From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Jul  1 06:41:47 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 06:41:47 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bits for 3D printing
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-2n1kNFHqK+0MZsh3a_upLUBWt5exrwZV4aXqW8fRByw@mail.gmail.com>

There are lots of sources.  .
I love banggood.com   ..
Ebay.co.uk  is really good.
Amazon
Sintron
We do 3d printing
also robotdi gig. Com

Most from China = two weeks +

I prefer GT2 belts.pullies
Not 100% sure but might be designed for position.  As opposed to gt5 for
rotation

If you need something specific
Then send a link to what you have found.

Ceri
On 30 Jun 2015 22:56, "Tim Moore" <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I understand the cogs/pulleys that drive the moving platforms have a 6mm
> core ?
>
> is there a preferred source of supply for these cogs, the spindles they
> are mounted on and the belts connecting them ?
>
> My naming of the parts might not be correct but  my needs duplicate the
> same needs a 3D printer has, and I don't want to re-invent the wheel !
>
> :  ))
>
> Tim_1
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  1 07:59:39 2015
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 07:59:39 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bits for 3D printing
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-2n1kNFHqK+0MZsh3a_upLUBWt5exrwZV4aXqW8fRByw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAO=DJn-2n1kNFHqK+0MZsh3a_upLUBWt5exrwZV4aXqW8fRByw@mail.gmail.com>
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Many thanks GT5 looks promising.....

:  ))))

Tim_1

On 1 July 2015 at 06:41, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are lots of sources.  .
> I love banggood.com   ..
> Ebay.co.uk  is really good.
> Amazon
> Sintron
> We do 3d printing
> also robotdi gig. Com
>
> Most from China = two weeks +
>
> I prefer GT2 belts.pullies
> Not 100% sure but might be designed for position.  As opposed to gt5 for
> rotation
>
> If you need something specific
> Then send a link to what you have found.
>
> Ceri
> On 30 Jun 2015 22:56, "Tim Moore" <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I understand the cogs/pulleys that drive the moving platforms have a 6mm
>> core ?
>>
>> is there a preferred source of supply for these cogs, the spindles they
>> are mounted on and the belts connecting them ?
>>
>> My naming of the parts might not be correct but  my needs duplicate the
>> same needs a 3D printer has, and I don't want to re-invent the wheel !
>>
>> :  ))
>>
>> Tim_1
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Wed Jul  1 09:30:40 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 09:30:40 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bits for 3D printing
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1435739440.29583.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 22:55 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> I understand the cogs/pulleys that drive the moving platforms have a
> 6mm core ?

Standard reprap moving parts are things like :-

LM8UU linear bearings on M8 (8mm) smooth rod

pulleys and axel bearings are typically 608ZZ (8MM) or 623ZZ (3mm)
roller bearings.

belts are T2.5 timing belts, the drive pulley being printed, or one of
the metal ones often sold with the belt.
 





From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Wed Jul  1 09:41:12 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:41:12 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bits for 3D printing
In-Reply-To: <1435739440.29583.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>
	<1435739440.29583.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <6A5E465A-1188-4A67-BF6F-CCB263B38FDA@gmail.com>

In terms of finding UK and local suppliers to buy them:

> LM8UU linear bearings on M8 (8mm) smooth rod

I get my linear bearings and smooth rods from http://www.technobotsonline.com/ <http://www.technobotsonline.com/>
> pulleys and axel bearings are typically 608ZZ (8MM) or 623ZZ (3mm)
> roller bearings.

608ZZ bearings can be bought from a skateboard shop.

Other components:
- If you need shaft couplers, http://ooznest.co.uk/ <http://ooznest.co.uk/> has some.
- If you need threaded rod, B&Q may be able to help.
- For screws and nuts, don?t waste your time going to Screwfix - Swansea Fasteners and Engineering Supplies have M3 bolts and screws of all types:  http://www.swanseafasteners.co.uk/ <http://www.swanseafasteners.co.uk/>
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jul  1 09:49:41 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:49:41 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bits for 3D printing
In-Reply-To: <6A5E465A-1188-4A67-BF6F-CCB263B38FDA@gmail.com>
References: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>
	<1435739440.29583.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<6A5E465A-1188-4A67-BF6F-CCB263B38FDA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PaiXWd_UjVZT3SDEXVhTx8z+Vo4iJgxdO0UM5mqXgwgA@mail.gmail.com>

love Swansea Fasteners... their heavy duty cable ties held the Pontardawe
Festival together for five years ;-)

On 1 July 2015 at 09:41, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> In terms of finding UK and local suppliers to buy them:
>
> LM8UU linear bearings on M8 (8mm) smooth rod
>
>
> I get my linear bearings and smooth rods from
> http://www.technobotsonline.com/
>
> pulleys and axel bearings are typically 608ZZ (8MM) or 623ZZ (3mm)
> roller bearings.
>
>
> 608ZZ bearings can be bought from a skateboard shop.
>
> Other components:
> - If you need shaft couplers, http://ooznest.co.uk/ has some.
> - If you need threaded rod, B&Q may be able to help.
> - For screws and nuts, don?t waste your time going to Screwfix - Swansea
> Fasteners and Engineering Supplies have M3 bolts and screws of all types:
> http://www.swanseafasteners.co.uk/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Thu Jul  2 01:44:02 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 01:44:02 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser cutter induction
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7N4k7Lri=K321fprgbw_3n9prvDvzbWf6-fg0wFKsPVqg@mail.gmail.com>

tonight's laser induction went very smoothly - the guys have put in an
awful lot of time into getting the machine working and also in getting to
grips with the nuances of making my it work.
The end result tonight was a very slick and straight forward introduction
to machine safety and on how to use it safely and effectively.
The write up on the website helps a lot and is a valuable resource for us
all.
Everybody had a go with card and acrylic, and after most people left I had
two more goes on laminated MDF - I left my attempts at the space in case
anybody wants to look at them. A very enjoyable evening. I learnt a lot
again tonight.
A huge thank you to Justin, Tim and Tom.
I did my initial designs in Adobe Illustrator then used Inkscape to convert
to .emf for the laser software. Even though I prepared cuts and holes in
AI, I ended up using only the etch .emf opting to quickly redrawing the
cuts and holes in laser draw. This turned out to be a quicker, easier and
probably more reliable way of doing it.
Can't wait to get back into the space for another go!
Emyr


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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Thu Jul  2 06:58:20 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:58:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser cutter induction
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7N4k7Lri=K321fprgbw_3n9prvDvzbWf6-fg0wFKsPVqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7N4k7Lri=K321fprgbw_3n9prvDvzbWf6-fg0wFKsPVqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvCQat0nkc7P5ZMNxsL0=s=7_0W3j+C1dvC3vGFt8YvPrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the synopsis Emyr (very helpful for us that couldn't make it),
great to hear it went well and looking forward to getting to have a go
myself.

On 2 July 2015 at 01:44, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> tonight's laser induction went very smoothly - the guys have put in an
> awful lot of time into getting the machine working and also in getting to
> grips with the nuances of making my it work.
> The end result tonight was a very slick and straight forward introduction
> to machine safety and on how to use it safely and effectively.
> The write up on the website helps a lot and is a valuable resource for us
> all.
> Everybody had a go with card and acrylic, and after most people left I had
> two more goes on laminated MDF - I left my attempts at the space in case
> anybody wants to look at them. A very enjoyable evening. I learnt a lot
> again tonight.
> A huge thank you to Justin, Tim and Tom.
> I did my initial designs in Adobe Illustrator then used Inkscape to
> convert to .emf for the laser software. Even though I prepared cuts and
> holes in AI, I ended up using only the etch .emf opting to quickly
> redrawing the cuts and holes in laser draw. This turned out to be a
> quicker, easier and probably more reliable way of doing it.
> Can't wait to get back into the space for another go!
> Emyr
>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Jul  2 07:17:18 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 07:17:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser cutter induction
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvCQat0nkc7P5ZMNxsL0=s=7_0W3j+C1dvC3vGFt8YvPrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7N4k7Lri=K321fprgbw_3n9prvDvzbWf6-fg0wFKsPVqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvCQat0nkc7P5ZMNxsL0=s=7_0W3j+C1dvC3vGFt8YvPrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PGkgCZikUR3D_4=ixU8hT55UK3toRnMY_9H_Q6jn8q_A@mail.gmail.com>

In many respects it is a lot easier than milling on the CNC, but like the
CNC a lot of care is required to make sure that the settings are correct to
avoid spoiling your work.

I put some photos on Facebook late last night and tagged in the Hackspace
page, they should be visible if you go to the page.

73 de Emyr

On Thursday, 2 July 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Thanks for the synopsis Emyr (very helpful for us that couldn't make it),
> great to hear it went well and looking forward to getting to have a go
> myself.
>
> On 2 July 2015 at 01:44, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
>> tonight's laser induction went very smoothly - the guys have put in an
>> awful lot of time into getting the machine working and also in getting to
>> grips with the nuances of making my it work.
>> The end result tonight was a very slick and straight forward introduction
>> to machine safety and on how to use it safely and effectively.
>> The write up on the website helps a lot and is a valuable resource for us
>> all.
>> Everybody had a go with card and acrylic, and after most people left I
>> had two more goes on laminated MDF - I left my attempts at the space in
>> case anybody wants to look at them. A very enjoyable evening. I learnt a
>> lot again tonight.
>> A huge thank you to Justin, Tim and Tom.
>> I did my initial designs in Adobe Illustrator then used Inkscape to
>> convert to .emf for the laser software. Even though I prepared cuts and
>> holes in AI, I ended up using only the etch .emf opting to quickly
>> redrawing the cuts and holes in laser draw. This turned out to be a
>> quicker, easier and probably more reliable way of doing it.
>> Can't wait to get back into the space for another go!
>> Emyr
>>
>>
>> --
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>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>
> Richard
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  6 13:51:30 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:51:30 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Fwd: Laser time tonight
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS400813226B65C7AD7B93B00C6930@phx.gbl>

New email settings? Said message was too large.

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From: David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
Date:06/07/2015 13:43 (GMT+00:00)
To: hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Laser time tonight

Hey guys, I guess the laser will be in full swing tonight, just wondering if there is space for me to cut 3 A4 sheets of foam?

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1746834&page=1


Once I get home I'll strip all unnecessary bits and export these as .EMF , is there any particular version, standard or format of .EMF I should aim for?

If anyone could bring a couple of RJ45 that would be appreciated.


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jul  6 14:05:56 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 14:05:56 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Fwd: Laser time tonight
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS400813226B65C7AD7B93B00C6930@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS400813226B65C7AD7B93B00C6930@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1436187956.1622.5.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Mon, 2015-07-06 at 13:51 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote:
> New email settings? Said message was too large.
Same limit it's always been 3MB of mime-encoded attachment.
This email was 3.6Mb when encoded (2.6mb raw)

better to host images externally, imgur, google photos, etc.



> Hey guys, I guess the laser will be in full swing tonight, just
> wondering if there is space for me to cut 3 A4 sheets of foam?

nobody has reserved a space or anything, its first come first served.

cutting area is 315 x 215 according to tims measurements, very slightly
larger than A4.  so as long as it isnt US letter it should be fine :)

> Once I get home I'll strip all unnecessary bits and export these
> as .EMF , is there any particular version, standard or format of .EMF
> I should aim for?
didnt know there was any options.

that machine now has inkscape and a few other tools installed so
converting in advance is less important.






From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Thu Jul  9 10:26:35 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear All,

At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.

This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
amazing stuff:

Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
Resistance substitution boxes
Capacitor substitution boxes
Components in component drawers
Transistor curve tracers
Three HP phase meters
An LCR component bridge
Hand tools

... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.

Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
attitude to the bits.

You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.

regards

Timothy Davies


From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Jul  9 14:04:31 2015
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 14:04:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
(a) do we want it/all.?
(b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?

- Sharon



On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
"Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
> 
> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
> amazing stuff:
> 
> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
> Resistance substitution boxes
> Capacitor substitution boxes
> Components in component drawers
> Transistor curve tracers
> Three HP phase meters
> An LCR component bridge
> Hand tools
> 
> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
> 
> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
> attitude to the bits.
> 
> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
> 
> regards
> 
> Timothy Davies
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From em at preseli.com  Thu Jul  9 14:05:49 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 14:05:49 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] #maplingbus
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OG+ZL7nwMQKusM13113fnu6ReNJqn2hvDzy65XQD4w1Q@mail.gmail.com>

the Maplin Bus is in Swansea City Centre today - I understand they have a
prize draw going on and some demos going on

I can't make it sadly

Em

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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 14:10:55 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:10:55 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <559E72DF.8040803@aurinia.co.uk>



On 09/07/15 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
> (a) do we want it/all.?
> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>
> - Sharon
In principle we want all the kit we can get, but I am reminded of the 
build up of PC boxes we are getting.
It should be useful stuff  which as far as I can see is what it is.

The other question is of course do we have room, and I can't answer that 
because I don' know the volume and size.

