about and away from my desk.
>>>
>>> IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
>>> guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
>>> recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)
>>>
>>> *ESP8266 - programming*
>>>
>>> there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.
>>>
>>> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/
>>>
>>> There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
>>> flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA
>>>
>>> Documentation is sparse and I might write a? short dummy guide for
>>> myself when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.
>>>
>>> So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
>>> turn an LED on and off via GPIO2
>>>
>>> this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Still masses more to learn!
>>>
>>> I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe into
>>> PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.
>>>
>>> I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity sensor
>>> to turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a ESP to
>>> add notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.
>>>
>>> Emyr
>>>
>>> PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive
>>> from British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that
>>> didn't charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months
>>> when you do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of
>>> being more in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/
>>>
>>> It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed
>>> the old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router...
>>> dropped the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time
>>> switch, attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one,
>>> turned the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged
>>> in - whole process took less than 10 mins.
>>>
>>> Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty,
>>> it would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:19:21 +0000
From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Last night - ESP and other ramblings
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yes I remember it well... how could I forget?

Glad you got it sorted!

this is one of the things I love about the group and the space - there is
such a diverse range of interests and talents and I've learnt so much
already.

Thank you all

On 13 January 2015 at 20:07, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Dont know if you will remember me talking a few weeks back about the
> weather station, same thing - incompatible with everything else, not even a
> local display. everything had to be viewed on there app, and when the site
> went down I never got data.? Well not any more :)
>
> On 13 January 2015 at 20:00, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I like your thinking there Graham
>>
>> There have been lots of complaints about it not working, I've only
>> experienced one outage and I am not sure if it was my broadband or their
>> servers... everything in my flat had a green light and there were no
>> warnings so maybe it was something else
>>
>> just a shame they haven't hooked it up to IFTTT like their competitors
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 January 2015 at 19:52, Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So the question then is, is hive (or the link between it and the
>>> interwebs) hackable?? should be easy enough to find out with wireshark :)
>>>
>>> Sounds like a job for a PI DNS server, with the advantage that you can
>>> also control other bits and bobs too :)
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On 13 January 2015 at 17:18, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Had quite a chat and put a lot of things in their places last night.
>>>>
>>>> Some people have been in touch asking for links to various things so I
>>>> thought I would produce a quick digest
>>>>
>>>> *If This Then That* - *IFTTT.com*
>>>>
>>>> a service that allows devices (iOS/Android) / switches / lights to
>>>> interface with each other.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. if snowing, turn on heating or if raining tomorrow send alert to
>>>> mobile device 'remember your brolly tomorrow'
>>>>
>>>> It also allows you to set up geofencing with your mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. if distance from home greater than 1 mile, turn off heating.
>>>>
>>>> It works with the WeMo switch for instance, so you could turn on lights
>>>> at Dusk... Turn them off at a pre-determined time.
>>>>
>>>> I have an iOS notification set up for a RSS feed that I have on one of
>>>> my ecommerce website so I can monitor what is going on even if I am out and
>>>> about and away from my desk.
>>>>
>>>> IFTTT.com is currently free - I hear there are plans to charge - I am
>>>> guessing they will charge for more real time actions. At the moment my
>>>> recipes seem to run every 20 mins (which is fine for me)
>>>>
>>>> *ESP8266 - programming*
>>>>
>>>> there was an article on Hackaday a few days ago.
>>>>
>>>> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/10/flashing-the-esp8266-in-windows/
>>>>
>>>> There is a new windows app that allows you to quickly download the ESP
>>>> flasher, the NodeMCU firmware and install / run LUA
>>>>
>>>> Documentation is sparse and I might write a? short dummy guide for
>>>> myself when I flash my next chip - If I do this I will share it with you.
>>>>
>>>> So far I have managed to get it to read a switch connected to GPIO0 and
>>>> turn an LED on and off via GPIO2
>>>>
>>>> this is a fairly easy way into hacking the ESP8266 and making it do
>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>> Still masses more to learn!
>>>>
>>>> I am looking to install them into some RF remote switches and maybe
>>>> into PIR detectors along with temp / humidity sensors.
>>>>
>>>> I am planning to upgrade my tumble drier with a Temp and Humidity
>>>> sensor to turn it off (via a relay) when my clothes are dry - I may add a
>>>> ESP to add notification - if at all possible via IFTTT to my mobile.
>>>>
>>>> Emyr
>>>>
>>>> PS oh yes.. we got onto the home heating thermostat. I opted for Hive
>>>> from British Gas - mostly because their system was one of the few that
>>>> didn't charge a monthly fee - basically you pay a fee even on the months
>>>> when you do not heat your home, so you would end up losing the benefit of
>>>> being more in control of your energy use! https://www.hivehome.com/
>>>>
>>>> It was a cinch to install - I popped off the old time switch, removed
>>>> the old thermostat (wireless). Plugged in the 'hub' to the router...
>>>> dropped the boiler switch onto the old plate belonging to the old time
>>>> switch, attached the thermostat to the screw holes of the old wireless one,
>>>> turned the boiler back on... and installed the app on my phone and logged
>>>> in - whole process took less than 10 mins.
>>>>
>>>> Even though NEST is compatible with IFTTT, Hive isn't which is a pitty,
>>>> it would have been cool to have been able to program in a few overrides.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan 14 11:08:05 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:08:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <1248651976.890127.1421231965626.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.1588.1421180365.9934.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
	<1248651976.890127.1421231965626.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MBmEyaO==E4jxxf=ogGnH4tHP4wSiqpQ+VyQD1A2Me4w@mail.gmail.com>

