From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 06:36:15 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 06:36:15 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] RS485
In-Reply-To: <289d96b6-aad6-4466-a77f-cc0d193fd434@email.android.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-As1c-QWQhuJr5HZuAckp=im5zto8WXn_xH0FDpbgjQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<289d96b6-aad6-4466-a77f-cc0d193fd434@email.android.com>
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Yes please.
If you can bring them along tonight
I will bring what I have made so far

Cheers
Ceri
On 31 May 2015 20:40, "Justin Mitchell" <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

> Found SCMAX485CPA and SCLTC485CN8 of they are of any use to you
>
> On 26 May 2015 7:36 am, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks guys. .
> > Would appreciate that.
> > I will make an adapter in anticipation. .
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ceri
> >
> > On 25 May 2015 21:27, "Justin Mitchell" <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2015-05-25 at 17:53 +0100, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> >> > Hi does anyone have a RS485 to USB
> >> > Or RS485 to RS232
> >> >
> >> > I Can borrow for a day or two.
> >> > Got a new bit of kit.
> >> > But can't get my PC to communicate with
> >> > It.
> >>
> >> Think i have some MAX485 chips somewhere, but thats about it.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun  1 14:27:42 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:27:42 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter progress
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do we have any dates for moving yet? I guess we will need all people on the
pumps that day

E

On 31 May 2015 at 20:35, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 10:04 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>
>
> > Can you put a link to the 'voting' page on the site for the courses -
> > might be user error but I can't find it...
>
> Front page, top right corner where the 'next meeting' link usually is.
>
> Also on the upcoming meetings page where the future meetings aren't.
>
>
> Someone really should get on and actually arrange one soon, but there is
> hesitation to do anything before the impending move.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Mon Jun  1 14:39:55 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:39:55 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter progress
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Just asked the office manager Alayne. We won't know until the partition is made. It shouldn't be too long now, they are just finalising plans. 

Gwion.

> On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:28, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
> 
> do we have any dates for moving yet? I guess we will need all people on the pumps that day
> 
> E
> 
>> On 31 May 2015 at 20:35, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 10:04 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > Can you put a link to the 'voting' page on the site for the courses -
>> > might be user error but I can't find it...
>> 
>> Front page, top right corner where the 'next meeting' link usually is.
>> 
>> Also on the upcoming meetings page where the future meetings aren't.
>> 
>> 
>> Someone really should get on and actually arrange one soon, but there is
>> hesitation to do anything before the impending move.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> 
> 
> 
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 15:32:18 2015
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 15:32:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter progress
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS434DB6847808B76A73FECDD8AB60@phx.gbl>
References: <1432642227.6184.16.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CANSRvvAzOVTmLupJSMT-CjFJ8wbgAwkzjsqWzFVqghq9t92NdQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1433100941.17613.4.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
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Are you moving within the same building ?

Tim_1

On 1 June 2015 at 14:39, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> wrote:

> Just asked the office manager Alayne. We won't know until the partition is
> made. It shouldn't be too long now, they are just finalising plans.
>
> Gwion.
>
> On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:28, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> do we have any dates for moving yet? I guess we will need all people on
> the pumps that day
>
> E
>
> On 31 May 2015 at 20:35, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 10:04 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Can you put a link to the 'voting' page on the site for the courses -
>> > might be user error but I can't find it...
>>
>> Front page, top right corner where the 'next meeting' link usually is.
>>
>> Also on the upcoming meetings page where the future meetings aren't.
>>
>>
>> Someone really should get on and actually arrange one soon, but there is
>> hesitation to do anything before the impending move.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Mon Jun  1 15:34:16 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 15:34:16 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter progress
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References: <1432642227.6184.16.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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Yes we are just moving to the second floor but that won't be for a while again. 

Gwion

> On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:32, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you moving within the same building ?
> 
> Tim_1
> 
>> On 1 June 2015 at 14:39, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> wrote:
>> Just asked the office manager Alayne. We won't know until the partition is made. It shouldn't be too long now, they are just finalising plans. 
>> 
>> Gwion.
>> 
>>> On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:28, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> do we have any dates for moving yet? I guess we will need all people on the pumps that day
>>> 
>>> E
>>> 
>>>> On 31 May 2015 at 20:35, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 10:04 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > Can you put a link to the 'voting' page on the site for the courses -
>>>> > might be user error but I can't find it...
>>>> 
>>>> Front page, top right corner where the 'next meeting' link usually is.
>>>> 
>>>> Also on the upcoming meetings page where the future meetings aren't.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Someone really should get on and actually arrange one soon, but there is
>>>> hesitation to do anything before the impending move.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
>>>  
>>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jun  1 15:39:19 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:39:19 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter progress
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Yes, there is a grand reorganisation going on within Tech Hub at the
moment, and we are being moved down a couple of floors to a space that
will better fit our needs whilst giving us much better exposure and will
allow for easier co-operation with other groups within the building. 

 On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 15:32 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:
> Are you moving within the same building ?
> 
> 
> Tim_1
> 
> 
> On 1 June 2015 at 14:39, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> wrote:
>         Just asked the office manager Alayne. We won't know until the
>         partition is made. It shouldn't be too long now, they are just
>         finalising plans. 
>         
>         Gwion.
>         
>         On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:28, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>         
>         
>         > do we have any dates for moving yet? I guess we will need
>         > all people on the pumps that day
>         > 
>         > 
>         > E
>         > 
>         > 
>         > On 31 May 2015 at 20:35, Justin Mitchell
>         > <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>         >         On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 10:04 +0000, Richard Morgan
>         >         wrote:
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         > Can you put a link to the 'voting' page on the
>         >         site for the courses -
>         >         > might be user error but I can't find it...
>         >         
>         >         Front page, top right corner where the 'next
>         >         meeting' link usually is.
>         >         
>         >         Also on the upcoming meetings page where the future
>         >         meetings aren't.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         Someone really should get on and actually arrange
>         >         one soon, but there is
>         >         hesitation to do anything before the impending move.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         _______________________________________________
>         >         Hackspace mailing list
>         >         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         >         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>         >         
>         > 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > -- 
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>         > confidential and intended solely for the use of the
>         > individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
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>         > Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef
>         > yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y
>         > cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
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From timmydavie at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 16:05:58 2015
From: timmydavie at gmail.com (Timmy Davie)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:05:58 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] First Time
Message-ID: <CAMF77op_S4VFN-r+rinu7N85uZkBDf3xJUg4pXBQjSmSp0yZeg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I'd like to attend the hackspace. I'm just wondering when might be the best
time\where is it\is there anything I'd need to know (or bring) on my part?