We don't often get opportunities like this for kit. It is going to be 
chucked out so I think we should rescue it where possible.

Neil


>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>
>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>> amazing stuff:
>>
>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>> Resistance substitution boxes
>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>> Components in component drawers
>> Transistor curve tracers
>> Three HP phase meters
>> An LCR component bridge
>> Hand tools
>>
>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>
>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>> attitude to the bits.
>>
>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Timothy Davies
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Thu Jul  9 14:25:23 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 13:25:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Sharon,

Thanks for your positive reply to my email!
I can be around tomorrow am (but not early).
My cellphone number is 07973 425727, and my
techs are Gareth 602296, David 295479.

Timothy

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 14:04
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
(a) do we want it/all.?
(b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?

- Sharon



On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
"Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>
> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
> amazing stuff:
>
> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
> Resistance substitution boxes
> Capacitor substitution boxes
> Components in component drawers
> Transistor curve tracers
> Three HP phase meters
> An LCR component bridge
> Hand tools
>
> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>
> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
> attitude to the bits.
>
> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>
> regards
>
> Timothy Davies
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace


From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Jul  9 14:37:05 2015
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 14:37:05 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20150709143705.333be16a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

Thank you Tim!

I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish




From eclipse at sucs.org  Thu Jul  9 14:38:22 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:38:22 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>

My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools 
depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound 
useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be happy 
to lend a hand.

Tim

On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
> (a) do we want it/all.?
> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>
> - Sharon
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>
>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>> amazing stuff:
>>
>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>> Resistance substitution boxes
>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>> Components in component drawers
>> Transistor curve tracers
>> Three HP phase meters
>> An LCR component bridge
>> Hand tools
>>
>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>
>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>> attitude to the bits.
>>
>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Timothy Davies
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Jul  9 15:07:31 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:07:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1436450851.28234.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

Cool stuff, but storage is limited so we have to be pretty ruthless on
what will be of benefit vs how much space it takes up.

My initial thoughts would be:

> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
Analogue ones ? i would inclined to say not worth it

> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
Yes, especially if they are adjustable voltage.

> Resistance substitution boxes
> Capacitor substitution boxes
no day to day use for these

> Components in component drawers
always useful

> Transistor curve tracers
> Three HP phase meters
if these are what i think they are then i cant imagine they would ever
get used

> An LCR component bridge
one of these sounds like it could be useful, as long as its not too
huge.

> Hand tools
probably useful.

> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
We had really hoped for more of those hitachi oscilloscopes or
equivalent, as one of the two we have is a bit flakey.




From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 15:10:49 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:10:49 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>



On 09/07/15 14:38, Tim Clark wrote:
> My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools 
> depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound 
> useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
> Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be happy 
> to lend a hand.
>
> Tim
Those power supplies are very useful surely?

I can think of lots of uses for them. They may be a bit bulky but surely 
we have space.

Neil


>
> On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
>> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
>> (a) do we want it/all.?
>> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>>
>> - Sharon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
>> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>>
>>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>>> amazing stuff:
>>>
>>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>>> Resistance substitution boxes
>>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>>> Components in component drawers
>>> Transistor curve tracers
>>> Three HP phase meters
>>> An LCR component bridge
>>> Hand tools
>>>
>>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>>
>>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>>> attitude to the bits.
>>>
>>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Timothy Davies
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



From eclipse at sucs.org  Thu Jul  9 15:16:41 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:16:41 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>	<559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>
	<559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <559E8249.5010001@sucs.org>



On 09/07/2015 15:10, Neil Jones wrote:
>
>
> On 09/07/15 14:38, Tim Clark wrote:
>> My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools 
>> depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound 
>> useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
>> Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be 
>> happy to lend a hand.
>>
>> Tim
> Those power supplies are very useful surely?
>
> I can think of lots of uses for them. They may be a bit bulky but 
> surely we have space.
>
> Neil
I assumed they were fixed 36v supplies, which wont be that useful, if 
they are variable supplies then that's a diffident matter.

Can you be more specific about what they are Tim?

Tim
>
>
>>
>> On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
>>> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
>>> (a) do we want it/all.?
>>> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>>>
>>> - Sharon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
>>> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>>>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>>>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>>>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>>>
>>>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>>>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>>>> amazing stuff:
>>>>
>>>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>>>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>>>> Resistance substitution boxes
>>>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>>>> Components in component drawers
>>>> Transistor curve tracers
>>>> Three HP phase meters
>>>> An LCR component bridge
>>>> Hand tools
>>>>
>>>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>>>
>>>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>>>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>>>> attitude to the bits.
>>>>
>>>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>>>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Timothy Davies
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 15:20:03 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:20:03 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <559E8249.5010001@sucs.org>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>	<559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>	<559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>
	<559E8249.5010001@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <559E8313.3000406@aurinia.co.uk>



On 09/07/15 15:16, Tim Clark wrote:
>
>
> On 09/07/2015 15:10, Neil Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/07/15 14:38, Tim Clark wrote:
>>> My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools 
>>> depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound 
>>> useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
>>> Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be 
>>> happy to lend a hand.
>>>
>>> Tim
>> Those power supplies are very useful surely?
>>
>> I can think of lots of uses for them. They may be a bit bulky but 
>> surely we have space.
>>
>> Neil
> I assumed they were fixed 36v supplies, which wont be that useful, if 
> they are variable supplies then that's a diffident matter.
>
> Can you be more specific about what they are Tim?
>
> Tim

I assume variable since 36v is an odd figure and agrees with other 
variable power supplies


>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
>>>> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
>>>> (a) do we want it/all.?
>>>> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>>>>
>>>> - Sharon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
>>>> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>>>>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>>>>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>>>>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>>>>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>>>>> amazing stuff:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>>>>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>>>>> Resistance substitution boxes
>>>>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>>>>> Components in component drawers
>>>>> Transistor curve tracers
>>>>> Three HP phase meters
>>>>> An LCR component bridge
>>>>> Hand tools
>>>>>
>>>>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>>>>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>>>>> attitude to the bits.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>>>>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy Davies
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Thu Jul  9 21:12:32 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:12:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <559E8313.3000406@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>	<559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>
	<559E8249.5010001@sucs.org>,<559E8313.3000406@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A134E@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear All,

The power supplies (of which there are about 24)
are indeed variable 0-36V, with current limit 0-1A
and separate digital meters for V and I.

regards

Timothy Davies

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Neil Jones [neil at aurinia.co.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 15:20
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

On 09/07/15 15:16, Tim Clark wrote:
>
>
> On 09/07/2015 15:10, Neil Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/07/15 14:38, Tim Clark wrote:
>>> My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools
>>> depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound
>>> useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
>>> Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be
>>> happy to lend a hand.
>>>
>>> Tim
>> Those power supplies are very useful surely?
>>
>> I can think of lots of uses for them. They may be a bit bulky but
>> surely we have space.
>>
>> Neil
> I assumed they were fixed 36v supplies, which wont be that useful, if
> they are variable supplies then that's a diffident matter.
>
> Can you be more specific about what they are Tim?
>
> Tim

I assume variable since 36v is an odd figure and agrees with other
variable power supplies


>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
>>>> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
>>>> (a) do we want it/all.?
>>>> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>>>>
>>>> - Sharon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
>>>> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>>>>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>>>>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>>>>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>>>>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>>>>> amazing stuff:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>>>>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>>>>> Resistance substitution boxes
>>>>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>>>>> Components in component drawers
>>>>> Transistor curve tracers
>>>>> Three HP phase meters
>>>>> An LCR component bridge
>>>>> Hand tools
>>>>>
>>>>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>>>>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>>>>> attitude to the bits.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>>>>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy Davies
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
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>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Thu Jul  9 21:25:15 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:25:15 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <1436450851.28234.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<1436450851.28234.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A1366@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Justin et al,

Sorry to hit you with a plethora of replies,
I am dealing with each question as it appears!

The Hung Chang meters are digital, similar to
the first gen of Fluke meters.

Yes the supplies are variable, both in V and I.
Very neat, about the size of ... no good, my simile
engine has failed. Have to resort to actual measurement.

There is only one LCR bridge, David has set it 
aside especially for the hackers. It is a flat object,
about the size of an expensive box of chocs (whew,
the simile engine is working again!)

There is ONE Hitachi CRO left, a bit dented.
HOWEVER, there is a lovely Tektronix 7603
with plug-ins which is good for 200MHz!

I agree about the R and C substitution boxes, 
no use for them myself, I always get the value
right first time.

Transistor curve tracers are entertaining, but again
not much use day to day.

Regards

Timothy


________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Justin Mitchell [justin at discordia.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 15:07
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Cool stuff, but storage is limited so we have to be pretty ruthless on
what will be of benefit vs how much space it takes up.

My initial thoughts would be:

> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
Analogue ones ? i would inclined to say not worth it

> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
Yes, especially if they are adjustable voltage.

> Resistance substitution boxes
> Capacitor substitution boxes
no day to day use for these

> Components in component drawers
always useful

> Transistor curve tracers
> Three HP phase meters
if these are what i think they are then i cant imagine they would ever
get used

> An LCR component bridge
one of these sounds like it could be useful, as long as its not too
huge.

> Hand tools
probably useful.

> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
We had really hoped for more of those hitachi oscilloscopes or
equivalent, as one of the two we have is a bit flakey.


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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Thu Jul  9 21:27:50 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:27:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <20150709143705.333be16a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<20150709143705.333be16a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A137A@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Sharon et al,

Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.

OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
be there before me.

The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
below campus level. 

I shall prime my troops to look out for you.

TD

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Thank you Tim!

I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish


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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Jul  9 21:36:37 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:36:37 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A1366@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	, <1436450851.28234.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A1366@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1436474197.22277.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 20:25 +0000, Davies T. wrote:
> The Hung Chang meters are digital, similar to
> the first gen of Fluke meters.
> 
> Yes the supplies are variable, both in V and I.
> Very neat, about the size of ... no good, my simile
> engine has failed. Have to resort to actual measurement.
> 
> There is only one LCR bridge, David has set it 
> aside especially for the hackers. It is a flat object,
> about the size of an expensive box of chocs (whew,
> the simile engine is working again!)
> 
> There is ONE Hitachi CRO left, a bit dented.
> HOWEVER, there is a lovely Tektronix 7603
> with plug-ins which is good for 200MHz!
> 
> I agree about the R and C substitution boxes, 
> no use for them myself, I always get the value
> right first time.
> 
> Transistor curve tracers are entertaining, but again
> not much use day to day.

Great, thanks for the update, the multimeters suddenly sound a lot more
interesting, and that tek CRO would be wonderful.
we shall be delighted to relieve you of them :)
thank you very much.






From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 21:55:04 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:55:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A134E@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>	<559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>	<559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>	<559E8249.5010001@sucs.org>,
	<559E8313.3000406@aurinia.co.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A134E@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <559EDFA8.1080205@aurinia.co.uk>



On 09/07/15 21:12, Davies T. wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> The power supplies (of which there are about 24)
> are indeed variable 0-36V, with current limit 0-1A
> and separate digital meters for V and I.
>
> regards
>
> Timothy Davies

First of all, would the hackspace want/need 24 power supplies? I think 
not, but please please correct me if I were to be incorrect as I would 
put the good of the group
ahead here. If that is the case I MIGHT want one.

So the question is how big are they. 6ft by 6ft, 1 ft by 1ft , 6cm by 6 
cm etc.
It would be really really useful to have some idea.

Also is it the case as I have been led to believe that tomorrow is the 
absolute last chance?

In which case would  need to get down there tomorrow?

Neil

> ________________________________________
> From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Neil Jones [neil at aurinia.co.uk]
> Sent: 09 July 2015 15:20
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
>
> On 09/07/15 15:16, Tim Clark wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2015 15:10, Neil Jones wrote:
>>>   be
>>>
>>> On 09/07/15 14:38, Tim Clark wrote:
>>>> My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools
>>>> depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound
>>>> useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
>>>> Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be
>>>> happy to lend a hand.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>> Those power supplies are very useful surely?
>>>
>>> I can think of lots of uses for them. They may be a bit bulky but
>>> surely we have space.
>>>
>>> Neil
>> I assumed they were fixed 36v supplies, which wont be that useful, if
>> they are variable supplies then that's a diffident matter.
>>
>> Can you be more specific about what they are Tim?
>>
>> Tim
> I assume variable since 36v is an odd figure and agrees with other
> variable power supplies
>
>
>>>
>>>> On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
>>>>> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
>>>>> (a) do we want it/all.?
>>>>> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
>>>>> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>>>>>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>>>>>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>>>>>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>>>>>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>>>>>> amazing stuff:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>>>>>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>>>>>> Resistance substitution boxes
>>>>>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>>>>>> Components in component drawers
>>>>>> Transistor curve tracers
>>>>>> Three HP phase meters
>>>>>> An LCR component bridge
>>>>>> Hand tools
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>>>>>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>>>>>> attitude to the bits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>>>>>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Timothy Davies
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
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>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
> _______________________________________________
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>



From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 22:00:19 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 22:00:19 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A137A@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<, > <20150709143705.333be16a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A137A@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP50A4D91F12A33DB42AB91C8A900@phx.gbl>

I will also be down 11ish with my brother to give a hand.