Mondays are open to all, members and non-members :-)

look forward to meeting you

all the best

Emyr

On 14 January 2015 at 10:39, Debi Withers <debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> hi everyone,
>
> am planning to come to Swansea next Monday evening for the drop in - I
> wanted to check that it was an ok for folks for me to do so, and in
> particular for in-person advice on transmission circuit idea previously
> discussed on this list.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> debi
>
> www.debi-rah.net
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jan 14 11:36:19 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:36:19 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <1248651976.890127.1421231965626.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.1588.1421180365.9934.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
	<1248651976.890127.1421231965626.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11138.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1421235379.2226.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 10:39 +0000, Debi Withers wrote:
> am planning to come to Swansea next Monday evening for the drop in - I
> wanted to check that it was an ok for folks for me to do so, and in
> particular for in-person advice on transmission circuit idea
> previously discussed on this list. 

Mondays are our Open night, random drop ins are actively encouraged,
and discussion of peoples ideas and schemes is almost unavoidable :)

I presume you've found the directions and instructions on finding us?





From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Wed Jan 14 19:30:42 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:30:42 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Here's a new toy we can't quite afford but
	looks awesome 8)
Message-ID: <20150114193042.503e51fd@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

https://medium.com/the-letters/3d-printed-drones-are-finally-here-c76811cf7ee4




From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Jan 15 11:15:48 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:15:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Is the 3d Printer working again?
Message-ID: <54B7A164.5060200@aurinia.co.uk>

Hi everybody,

I know there was a problem with the 3d printer. Is it working now?

Neil


From eclipse at sucs.org  Thu Jan 15 11:17:43 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:17:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Is the 3d Printer working again?
In-Reply-To: <54B7A164.5060200@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <54B7A164.5060200@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <54B7A1D7.9080208@sucs.org>

No, not yet, we are taking this opportunity to do some of the upgrades.

Tim
On 15/01/2015 11:15, Neil Jones wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I know there was a problem with the 3d printer. Is it working now?
>
> Neil
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 16 18:03:05 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 18:03:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laptop tomorrow
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS1676517021548F89562D777C64F0@phx.gbl>

Hey guys, been having difficulties with getting the laptop running this week, if it can't sort it out after work ?tonight I have a smallish desktop, I've seen monitors there Re they VGA?


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From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan 16 19:49:46 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:49:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laptop tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS1676517021548F89562D777C64F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS1676517021548F89562D777C64F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P4iHaFDz8odgnwpx8cq09AO16iJLEiij+P91OtskwQYw@mail.gmail.com>

there are VGA monitors and cables there

Emyr

On 16 January 2015 at 18:03, djdavies83 <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys, been having difficulties with getting the laptop running this
> week, if it can't sort it out after work  tonight I have a smallish
> desktop, I've seen monitors there Re they VGA?
>
>
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From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 08:54:27 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 08:54:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights social,
	help with CNC machine from weekends PCB design
Message-ID: <CAERuT1-A-u8QfDde2f_X2amosrmt1icHC+ru-Os_CsChQnfBVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

I am hoping to get my PCB board that we design on the weekend cut out tonight.

Will anyone be in earlier?

Thanks
David


From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Mon Jan 19 11:19:34 2015
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (Thomas Lake)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:19:34 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights social,
 help with CNC machine from weekends PCB design
In-Reply-To: <CAERuT1-A-u8QfDde2f_X2amosrmt1icHC+ru-Os_CsChQnfBVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAERuT1-A-u8QfDde2f_X2amosrmt1icHC+ru-Os_CsChQnfBVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54BCE846.2000007@sucs.org>

On 19/01/15 08:54, David Rankin wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am hoping to get my PCB board that we design on the weekend cut out tonight.
>
> Will anyone be in earlier?

I can be. How much earlier were you planning?