Thanks,
James
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jun  1 16:16:38 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:16:38 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] First Time
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On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 16:05 +0100, Timmy Davie wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'd like to attend the hackspace. I'm just wondering when might be the
> best time\where is it\is there anything I'd need to know (or bring) on
> my part?

Monday nights, there is always someone there from 7pm, sometimes
earlier.

Directions on how to find us and how to get in are on the website
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Main/Location

Nothing you need to know or bring, just come along and see whats going
on, its a unstructured social and tinkering session.




From shrug123 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  1 17:05:49 2015
From: shrug123 at hotmail.com (ioan hill)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:05:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Looking for EL wire
Message-ID: <DUB123-W60D428FFD4F158480CF0E84B60@phx.gbl>

Hello

I'm looking for some electroluminescent wire. I know where to buy online, however I might not be able to wait for the delivery (needed tonight or tomorrow). I was wondering if anyone knew somewhere that sells it locally, or possibly if the person who did the workshop on EL wire recently would have some and be willing to sell some?

Thanks,

Ioan Hill
 		 	   		  
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jun  1 17:32:46 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 17:32:46 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Looking for EL wire
In-Reply-To: <DUB123-W60D428FFD4F158480CF0E84B60@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB123-W60D428FFD4F158480CF0E84B60@phx.gbl>
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On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 16:05 +0000, ioan hill wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I'm looking for some electroluminescent wire. I know where to buy
> online, however I might not be able to wait for the delivery (needed
> tonight or tomorrow). I was wondering if anyone knew somewhere that
> sells it locally, or possibly if the person who did the workshop on EL
> wire recently would have some and be willing to sell some?

I don't know of anywhere local that sells it, tbh i've never looked,
maybe a club wear shop like blue banana, i dunno.

i only have a 5m roll of orange el wire + battery box, cost of ?7 if
your desperate.





From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 10:25:13 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:25:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Flow sensor
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-JAkLnkgxWvwUuTG-0eCM3aEzH=GtWk0rSMFq6Y2_4CA@mail.gmail.com>

I have the flow sensor working,

Red / Blue,
and relay switching,

did not get Purple-Violet,

as suspected, the internal and external diode were wrong way around,

rotated relay through 180, lifted diode.

Ceri
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  2 10:38:04 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:38:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Flow sensor
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS22410D24D0BBF7A1691A0A3C6B50@phx.gbl>

Nice one, wish I could be there rather than in work.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:02/06/2015  10:25  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>,Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org>,Hackers <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Flow sensor </div><div>
</div>
I have the flow sensor working,

Red / Blue,
and relay switching,

did not get Purple-Violet,

as suspected, the internal and external diode were wrong way around,

rotated relay through 180, lifted diode.

Ceri
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From eclipse at sucs.org  Tue Jun  2 10:42:17 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 10:42:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Flow sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-JAkLnkgxWvwUuTG-0eCM3aEzH=GtWk0rSMFq6Y2_4CA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO=DJn-JAkLnkgxWvwUuTG-0eCM3aEzH=GtWk0rSMFq6Y2_4CA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556D7A79.3000305@sucs.org>

Excellent, that should be good enough for us to install it. As that is 
the last critical interlock we should be able to run the induction 
workshop and get members using it RealSoonNow?.
The purple-violet issue is most probably a software issue on the chip, 
but none of us who have looked at the code can see what it is.

Tim

On 02/06/2015 10:25, Ceri Clatworthy wrote:
> I have the flow sensor working,
>
> Red / Blue,
> and relay switching,
>
> did not get Purple-Violet,
>
> as suspected, the internal and external diode were wrong way around,
>
> rotated relay through 180, lifted diode.
>
> Ceri

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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 16:46:08 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
Message-ID: <CAPqi54DjgStY_dCu5fQczvsyj4CTn2KQBgxJYNPHrFcVN3VWCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the hackspace
website (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can
be done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
with PyCAM.

Why can't I seem to find a CAM application with a decent user interface
that's still being supported and actively developed? Kokopelli (
http://www.mattkeeter.com/projects/kokopelli/) looked promising, but it has
now been superseded by Antimony (
http://www.mattkeeter.com/projects/antimony/3/) that does not have CAM
support yet.

Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?

Cheers,
Gerrit
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jun  2 16:58:09 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:58:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
In-Reply-To: <CAPqi54DjgStY_dCu5fQczvsyj4CTn2KQBgxJYNPHrFcVN3VWCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPqi54DjgStY_dCu5fQczvsyj4CTn2KQBgxJYNPHrFcVN3VWCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1433260689.7683.6.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:46 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:

> What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the
> hackspace website
> (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can be
> done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
> with PyCAM. 

Heeks or PyCAM were the best ones we found that could do profiling.

> Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
The harder the material the slower you have to go, i think technically
you could do aluminium with it if you have the right bits.

For profiling you will need some round/ball nose end mills, which i do
not think we have any of, all ours are square/flat nose. a few different
sizes if you want to get it done in a reasonable time too.





From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  2 20:02:13 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 20:02:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS191709CAA1E97461FCB6E33C6B50@phx.gbl>

Ive watched a few of these Ny CNC videos, always quality informatiom.

https://youtu.be/-8upDZVgxfc

There is a 30 day demo of sprutcam...

http://www.sprutcamamerica.com/

No idea what the cost is, hopefully, for now at least, the 30 day demo will help you get the results your looking for.



No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Date:02/06/2015  16:58  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling? </div><div>
</div>
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:46 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:

> What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the
> hackspace website
> (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can be
> done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
> with PyCAM.

Heeks or PyCAM were the best ones we found that could do profiling.

> Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
The harder the material the slower you have to go, i think technically
you could do aluminium with it if you have the right bits.

For profiling you will need some round/ball nose end mills, which i do
not think we have any of, all ours are square/flat nose. a few different
sizes if you want to get it done in a reasonable time too.