Gwion.


> On 9 Jul 2015, at 21:27, Davies T. <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Dear Sharon et al,
> 
> Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.
> 
> OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
> be there before me.
> 
> The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
> below campus level. 
> 
> I shall prime my troops to look out for you.
> 
> TD
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
> Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
> 
> Thank you Tim!
> 
> I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From em at preseli.com  Thu Jul  9 22:19:08 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 22:19:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP50A4D91F12A33DB42AB91C8A900@phx.gbl>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709143705.333be16a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A137A@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<BLU436-SMTP50A4D91F12A33DB42AB91C8A900@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NOL7bahU4PVz21tG0jReFnLrGG2Cj8OKZKwGE8ufS5dA@mail.gmail.com>

Tim, I would love a Power Supply if one is available and is spare - I can
not get to Swansea tomorrow - I have a client visiting, Monday I am in
Cardiff - if the recovery crew is able to take one to the hackspace for me
I would be very grateful

73 de Emyr


On 9 July 2015 at 22:00, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> wrote:

> I will also be down 11ish with my brother to give a hand.
>
> Gwion.
>
>
> > On 9 Jul 2015, at 21:27, Davies T. <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sharon et al,
> >
> > Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.
> >
> > OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
> > be there before me.
> >
> > The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
> > below campus level.
> >
> > I shall prime my troops to look out for you.
> >
> > TD
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [
> hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [
> sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
> > Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
> >
> > Thank you Tim!
> >
> > I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 10 00:16:37 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:16:37 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS16822BA2A1AF0966A06233EC6900@phx.gbl>

Hi Tim, so much movement since I read the first email when my battery died about 6 hours ago.

I can make it round for about 13:30ish I could grab a variable supply, or two.
 how heavy are they... Small/medium dog or small child?
And a multimeter or two if possible, mine keep dying/running off I to hiding.


Is there scope for a Monday, post work visit if I can carry enough tomorrow?



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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> </div><div>Date:09/07/2015  21:28  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free! </div><div>
</div>
Dear Sharon et al,

Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.

OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
be there before me.

The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
below campus level.

I shall prime my troops to look out for you.

TD

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Thank you Tim!

I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish


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From eclipse at sucs.org  Fri Jul 10 00:33:53 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:33:53 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NOL7bahU4PVz21tG0jReFnLrGG2Cj8OKZKwGE8ufS5dA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A12E9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<20150709143705.333be16a@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A137A@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	<BLU436-SMTP50A4D91F12A33DB42AB91C8A900@phx.gbl>
	<CAGAFX7NOL7bahU4PVz21tG0jReFnLrGG2Cj8OKZKwGE8ufS5dA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <559F04E1.8000709@sucs.org>

If there are supplies going spare, I also wouldn't mind one for myself.

Tim

On 09/07/15 22:19, Emyr Morris wrote:
> Tim, I would love a Power Supply if one is available and is spare - I 
> can not get to Swansea tomorrow - I have a client visiting, Monday I 
> am in Cardiff - if the recovery crew is able to take one to the 
> hackspace for me I would be very grateful
>
> 73 de Emyr
>
>
> On 9 July 2015 at 22:00, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk 
> <mailto:gwiondavies at live.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     I will also be down 11ish with my brother to give a hand.
>
>     Gwion.
>
>
>     > On 9 Jul 2015, at 21:27, Davies T. <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk
>     <mailto:t.davies at swansea.ac.uk>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Dear Sharon et al,
>     >
>     > Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.
>     >
>     > OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
>     > be there before me.
>     >
>     > The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
>     > below campus level.
>     >
>     > I shall prime my troops to look out for you.
>     >
>     > TD
>     >
>     > ________________________________________
>     > From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>] on behalf of
>     Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>]
>     > Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
>     > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
>     >
>     > Thank you Tim!
>     >
>     > I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Hackspace mailing list
>     > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Hackspace mailing list
>     > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 02:12:26 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 01:12:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS16822BA2A1AF0966A06233EC6900@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS16822BA2A1AF0966A06233EC6900@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A13B0@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear David D-D,

The power supplies are quite compact, the front panel is about 150 wide
by 200 high, maybe 250 deep. A bit heavy, it would be a chore to carry 2
for any distance.

You can have your multimeters, they may need PP3 batts.

OK about a return visit next week, we can arrange with the
lab techs.

regards

Timothy Davies

________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of David Davies-Day [djdavies83 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 10 July 2015 00:16
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Hi Tim, so much movement since I read the first email when my battery died about 6 hours ago.

I can make it round for about 13:30ish I could grab a variable supply, or two.
 how heavy are they... Small/medium dog or small child?
And a multimeter or two if possible, mine keep dying/running off I to hiding.


Is there scope for a Monday, post work visit if I can carry enough tomorrow?



No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk>
Date:09/07/2015 21:28 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Dear Sharon et al,

Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.

OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
be there before me.

The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
below campus level.

I shall prime my troops to look out for you.

TD

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Thank you Tim!

I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish


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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 02:20:23 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 01:20:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <559EDFA8.1080205@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<20150709140431.194d3abf@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
	<559E794E.8000003@sucs.org>	<559E80E9.8020505@aurinia.co.uk>
	<559E8249.5010001@sucs.org>,	<559E8313.3000406@aurinia.co.uk>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A134E@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<559EDFA8.1080205@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A13CE@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Neil,

No, tomorrow is NOT the absolute last chance,
we have a few days in hand next week.

The power supplies are about 150 by 200 by 250,
and moderately heavy.

I agree the Hackerspace cannot possibly need all
the PSUs, however many enthusiasts will want one
for their home experiments.

Timothy Davies

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Neil Jones [neil at aurinia.co.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 21:55
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

On 09/07/15 21:12, Davies T. wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> The power supplies (of which there are about 24)
> are indeed variable 0-36V, with current limit 0-1A
> and separate digital meters for V and I.
>
> regards
>
> Timothy Davies

First of all, would the hackspace want/need 24 power supplies? I think
not, but please please correct me if I were to be incorrect as I would
put the good of the group
ahead here. If that is the case I MIGHT want one.

So the question is how big are they. 6ft by 6ft, 1 ft by 1ft , 6cm by 6
cm etc.
It would be really really useful to have some idea.

Also is it the case as I have been led to believe that tomorrow is the
absolute last chance?

In which case would  need to get down there tomorrow?

Neil

> ________________________________________
> From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Neil Jones [neil at aurinia.co.uk]
> Sent: 09 July 2015 15:20
> To: Swansea Hackspace
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
>
> On 09/07/15 15:16, Tim Clark wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/2015 15:10, Neil Jones wrote:
>>>   be
>>>
>>> On 09/07/15 14:38, Tim Clark wrote:
>>>> My suggestion would be components and their draws and the hand tools
>>>> depending on what exactly that includes, the other things dont sound
>>>> useful enough to justify the space they will take up.
>>>> Unfortunately I am at work tomorrow morning otherwise I would be
>>>> happy to lend a hand.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>> Those power supplies are very useful surely?
>>>
>>> I can think of lots of uses for them. They may be a bit bulky but
>>> surely we have space.
>>>
>>> Neil
>> I assumed they were fixed 36v supplies, which wont be that useful, if
>> they are variable supplies then that's a diffident matter.
>>
>> Can you be more specific about what they are Tim?
>>
>> Tim
> I assume variable since 36v is an odd figure and agrees with other
> variable power supplies
>
>
>>>
>>>> On 09/07/2015 14:04, Sharon Mitchell wrote:
>>>>> I'm available tomorrow a.m. to go fetch this, but small car:
>>>>> (a) do we want it/all.?
>>>>> (b) is anybody around/on campus to help.?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:26:35 +0000
>>>>> "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At last we have come to the crunch point in our clearance
>>>>>> of the teaching labs in the Uni. My loyal troops David and
>>>>>> Gareth have now piled all the stuff not destined for the new
>>>>>> campus onto a bench in our teaching lab room 43B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is literally the LAST OPPORTUNITY to grab some stuff.
>>>>>> I had a look at the growing heap yesterday, there was some
>>>>>> amazing stuff:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hung Chang multimeters type 7040 and 7050.
>>>>>> Farnell Power supplies with 2 meters, 36V 1A max
>>>>>> Resistance substitution boxes
>>>>>> Capacitor substitution boxes
>>>>>> Components in component drawers
>>>>>> Transistor curve tracers
>>>>>> Three HP phase meters
>>>>>> An LCR component bridge
>>>>>> Hand tools
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... in fact most of the bits you might find in a teaching lab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please come and help yourself. Early next week we have to
>>>>>> hand the lab over to contractors, who will have a more cavalier
>>>>>> attitude to the bits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can contact me by email if you want to visit the lab, or
>>>>>> if you already know where it is visit during "shop" hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Timothy Davies
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 02:25:10 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 01:25:10 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <1436474197.22277.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A127B@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>	,
	<1436450851.28234.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A1366@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<1436474197.22277.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A13DF@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Justin,

Hope that helps.

The LCR bridge and the fancy 7603 CRO
I envisage as "one off" assets for the HS.
We cannot possibly afford a scope as good
as that one. When it was new (admittedly a
long time ago) its cost was about half an
annual wage.

Timothy
________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Justin Mitchell [justin at discordia.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 21:36
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 20:25 +0000, Davies T. wrote:
> The Hung Chang meters are digital, similar to
> the first gen of Fluke meters.
>
> Yes the supplies are variable, both in V and I.
> Very neat, about the size of ... no good, my simile
> engine has failed. Have to resort to actual measurement.
>
> There is only one LCR bridge, David has set it
> aside especially for the hackers. It is a flat object,
> about the size of an expensive box of chocs (whew,
> the simile engine is working again!)
>
> There is ONE Hitachi CRO left, a bit dented.
> HOWEVER, there is a lovely Tektronix 7603
> with plug-ins which is good for 200MHz!
>
> I agree about the R and C substitution boxes,
> no use for them myself, I always get the value
> right first time.
>
> Transistor curve tracers are entertaining, but again
> not much use day to day.

Great, thanks for the update, the multimeters suddenly sound a lot more
interesting, and that tek CRO would be wonderful.
we shall be delighted to relieve you of them :)
thank you very much.




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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 10 10:34:01 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:34:01 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>

That's great thanks Tim, is it possible to swing by around 13:45 today?


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</div>
Dear David D-D,

The power supplies are quite compact, the front panel is about 150 wide
by 200 high, maybe 250 deep. A bit heavy, it would be a chore to carry 2
for any distance.

You can have your multimeters, they may need PP3 batts.

OK about a return visit next week, we can arrange with the
lab techs.

regards

Timothy Davies

________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of David Davies-Day [djdavies83 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 10 July 2015 00:16
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Hi Tim, so much movement since I read the first email when my battery died about 6 hours ago.

I can make it round for about 13:30ish I could grab a variable supply, or two.
 how heavy are they... Small/medium dog or small child?
And a multimeter or two if possible, mine keep dying/running off I to hiding.


Is there scope for a Monday, post work visit if I can carry enough tomorrow?



No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk>
Date:09/07/2015 21:28 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Dear Sharon et al,

Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.

OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
be there before me.

The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
below campus level.

I shall prime my troops to look out for you.

TD

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Thank you Tim!

I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish


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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 10 13:33:59 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:33:59 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calipers and acrylic
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS8551691C2A8DC11DEA3023C69F0@phx.gbl>

Hello, ?anyone know where the calipers are? They are not in the 3rd printer box.

What's the price in bits of acrylic??

Thanks, Dave.


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From eclipse at sucs.org  Fri Jul 10 13:36:04 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:36:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calipers and acrylic
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS8551691C2A8DC11DEA3023C69F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS8551691C2A8DC11DEA3023C69F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <559FBC34.6090406@sucs.org>

On 10/07/2015 13:33, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Hello,  anyone know where the calipers are? They are not in the 3rd 
> printer box.
In the bottom of the tool box, which is a more sensible home for them
> What's the price in bits of acrylic?
1p per gram I believe

Tim
>
> Thanks, Dave.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 10 13:41:21 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:41:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calipers and acrylic
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS1051D336FA2DF1AF36B3162C69F0@phx.gbl>

Gwion just turned and said, got then thanks, do we have scales for the acrylic?


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</div>
On 10/07/2015 13:33, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Hello,  anyone know where the calipers are? They are not in the 3rd
> printer box.
In the bottom of the tool box, which is a more sensible home for them
> What's the price in bits of acrylic?
1p per gram I believe

Tim
>
> Thanks, Dave.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Jul 10 13:44:56 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:44:56 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calipers and acrylic
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS8551691C2A8DC11DEA3023C69F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS8551691C2A8DC11DEA3023C69F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1436532296.3400.4.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 13:33 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Hello,  anyone know where the calipers are? They are not in the 3rd
> printer box.