- Tom


From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 12:35:17 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:35:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 22
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1421668801.3194.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
References: <mailman.1.1421668801.3194.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAERuT1_fhRB5MXP+Sw_W5erEKqy7RHxcwct9CWW8TBo2tbCg1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tom,

I'll try get there for 6 or just after?
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I am hoping to get my PCB board that we design on the weekend cut out
> tonight.
>
> Will anyone be in earlier?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:19:34 +0000
> From: Thomas Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org>
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
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>         machine from weekends PCB design
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> On 19/01/15 08:54, David Rankin wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I am hoping to get my PCB board that we design on the weekend cut out
> tonight.
> >
> > Will anyone be in earlier?
>
> I can be. How much earlier were you planning?
>
> - Tom
>
>
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From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Mon Jan 19 13:03:04 2015
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (Thomas Lake)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:03:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace Digest, Vol 25, Issue 22
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References: <mailman.1.1421668801.3194.hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
	<CAERuT1_fhRB5MXP+Sw_W5erEKqy7RHxcwct9CWW8TBo2tbCg1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54BD0088.4010707@sucs.org>



On 19/01/15 12:35, David Rankin wrote:
> I'll try get there for 6 or just after?
That will be fine. See you at six.

Hopefully see the rest of you at the social/open evening,

- Tom


From debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 09:52:41 2015
From: debiwithers at yahoo.co.uk (Debi Withers)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:52:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] thankyou
Message-ID: <528727709.4075567.1421747561182.JavaMail.yahoo@jws11143.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Dear Swansea Hackspacers
just a quick note to say thank you again for being so helpful last night, I truly appreciate it.?
Am going to go and get my ideas together a bit more and no doubt I will be back.?
I currently live and work here, so if any of you wanted to organise a rural hack event, consider it a home...
create-ahh.org.uk?
thanks again -?
debi?www.debi-rah.net

Publishing -?http://www.hammeronpress.net?
Create-Ahh - http://create-ahh.org.ukPublic History -?http://feministarchivesouth.org.uk
Great Bear Analogue & Digital Media Tape Blog-?http://www.thegreatbear.net/blog/
https://twitter.com/deborahmwithers
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jan 20 15:03:52 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:03:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] what a lovely hack - morse keyer
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7N-v4jTWPXn7dwpVeDCAqCX=9sBToppjtaoK5oQM6x=VQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://hackaday.com/2015/01/20/a-wireless-web-connected-morse-code-keyer/

Em

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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 21 13:48:35 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:48:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Fwd: Calling python and arduino wizards
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS1476CCBD8EECC2E62A99A1FC6480@phx.gbl>

Sorry, had the wrong out email address tagged.?

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From: robovac
Date:21/01/2015 13:46 (GMT+00:00)
To: hackspace
Subject: Calling python and arduino wizards

How difficult would it be to port flatcam to android or run its scripts in an android python app?


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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 13:53:36 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:53:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hack the lab: Bringing scientists and makers
	together
Message-ID: <5500C716-1A2B-485F-8699-8F48E68F07C3@gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

I was wondering whether you would be interested in coming to a ?Hack the Lab? event at the hackspace during the summer (tentatively 24-27 July)? It will be part of a global event organised by the Open Knowledge Foundation, where multiple sites all build open source laboratory equipment during one weekend.

Some ideas for projects include PCR machines (e.g. http://openpcr.org/ <http://openpcr.org/>, a thermocycler for DNA detection and sequencing), syringe pumps (maybe you?ve seen the project I?m working on at http://www.openpump.org <http://www.openpump.org/>), microscopes, incubators, centrifuges, spectroscopes and bioreactors. 

I?m hoping to get some scientists from the university involved as well, but if you (or someone you know) may be interested, please let me know!

Cheers,
Gerrit

PS: If you?re wondering why this is a good idea, here?s a list from OKFN:
	? Showcase OSHW for science to researchers and other end-users e.g. science educators, citizen/civic scientists.
	? Encourage researchers into their local maker spaces and FabLabs, building contacts and connections.
	? Encourage makers to use their skills to develop hardware for science.
	? Spark conversations around the needs of both makers and researchers, including the requirement for robust and reproducible designs.
	? Prototype interesting and novel tools or build existing ones.
	? Strengthen international links and build connections through concurrent, linked events.
	? Bring about more frequent interactions and similar meetings in the future.
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jan 21 14:05:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:05:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Hack the lab: Bringing scientists and
	makers together
In-Reply-To: <5500C716-1A2B-485F-8699-8F48E68F07C3@gmail.com>
References: <5500C716-1A2B-485F-8699-8F48E68F07C3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NTwVT0OfEvYw1qp9usHS797ZPGkFv5HPNwy8DwQPrwDA@mail.gmail.com>