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From eclipse at sucs.org  Wed Jun  3 09:28:36 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
In-Reply-To: <CAPqi54DjgStY_dCu5fQczvsyj4CTn2KQBgxJYNPHrFcVN3VWCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPqi54DjgStY_dCu5fQczvsyj4CTn2KQBgxJYNPHrFcVN3VWCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556EBAB4.5050802@sucs.org>

On 02/06/2015 16:46, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the 
> hackspace website 
> (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can be 
> done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same 
> with PyCAM.
Heeks is under light development and maintenance, they do update it 
every few months and fix issues. PyCAM is more powerful than Heeks and 
uses fancier algorithms to produce better 3d milling, however I've never 
managed to make it work reliably without crashing.
> Why can't I seem to find a CAM application with a decent user 
> interface that's still being supported and actively developed? 
> Kokopelli (http://www.mattkeeter.com/projects/kokopelli/) looked 
> promising, but it has now been superseded by Antimony 
> (http://www.mattkeeter.com/projects/antimony/3/) that does not have 
> CAM support yet.
>
> Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
Yes, although you probably want big bits/a slow feed rate.

Tim
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit


From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 12:28:43 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:28:43 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS191709CAA1E97461FCB6E33C6B50@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS191709CAA1E97461FCB6E33C6B50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <75B8BE37-04DF-4CBA-B37D-E03758DEF301@gmail.com>

Dave: Thanks for the link to the Youtube videos, they?re now on my to-watch list. I should probably have mentioned that I?m specifically looking for decent open-source software - for closed-source stuff I?d probably use Fusion 360.

Tim/Justin: I tried generating the toolpaths using the demo model loaded on PyCAM - it took 6 hours on my Ubuntu box (but at least didn?t crash). I wish Heeks had a better UI.

Suggestions for buying end mills - eBay?


> On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:02, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ive watched a few of these Ny CNC videos, always quality informatiom.
> 
> https://youtu.be/-8upDZVgxfc
> 
> There is a 30 day demo of sprutcam...
> 
> http://www.sprutcamamerica.com/
> 
> No idea what the cost is, hopefully, for now at least, the 30 day demo will help you get the results your looking for.
> 
> 
> 
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Date:02/06/2015 16:58 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
> 
> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:46 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
> 
> > What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the
> > hackspace website
> > (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter>), IIRC it can be
> > done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
> > with PyCAM. 
> 
> Heeks or PyCAM were the best ones we found that could do profiling.
> 
> > Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
> The harder the material the slower you have to go, i think technically
> you could do aluminium with it if you have the right bits.
> 
> For profiling you will need some round/ball nose end mills, which i do
> not think we have any of, all ours are square/flat nose. a few different
> sizes if you want to get it done in a reasonable time too.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From eclipse at sucs.org  Wed Jun  3 12:39:00 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:39:00 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
In-Reply-To: <75B8BE37-04DF-4CBA-B37D-E03758DEF301@gmail.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS191709CAA1E97461FCB6E33C6B50@phx.gbl>
	<75B8BE37-04DF-4CBA-B37D-E03758DEF301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556EE754.6030905@sucs.org>

On 03/06/2015 12:28, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
> Dave: Thanks for the link to the Youtube videos, they?re now on my 
> to-watch list. I should probably have mentioned that I?m specifically 
> looking for decent open-source software - for closed-source stuff I?d 
> probably use Fusion 360.
I came across a different video from them a few days ago and did similar.
PyCAM is supposed to offer that level of features, but is very slow and 
crashey when you want to be that fancy, it uses ungodly amounts of ram.
> Tim/Justin: I tried generating the toolpaths using the demo model 
> loaded on PyCAM - it took 6 hours on my Ubuntu box (but at least 
> didn?t crash). I wish Heeks had a better UI.
The Heeks UI really is its downfall, I have generated 3D gcode in Heeks 
before though so I can show you how to do it if you want. The other 
disadvantage is is that it doesn't do multi passes, although you can to 
a certain extend get similar results with a bit of work and setting abusing.
>
> Suggestions for buying end mills - eBay?
My 6mm, 1mm and 0.5mm ones came from aliexpress

Tim
>
>
>> On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:02, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ive watched a few of these Ny CNC videos, always quality informatiom.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/-8upDZVgxfc
>>
>> There is a 30 day demo of sprutcam...
>>
>> http://www.sprutcamamerica.com/
>>
>> No idea what the cost is, hopefully, for now at least, the 30 day 
>> demo will help you get the results your looking for.
>>
>>
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk 
>> <mailto:justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
>> Date:02/06/2015 16:58 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk 
>> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
>>
>> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:46 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>>
>> > What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the
>> > hackspace website
>> > (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can be
>> > done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
>> > with PyCAM.
>>
>> Heeks or PyCAM were the best ones we found that could do profiling.
>>
>> > Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
>> The harder the material the slower you have to go, i think technically
>> you could do aluminium with it if you have the right bits.
>>
>> For profiling you will need some round/ball nose end mills, which i do
>> not think we have any of, all ours are square/flat nose. a few different
>> sizes if you want to get it done in a reasonable time too.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk 
>> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk 
>> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun  3 13:41:40 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:41:40 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
In-Reply-To: <556EE754.6030905@sucs.org>
References: <DUB406-EAS191709CAA1E97461FCB6E33C6B50@phx.gbl>
	<75B8BE37-04DF-4CBA-B37D-E03758DEF301@gmail.com>
	<556EE754.6030905@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MJHnHmi+mp7EWfADG85k-EP_ibOUOKviaK5aEVEW8MjA@mail.gmail.com>

I sourced mine from Amazon, from china, a bit slow

On 3 June 2015 at 12:39, Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org> wrote:

>  On 03/06/2015 12:28, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>
> Dave: Thanks for the link to the Youtube videos, they?re now on my
> to-watch list. I should probably have mentioned that I?m specifically
> looking for decent open-source software - for closed-source stuff I?d
> probably use Fusion 360.
>
> I came across a different video from them a few days ago and did similar.
> PyCAM is supposed to offer that level of features, but is very slow and
> crashey when you want to be that fancy, it uses ungodly amounts of ram.
>
>  Tim/Justin: I tried generating the toolpaths using the demo model loaded
> on PyCAM - it took 6 hours on my Ubuntu box (but at least didn?t crash). I
> wish Heeks had a better UI.
>
> The Heeks UI really is its downfall, I have generated 3D gcode in Heeks
> before though so I can show you how to do it if you want. The other
> disadvantage is is that it doesn't do multi passes, although you can to a
> certain extend get similar results with a bit of work and setting abusing.
>
>
>  Suggestions for buying end mills - eBay?
>
> My 6mm, 1mm and 0.5mm ones came from aliexpress
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>    On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:02, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Ive watched a few of these Ny CNC videos, always quality informatiom.
>
>  https://youtu.be/-8upDZVgxfc
>
>  There is a 30 day demo of sprutcam...
>
>  http://www.sprutcamamerica.com/
>
>  No idea what the cost is, hopefully, for now at least, the 30 day demo
> will help you get the results your looking for.
>
>
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Date:02/06/2015 16:58 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
>
>  On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:46 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>
> > What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the
> > hackspace website
> > (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can be
> > done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
> > with PyCAM.
>
> Heeks or PyCAM were the best ones we found that could do profiling.
>
> > Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
> The harder the material the slower you have to go, i think technically
> you could do aluminium with it if you have the right bits.
>
> For profiling you will need some round/ball nose end mills, which i do
> not think we have any of, all ours are square/flat nose. a few different
> sizes if you want to get it done in a reasonable time too.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>   _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 16:00:54 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 16:00:54 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] help with tempreture sensor (100kelvin to
	350kelvin)
Message-ID: <CAERuT1-KNLBBWQGFPezU30nPoFMNWOWZO5aseugE9i5AtGJq6w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Carey,

Sorry it has taken a while to reply. I have just been managed to
source a box of dry ice! Ceri, when would you be around to try it out?

Anyone else want to put a device in dry ice and see what happens?

David


From grahamowensuk at googlemail.com  Fri Jun  5 17:21:55 2015
From: grahamowensuk at googlemail.com (Graham Owens)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:21:55 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MJHnHmi+mp7EWfADG85k-EP_ibOUOKviaK5aEVEW8MjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS191709CAA1E97461FCB6E33C6B50@phx.gbl>
	<75B8BE37-04DF-4CBA-B37D-E03758DEF301@gmail.com>
	<556EE754.6030905@sucs.org>
	<CAGAFX7MJHnHmi+mp7EWfADG85k-EP_ibOUOKviaK5aEVEW8MjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqsN4Ttrw07_cU1AF9PJdC0LO8kUukNn_cV28ZwyVNHcFT1Kg@mail.gmail.com>

Hardwoods done on the CNC at the hackspace, OAK and something that looks
like mahogany (but probably isnt) but deffo hardwoods

[image: Inline images 1]
G

On 3 June 2015 at 13:41, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I sourced mine from Amazon, from china, a bit slow
>
> On 3 June 2015 at 12:39, Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org> wrote:
>
>>  On 03/06/2015 12:28, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>>
>> Dave: Thanks for the link to the Youtube videos, they?re now on my
>> to-watch list. I should probably have mentioned that I?m specifically
>> looking for decent open-source software - for closed-source stuff I?d
>> probably use Fusion 360.
>>
>> I came across a different video from them a few days ago and did similar.
>> PyCAM is supposed to offer that level of features, but is very slow and
>> crashey when you want to be that fancy, it uses ungodly amounts of ram.
>>
>>  Tim/Justin: I tried generating the toolpaths using the demo model
>> loaded on PyCAM - it took 6 hours on my Ubuntu box (but at least didn?t
>> crash). I wish Heeks had a better UI.
>>
>> The Heeks UI really is its downfall, I have generated 3D gcode in Heeks
>> before though so I can show you how to do it if you want. The other
>> disadvantage is is that it doesn't do multi passes, although you can to a
>> certain extend get similar results with a bit of work and setting abusing.
>>
>>
>>  Suggestions for buying end mills - eBay?
>>
>> My 6mm, 1mm and 0.5mm ones came from aliexpress
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>    On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:02, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Ive watched a few of these Ny CNC videos, always quality informatiom.
>>
>>  https://youtu.be/-8upDZVgxfc
>>
>>  There is a 30 day demo of sprutcam...
>>
>>  http://www.sprutcamamerica.com/
>>
>>  No idea what the cost is, hopefully, for now at least, the 30 day demo
>> will help you get the results your looking for.
>>
>>
>>
>>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Date:02/06/2015 16:58 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] 3D CNC milling?
>>
>>  On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:46 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>>
>> > What can I use to mill 3D shapes on the CNC mill? Looking at the
>> > hackspace website
>> > (http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/CNCRouter), IIRC it can be
>> > done using HeeksCNC, but it's not supported or developed anymore. Same
>> > with PyCAM.
>>
>> Heeks or PyCAM were the best ones we found that could do profiling.
>>
>> > Oh, and can I mill hardwood (e.g. walnut or cherry) with our CNC mill?
>> The harder the material the slower you have to go, i think technically
>> you could do aluminium with it if you have the right bits.
>>
>> For profiling you will need some round/ball nose end mills, which i do
>> not think we have any of, all ours are square/flat nose. a few different
>> sizes if you want to get it done in a reasonable time too.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jun  8 16:36:23 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:36:23 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
Message-ID: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
Given we have several 'Likes' for a number of offered workshops, when are
we likely to set dates for some please?

Looks like GUI Python and GIT are in the lead with 7 and 6 Likes.

Also, the Laser Cutter ones are highly 'Liked', so an indication as to when
we think they may get a date would be helpful too.

-- 
Many thanks,

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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  8 19:46:33 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:46:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS145DCC711D9A6ABF37A3525C6BF0@phx.gbl>

+1 on this, depending on how far ahead they are set we may be able to get them listed in the "What's On" Swansea guide,  I can find out when the cut off for the next guide is if necessary.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

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Hi All,
Given we have several 'Likes' for a number of offered workshops, when are
we likely to set dates for some please?

Looks like GUI Python and GIT are in the lead with 7 and 6 Likes.

Also, the Laser Cutter ones are highly 'Liked', so an indication as to when
we think they may get a date would be helpful too.