Should be in tool box, last seen near cutter/cnc

> What's the price in bits of acrylic? 

For the random coloured offcuts stuff the 
price per gram (1p istr) is written on the box,
weighing scales over by the cnc machine

choose your piece, weigh it, write it in the 'materials' log book, and
put the money in the cashbox as usual.

For other laser cuttable materials there is a box of stuff on the top
shelf of the members box area.  Each item has its price written on the
packaging. write in materials book also.






From eclipse at sucs.org  Fri Jul 10 13:45:26 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:45:26 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Calipers and acrylic
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS1051D336FA2DF1AF36B3162C69F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS1051D336FA2DF1AF36B3162C69F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <559FBE66.5040009@sucs.org>

Yes, they were over by the solder station last I saw

Tim

P.S. can you power cycle the camera it appears to be broken

On 10/07/2015 13:41, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Gwion just turned and said, got then thanks, do we have scales for the 
> acrylic?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org>
> Date:10/07/2015 13:36 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Calipers and acrylic
>
> On 10/07/2015 13:33, David Davies-Day wrote:
>> Hello,  anyone know where the calipers are? They are not in the 3rd 
>> printer box.
> In the bottom of the tool box, which is a more sensible home for them
>> What's the price in bits of acrylic?
> 1p per gram I believe
>
> Tim
>>
>> Thanks, Dave.
>>
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 13:52:58 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:52:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear all,

So far we have had 4 visitors to the lab, and we have re-homed some of the heap.

The dented Hitachi CRO was taken away, although the plan was to give the Hackers
some better instruments. There are two classy CROs on their way down,
namely a Tektronix 468 with digital storage, and a relatively modern HP scope
with all manuals and an IEEE 488 interface card. These are destined for the Hackers.
Still a load of stuff left.
I shall chase off soon.

TD
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From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of David Davies-Day [djdavies83 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 10 July 2015 10:34
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

That's great thanks Tim, is it possible to swing by around 13:45 today?


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk>
Date:10/07/2015 02:14 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Dear David D-D,

The power supplies are quite compact, the front panel is about 150 wide
by 200 high, maybe 250 deep. A bit heavy, it would be a chore to carry 2
for any distance.

You can have your multimeters, they may need PP3 batts.

OK about a return visit next week, we can arrange with the
lab techs.

regards

Timothy Davies

________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of David Davies-Day [djdavies83 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 10 July 2015 00:16
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Hi Tim, so much movement since I read the first email when my battery died about 6 hours ago.

I can make it round for about 13:30ish I could grab a variable supply, or two.
 how heavy are they... Small/medium dog or small child?
And a multimeter or two if possible, mine keep dying/running off I to hiding.


Is there scope for a Monday, post work visit if I can carry enough tomorrow?



No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Davies T." <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk>
Date:09/07/2015 21:28 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Dear Sharon et al,

Yet another reply as I encounter the questions.

OK about being on campus 10:30 ish, you may
be there before me.

The basement lab is in Tabot Building, one floor
below campus level.

I shall prime my troops to look out for you.

TD

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk]
Sent: 09 July 2015 14:37
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Thank you Tim!

I'll aim to be on campus around 10:30-11:00ish


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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Fri Jul 10 14:30:45 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:30:45 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 12:52 +0000, Davies T. wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> So far we have had 4 visitors to the lab, and we have re-homed some of the heap.
> 
> The dented Hitachi CRO was taken away, although the plan was to give the Hackers
> some better instruments. There are two classy CROs on their way down,
> namely a Tektronix 468 with digital storage, and a relatively modern HP scope
> with all manuals and an IEEE 488 interface card. These are destined for the Hackers.
> Still a load of stuff left.
> I shall chase off soon.

If the nice CROs still haven't been collected by monday i should be able
to swing by on my way to a hospital appointment



From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Fri Jul 10 14:38:52 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:38:52 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>

Here is a photo of one of the units still there

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> On 10 Jul 2015, at 14:31, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> CROs

From sharon at geode.org.uk  Fri Jul 10 15:08:08 2015
From: sharon at geode.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:08:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

Ooh that scope wasn't there earlier, so much for the early bird!

OK, inventory currently in my house:

8 x bench PSU 
1 x LCR bridge (no chocolates, BOO!)
1 x Hitachi scope  
1 x desk fan
+ assorted resistors in drawer units

and, for some reason, a kettle lead - there's always a random kettle
lead, Universal Law[*]

If you want a PSU for home (ab)use, these will be available direct
from the space on Monday.
So far I'm aware of the following who expressed interest:
Neil, Emyr, Tim C, so that leaves 5.

- Sharon



[*] Kettle leads cannot be created or destroyed, they merely change
location in time & space by piggybacking other kit. The parasites!



From em at preseli.com  Fri Jul 10 15:20:09 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:20:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul
In-Reply-To: <20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>
	<20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NOdwMCbwX8T1NzALsrGe1dU7Ur3qPP3a35HFKwmqWkkQ@mail.gmail.com>

thank you very much Sharon - that is very much appreciated!

Emyr


On 10 July 2015 at 15:08, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at geode.org.uk> wrote:

> Ooh that scope wasn't there earlier, so much for the early bird!
>
> OK, inventory currently in my house:
>
> 8 x bench PSU
> 1 x LCR bridge (no chocolates, BOO!)
> 1 x Hitachi scope
> 1 x desk fan
> + assorted resistors in drawer units
>
> and, for some reason, a kettle lead - there's always a random kettle
> lead, Universal Law[*]
>
> If you want a PSU for home (ab)use, these will be available direct
> from the space on Monday.
> So far I'm aware of the following who expressed interest:
> Neil, Emyr, Tim C, so that leaves 5.
>
> - Sharon
>
>
>
> [*] Kettle leads cannot be created or destroyed, they merely change
> location in time & space by piggybacking other kit. The parasites!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Fri Jul 10 15:22:44 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:22:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul
In-Reply-To: <20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>
	<20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP116E99D389DC655CE7023ED8A9F0@phx.gbl>

I would like at least one PSU also. I have dropped the two scopes off at hackspace, the digital one is on ?loan? from the uni, as in it must be returned to the uni if no longer needed. 

Gwion.


> On 10 Jul 2015, at 15:08, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at geode.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Ooh that scope wasn't there earlier, so much for the early bird!
> 
> OK, inventory currently in my house:
> 
> 8 x bench PSU 
> 1 x LCR bridge (no chocolates, BOO!)
> 1 x Hitachi scope  
> 1 x desk fan
> + assorted resistors in drawer units
> 
> and, for some reason, a kettle lead - there's always a random kettle
> lead, Universal Law[*]
> 
> If you want a PSU for home (ab)use, these will be available direct
> from the space on Monday.
> So far I'm aware of the following who expressed interest:
> Neil, Emyr, Tim C, so that leaves 5.
> 
> - Sharon
> 
> 
> 
> [*] Kettle leads cannot be created or destroyed, they merely change
> location in time & space by piggybacking other kit. The parasites!
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 10 15:41:40 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:41:40 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS411EEA780D1F3DB17C5668DC69F0@phx.gbl>


Great, thanks Sharon, like Gwion, I would like 1 (or a multiple there of) of the PSU, did you seen any of the multimeters?

I was going to call by there after work around 13:45 but didn't get answer if there would have been anyone there.

Gwion said there was a couple of draw unit full of components still there?

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Sharon Mitchell <sharon at geode.org.uk> </div><div>Date:10/07/2015  15:08  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul </div><div>
</div>
Ooh that scope wasn't there earlier, so much for the early bird!

OK, inventory currently in my house:

8 x bench PSU
1 x LCR bridge (no chocolates, BOO!)
1 x Hitachi scope
1 x desk fan
+ assorted resistors in drawer units

and, for some reason, a kettle lead - there's always a random kettle
lead, Universal Law[*]

If you want a PSU for home (ab)use, these will be available direct
from the space on Monday.
So far I'm aware of the following who expressed interest:
Neil, Emyr, Tim C, so that leaves 5.

- Sharon



[*] Kettle leads cannot be created or destroyed, they merely change
location in time & space by piggybacking other kit. The parasites!

_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Jul 10 16:01:53 2015
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:01:53 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Multimeters
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS411EEA780D1F3DB17C5668DC69F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS411EEA780D1F3DB17C5668DC69F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20150710160153.25adc22c@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:41:40 +0100
David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Great, thanks Sharon, like Gwion, I would like 1 (or a multiple there
> of) of the PSU, did you seen any of the multimeters?

Yes, but no batteries in them, didn't know if working units, had push
buttons not a central dial, no probes, PP3s are more expensive than a
new multimeter...

> Gwion said there was a couple of draw unit full of components still
> there?

I only collected the resistor drawers.

HTH

- Sharon


From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 19:36:44 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:36:44 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A14D9@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Justin,

The two fancy scopes were taken by two fellow hackers
just after Sharon left. I suggest that they replace the
Hitachi scopes as they are a LOT more capable.

There is still a Tektronix 7603 scope looking for a home.

TD
________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Justin Mitchell [justin at discordia.org.uk]
Sent: 10 July 2015 14:30
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 12:52 +0000, Davies T. wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> So far we have had 4 visitors to the lab, and we have re-homed some of the heap.
>
> The dented Hitachi CRO was taken away, although the plan was to give the Hackers
> some better instruments. There are two classy CROs on their way down,
> namely a Tektronix 468 with digital storage, and a relatively modern HP scope
> with all manuals and an IEEE 488 interface card. These are destined for the Hackers.
> Still a load of stuff left.
> I shall chase off soon.

If the nice CROs still haven't been collected by monday i should be able
to swing by on my way to a hospital appointment

_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace


From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 19:39:38 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:39:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>,
	<DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A14E8@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear All,

The photo forwarded by Gwion is in fact the 7603 to which
I alluded in my previous communication. The handsome
fellow in the background is David Moody, our esteemed
Chief Tech in electrical engineering.

TD
________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Gwion Davies [gwiondavies at live.co.uk]
Sent: 10 July 2015 14:38
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Free freee free!

Here is a photo of one of the units still there



From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 19:44:18 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:44:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul
In-Reply-To: <20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <DUB406-EAS185DDCBE956456EC19456A1C69F0@phx.gbl>
	<6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A145C@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<1436535045.3400.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<DUB404-EAS28275498C9C658E91E088068A9F0@phx.gbl>,
	<20150710150808.7b95cc53@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A14F7@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear Sharon,

What a haul! Didn't you do well!

I notice you took the dented Hitachi scope.
My plan was for the hackers to have the various
posh scopes, INCLUDING a really nice HP DSO
which has seen very little use - currently with
Gwion (but destined for the Hackerspace). The other
fancy scope taken by Gwion is a much older Tek 468
which is again almost unused, and has DSO features.
The Tek 7603 was there all the time.

TD
________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Sharon Mitchell [sharon at geode.org.uk]
Sent: 10 July 2015 15:08
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul

Ooh that scope wasn't there earlier, so much for the early bird!

OK, inventory currently in my house:

8 x bench PSU
1 x LCR bridge (no chocolates, BOO!)
1 x Hitachi scope
1 x desk fan
+ assorted resistors in drawer units

and, for some reason, a kettle lead - there's always a random kettle
lead, Universal Law[*]

If you want a PSU for home (ab)use, these will be available direct
from the space on Monday.
So far I'm aware of the following who expressed interest:
Neil, Emyr, Tim C, so that leaves 5.

- Sharon



[*] Kettle leads cannot be created or destroyed, they merely change
location in time & space by piggybacking other kit. The parasites!

_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace


From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Fri Jul 10 19:47:14 2015
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:47:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS411EEA780D1F3DB17C5668DC69F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS411EEA780D1F3DB17C5668DC69F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D6672A150A@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>

Dear David,

Apologies for not replying sooner, but I did not read my emails
until lunchtime. I primed my troops to look out for you. There are
still some component drawers as I recall.

TD
________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of David Davies-Day [djdavies83 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 10 July 2015 15:41
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul


Great, thanks Sharon, like Gwion, I would like 1 (or a multiple there of) of the PSU, did you seen any of the multimeters?

I was going to call by there after work around 13:45 but didn't get answer if there would have been anyone there.

Gwion said there was a couple of draw unit full of components still there?

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: Sharon Mitchell <sharon at geode.org.uk>
Date:10/07/2015 15:08 (GMT+00:00)
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Cc:
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Engineering haul

Ooh that scope wasn't there earlier, so much for the early bird!

OK, inventory currently in my house:

8 x bench PSU
1 x LCR bridge (no chocolates, BOO!)
1 x Hitachi scope
1 x desk fan
+ assorted resistors in drawer units

and, for some reason, a kettle lead - there's always a random kettle
lead, Universal Law[*]

If you want a PSU for home (ab)use, these will be available direct
from the space on Monday.
So far I'm aware of the following who expressed interest:
Neil, Emyr, Tim C, so that leaves 5.