sound fascinating

On 21 January 2015 at 13:53, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I was wondering whether you would be interested in coming to a ?Hack the
> Lab? event at the hackspace during the summer (tentatively 24-27 July)? It
> will be part of a global event organised by the Open Knowledge Foundation,
> where multiple sites all build open source laboratory equipment during one
> weekend.
>
> Some ideas for projects include PCR machines (e.g. http://openpcr.org/, a
> thermocycler for DNA detection and sequencing), syringe pumps (maybe you?ve
> seen the project I?m working on at http://www.openpump.org), microscopes,
> incubators, centrifuges, spectroscopes and bioreactors.
>
> I?m hoping to get some scientists from the university involved as well,
> but if you (or someone you know) may be interested, please let me know!
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
> PS: If you?re wondering why this is a good idea, here?s a list from OKFN:
> ? Showcase OSHW for science to researchers and other end-users e.g.
> science educators, citizen/civic scientists.
> ? Encourage researchers into their local maker spaces and FabLabs,
> building contacts and connections.
> ? Encourage makers to use their skills to develop hardware for science.
> ? Spark conversations around the needs of both makers and researchers,
> including the requirement for robust and reproducible designs.
> ? Prototype interesting and novel tools or build existing ones.
> ? Strengthen international links and build connections through concurrent,
> linked events.
> ? Bring about more frequent interactions and similar meetings in the
> future.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Jan 22 14:04:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:04:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Amateur Radio (Ham Radio) training -
 Foundation licence and exam
In-Reply-To: <CAHLFiFDH19bAVkRo0311Ht==9R0KJE88F4AHpzwS4GE2_Mfaag@mail.gmail.com>
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Jon (and anybody else who is interested)

Hi there - Tim and I went to Cwmduad on Tuesday and we both signed up for
our respective amateur radio exams.

The closing date for enrolling for the Foundation would be on Tuesday the
3rd of Feb.

We will probably do the same as last time. I will drive down from
Pontardawe, and then collect Tim from Carmarthen train station (18:30 train
from Swansea), and continue in my car up to Cwmduad. I gave Tim a lift home
to Swansea avoiding having to find a train home.

You will need to attend the club if you want to do the exam as there are
practical exercises to complete. You have to do an appreciation of morse
and you need to perform a QSO (a contact) using a radio.

If you can do the same, get a train to Carmarthen you can hop in my car
with us. Only three Tuesdays and one weekend to go to complete the
training/exam.

vy 73 de Emyr MW6EWM

On 12 January 2015 at 07:47, jon lilley <jon.j.lilley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Will the training/ exam be at Cwmduad?
> I'd like to give it a go, but it's a bit far to trek. :(
>
> I think I know most of the theory already as I did C&G radio & line
> transmission exams many years ago, but I'd need to brush up on the rules &
> regs. :)
>
> Jon
>  On 7 Jan 2015 12:13, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello (try again!)
>>
>> anybody interested in becoming licensed for Amateur Radio can do so at
>> the Carmarthen Amateur Radio Society in March.
>>
>> Carmarthen is the only club known to have any training/exams available
>> anytime in the foreseeable future. Others may have it listed on their
>> websites but they are seriously lacking in trainers/examiners by all
>> accounts.)
>>
>> Training starts on the 20th of January (Tuesday night - 7pm)
>>
>> There is a fee for the exam that will be payable (cash or card) on the
>> 20th - it will be just under ?30 if memory serves correctly.
>>
>>
>> The training will continue on the following dates
>>
>> Tuesday 3rd of Feb, 7pm
>> Tuesday 17th of Feb, 7pm
>> Tuesday 3rd March, 7pm
>>
>> And the final training will take place on Saturday the 7th of March and
>> the exam itself will be on Sunday the 8th of March.
>>
>> To do the training you will need the book
>>
>> Foundation Now
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foundation-Licence-Now-Alan-Betts/dp/1872309801
>>
>> you will need a copy of the Band Plan
>>
>> https://thersgb.org/services/bandplans/doc/rsgb_band_plan_jan_2014.pdf
>>
>> and a copy of the Terms And Conditions of the licence
>>
>>
>> http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-licensees/amateur-terms.pdf
>>
>> I downloaded the Errata for the book... that was a printable PDF - worth
>> having.
>>
>> Anybody who understands V = IR and P = VI and a rudementary understanding
>> of electronics should be able to pass this easy multiple choice exam with
>> no sweat at all.
>>
>> The club will probably ask you to join the club for at least a year (?10)
>> if you pass. We pay a quid at each meeting, this covers the rental of the
>> community centre for the meetings.
>>
>> Please feel free to pass this on to anybody who you think might have an
>> interest in radio and construction of radios / antennae (remember Radio
>> Hams were the makers & hackers until fairly recently)
>>
>> I hope to set up a Ham shack at the Hackerspace fairly soon, we have had
>> the offer of the permanent loan of Ham equipment by the Swansea Amateur
>> Radio Society.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
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From hello at spark.io  Wed Jan 21 17:23:19 2015
From: hello at spark.io (The Spark Team)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 04:23:19 +1100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Spark + IFTTT = Internet Button
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Our IFTTT integration is live, and we've launched a new product: The Internet Button!   No Images?  Click here http://spark.cmail2.com/t/t-e-trurthy-thvdtkhh-h/                         Spark + IFTTT = Internet Button

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From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan 23 20:28:49 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:28:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MtGECaVD+O7rfkk9tumv8NAHHcHqxvuUXuHaT=Sz9FVA@mail.gmail.com>

calling Linux gurus!