--
Many thanks,

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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  9 06:53:30 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:53:30 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Gwion, Ceri, some links, sorry for delay.
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS20801B561D8FC8D0056B4AEC6BE0@phx.gbl>

Hey Gwion, Ceri, not forgot about you....

All; this is the sub-tenner, quad I was talking about last night, I have one on the way as a gift for my father and I'll be ordering one for myself soon.

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-H8-Mini-Headless-Mode-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-975808.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G



Ceri; 4 ch flysky reciver

http://www.banggood.com/WLtoys-F949-Airplane-Spare-Parts-Receiver-Board-p-959681.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G
Note, for a brushless motor to work with this you would need to flash the brushless ESC with something like BLheli so that it accepts motor frequency PWM rather than the traditional servo PWM.

460mm foam glider for conversion
http://www.banggood.com/Sonicmodell-EPP-480MM-Wingspan-Hand-Launch-Free-Fly-Glider-p-970936.html

Link to a build log of similar re conversion in the forum at bottom of page.

250 ish sized motor, props and escape combo, big enough for above plane.
http://www.banggood.com/SimonK-10A-ESCRCX-1804-2400KV-Motor-Gemfan-5030-Propeller-For-QAV250-p-937534.html


Gwion;  L939 car.
http://www.banggood.com/Wltoys-L939-2_4GHz-5-Channel-High-speed-Remote-Control-RC-Car-p-81755.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G

Note, I could go halves with you on this as you only need the electronics, my car need new everything but electronics.

Here's a link to the 1:87 coach I built, info on the FkySky compatible GT2 transmitter set from HobbyKing


Both;  flysky transmitters
http://www.banggood.com/WLtoys-F949-Airplane-Spare-Parts-Receiver-Board-p-959681.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G

http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-FlySky-Upgrade-FS-TH9X-FS-TH9XB-2_4G-9CH-RC-Remote-Control-Transmitter-Mode-2-p-47904.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G
Note, this is a very flexible and hacker friendly transmitter,  loads of custom firmware available.

http://www.banggood.com/Flysky-FS-T6-V2-2_4GHz-6CH-Transmitter-For-V959-Syma-X1-Mode-2-p-73199.html?p=JS3018075348201208!G
Note, almost as good as above.




No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> </div><div>Date:01/06/2015  15:34  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter progress </div><div>
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Yes we are just moving to the second floor but that won't be for a while again.

Gwion

> On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:32, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are you moving within the same building ?
>
> Tim_1
>
>> On 1 June 2015 at 14:39, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> wrote:
>> Just asked the office manager Alayne. We won't know until the partition is made. It shouldn't be too long now, they are just finalising plans.
>>
>> Gwion.
>>
>>> On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:28, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> do we have any dates for moving yet? I guess we will need all people on the pumps that day
>>>
>>> E
>>>
>>>> On 31 May 2015 at 20:35, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 10:04 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Can you put a link to the 'voting' page on the site for the courses -
>>>> > might be user error but I can't find it...
>>>>
>>>> Front page, top right corner where the 'next meeting' link usually is.
>>>>
>>>> Also on the upcoming meetings page where the future meetings aren't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone really should get on and actually arrange one soon, but there is
>>>> hesitation to do anything before the impending move.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From mark at qtrac.eu  Tue Jun  9 09:01:12 2015
From: mark at qtrac.eu (Mark Summerfield)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 09:01:12 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150609090112.29fb7d41@dino>

Hi,

On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:36:23 +0100
Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Given we have several 'Likes' for a number of offered workshops, when are
> we likely to set dates for some please?
> 
> Looks like GUI Python and GIT are in the lead with 7 and 6 Likes.
[snip]

I'm the person who offered "GUI Python" (and plain "Python").

If you are interested, then could you email me (off-list so as not to
annoy those who aren't interested) and let me know:

- Do you have a laptop/netbook you could bring along to use
- Which GUI library are you interested in? I can offer:
  . Tkinter
  . PySide/PyQt4

Thanks.

-- 
Mark Summerfield, Qtrac Ltd, www.qtrac.eu
    Training in Python and PyQt/PySide
        DiffPDF for Windows - PDF comparison tool
            http://www.qtrac.eu/diffpdf.html


From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun  9 12:58:33 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 12:58:33 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MXtP3KrKdn8xe=JUwUkFKc06zibi52aqzb_s2q_2EB0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Richard,

I think the limitation now on moving on with planning events is the fact
that we are about to move down to the 2nd floor, which isn't quite ready
yet. we are waiting for the partition to be put up.

Once the move happens, the kit is set up again, I am sure it will be all
systems go again.

It was a very busy social last night - great to see so many people there
and have so much going on.

Gwion showed us he new M3D d3 printer working, there was a big box of dry
ice (with things being pushed into it) the 3d printer was behaving, Tim
kept hurting himself with the soldering iron... and Ceri was being Ceri
bless him... a fun night!

PS Ceri showed us some video of his 3d printer on a budget working -
impressive!

73 de Emyr



On 8 June 2015 at 16:36, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi All,
> Given we have several 'Likes' for a number of offered workshops, when are
> we likely to set dates for some please?
>
> Looks like GUI Python and GIT are in the lead with 7 and 6 Likes.
>
> Also, the Laser Cutter ones are highly 'Liked', so an indication as to
> when we think they may get a date would be helpful too.
>
> --
> Many thanks,
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun  9 13:00:30 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 13:00:30 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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I'm interested in the Python thing as I have no experience at all of
Python... zilch... I'm interested in using it on the PI to control the
GPIOs etc... so a blank canvas as far as I am concerned :-)

I can bring a PI and a laptop

ta

Emyr

On 9 June 2015 at 12:58, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> I think the limitation now on moving on with planning events is the fact
> that we are about to move down to the 2nd floor, which isn't quite ready
> yet. we are waiting for the partition to be put up.
>
> Once the move happens, the kit is set up again, I am sure it will be all
> systems go again.
>
> It was a very busy social last night - great to see so many people there
> and have so much going on.
>
> Gwion showed us he new M3D d3 printer working, there was a big box of dry
> ice (with things being pushed into it) the 3d printer was behaving, Tim
> kept hurting himself with the soldering iron... and Ceri was being Ceri
> bless him... a fun night!
>
> PS Ceri showed us some video of his 3d printer on a budget working -
> impressive!
>
> 73 de Emyr
>
>
>
> On 8 June 2015 at 16:36, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Given we have several 'Likes' for a number of offered workshops, when are
>> we likely to set dates for some please?
>>
>> Looks like GUI Python and GIT are in the lead with 7 and 6 Likes.
>>
>> Also, the Laser Cutter ones are highly 'Liked', so an indication as to
>> when we think they may get a date would be helpful too.
>>
>> --
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 14:46:20 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:46:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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Hi Emyr,
Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)

I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to get
passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so it
wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that don't
rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting, wearables
ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a different
Techhub room if we need to...