- Sharon



[*] Kettle leads cannot be created or destroyed, they merely change
location in time & space by piggybacking other kit. The parasites!

_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 12 09:51:20 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:51:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] My laser cut Skelecub
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS6974EC8400F735E614ACB3C69D0@phx.gbl>

Done a littlle building, learned a bit about material orientation during laser cutting.


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From em at preseli.com  Sun Jul 12 10:33:41 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:33:41 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] My laser cut Skelecub
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Awesome!

On Sunday, July 12, 2015, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Done a littlle building, learned a bit about material orientation during
> laser cutting.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Sun Jul 12 11:25:14 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:25:14 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] My laser cut Skelecub
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That looks great - well done and thanks for the pics!

Can you tell us a bit more about the project - where you got the files,
materials, etc?


On 12 July 2015 at 09:51, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Done a littlle building, learned a bit about material orientation during
> laser cutting.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 12 12:55:07 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:55:07 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] My laser cut Skelecub
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS9494845602E9FF9461ED88C69D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks know Emry, Richard...

All the source files came from this thread on RCGroups authored by user AJWOODS

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1746834

In action
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2K_FO0Mqk&feature=plcp&list=UUO5rDX076WdkJE9T9U5y5JQ&index=28


There is a zip file which contains the native CAD file and a DXF file, while its exported in mm the drawing size is 12" ? 24", .jpg of original layout attached.

 I used my CAD program of choice, draftsight (I have the install file for xp versions below sp3 if needed, with permission I'll install it on the laser cutter laptop) to separate the parts and organise them into three A4 (210?297mm) size files.

Justin and Tim helped me experiment with my material to find the best setting for speed and laser power, after a lot of help from Tim, a total wizard with inkscape (I would still love a tutorial evening on this) I was away with a set of parts. I need to tidy up a load of files on the desktop of that machine, I did save a few as the laser draw formate, just drop a sheet in, line it up, set the power and cut, after completing induction of course.

The materials used in this build are the polystyrene discs that supermarket pizzas are packed on, I had a about 5 of them saved up, in hindsight if I had also keep the film I could have used as the covering, I ended up using recycling bin bags, I know they have started to use different suppliers but the ones here are quite thin and "crinkly" sounding, with the tiny dimples/pin pricks, more details of covering are in the RED thread, a few have used bin bags, the build calls for 1mm carbon rod for stiffening the main wing, I used bamboo BBQ skewer as it's what I have.

This listing is for 4 sheets of 1000mm X 700mm X 3mm, works out at ?5 a sheet which boils down to about 50p an A4'ish sheet, so ?1.50 for the whole plane, needs about 15-20mins of laser time time.


http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=260473649279&alt=web

Another way to get the foam is to buy Posterboard from Hobby Craft and remove the card, but that ain't very easy, ask how I know?

The glue I used was UHU por, superglue just melts foam!

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=371336640081&alt=web

Can also be bought cheaper from R & R Hobbies in the shoppers walk arcade of Kingsway for ?3.49, which is where I got mine.

Banggood do a lot of spare parts for the WLToys planes they sell, for the first build I'll be using a Visa helicopter receiver,  this will give me throttle, rudder and elevator. Mine will not be as aerobatic as the one in the video above,a can cut my ailerons and add a receiver like one in the link below if I want to take it 4ch.

https://www.banggood.com/buy/Wltoys-airplane.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G

This was reasonably easy to put together, took me about 3 hours but I'm sure this time can be as little as 2 hours, I was distracted by the TV and very late in the evening.

If there is enough interest I wouldn't mind doing an evening on this plane as a glider/free flight model, maybe a followup evening for adding electronics etc.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> </div><div>Date:12/07/2015  11:26  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] My laser cut Skelecub </div><div>
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That looks great - well done and thanks for the pics!

Can you tell us a bit more about the project - where you got the files,
materials, etc?


On 12 July 2015 at 09:51, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Done a littlle building, learned a bit about material orientation during
> laser cutting.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jul 14 13:02:07 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:02:07 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Ms5kr0BkTAPnvmqWCuMwNhLwdZoLnOi2AiG72vjW77NA@mail.gmail.com>

I was quite shocked how untidy the space was last night - desk covered with
all manner of stuff, off cuts from laser cutting which should have been in
the bin, a selfie stick on the floor by the laser cutter, just a general
mess.

If you look at the webcam right now you can get an idea of the state of the
place

http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Main/Webcam

I cleared the whole place up two week ago and I was quite disappointed last
night with how quick things had deteriorated

Grumpy of Pontardawe
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 14 13:56:20 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:56:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS758F763545FB7EA3149DD6C69B0@phx.gbl>

My bad on the white foam and pink paper pieces , sorry.  I cleared them when I dropped back on my way home last night.

If I get chance to drop in on the way passed after work this week, I'll tidy up more and put the vacuum round.


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</div>
I was quite shocked how untidy the space was last night - desk covered with
all manner of stuff, off cuts from laser cutting which should have been in
the bin, a selfie stick on the floor by the laser cutter, just a general
mess.

If you look at the webcam right now you can get an idea of the state of the
place

http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Main/Webcam

I cleared the whole place up two week ago and I was quite disappointed last
night with how quick things had deteriorated

Grumpy of Pontardawe
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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Tue Jul 14 14:34:39 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:34:39 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Ms5kr0BkTAPnvmqWCuMwNhLwdZoLnOi2AiG72vjW77NA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7Ms5kr0BkTAPnvmqWCuMwNhLwdZoLnOi2AiG72vjW77NA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS3610C258E5244739D7181328A9B0@phx.gbl>

Went up to play with my faulty monitor earlier and did a bit of a tidy up of the main desks, mainly putting equipment away really. 

Gwion. 

> On 14 Jul 2015, at 13:02, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
> I was quite shocked how untidy the space was last night - desk covered with all manner of stuff, off cuts from laser cutting which should have been in the bin, a selfie stick on the floor by the laser cutter, just a general mess.
> 
> If you look at the webcam right now you can get an idea of the state of the place
> 
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Main/Webcam
> 
> I cleared the whole place up two week ago and I was quite disappointed last night with how quick things had deteriorated
> 
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 14 17:08:53 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:08:53 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS11123F567678F46A4D4D09DC69B0@phx.gbl>

Nice one Gwion,  looks good.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> </div><div>Date:14/07/2015  14:35  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter </div><div>
</div>
Went up to play with my faulty monitor earlier and did a bit of a tidy up of the main desks, mainly putting equipment away really.

Gwion.

> On 14 Jul 2015, at 13:02, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> I was quite shocked how untidy the space was last night - desk covered with all manner of stuff, off cuts from laser cutting which should have been in the bin, a selfie stick on the floor by the laser cutter, just a general mess.
>
> If you look at the webcam right now you can get an idea of the state of the place
>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Main/Webcam
>
> I cleared the whole place up two week ago and I was quite disappointed last night with how quick things had deteriorated
>
> Grumpy of Pontardawe
> --
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jul 14 17:22:09 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS11123F567678F46A4D4D09DC69B0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS11123F567678F46A4D4D09DC69B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P2rLUCYsOdYWXaWAj3-7LMghsU37r_x=SPt55d3MNnOg@mail.gmail.com>

:-) ;-p

On 14 July 2015 at 17:08, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Nice one Gwion,  looks good.
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk>
> Date:14/07/2015 14:35 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] clutter
>
>  Went up to play with my faulty monitor earlier and did a bit of a tidy
> up of the main desks, mainly putting equipment away really.
>
> Gwion.
>
> On 14 Jul 2015, at 13:02, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>    I was quite shocked how untidy the space was last night - desk covered
> with all manner of stuff, off cuts from laser cutting which should have
> been in the bin, a selfie stick on the floor by the laser cutter, just a
> general mess.
>
>  If you look at the webcam right now you can get an idea of the state of
> the place
>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Main/Webcam
>
>  I cleared the whole place up two week ago and I was quite disappointed
> last night with how quick things had deteriorated
>
>  Grumpy of Pontardawe
> --
>    This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Jul 17 15:32:09 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:32:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Volunteers Required sat 1st aug
Message-ID: <1437143529.26498.49.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

We need some volunteers for the weekend of 1st august to move furniture
and equipment down a few floors to our new room.

I am running the rubber stamping workshop on that day, officially from
12 til 4, i would really like to be able to run that downstairs as there
will be a lot more space for everyone to sit. That means getting a few
of the folding tables, the chairs, and the laser cutter down there
beforehand.

We can move the rest of the stuff afterwards for those that are booked
onto the workshop, or even concurrently for those that are not. there is
more than enough space for moving to happen in the background.

I will be there from about 11am on the saturday to get everything
sorted, and expect to be there until late. I am also available on the
sunday if needed, but hopefully everyones keyfobs will have been
switched over by then.

Donations of additional comfy seating, sofas, etc also welcome :)





From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 18 18:14:41 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 18:14:41 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Skelecub got crushed
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS8379EA1FE45392DF922F59C6870@phx.gbl>

With the van by making it a blind corner,? a neighbour ran over the skelecub, I only fitted the motor yesreday, the RC was being fitted tomorrow.

Skelecub is no more: https://youtu.be/nLyy_9cZoNU

Front wheel got the tail and the back wheel got the nose, I almost escaped with the motor gearbox intact, ?I might salvage a replacement from an older RTP plane that I'll probably never fly again.?


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From eclipse at sucs.org  Mon Jul 20 14:10:31 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Volunteers Required sat 1st aug
In-Reply-To: <1437143529.26498.49.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1437143529.26498.49.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <55ACF347.7030809@sucs.org>

On 17/07/2015 15:32, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> We need some volunteers for the weekend of 1st august to move furniture
> and equipment down a few floors to our new room.
Wooo new bigger room!

I shall be around all day to help
> I am running the rubber stamping workshop on that day, officially from
> 12 til 4, i would really like to be able to run that downstairs as there
> will be a lot more space for everyone to sit. That means getting a few
> of the folding tables, the chairs, and the laser cutter down there
> beforehand.
Shouldn't take too long to get a minimal setup working, hope people dont 
mind sitting on the stools ;)
> We can move the rest of the stuff afterwards for those that are booked
> onto the workshop, or even concurrently for those that are not. there is
> more than enough space for moving to happen in the background.
>
> I will be there from about 11am on the saturday to get everything
> sorted, and expect to be there until late. I am also available on the
> sunday if needed, but hopefully everyones keyfobs will have been
> switched over by then.
Crosses fingers for a seamless keyfob transfer
> Donations of additional comfy seating, sofas, etc also welcome :)
Great news!

Tim
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jul 20 14:13:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:13:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] antifreeze
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MzyMJqj+h8cEUOcrV5E9GrqUKhe6uEgc4ixVpaO7yKoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tim,
I've remembered to put the antifreeze in the boot of my car - hope I
remember to bring it in with me later.

E

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jul 20 14:21:38 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:21:38 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Volunteers Required sat 1st aug
In-Reply-To: <55ACF347.7030809@sucs.org>
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	<55ACF347.7030809@sucs.org>
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I'll be down - I can be there earlier than 11am, let me know who's in from
what time and I'll drive down from Bridgend.

I'm hoping to sit in on Tim's rubber stamping workshop too and see the
laser cutter doing it's 'thang'.

Can't wait to see the new space. :-)

On 20 July 2015 at 14:10, Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org> wrote:

> On 17/07/2015 15:32, Justin Mitchell wrote:
>
>> We need some volunteers for the weekend of 1st august to move furniture
>> and equipment down a few floors to our new room.
>>
> Wooo new bigger room!
>
> I shall be around all day to help
>
>> I am running the rubber stamping workshop on that day, officially from
>> 12 til 4, i would really like to be able to run that downstairs as there
>> will be a lot more space for everyone to sit. That means getting a few
>> of the folding tables, the chairs, and the laser cutter down there
>> beforehand.
>>
> Shouldn't take too long to get a minimal setup working, hope people dont
> mind sitting on the stools ;)
>
>> We can move the rest of the stuff afterwards for those that are booked
>> onto the workshop, or even concurrently for those that are not. there is
>> more than enough space for moving to happen in the background.
>>
>> I will be there from about 11am on the saturday to get everything
>> sorted, and expect to be there until late. I am also available on the
>> sunday if needed, but hopefully everyones keyfobs will have been
>> switched over by then.
>>
> Crosses fingers for a seamless keyfob transfer
>
>> Donations of additional comfy seating, sofas, etc also welcome :)
>>
> Great news!
>
> Tim
>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Mon Jul 20 16:37:15 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:37:15 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] This evenings meeting
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS3973560E71AC460D6EE4C938A850@phx.gbl>

Was wondering if anyone would be able to give me a lift to the fforest fach area at the end of tonights social meeting? Would be very grateful. 

Gwion. 