I have my Chip Shop system working almost as I want it... but...

I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected that the
browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed for a certain
period of time, it would close the browser and re-open it

I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it, but I
can not for the life of me find the example again.

for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if chromium
has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.

currently I am using a very simple

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">

to reload the page,

I would value advice. Thanks

Emyr
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Fri Jan 23 21:36:58 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:36:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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On 23/01/15 20:28, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if 
> chromium has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.

I am assuming here that refreshing means that the page is reloaded.

If then everytime the page is reloaded you get it to run a CGI script 
that is embedded in it.
This CGI script writes the time away to a file.
You then have a separate cron job that examines that file periodically 
and sees if it has been updated within the requisite time period. If it 
hasn't it kills the chromium process and restarts another one.

Neil
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Jan 23 21:41:25 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:41:25 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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References: <CAGAFX7MtGECaVD+O7rfkk9tumv8NAHHcHqxvuUXuHaT=Sz9FVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1422049285.25863.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 20:28 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:

> I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected
> that the browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed
> for a certain period of time, it would close the browser and re-open
> it
> 
> 
> I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it,
> but I can not for the life of me find the example again.
> 
> 
> for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if
> chromium has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.
> 
> 
> currently I am using a very simple 
> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">
> to reload the page,
> I would value advice. Thanks

If there is a webserver on the pi have some javascript polling a simple
cgi script (a bash script would do) via ajax, so it isnt disturbing the
main page.

its easy enough to check that a process is still running from a shell
script, but thats no indication that the page involved is still
running/reloading. 

Whilst there may be some cache and status files that belong to the
browser, i dont imagine that it would be a terribly reliable indication
of anything.

as an aside, those kind of page reloads are awefully klunky and
disruptive, if you need any guidance on ajax, jquery, and other more
modern stuff I or one of the others will gladly help i'm sure.





From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan 23 21:54:44 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:54:44 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
In-Reply-To: <1422049285.25863.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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yessss.... ajax - I was hoping to avoid ajax

Just as I pushed the send button on my initial email JS and AJAX came to my
mind.

the project started off easy, I was going to just supply JPEGs on a memory
stick plugged into the tellies

Then he said about turning things on and off... changing prices on a weekly
basis, and then wanting it controlled from his ipad

that is when it became a client server setup

that was the point I should have jacked the price up significantly to push
him back to keeping it simple, but I am a sucker for a challenge.

It is all databased so AJAX isn't a problem

I have really optimised all the files so a refresh isn't at all bad, the
nice HD background is the slowest thing loading.

what is scary though is if it loses connection to the server and the
customers don't have a menu to look at. There a JS solution would be much
better as it could cache data until it gets a new connection

I had thought of doing a cron job to detect if it had lost the server
connection, and if so it would simply pipe a pre-defined screen capture to
/dev/fb0



On 23 January 2015 at 21:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 20:28 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> > I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected
> > that the browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed
> > for a certain period of time, it would close the browser and re-open
> > it
> >
> >
> > I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it,
> > but I can not for the life of me find the example again.
> >
> >
> > for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if
> > chromium has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.
> >
> >
> > currently I am using a very simple
> > <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">
> > to reload the page,
> > I would value advice. Thanks
>
> If there is a webserver on the pi have some javascript polling a simple
> cgi script (a bash script would do) via ajax, so it isnt disturbing the
> main page.
>
> its easy enough to check that a process is still running from a shell
> script, but thats no indication that the page involved is still
> running/reloading.
>
> Whilst there may be some cache and status files that belong to the
> browser, i dont imagine that it would be a terribly reliable indication
> of anything.
>
> as an aside, those kind of page reloads are awefully klunky and
> disruptive, if you need any guidance on ajax, jquery, and other more
> modern stuff I or one of the others will gladly help i'm sure.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Jan 23 22:15:48 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:15:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 21:54 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> yessss.... ajax - I was hoping to avoid ajax
> 
<script
src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.11.1/jquery.min.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript">

function keepalive()
{
	$.get("http://localhost/cgi-bin/keepalive.cgi");
}

// when document finishes loading, 
// set a timer to call keepalive every 30 seconds
$(document).ready(function(){
	window.setInterval(keepalive, 30000);
});

</script>
	

the keepalive.cgi can just be a simple as 'touch /tmp/keepalive.log'

then a cron job can test the timestamp and act accordingly




From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan 23 22:30:18 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:30:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
In-Reply-To: <1422051348.25863.14.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <CAGAFX7MtGECaVD+O7rfkk9tumv8NAHHcHqxvuUXuHaT=Sz9FVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1422049285.25863.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7P1Hs1UdWww42Ta5vXE_R7BQhistPxVgLuVUWF+ZBFbUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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thank you - big help!