I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)

Richard

P.S. What's an FPGA in the FPGAs for Beginners offering?

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 13:00 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I'm interested in the Python thing as I have no experience at all of
> Python... zilch... I'm interested in using it on the PI to control the
> GPIOs etc... so a blank canvas as far as I am concerned :-)
>
> I can bring a PI and a laptop
>
> ta
>
> Emyr
>
> On 9 June 2015 at 12:58, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>
>> I think the limitation now on moving on with planning events is the fact
>> that we are about to move down to the 2nd floor, which isn't quite ready
>> yet. we are waiting for the partition to be put up.
>>
>> Once the move happens, the kit is set up again, I am sure it will be all
>> systems go again.
>>
>> It was a very busy social last night - great to see so many people there
>> and have so much going on.
>>
>> Gwion showed us he new M3D d3 printer working, there was a big box of dry
>> ice (with things being pushed into it) the 3d printer was behaving, Tim
>> kept hurting himself with the soldering iron... and Ceri was being Ceri
>> bless him... a fun night!
>>
>> PS Ceri showed us some video of his 3d printer on a budget working -
>> impressive!
>>
>> 73 de Emyr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 June 2015 at 16:36, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Given we have several 'Likes' for a number of offered workshops, when
>>> are we likely to set dates for some please?
>>>
>>> Looks like GUI Python and GIT are in the lead with 7 and 6 Likes.
>>>
>>> Also, the Laser Cutter ones are highly 'Liked', so an indication as to
>>> when we think they may get a date would be helpful too.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
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>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>
>
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jun  9 15:50:13 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:50:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:


> P.S. What's an FPGA in the FPGAs for Beginners offering?
Field Programmable Gate Array

Large arrays of logic gates that can be rewired in what is basically
software, they can be used to implement custom chip designs and other
hardware at relatively low cost (compared to making a custom chip)

This is how people make really fast bitcoin mining kit for example.

A low end one to start with would be something like a Xilinx Spartan
series device.

 http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon-devices/fpga/spartan-6.html





From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jun  9 16:17:48 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 16:17:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
> Hi Emyr,
> Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
others.


> I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
> get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
> it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
> don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
> wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
> different Techhub room if we need to...

It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.

or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?

To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
people have clashes on thursdays.

http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops



> I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
It doesn't rank very highly alas.







From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun  9 16:24:20 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 16:24:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <1433863068.16319.24.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MXtP3KrKdn8xe=JUwUkFKc06zibi52aqzb_s2q_2EB0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7No9-zS7vJ4+8PO3BCoMo6=-8QoVkKOPei7V_-xOXYGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvDx8r8fKtsMCaP3UgF75k5FY84U+f6xLZcm-e=mienfKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1433863068.16319.24.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MTw2R_sN=R+46R2ZPBs7s8nSyDs+Tm4ZSNfj8BPqk11A@mail.gmail.com>

I guess clashes are inevitable... :-(

I'm trying to get my son interested in using the laser cutter but I hear
that you have pencilled that for the Father's day weekend when we will both
be away visiting 'tadcu'

sh*t happens!
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jun  9 17:11:19 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:11:19 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MTw2R_sN=R+46R2ZPBs7s8nSyDs+Tm4ZSNfj8BPqk11A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 16:24 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> I guess clashes are inevitable... :-(
> 
> 
> I'm trying to get my son interested in using the laser cutter but I
> hear that you have pencilled that for the Father's day weekend when we
> will both be away visiting 'tadcu'

The induction for the cutter should be fairly short, it's not as complex
to use as something like the CNC Mill, so it could be run in an evening
slot, as long as there's not too many people want to have a go at once,
and people come prepared with the artwork they want to try.





From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun  9 17:13:50 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:13:50 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <1433866279.16319.28.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MXtP3KrKdn8xe=JUwUkFKc06zibi52aqzb_s2q_2EB0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7No9-zS7vJ4+8PO3BCoMo6=-8QoVkKOPei7V_-xOXYGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvDx8r8fKtsMCaP3UgF75k5FY84U+f6xLZcm-e=mienfKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1433863068.16319.24.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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	<1433866279.16319.28.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OjX1dygpdZyV2sb0EeYbXj-jUgqJwtEeG_otvTYUhv6w@mail.gmail.com>

:-) thank you

E

On 9 June 2015 at 17:11, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 16:24 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > I guess clashes are inevitable... :-(
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to get my son interested in using the laser cutter but I
> > hear that you have pencilled that for the Father's day weekend when we
> > will both be away visiting 'tadcu'
>
> The induction for the cutter should be fairly short, it's not as complex
> to use as something like the CNC Mill, so it could be run in an evening
> slot, as long as there's not too many people want to have a go at once,
> and people come prepared with the artwork they want to try.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 22:43:09 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:43:09 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <1433863068.16319.24.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MXtP3KrKdn8xe=JUwUkFKc06zibi52aqzb_s2q_2EB0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7No9-zS7vJ4+8PO3BCoMo6=-8QoVkKOPei7V_-xOXYGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvDx8r8fKtsMCaP3UgF75k5FY84U+f6xLZcm-e=mienfKg@mail.gmail.com>
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It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can be
missed.

How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
offering them to non-members too?

Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new
person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new persons
will become members)...?


Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees with
Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......

Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that
couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The presenter
has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post on-line to
attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).