From em at preseli.com  Mon Jul 20 16:58:33 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:58:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] This evenings meeting
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS3973560E71AC460D6EE4C938A850@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB404-EAS3973560E71AC460D6EE4C938A850@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OqpqBCsXuzpaHLso+HN1JVVVBGYZOHjmD-p2BodPhDHA@mail.gmail.com>

not sure if I can face it this week

If I am there and you are desperate for a lift home I am sure I can divert
to give you a lift.
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 17:31:22 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:31:22 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] This evenings meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7OqpqBCsXuzpaHLso+HN1JVVVBGYZOHjmD-p2BodPhDHA@mail.gmail.com>
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Assuming I can get there,
I can take you back..

Other Half has gone out with kids,
She should be back in time for me to go to Hackers.



Ceri

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> not sure if I can face it this week
>
> If I am there and you are desperate for a lift home I am sure I can divert
> to give you a lift.
>
>
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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Mon Jul 20 18:15:33 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:15:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] This evenings meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-CWuiLkvHZe3V-QY3n0OE6+cA9kx6vTx3n3=KEo72z0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB404-EAS3973560E71AC460D6EE4C938A850@phx.gbl>
	<CAGAFX7OqpqBCsXuzpaHLso+HN1JVVVBGYZOHjmD-p2BodPhDHA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn-CWuiLkvHZe3V-QY3n0OE6+cA9kx6vTx3n3=KEo72z0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS104E27A07B9C121C7032C448A850@phx.gbl>

Thanks. Unfortunately I'm not feeling to good so will no longer be attending this evening. 
Will hopefully see you all next week. 

Cheers
Gwion. 



> On 20 Jul 2015, at 17:31, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Assuming I can get there,
> I can take you back..
> 
> Other Half has gone out with kids,
> She should be back in time for me to go to Hackers.
> 
> 
> 
> Ceri
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>> not sure if I can face it this week
>> 
>> If I am there and you are desperate for a lift home I am sure I can divert to give you a lift.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 22 13:53:29 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:53:29 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Any need white tissue paper
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS413F4AF5E9D31BE6766FC0FC6830@phx.gbl>

Just won a fairly large amount, after I've set aside what I need, I'll donate the rest to the space, I'll leave it to the directors to price it up.


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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Wed Jul 22 19:39:51 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:39:51 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Saturday
Message-ID: <CANSRvvCvv3xp0zJwgOoiLv6-y9OKfupr08G3vcu8rJpmXz9vmw@mail.gmail.com>

What time are people getting into the space on Saturday morning?

Just figuring what's the earliest time to rock-up...
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jul 22 20:41:20 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:41:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Saturday
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvCvv3xp0zJwgOoiLv6-y9OKfupr08G3vcu8rJpmXz9vmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvCvv3xp0zJwgOoiLv6-y9OKfupr08G3vcu8rJpmXz9vmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PWRRQq-gx=H16FLD_g45806zg+uwBpN=65nn6KqOh98g@mail.gmail.com>

Saturday or week Saturday?

On Wednesday, 22 July 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> What time are people getting into the space on Saturday morning?
>
> Just figuring what's the earliest time to rock-up...
>
>

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jul 22 21:08:07 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:08:07 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Saturday
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvCvv3xp0zJwgOoiLv6-y9OKfupr08G3vcu8rJpmXz9vmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvCvv3xp0zJwgOoiLv6-y9OKfupr08G3vcu8rJpmXz9vmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1437595687.12560.11.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Wed, 2015-07-22 at 19:39 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote:
> What time are people getting into the space on Saturday morning? 
Just to be clear, this is a week saturday, 1st aug

> Just figuring what's the earliest time to rock-up...

earliest i can get there is about 11ish, i have to drop the kids off
first. my keyfob should still work on the 1st floor, but hopefully they
will have sorted everyone elses out by then too, so i dont know if
anyone else has plans to start earlier. sharon has a couple of trolleys
she will bring that will help with moving the heavier items.

my priority will be to move down enough stuff to run my workshop
starting at 12, after that i dont mind what order the rest gets moved :)





From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 22 21:22:31 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:22:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Saturday
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS354CDD26A469EE5C0D6318BC6830@phx.gbl>

I had thought it was this Saturday but um pretty sure it's Saturday the 1st for the move.


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Saturday or week Saturday?

On Wednesday, 22 July 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> What time are people getting into the space on Saturday morning?
>
> Just figuring what's the earliest time to rock-up...
>
>

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Wed Jul 22 22:15:09 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:15:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Saturday
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS354CDD26A469EE5C0D6318BC6830@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS354CDD26A469EE5C0D6318BC6830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvC_AhuboCtb6ZfV=FXiYgK8xW+eZyiCdZXyJZMDqkTnKA@mail.gmail.com>

Gearing up for next Saturday (not this) - bit longer to wait :-)

On 22 July 2015 at 21:22, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I had thought it was this Saturday but um pretty sure it's Saturday the
> 1st for the move.
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:22/07/2015 20:42 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Saturday
>
>  Saturday or week Saturday?
>
> On Wednesday, 22 July 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> What time are people getting into the space on Saturday morning?
>
>  Just figuring what's the earliest time to rock-up...
>
>
>
> --
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From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 10:58:05 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:58:05 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
Message-ID: <CAERuT1-wU_KM+jsFc1OZF7YAtftEweZcbR-AgxuwZtr4tR9h2w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

This is my wife's sewing machine

She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it. Would
it be something you might want?

It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should be
good quality.
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Jul 23 11:03:36 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:03:36 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
In-Reply-To: <CAERuT1-wU_KM+jsFc1OZF7YAtftEweZcbR-AgxuwZtr4tR9h2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAERuT1-wU_KM+jsFc1OZF7YAtftEweZcbR-AgxuwZtr4tR9h2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7M7BGEbj59P1JrVikXsG-fpgaRThVDCUecqhPj43WqAeA@mail.gmail.com>

It would be loved and cherished I am sure! LOL

how kind of her!

E

On 23 July 2015 at 10:58, David Rankin <rankin.dc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> This is my wife's sewing machine
>
> She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it. Would
> it be something you might want?
>
> It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should be
> good quality.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Jul 23 11:38:54 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:38:54 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
In-Reply-To: <CAERuT1-wU_KM+jsFc1OZF7YAtftEweZcbR-AgxuwZtr4tR9h2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAERuT1-wU_KM+jsFc1OZF7YAtftEweZcbR-AgxuwZtr4tR9h2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1437647934.4854.17.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 10:58 +0100, David Rankin wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> This is my wife's sewing machine 
> 
> She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it.
> Would it be something you might want?
> 
> It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should
> be good quality.

Yes please, a sewing machine would be wonderful, sharon has left hers
there for periods in the past, but its home again at the moment, so one
that will live there, even if just on loan, would be great.

This is probably a good point to ask if anyone has ideas and suggestions
for how we should organise the space, for the moment at least we have
that whole big room, so we should make the most of it.

My thoughts so far were to have the noisy machines and storage in the
little officey room. have the comfy seating down the other end by the
kitchenette. we should also have a sewing station setup near that end
for the good light there.

then theres the solder station, we can put the component stores with
that, as well as the newly improved (thanks dr. tim) collection of PSUs,
CROs etc.

we should try and fix up the various donated computers and have a
section of workstations, as theres often contention for the single one
we currently have which is going to need to stay with the cnc.

I really feel that our future involves encouraging more artistic and
craft based activities, there is a lot of scope for interaction between
art and electronics, craft and technology, and a bigger brighter more
welcoming space will certainly help there.

This is our chance to "Go Big" to build the place to be everything we
always wanted, and push like crazy to grow the membership to justify the
space that our generous sponsors Techub are providing us with.

Please throw your ideas in the hat and lets see what we can build
together.




From em at preseli.com  Thu Jul 23 11:52:01 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:52:01 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
In-Reply-To: <1437647934.4854.17.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CAERuT1-wU_KM+jsFc1OZF7YAtftEweZcbR-AgxuwZtr4tR9h2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1437647934.4854.17.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OoP+7AavWpjBNmbSv=8ot2kvCGyatY=ZEp3Jbmt+9StQ@mail.gmail.com>

all of these are excellent ideas!

It would be good to have space around the machines to allow us to work on
them with ease and also so things are not on top of each other. I have felt
that the CNC has been inaccessible for a few months now since the soldering
station and the laser cutter ended up pretty much on top of it. I have been
painfully aware that the repair needs to be finished on the stepper motor
but there has been no way with my bad back I could stretch over it for the
time it would take to solder / crimp etc. especially with people working so
near by on the other kit.

A book shelf by the seating area would be sweet too

Em

On 23 July 2015 at 11:38, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 10:58 +0100, David Rankin wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > This is my wife's sewing machine
> >
> > She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it.
> > Would it be something you might want?
> >
> > It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should
> > be good quality.
>
> Yes please, a sewing machine would be wonderful, sharon has left hers
> there for periods in the past, but its home again at the moment, so one
> that will live there, even if just on loan, would be great.
>
> This is probably a good point to ask if anyone has ideas and suggestions
> for how we should organise the space, for the moment at least we have
> that whole big room, so we should make the most of it.
>
> My thoughts so far were to have the noisy machines and storage in the
> little officey room. have the comfy seating down the other end by the
> kitchenette. we should also have a sewing station setup near that end
> for the good light there.
>
> then theres the solder station, we can put the component stores with
> that, as well as the newly improved (thanks dr. tim) collection of PSUs,
> CROs etc.
>
> we should try and fix up the various donated computers and have a
> section of workstations, as theres often contention for the single one
> we currently have which is going to need to stay with the cnc.
>
> I really feel that our future involves encouraging more artistic and
> craft based activities, there is a lot of scope for interaction between
> art and electronics, craft and technology, and a bigger brighter more
> welcoming space will certainly help there.
>
> This is our chance to "Go Big" to build the place to be everything we
> always wanted, and push like crazy to grow the membership to justify the
> space that our generous sponsors Techub are providing us with.
>
> Please throw your ideas in the hat and lets see what we can build
> together.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 12:56:32 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:56:32 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
Message-ID: <CAERuT1-Ly8xajDQDdcau+4N5TMhHqHBCR04mqYtZnrzc8TAKbA@mail.gmail.com>

Wife convinced,

I can bring it in next week, or if some one wants it earlier, get in touch
to arrange picking it up.

Might need UK plug.
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> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
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> It would be loved and cherished I am sure! LOL
>
> how kind of her!
>
> E
>
> On 23 July 2015 at 10:58, David Rankin <rankin.dc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > This is my wife's sewing machine
> >
> > She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it. Would
> > it be something you might want?
> >
> > It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should be
> > good quality.
> >
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> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:38:54 +0100
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
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> On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 10:58 +0100, David Rankin wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > This is my wife's sewing machine
> >
> > She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it.
> > Would it be something you might want?
> >
> > It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should
> > be good quality.
>
> Yes please, a sewing machine would be wonderful, sharon has left hers
> there for periods in the past, but its home again at the moment, so one
> that will live there, even if just on loan, would be great.
>
> This is probably a good point to ask if anyone has ideas and suggestions
> for how we should organise the space, for the moment at least we have
> that whole big room, so we should make the most of it.
>
> My thoughts so far were to have the noisy machines and storage in the
> little officey room. have the comfy seating down the other end by the
> kitchenette. we should also have a sewing station setup near that end
> for the good light there.
>
> then theres the solder station, we can put the component stores with
> that, as well as the newly improved (thanks dr. tim) collection of PSUs,
> CROs etc.
>
> we should try and fix up the various donated computers and have a
> section of workstations, as theres often contention for the single one
> we currently have which is going to need to stay with the cnc.
>
> I really feel that our future involves encouraging more artistic and
> craft based activities, there is a lot of scope for interaction between
> art and electronics, craft and technology, and a bigger brighter more
> welcoming space will certainly help there.
>
> This is our chance to "Go Big" to build the place to be everything we
> always wanted, and push like crazy to grow the membership to justify the
> space that our generous sponsors Techub are providing us with.
>
> Please throw your ideas in the hat and lets see what we can build
> together.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:52:01 +0100
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing machine
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> all of these are excellent ideas!
>
> It would be good to have space around the machines to allow us to work on
> them with ease and also so things are not on top of each other. I have felt
> that the CNC has been inaccessible for a few months now since the soldering
> station and the laser cutter ended up pretty much on top of it. I have been
> painfully aware that the repair needs to be finished on the stepper motor
> but there has been no way with my bad back I could stretch over it for the
> time it would take to solder / crimp etc. especially with people working so
> near by on the other kit.
>
> A book shelf by the seating area would be sweet too
>
> Em
>
> On 23 July 2015 at 11:38, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 10:58 +0100, David Rankin wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > This is my wife's sewing machine
> > >
> > > She hardlyng uses it , and I think I can convince her to donate it.
> > > Would it be something you might want?
> > >
> > > It's in good nick, a tchibo TCM 24 stitch and German made, so should
> > > be good quality.
> >
> > Yes please, a sewing machine would be wonderful, sharon has left hers
> > there for periods in the past, but its home again at the moment, so one
> > that will live there, even if just on loan, would be great.
> >
> > This is probably a good point to ask if anyone has ideas and suggestions
> > for how we should organise the space, for the moment at least we have
> > that whole big room, so we should make the most of it.
> >
> > My thoughts so far were to have the noisy machines and storage in the
> > little officey room. have the comfy seating down the other end by the
> > kitchenette. we should also have a sewing station setup near that end
> > for the good light there.
> >
> > then theres the solder station, we can put the component stores with
> > that, as well as the newly improved (thanks dr. tim) collection of PSUs,
> > CROs etc.
> >
> > we should try and fix up the various donated computers and have a
> > section of workstations, as theres often contention for the single one
> > we currently have which is going to need to stay with the cnc.
> >
> > I really feel that our future involves encouraging more artistic and
> > craft based activities, there is a lot of scope for interaction between
> > art and electronics, craft and technology, and a bigger brighter more
> > welcoming space will certainly help there.
> >
> > This is our chance to "Go Big" to build the place to be everything we
> > always wanted, and push like crazy to grow the membership to justify the
> > space that our generous sponsors Techub are providing us with.
> >
> > Please throw your ideas in the hat and lets see what we can build
> > together.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 14:59:53 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:59:53 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Stuff. .
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I have a reasonable microscope.
With fairly hi magnification.
To add to the collection.
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Sat Jul 25 10:40:33 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:40:33 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
Message-ID: <CANSRvvAv958Z_A5dXG5FUvJ4e00rq4kS8wv9QXt454MevgKh_A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how to
code.