Em

On 23 January 2015 at 22:15, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 21:54 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > yessss.... ajax - I was hoping to avoid ajax
> >
> <script
> src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.11.1/jquery.min.js
> "></script>
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
>
> function keepalive()
> {
>         $.get("http://localhost/cgi-bin/keepalive.cgi");
> }
>
> // when document finishes loading,
> // set a timer to call keepalive every 30 seconds
> $(document).ready(function(){
>         window.setInterval(keepalive, 30000);
> });
>
> </script>
>
>
> the keepalive.cgi can just be a simple as 'touch /tmp/keepalive.log'
>
> then a cron job can test the timestamp and act accordingly
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Fri Jan 23 23:21:57 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:21:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MtGECaVD+O7rfkk9tumv8NAHHcHqxvuUXuHaT=Sz9FVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7MtGECaVD+O7rfkk9tumv8NAHHcHqxvuUXuHaT=Sz9FVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150123232157.5661749e@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:28:49 +0000
Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> calling Linux gurus!
> 
> I have my Chip Shop system working almost as I want it... but...
> 
> I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected that the
> browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed for a certain
> period of time, it would close the browser and re-open it
> 
> I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it, but I
> can not for the life of me find the example again.
> 
> for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if chromium
> has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.
> 
> currently I am using a very simple
> 
> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">
> 
> to reload the page,
> 
> I would value advice. Thanks

On a kiosk I'd make the server drive /dev/watchdog based upon activity.

Alan


From em at preseli.com  Fri Jan 23 23:45:49 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:45:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
In-Reply-To: <20150123232157.5661749e@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
References: <CAGAFX7MtGECaVD+O7rfkk9tumv8NAHHcHqxvuUXuHaT=Sz9FVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150123232157.5661749e@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OGgziwvSOaMs9T0A7X6gHeTi0t+C3+ejE+=SNnHrziig@mail.gmail.com>

thank you... that was one of the things I couldn't put my finger on. Dohh!

On 23 January 2015 at 23:21, Alan Cox <alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:28:49 +0000
> Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> > calling Linux gurus!
> >
> > I have my Chip Shop system working almost as I want it... but...
> >
> > I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected that
> the
> > browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed for a certain
> > period of time, it would close the browser and re-open it
> >
> > I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it, but
> I
> > can not for the life of me find the example again.
> >
> > for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if
> chromium
> > has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.
> >
> > currently I am using a very simple
> >
> > <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">
> >
> > to reload the page,
> >
> > I would value advice. Thanks
>
> On a kiosk I'd make the server drive /dev/watchdog based upon activity.
>
> Alan
>



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From ming at gwndwn.org.uk  Sat Jan 24 09:04:51 2015
From: ming at gwndwn.org.uk (Iain Menzies-Runciman)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 09:04:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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Another option would be to use WebSockets

Create a WebSocket Server (I am using https://pypi.python.org/pypi/websockets <https://pypi.python.org/pypi/websockets> for one of my projects)

Then create a WebSocket call from within the Web Page.

Your server could then not only supply any changes dynamically, it could then also act as a watchdog timer on the requests from the client - e.g. if it has not been asked for a information refresh in X minutes, then it is a fair guess that there is something wrong.

If want more details about how it could work, let me know.

Regards,
Ming

> On 23 Jan 2015, at 21:54, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
> yessss.... ajax - I was hoping to avoid ajax
> 
> Just as I pushed the send button on my initial email JS and AJAX came to my mind.
> 
> the project started off easy, I was going to just supply JPEGs on a memory stick plugged into the tellies
> 
> Then he said about turning things on and off... changing prices on a weekly basis, and then wanting it controlled from his ipad
> 
> that is when it became a client server setup
> 
> that was the point I should have jacked the price up significantly to push him back to keeping it simple, but I am a sucker for a challenge.
> 
> It is all databased so AJAX isn't a problem
> 
> I have really optimised all the files so a refresh isn't at all bad, the nice HD background is the slowest thing loading.
> 
> what is scary though is if it loses connection to the server and the customers don't have a menu to look at. There a JS solution would be much better as it could cache data until it gets a new connection
> 
> I had thought of doing a cron job to detect if it had lost the server connection, and if so it would simply pipe a pre-defined screen capture to /dev/fb0
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 January 2015 at 21:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk <mailto:justin at discordia.org.uk>> wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 20:28 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> 
> > I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected
> > that the browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed
> > for a certain period of time, it would close the browser and re-open
> > it
> >
> >
> > I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it,
> > but I can not for the life of me find the example again.
> >
> >
> > for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if
> > chromium has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.
> >
> >
> > currently I am using a very simple
> > <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">
> > to reload the page,
> > I would value advice. Thanks
> 
> If there is a webserver on the pi have some javascript polling a simple
> cgi script (a bash script would do) via ajax, so it isnt disturbing the
> main page.
> 
> its easy enough to check that a process is still running from a shell
> script, but thats no indication that the page involved is still
> running/reloading.
> 
> Whilst there may be some cache and status files that belong to the
> browser, i dont imagine that it would be a terribly reliable indication
> of anything.
> 
> as an aside, those kind of page reloads are awefully klunky and
> disruptive, if you need any guidance on ajax, jquery, and other more
> modern stuff I or one of the others will gladly help i'm sure.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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From em at preseli.com  Sat Jan 24 22:23:40 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:23:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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Thank you all, lots of ideas to think about.