P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of
Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)


On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
> > Hi Emyr,
> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
> others.
>
>
> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>
> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>
> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>
> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
> people have clashes on thursdays.
>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>
>
>
> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun  9 23:37:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:37:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvAxKnJDehbvsOL4nojbwZL_-S9uPjQx-uNTUVorZjU8JA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MXtP3KrKdn8xe=JUwUkFKc06zibi52aqzb_s2q_2EB0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7No9-zS7vJ4+8PO3BCoMo6=-8QoVkKOPei7V_-xOXYGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvDx8r8fKtsMCaP3UgF75k5FY84U+f6xLZcm-e=mienfKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1433863068.16319.24.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CANSRvvAxKnJDehbvsOL4nojbwZL_-S9uPjQx-uNTUVorZjU8JA@mail.gmail.com>
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Video streaming is a great idea

On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can be
> missed.
>
> How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
> offering them to non-members too?
>
> Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new
> person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new persons
> will become members)...?
>
>
> Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees
> with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>
> Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that
> couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The presenter
> has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post on-line to
> attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).
>
>
> P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of
> Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>
>
> On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>> > Hi Emyr,
>> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
>> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
>> others.
>>
>>
>> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
>> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
>> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
>> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
>> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
>> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>>
>> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
>> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
>> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>>
>> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
>> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
>> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>>
>> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
>> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
>> people have clashes on thursdays.
>>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
>> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Richard
>


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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 23:45:23 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 23:45:23 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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References: <CANSRvvDMQ8ogDsKuf=pGit5US9HVmrM3EznGHvagSMPfYqbCRw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7MXtP3KrKdn8xe=JUwUkFKc06zibi52aqzb_s2q_2EB0Q@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGAFX7No9-zS7vJ4+8PO3BCoMo6=-8QoVkKOPei7V_-xOXYGGQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CANSRvvDx8r8fKtsMCaP3UgF75k5FY84U+f6xLZcm-e=mienfKg@mail.gmail.com>	<1433863068.16319.24.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>	<CANSRvvAxKnJDehbvsOL4nojbwZL_-S9uPjQx-uNTUVorZjU8JA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <55776C83.2070308@aurinia.co.uk>


On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
> Video streaming is a great idea
>
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan 
> <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk 
> <mailto:richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something
>     that can be missed.
>
>     How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events
>     and offering them to non-members too?
>
>     Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each
>     new person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of
>     new persons will become members)...?
>
>
>     Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up
>     attendees with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>
>     Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those
>     that couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit,
>     The presenter has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content
>     it can post on-line to attract new members (or charge for access
>     behind a membership wall).
>

We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux 
User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it 
would put people off because things which were done informally, which is 
our style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who 
were googling them.



>
>
>     P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game
>     of Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>
>
>     On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell
>     <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
>     wrote:
>
>         On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>         > Hi Emyr,
>         > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>         We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this
>         every
>         week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
>         others.
>
>
>         > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a
>         while to
>         > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the
>         events - so
>         > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible'
>         events that
>         > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT,
>         Typesetting,
>         > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the
>         event in a
>         > different Techhub room if we need to...
>
>         It is very disheartening for the people that have made the
>         effort to put
>         on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make
>         sure that we
>         are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>
>         or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific
>         person to
>         put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
>         monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>
>         To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please
>         indicate
>         which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know
>         a few
>         people have clashes on thursdays.
>
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>
>
>
>         > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm
>         waiting for :-)
>         It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>
>
>
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Richard
>
>
>
> -- 
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 07:10:16 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:10:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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Hi Neil,
I agree that there used to be that worry but I believe Employers think
differently now. I believe the signals being sent to Employers would be:

1. Here's a person who's got off their arse and decided to help others -
the kind of person I want in the team
2. This person clearly knows their stuff and understands the subject - the
kind of person I want in my team
3. This person is more visible to me than other potential candidates as I
can see and hear them not just read a name on a CV piece of paper

In terms of quality, I'm pretty sure that with the skills we have across
the group the quality will be pretty good right out of the gate.

And of course, having your name get greater exposure for an employable
topic that can be searched and viewed across the interwebs for any future
employer searching....some people pay for that kind of exposure.... :-)


On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 23:45 Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> Video streaming is a great idea
>
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can
>> be missed.
>>
>>  How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
>> offering them to non-members too?
>>
>>  Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new
>> person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new persons
>> will become members)...?
>>
>>
>>  Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees
>> with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>>
>>  Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that
>> couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The presenter
>> has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post on-line to
>> attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).
>>
>
> We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux
> User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it would
> put people off because things which were done informally, which is our
> style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who were
> googling them.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>  P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of
>> Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>>
>>
>> On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>> > Hi Emyr,
>>> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>>> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
>>> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
>>> others.
>>>
>>>
>>> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
>>> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
>>> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
>>> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
>>> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
>>> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>>>
>>> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
>>> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
>>> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>>>
>>> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
>>> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
>>> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>>>
>>> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
>>> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
>>> people have clashes on thursdays.
>>>
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
>>> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Richard
>>
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From s.r.williams at swansea.ac.uk  Wed Jun 10 08:56:22 2015
From: s.r.williams at swansea.ac.uk (Williams S.R.)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:56:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] next technical events
Message-ID: <D19DAABE.4669E%s.r.williams@swansea.ac.uk>

Hi All

Mostly a lurker on this list, and I often don?t manage keep up with the
mails - but if it would help at all I?d be happy to help promote hackspace
events across the university staff and where possible students. If anyone
organising something wants to mail me directly, in case I miss it on this
list happy to try?

Some of the most highly rated youtube (tech and other) channels are very
informal.