I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is down)
and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not right for
Max at 8yrs old.

For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him? Ideally
something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?

All help gratefully received,

Richard
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From em at preseli.com  Sat Jul 25 11:17:51 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:17:51 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
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get him the lego mindstorms set from Lego

that will give him good real world examples of coding

first there is the fun of construction, then there is adding code and
seeing something physical react to the code.

then, add sensors and you get interaction

Scratch is really good. Some junior schools teach scratch, so it will be
something he will be able to use later.

I have scratch on my macs, it is easy to install and use on mac and PC and
don't forget the Raspberry Pi!

You have the added bonus on the Pi that again you can use scratch to
control motors and interact with sensors.

The first programming Osian did was with the Lego Mindstorms when he was
about 5... I bought him a new set for Christmas one year, and within a
month we had bought a cheep second hand set off ebay. It is well worth
keeping an eye at car boots and ebay for mindstorms, you can get a bargain!

Emyr

On 25 July 2015 at 10:40, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi All,
> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how to
> code.
>
> I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is down)
> and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not right for
> Max at 8yrs old.
>
> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him? Ideally
> something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
>
> All help gratefully received,
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Sat Jul 25 12:09:19 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:09:19 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
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Magic - thanks Emyr.

I'll try again with installing Scratch. He loves Lego, but Mindstorm is
quite an investment once you start down that road.

Anyone else had good experiences?

On 25 July 2015 at 11:17, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> get him the lego mindstorms set from Lego
>
> that will give him good real world examples of coding
>
> first there is the fun of construction, then there is adding code and
> seeing something physical react to the code.
>
> then, add sensors and you get interaction
>
> Scratch is really good. Some junior schools teach scratch, so it will be
> something he will be able to use later.
>
> I have scratch on my macs, it is easy to install and use on mac and PC and
> don't forget the Raspberry Pi!
>
> You have the added bonus on the Pi that again you can use scratch to
> control motors and interact with sensors.
>
> The first programming Osian did was with the Lego Mindstorms when he was
> about 5... I bought him a new set for Christmas one year, and within a
> month we had bought a cheep second hand set off ebay. It is well worth
> keeping an eye at car boots and ebay for mindstorms, you can get a bargain!
>
> Emyr
>
> On 25 July 2015 at 10:40, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how to
>> code.
>>
>> I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is down)
>> and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not right for
>> Max at 8yrs old.
>>
>> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him? Ideally
>> something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
>>
>> All help gratefully received,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Sat Jul 25 12:18:43 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:18:43 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:40:33 +0000
Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how to
> code.

What does he want to create. What is going to make him sneak off all the
time to play with it a bit more ? When does he have time he will
want to be fiddling with this and what will be to hand when he does ? Does
he want to be sharing with friends, if so what are they doing and what is
"cool" in his circle.

Giving an Arduino to someone who wants to write web games isn't going to
work (and vice versa).

> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him? Ideally
> something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?

UK goverment has just blown a huge amount of money re-inventing the wheel
to produce a new different incompatible with everything in the real world
"BBC" computer project. However you can't yet buy one or get access to
the mbed based development environment for it, although that is supposed
to change.

On the bright side I don't think any choice you make now will matter in
five years time. Stuff in just about everything but the desktop space is
changing so fast.

Alan


From em at preseli.com  Sat Jul 25 17:58:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:58:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvA1k-BmkP=Xp2uqRXiPnwsWusG1YjwHpckO3XxM-biZ_w@mail.gmail.com>
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Mindstorms is a one off investment. And they can be found second hand on
eBay quite cheaply. It does not have to be a huge expense

On Saturday, July 25, 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Magic - thanks Emyr.
>
> I'll try again with installing Scratch. He loves Lego, but Mindstorm is
> quite an investment once you start down that road.
>
> Anyone else had good experiences?
>
> On 25 July 2015 at 11:17, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
>> get him the lego mindstorms set from Lego
>>
>> that will give him good real world examples of coding
>>
>> first there is the fun of construction, then there is adding code and
>> seeing something physical react to the code.
>>
>> then, add sensors and you get interaction
>>
>> Scratch is really good. Some junior schools teach scratch, so it will be
>> something he will be able to use later.
>>
>> I have scratch on my macs, it is easy to install and use on mac and PC
>> and don't forget the Raspberry Pi!
>>
>> You have the added bonus on the Pi that again you can use scratch to
>> control motors and interact with sensors.
>>
>> The first programming Osian did was with the Lego Mindstorms when he was
>> about 5... I bought him a new set for Christmas one year, and within a
>> month we had bought a cheep second hand set off ebay. It is well worth
>> keeping an eye at car boots and ebay for mindstorms, you can get a bargain!
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> On 25 July 2015 at 10:40, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how to
>>> code.
>>>
>>> I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is down)
>>> and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not right for
>>> Max at 8yrs old.
>>>
>>> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him? Ideally
>>> something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
>>>
>>> All help gratefully received,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
> Richard
>


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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sun Jul 26 11:18:09 2015
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:18:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
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Hey Richard, 

Urge to throw my 2c worth in, so here goes..

> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how
> to code.

Great news!

> I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is
> down) and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not
> right for Max at 8yrs old.
> 
> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him?
> Ideally something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?

If you want to EDUCATE your son and get across the CONCEPT of coding (as
opposed "here's this particular tool, I am going to TRAIN you to use
THIS tool" you can do a lot worse than plain old LEGO, graph paper and
pencils..Hear me out :)

What is code.? It's simply a collection of explicit instructions given
in a particular order executed upon certain conditions.

"LEGO blind builds" and "graph-paper programming" are a great primer for
this concept.  A tutor-student pair act as "computer" and
"programmer" in turn.  The "programmers" job is to describe a LEGO
structure / pixelated graph paper picture to the "computer" who
builds / shades what has just been described (the "computer" is "blind"
remember).

You'd be surprised how often these simple describe-copy creations go
wrong! But it's a great way to get across the importance of there being:

1) zero room for ambiguity in your instruction
2) ordering of instruction has importance
3) some ops are conditional on earlier ops (the blue 4x4 only goes on
if the red 6x2 is in place for example)

I don't believe you need to throw (expensive) resources at the problem
of "getting kids to code"* what I have described would work as well in
an outdoor classroom with no electricity as it does here in the UK.

Sorting and searching can be covered with a "structure" of kids (OK,
you'd need more kids for that, I'm sure someone will let you
borrow.? :) )  Have them line up into a 1D array, make them into a
FILO, whatever :)

These activities are great for those that learn in a different style
(proprioception as opposed verbal/linguistic learners but I'm
digressing here).

So, yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is don't get too immersed in
what tool to use to deliver this material.  You'll find you already
have what you need at home right now.

HTH

- Sharon

* tbh I don't believe the answer to _any_ problem is to throw more
  resources at it, that way an arms race starts :)





> 
> All help gratefully received,
> 
> Richard



From paul at harwood-leon.com  Sun Jul 26 11:57:57 2015
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:57:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
In-Reply-To: <20150726111809.2d86c567@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <CANSRvvAv958Z_A5dXG5FUvJ4e00rq4kS8wv9QXt454MevgKh_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150726111809.2d86c567@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <88A9BD3B-5D4B-4779-89D0-D5FFB955F5FD@harwood-leon.com>

Sharon,

I absolutely love the simplicity of this idea and think that workshops around this would be really fun and accessible.

I know this is a bit OT but could we/hackspace put on some workshops like this at TechHub? I think it would be really well attended too. People bring kids and lego to learn how to code!

:)

? Paul


> On 26 Jul 2015, at 11:18, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hey Richard, 
> 
> Urge to throw my 2c worth in, so here goes..
> 
>> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how
>> to code.
> 
> Great news!
> 
>> I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is
>> down) and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not
>> right for Max at 8yrs old.
>> 
>> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him?
>> Ideally something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
> 
> If you want to EDUCATE your son and get across the CONCEPT of coding (as
> opposed "here's this particular tool, I am going to TRAIN you to use
> THIS tool" you can do a lot worse than plain old LEGO, graph paper and
> pencils..Hear me out :)
> 
> What is code.? It's simply a collection of explicit instructions given
> in a particular order executed upon certain conditions.
> 
> "LEGO blind builds" and "graph-paper programming" are a great primer for
> this concept.  A tutor-student pair act as "computer" and
> "programmer" in turn.  The "programmers" job is to describe a LEGO
> structure / pixelated graph paper picture to the "computer" who
> builds / shades what has just been described (the "computer" is "blind"
> remember).
> 
> You'd be surprised how often these simple describe-copy creations go
> wrong! But it's a great way to get across the importance of there being:
> 
> 1) zero room for ambiguity in your instruction
> 2) ordering of instruction has importance
> 3) some ops are conditional on earlier ops (the blue 4x4 only goes on
> if the red 6x2 is in place for example)
> 
> I don't believe you need to throw (expensive) resources at the problem
> of "getting kids to code"* what I have described would work as well in
> an outdoor classroom with no electricity as it does here in the UK.
> 
> Sorting and searching can be covered with a "structure" of kids (OK,
> you'd need more kids for that, I'm sure someone will let you
> borrow.? :) )  Have them line up into a 1D array, make them into a
> FILO, whatever :)
> 
> These activities are great for those that learn in a different style
> (proprioception as opposed verbal/linguistic learners but I'm
> digressing here).
> 
> So, yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is don't get too immersed in
> what tool to use to deliver this material.  You'll find you already
> have what you need at home right now.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Sharon
> 
> * tbh I don't believe the answer to _any_ problem is to throw more
>  resources at it, that way an arms race starts :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> All help gratefully received,
>> 
>> Richard
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Sun Jul 26 12:28:36 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
In-Reply-To: <20150726111809.2d86c567@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
References: <CANSRvvAv958Z_A5dXG5FUvJ4e00rq4kS8wv9QXt454MevgKh_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150726111809.2d86c567@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvCc1Xa-X2EXbc29aLor22HQmTR53b1P=80eAeH=Cy8ZHA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Sharon,
Very good point and a great idea, so much so that I've now gone to
https://code.org/learn and found their 'unplugged' pages.

It's the 'educating' I'm after for Max to understand the principles that
underpin coding skills as a foundation. I learned by jumping in and
tinkering with existing code off the web, and as such I know 'a bit' but
can't class myself as a coder. For Max's age these days I see coding as a
key skill to have under your belt because it opens up so many possibilities.

Appreciate you taking the time to respond. I think our weekends are going
to be busy :-)

Thanks for all the comments everyone.