I'm also considering adding buttons to each pi connected to GPIO to trigger
reboot or shutdown.

Now if websockets connected to IFTTT....

On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Iain Menzies-Runciman <ming at gwndwn.org.uk>
wrote:

> Another option would be to use WebSockets
>
> Create a WebSocket Server (I am using
> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/websockets for one of my projects)
>
> Then create a WebSocket call from within the Web Page.
>
> Your server could then not only supply any changes dynamically, it could
> then also act as a watchdog timer on the requests from the client - e.g. if
> it has not been asked for a information refresh in X minutes, then it is a
> fair guess that there is something wrong.
>
> If want more details about how it could work, let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Ming
>
> On 23 Jan 2015, at 21:54, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
> yessss.... ajax - I was hoping to avoid ajax
>
> Just as I pushed the send button on my initial email JS and AJAX came to
> my mind.
>
> the project started off easy, I was going to just supply JPEGs on a memory
> stick plugged into the tellies
>
> Then he said about turning things on and off... changing prices on a
> weekly basis, and then wanting it controlled from his ipad
>
> that is when it became a client server setup
>
> that was the point I should have jacked the price up significantly to push
> him back to keeping it simple, but I am a sucker for a challenge.
>
> It is all databased so AJAX isn't a problem
>
> I have really optimised all the files so a refresh isn't at all bad, the
> nice HD background is the slowest thing loading.
>
> what is scary though is if it loses connection to the server and the
> customers don't have a menu to look at. There a JS solution would be much
> better as it could cache data until it gets a new connection
>
> I had thought of doing a cron job to detect if it had lost the server
> connection, and if so it would simply pipe a pre-defined screen capture to
> /dev/fb0
>
>
>
> On 23 January 2015 at 21:41, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin at discordia.org.uk');>> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 20:28 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>>
>> > I was hoping to have something monitor chromium and if it detected
>> > that the browser had frozen / stopped responding or hadn't refreshed
>> > for a certain period of time, it would close the browser and re-open
>> > it
>> >
>> >
>> > I thought I had found an example a few months ago and bookmarked it,
>> > but I can not for the life of me find the example again.
>> >
>> >
>> > for example, I have a web page that is refreshed every 5 mins, if
>> > chromium has not refreshed in 10 mins it needs to be restarted.
>> >
>> >
>> > currently I am using a very simple
>> > <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="120">
>> > to reload the page,
>> > I would value advice. Thanks
>>
>> If there is a webserver on the pi have some javascript polling a simple
>> cgi script (a bash script would do) via ajax, so it isnt disturbing the
>> main page.
>>
>> its easy enough to check that a process is still running from a shell
>> script, but thats no indication that the page involved is still
>> running/reloading.
>>
>> Whilst there may be some cache and status files that belong to the
>> browser, i dont imagine that it would be a terribly reliable indication
>> of anything.
>>
>> as an aside, those kind of page reloads are awefully klunky and
>> disruptive, if you need any guidance on ajax, jquery, and other more
>> modern stuff I or one of the others will gladly help i'm sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sat Jan 24 22:41:53 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:41:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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On Sat, 2015-01-24 at 22:23 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> Thank you all, lots of ideas to think about. 
> 
> 
> I'm also considering adding buttons to each pi connected to GPIO to
> trigger reboot or shutdown. 
> 
> 
> Now if websockets connected to IFTTT....


websockets are a bit new, and rather niche imho,
ifttt will be using json like pretty much every other web service these
days, pretty trivial to talk to using the jquery ajax methods.





From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Sat Jan 24 23:33:38 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 23:33:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:41:53 +0000
Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 2015-01-24 at 22:23 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > Thank you all, lots of ideas to think about. 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm also considering adding buttons to each pi connected to GPIO to
> > trigger reboot or shutdown. 
> > 
> > 
> > Now if websockets connected to IFTTT....
> 
> 
> websockets are a bit new, and rather niche imho,

That may have been true two years ago. A lot of stuff now uses websockets
but usually nobody notices


From ming at gwndwn.org.uk  Sun Jan 25 09:31:07 2015
From: ming at gwndwn.org.uk (Iain Menzies-Runciman)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 09:31:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
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	<1422049285.25863.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7P1Hs1UdWww42Ta5vXE_R7BQhistPxVgLuVUWF+ZBFbUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 24 Jan 2015, at 22:23, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you all, lots of ideas to think about. 
> 
> I'm also considering adding buttons to each pi connected to GPIO to trigger reboot or shutdown. 
> 
> Now if websockets connected to IFTTT....