On 26 July 2015 at 11:18, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> Hey Richard,
>
> Urge to throw my 2c worth in, so here goes..
>
> > I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how
> > to code.
>
> Great news!
>
> > I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is
> > down) and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not
> > right for Max at 8yrs old.
> >
> > For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him?
> > Ideally something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
>
> If you want to EDUCATE your son and get across the CONCEPT of coding (as
> opposed "here's this particular tool, I am going to TRAIN you to use
> THIS tool" you can do a lot worse than plain old LEGO, graph paper and
> pencils..Hear me out :)
>
> What is code.? It's simply a collection of explicit instructions given
> in a particular order executed upon certain conditions.
>
> "LEGO blind builds" and "graph-paper programming" are a great primer for
> this concept.  A tutor-student pair act as "computer" and
> "programmer" in turn.  The "programmers" job is to describe a LEGO
> structure / pixelated graph paper picture to the "computer" who
> builds / shades what has just been described (the "computer" is "blind"
> remember).
>
> You'd be surprised how often these simple describe-copy creations go
> wrong! But it's a great way to get across the importance of there being:
>
> 1) zero room for ambiguity in your instruction
> 2) ordering of instruction has importance
> 3) some ops are conditional on earlier ops (the blue 4x4 only goes on
> if the red 6x2 is in place for example)
>
> I don't believe you need to throw (expensive) resources at the problem
> of "getting kids to code"* what I have described would work as well in
> an outdoor classroom with no electricity as it does here in the UK.
>
> Sorting and searching can be covered with a "structure" of kids (OK,
> you'd need more kids for that, I'm sure someone will let you
> borrow.? :) )  Have them line up into a 1D array, make them into a
> FILO, whatever :)
>
> These activities are great for those that learn in a different style
> (proprioception as opposed verbal/linguistic learners but I'm
> digressing here).
>
> So, yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is don't get too immersed in
> what tool to use to deliver this material.  You'll find you already
> have what you need at home right now.
>
> HTH
>
> - Sharon
>
> * tbh I don't believe the answer to _any_ problem is to throw more
>   resources at it, that way an arms race starts :)
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > All help gratefully received,
> >
> > Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



-- 
Kind regards,

Richard
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 26 13:04:44 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:04:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS14381722E676177DA255C54C68F0@phx.gbl>

I gave to say, I am very interested in this concept.

I would definitely bring Lily alone to one of these.

As a sort of related topic, for a summer holidays project, I want to build a chronometer with Lily  (7 years) to display how fast she can kick a football (she has had fasted shot in the class 3 years in a row and got a little upset that she almost didn't get it this year, proud Dad section finished).

I want to get her as involved as possible in code and hardware, thinking of using piezo to pick up the spikes of kicking the ball to it hitting the fence/target, IR may work for the trigger but not sure if it would catch for the end hit.

Any ideas or help on this would be cool, not intension of a Hijack Richard, I think we're looking for the same answer.


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</div>
Sharon,

I absolutely love the simplicity of this idea and think that workshops around this would be really fun and accessible.

I know this is a bit OT but could we/hackspace put on some workshops like this at TechHub? I think it would be really well attended too. People bring kids and lego to learn how to code!

:)

? Paul


> On 26 Jul 2015, at 11:18, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hey Richard,
>
> Urge to throw my 2c worth in, so here goes..
>
>> I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how
>> to code.
>
> Great news!
>
>> I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is
>> down) and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not
>> right for Max at 8yrs old.
>>
>> For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him?
>> Ideally something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
>
> If you want to EDUCATE your son and get across the CONCEPT of coding (as
> opposed "here's this particular tool, I am going to TRAIN you to use
> THIS tool" you can do a lot worse than plain old LEGO, graph paper and
> pencils..Hear me out :)
>
> What is code.? It's simply a collection of explicit instructions given
> in a particular order executed upon certain conditions.
>
> "LEGO blind builds" and "graph-paper programming" are a great primer for
> this concept.  A tutor-student pair act as "computer" and
> "programmer" in turn.  The "programmers" job is to describe a LEGO
> structure / pixelated graph paper picture to the "computer" who
> builds / shades what has just been described (the "computer" is "blind"
> remember).
>
> You'd be surprised how often these simple describe-copy creations go
> wrong! But it's a great way to get across the importance of there being:
>
> 1) zero room for ambiguity in your instruction
> 2) ordering of instruction has importance
> 3) some ops are conditional on earlier ops (the blue 4x4 only goes on
> if the red 6x2 is in place for example)
>
> I don't believe you need to throw (expensive) resources at the problem
> of "getting kids to code"* what I have described would work as well in
> an outdoor classroom with no electricity as it does here in the UK.
>
> Sorting and searching can be covered with a "structure" of kids (OK,
> you'd need more kids for that, I'm sure someone will let you
> borrow.? :) )  Have them line up into a 1D array, make them into a
> FILO, whatever :)
>
> These activities are great for those that learn in a different style
> (proprioception as opposed verbal/linguistic learners but I'm
> digressing here).
>
> So, yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is don't get too immersed in
> what tool to use to deliver this material.  You'll find you already
> have what you need at home right now.
>
> HTH
>
> - Sharon
>
> * tbh I don't believe the answer to _any_ problem is to throw more
>  resources at it, that way an arms race starts :)
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> All help gratefully received,
>>
>> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 26 13:16:31 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:16:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS2982317CDFACA50B7BEB042C68F0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the unplugged links Richard, I'll check them out, as Paul said, workshop on this unplugged programming would be great as a kids tutorial for the space this holidays.


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</div>
Thanks Sharon,
Very good point and a great idea, so much so that I've now gone to
https://code.org/learn and found their 'unplugged' pages.

It's the 'educating' I'm after for Max to understand the principles that
underpin coding skills as a foundation. I learned by jumping in and
tinkering with existing code off the web, and as such I know 'a bit' but
can't class myself as a coder. For Max's age these days I see coding as a
key skill to have under your belt because it opens up so many possibilities.

Appreciate you taking the time to respond. I think our weekends are going
to be busy :-)

Thanks for all the comments everyone.

On 26 July 2015 at 11:18, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> Hey Richard,
>
> Urge to throw my 2c worth in, so here goes..
>
> > I have been looking at coding tools to help teach my 8yr old son how
> > to code.
>
> Great news!
>
> > I've looked at Scratch (can't get it to install on Mac and site is
> > down) and Tynker (paid US offering), code-Cade,y I have used but not
> > right for Max at 8yrs old.
> >
> > For UK are there better resources that I can use to educate him?
> > Ideally something that will align with School if possible - any ideas?
>
> If you want to EDUCATE your son and get across the CONCEPT of coding (as
> opposed "here's this particular tool, I am going to TRAIN you to use
> THIS tool" you can do a lot worse than plain old LEGO, graph paper and
> pencils..Hear me out :)
>
> What is code.? It's simply a collection of explicit instructions given
> in a particular order executed upon certain conditions.
>
> "LEGO blind builds" and "graph-paper programming" are a great primer for
> this concept.  A tutor-student pair act as "computer" and
> "programmer" in turn.  The "programmers" job is to describe a LEGO
> structure / pixelated graph paper picture to the "computer" who
> builds / shades what has just been described (the "computer" is "blind"
> remember).
>
> You'd be surprised how often these simple describe-copy creations go
> wrong! But it's a great way to get across the importance of there being:
>
> 1) zero room for ambiguity in your instruction
> 2) ordering of instruction has importance
> 3) some ops are conditional on earlier ops (the blue 4x4 only goes on
> if the red 6x2 is in place for example)
>
> I don't believe you need to throw (expensive) resources at the problem
> of "getting kids to code"* what I have described would work as well in
> an outdoor classroom with no electricity as it does here in the UK.
>
> Sorting and searching can be covered with a "structure" of kids (OK,
> you'd need more kids for that, I'm sure someone will let you
> borrow.? :) )  Have them line up into a 1D array, make them into a
> FILO, whatever :)
>
> These activities are great for those that learn in a different style
> (proprioception as opposed verbal/linguistic learners but I'm
> digressing here).
>
> So, yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is don't get too immersed in
> what tool to use to deliver this material.  You'll find you already
> have what you need at home right now.
>
> HTH
>
> - Sharon
>
> * tbh I don't believe the answer to _any_ problem is to throw more
>   resources at it, that way an arms race starts :)
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > All help gratefully received,
> >
> > Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



--
Kind regards,

Richard
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From sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sun Jul 26 22:16:31 2015
From: sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Sharon Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 22:16:31 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
In-Reply-To: <88A9BD3B-5D4B-4779-89D0-D5FFB955F5FD@harwood-leon.com>
References: <CANSRvvAv958Z_A5dXG5FUvJ4e00rq4kS8wv9QXt454MevgKh_A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:57:57 +0100
Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> I know this is a bit OT but could we/hackspace put on some workshops
> like this at TechHub? I think it would be really well attended too.
> People bring kids and lego to learn how to code!

Not at all, I think this is a great partnering idea.

Someone (David.?) mentioned this school holidays; tbh I'm too tightly
scheduled to do that -- How about we work towards a Saturday
workshop in October to coincide with EU code week.? 10-18th.

http://events.codeweek.eu/

Nothing in Wales YET! :)

- Sharon


From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 26 23:42:09 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 23:42:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS24035BF82AA5A814117348BC68F0@phx.gbl>

It was me, October sounds good, plenty of time to for a structure and publicise it with schools/what's on guide etc.

Following a link (I think it was Richard) posted to the Thinkersmith guides I downloaded and read through the cup stacking "My Robot Friend" activity, it makes perfect sense. Would be a good start to an activity group.

For older kids we could go into coding a "Robot Friend" (parent) to build lego, as you mentioned earlier, we could attempt to style the "code" similar to openscad,  maybe hitch an openscad tutorial on for the following week to develop interest, as it wouldn't be a much of a bigger step, it would have potential to pull parents in as members, even if their child does not take to coding.


Just for fun (with some embedded code learning) the children could program their parent/guardian as a printer...

https://youtu.be/4e3fi_ls8CA

Or a little more colourful but along the same lines...

https://youtu.be/QiHddbgJcRM





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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Date:26/07/2015  22:17  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code </div><div>
</div>
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:57:57 +0100
Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> I know this is a bit OT but could we/hackspace put on some workshops
> like this at TechHub? I think it would be really well attended too.
> People bring kids and lego to learn how to code!

Not at all, I think this is a great partnering idea.

Someone (David.?) mentioned this school holidays; tbh I'm too tightly
scheduled to do that -- How about we work towards a Saturday
workshop in October to coincide with EU code week.? 10-18th.

http://events.codeweek.eu/

Nothing in Wales YET! :)

- Sharon
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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Mon Jul 27 01:01:11 2015
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:01:11 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
In-Reply-To: <20150726221631.3c18eb5e@picobox.apathetic.discordia.org.uk>
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October sounds doable?

I have started a trello board to record the discussions (I have to port over our tech challenges one too Gerrit, Justin and Tom, I haven?t forgotten it - just needs resurrecting)

https://trello.com/b/ckpzyCay/teaching-children-to-code <https://trello.com/b/ckpzyCay/teaching-children-to-code>

(FYI) For us trello boards are a good way of publicly working stuff out. It?s used widely in the organisation to quickly record tasks and events. It?s probably simpler for us to use this as a way to communicate with Hackspace because then we don?t have to context switch. 

We can involve our Community Manager here for publicity too. We have a new lady starting on the 3rd of August, but Phil (cc?ed in) is hanging around for a good while as an organiser, so please bug him with any questions you have or any events coming up. 

We can put together a good package to support this event, put on some food and maybe even a few prizes like a few Raspberry Pi?s for the winning team. It would be great PR for both organisations and exactly the kind of thing that would lend itself to a big space.

:)

 ? Paul



> On 26 Jul 2015, at 22:16, Sharon Mitchell <sharon at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:57:57 +0100
> Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
> 
>> I know this is a bit OT but could we/hackspace put on some workshops
>> like this at TechHub? I think it would be really well attended too.
>> People bring kids and lego to learn how to code!
> 
> Not at all, I think this is a great partnering idea.
> 
> Someone (David.?) mentioned this school holidays; tbh I'm too tightly
> scheduled to do that -- How about we work towards a Saturday
> workshop in October to coincide with EU code week.? 10-18th.
> 
> http://events.codeweek.eu/
> 
> Nothing in Wales YET! :)
> 
> - Sharon
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Mon Jul 27 01:01:53 2015
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:01:53 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS24035BF82AA5A814117348BC68F0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS24035BF82AA5A814117348BC68F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B7E5F914-5D6F-4A0F-9581-956BB28156BB@harwood-leon.com>

Sounds perfect!

> On 26 Jul 2015, at 23:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Following a link (I think it was Richard) posted to the Thinkersmith guides I downloaded and read through the cup stacking "My Robot Friend" activity, it makes perfect sense. Would be a good start to an activity group.
> 
> For older kids we could go into coding a "Robot Friend" (parent) to build lego, as you mentioned earlier, we could attempt to style the "code" similar to openscad,  maybe hitch an openscad tutorial on for the following week to develop interest, as it wouldn't be a much of a bigger step, it would have potential to pull parents in as members, even if their child does not take to coding.

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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Mon Jul 27 01:02:44 2015
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:02:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Teaching Children to Code
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Yes. I am fearful of giving my kids another way of controlling me though.

:)

> On 26 Jul 2015, at 23:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> Just for fun (with some embedded code learning) the children could program their parent/guardian as a printer...
> 
> https://youtu.be/4e3fi_ls8CA <https://youtu.be/4e3fi_ls8CA>
> 
> Or a little more colourful but along the same lines...
> 
> https://youtu.be/QiHddbgJcRM <https://youtu.be/QiHddbgJcRM>

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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 31 13:08:52 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:08:52 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Equipment move
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On my way in to use the laser, hopefully be able to make it in to give a hand tomorrow, is there anything I can move today?


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