From the looks of it, IFTTT doesn?t have a direct API - but here?s an example of triggering it by sending an E-mail

http://www.averagemanvsraspberrypi.com/2013/09/make-your-raspberry-pi-tweet-its.html <http://www.averagemanvsraspberrypi.com/2013/09/make-your-raspberry-pi-tweet-its.html> 

so, your websocket server could hook into something like that

Regards,
Ming.

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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jan 26 12:44:45 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:44:45 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi - kiosk mode
In-Reply-To: <4658C1AC-88C6-4E61-8E1B-6FD9B2CA1226@gwndwn.org.uk>
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	<1422049285.25863.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7P1Hs1UdWww42Ta5vXE_R7BQhistPxVgLuVUWF+ZBFbUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Got the screens up and running yesterday - all looking very good and the
chippy owner is chuffed.

The more I think about it an AJAX solution will probably be the best long
term.

I'll have to get my head around jquery to get the best text effects. I have
been using jquery for about 5 years, but I still prefer to write the JS
myself than use it for the simple stuff.

He is only half way through the refurbishment program, once the ceiling is
done I will take some photos and share them.

Thank you for the words of wisdom, all good stuff and food for thought.

Emyr

On 25 January 2015 at 09:31, Iain Menzies-Runciman <ming at gwndwn.org.uk>
wrote:

>
> On 24 Jan 2015, at 22:23, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you all, lots of ideas to think about.
>
> I'm also considering adding buttons to each pi connected to GPIO to
> trigger reboot or shutdown.
>
> Now if websockets connected to IFTTT....
>
>
> From the looks of it, IFTTT doesn?t have a direct API - but here?s an
> example of triggering it by sending an E-mail
>
>
> http://www.averagemanvsraspberrypi.com/2013/09/make-your-raspberry-pi-tweet-its.html
>
>
> so, your websocket server could hook into something like that
>
> Regards,
> Ming.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 11:23:22 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:23:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D Printer electronics
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8AQh==_MCN6wDjoO-_noB4xs2ii6GZ-Zpm-KTxOJxwnw@mail.gmail.com>

Badnews: found atmel chip in stores, but it is ATMEGA16, we need
atmega1284-p-au

Will have a rummage in 'my' stores tomorrow ..

Cheers

Ceri
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Jan 27 11:56:02 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:56:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D Printer electronics
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8AQh==_MCN6wDjoO-_noB4xs2ii6GZ-Zpm-KTxOJxwnw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1422359762.3658.1.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 11:23 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> Badnews: found atmel chip in stores, but it is ATMEGA16, we need
> atmega1284-p-au
> 
> 
> Will have a rummage in 'my' stores tomorrow ..
> 

We needed to update to the RUMBA board anyway to fit tims printer
upgrades, just means it has to be done sooner rather than later.

The old board could still be useful for upgrading a cheap laser cutter
or something, even with a damaged thermistor channel.





From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 14:46:21 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:46:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D Printer electronics
In-Reply-To: <1422359762.3658.1.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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Just found circuit diagram,

http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/7/7d/Melzi-circuit.png

we could simply re-map Hot end to the AUX header, and change code in micro
??

Hot End on PA7 -> PA4.

just need a 4K7 resistor !!

Bit concerned that ALL sensors have 4u7F caps on them !!
Hot end, Hot Bed as well as X,Y, & Z endstops ?????

Ceri

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 11:23 +0000, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> > Badnews: found atmel chip in stores, but it is ATMEGA16, we need
> > atmega1284-p-au
> >
> >
> > Will have a rummage in 'my' stores tomorrow ..
> >
>
> We needed to update to the RUMBA board anyway to fit tims printer
> upgrades, just means it has to be done sooner rather than later.
>
> The old board could still be useful for upgrading a cheap laser cutter
> or something, even with a damaged thermistor channel.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Jan 29 14:35:54 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:35:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d printing course
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Po9YMbnOFpHEh3jCMdhZPggfJ0UGgkKtvg83G3Q=ZXaw@mail.gmail.com>

have you got many signed up for tonight?

I might tag along if the numbers are low as I would love to go over it again

thanks

Emyr
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 31 10:29:13 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (djdavies83)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 10:29:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Anyone on the CNC today?
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS251D1327316EDE0147D2870C63E0@phx.gbl>

Is anyone in today who could give me a recap on the flatcam (I lost the screen shots I took of the ptocess) and on the universal Gcode sender?

Once I ve done these a couple of times I'll be fine, I just need a little pratice, I wouldn't want to risk doing it on my own.


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