Cheers

Steve
s.r.williams at swansea.ac.uk

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>Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 23:45:23 +0100
>From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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>On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
>> Video streaming is a great idea
>>
>> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan
>> <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk
>> <mailto:richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something
>>     that can be missed.
>>
>>     How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events
>>     and offering them to non-members too?
>>
>>     Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each
>>     new person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of
>>     new persons will become members)...?
>>
>>
>>     Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up
>>     attendees with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>>
>>     Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those
>>     that couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit,
>>     The presenter has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content
>>     it can post on-line to attract new members (or charge for access
>>     behind a membership wall).
>>
>
>We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux
>User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it
>would put people off because things which were done informally, which is
>our style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who
>were googling them.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>     P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game
>>     of Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>>
>>
>>     On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell
>>     <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>         > Hi Emyr,
>>         > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>>         We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this
>>         every
>>         week, might help those that can't always make it along and
>>entice
>>         others.
>>
>>
>>         > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a
>>         while to
>>         > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the
>>         events - so
>>         > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible'
>>         events that
>>         > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT,
>>         Typesetting,
>>         > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the
>>         event in a
>>         > different Techhub room if we need to...
>>
>>         It is very disheartening for the people that have made the
>>         effort to put
>>         on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make
>>         sure that we
>>         are running events that people actually want and will turn up
>>to.
>>
>>         or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific
>>         person to
>>         put in all the effort, for example would people be interested
>>in a
>>         monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>>
>>         To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please
>>         indicate
>>         which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know
>>         a few
>>         people have clashes on thursdays.
>>
>>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>>
>>
>>
>>         > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm
>>         waiting for :-)
>>         It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Kind regards,
>>
>>     Richard
>>
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>From: Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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>Hi Neil,
>I agree that there used to be that worry but I believe Employers think
>differently now. I believe the signals being sent to Employers would be:
>
>1. Here's a person who's got off their arse and decided to help others -
>the kind of person I want in the team
>2. This person clearly knows their stuff and understands the subject - the
>kind of person I want in my team
>3. This person is more visible to me than other potential candidates as I
>can see and hear them not just read a name on a CV piece of paper
>
>In terms of quality, I'm pretty sure that with the skills we have across
>the group the quality will be pretty good right out of the gate.
>
>And of course, having your name get greater exposure for an employable
>topic that can be searched and viewed across the interwebs for any future
>employer searching....some people pay for that kind of exposure.... :-)
>
>
>On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 23:45 Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
>>
>> Video streaming is a great idea
>>
>> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can
>>> be missed.
>>>
>>>  How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
>>> offering them to non-members too?
>>>
>>>  Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new
>>> person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new
>>>persons
>>> will become members)...?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees
>>> with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>>>
>>>  Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that
>>> couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The
>>>presenter
>>> has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post
>>>on-line to
>>> attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).
>>>
>>
>> We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux
>> User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it
>>would
>> put people off because things which were done informally, which is our
>> style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who were
>> googling them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of
>>> Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell
>>><justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>>> > Hi Emyr,
>>>> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>>>> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
>>>> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
>>>> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events -
>>>>so
>>>> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events
>>>>that
>>>> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT,
>>>>Typesetting,
>>>> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
>>>> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>>>>
>>>> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to
>>>>put
>>>> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that
>>>>we
>>>> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>>>>
>>>> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person
>>>>to
>>>> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
>>>> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>>>>
>>>> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please
>>>>indicate
>>>> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
>>>> people have clashes on thursdays.
>>>>
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for
>>>>:-)
>>>> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>
>>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jun 10 09:40:58 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:40:58 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 22:43 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote:
> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that
> can be missed.
> 
> 
> How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
> offering them to non-members too?

This is a very interesting point, and one i have been discussing with
others lately.

If you take a look at other hackspaces they charge for many of their
workshops, quite sizable sums, and get a full house. For example
nottinghacks beginners arduino workshops are ?16 a head, and are over
subscribed.

Not everyone can afford such fees, and we wouldn't want to wind up
discriminating against those on a lower income, but it does appear very
much that cost affects perceived value, so we should definitely give
consideration to having certain 'premium' events, as well as free to
members ones.






From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun 10 10:24:03 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:24:03 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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	<CAGAFX7No9-zS7vJ4+8PO3BCoMo6=-8QoVkKOPei7V_-xOXYGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvDx8r8fKtsMCaP3UgF75k5FY84U+f6xLZcm-e=mienfKg@mail.gmail.com>
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member rate and non-member rate?

I can see arguments for and against but on the whole the idea is a good
one, and if it gives us more funds to be more confident in paying the rent
and being able to maintain the kit then yes.



On 10 June 2015 at 09:40, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 22:43 +0100, Richard Morgan wrote:
> > It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that
> > can be missed.
> >
> >
> > How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
> > offering them to non-members too?
>
> This is a very interesting point, and one i have been discussing with
> others lately.
>
> If you take a look at other hackspaces they charge for many of their
> workshops, quite sizable sums, and get a full house. For example
> nottinghacks beginners arduino workshops are ?16 a head, and are over
> subscribed.
>
> Not everyone can afford such fees, and we wouldn't want to wind up
> discriminating against those on a lower income, but it does appear very
> much that cost affects perceived value, so we should definitely give
> consideration to having certain 'premium' events, as well as free to
> members ones.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 13:15:17 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:15:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
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Great news Justin.

So which of the workshops might we pilot this approach with?
Ideally something popular to a wider audience to be attractive. Maybe
Arduino workshop is a good starter if that has worked for others?

Also, with Steve Williams' offer to promote across the University we may be
able to fill the session.

Once we agree the workshops to pilot, maybe a bit of a share on the list of
the marketing collateral (Poster/Flyer for physical world, email content to
send to the wider list, Links to tweet out and share on Social media) to
push out for promotion and see how we fare? (Are there any examples of
marketing or promotion materials from others?)

Guessing Eventbrite will be used to handle numbers, registration and ticket
payments...?
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 10 13:43:29 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:43:29 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS145D8FC6860078154181FF5C6BD0@phx.gbl>

All sounds good so far, I'll dig out when the cut off is to get events in the "what's on" guide,  given how we're not sure when we will resettle, this is a perfect opportunity to schedule evens for future dates,  date that we know we will have moved by.

I've been looking to reboot my tech and re YouTube channel for ages (for older, less experienced videos of mine, just Google: djdavies83), I would be more than happy to do some video, editing and up loading, also happy to be the face of a tutorial if the organiser prefers to stay behind the lens.

Justin, what formats for artwork are needed for the Laser cutter? I forget what the bed size is.

A small fee for non members on tutorial nights may well work out, with something to take home at the end of course, there are still public who feel that "If something is free, it's not worth anything".

My break is about to end, I know there is more I wanted to ask/give I put on, I'll email again before 2pm.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

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Hi Neil,
I agree that there used to be that worry but I believe Employers think
differently now. I believe the signals being sent to Employers would be:

1. Here's a person who's got off their arse and decided to help others -
the kind of person I want in the team
2. This person clearly knows their stuff and understands the subject - the
kind of person I want in my team
3. This person is more visible to me than other potential candidates as I
can see and hear them not just read a name on a CV piece of paper

In terms of quality, I'm pretty sure that with the skills we have across
the group the quality will be pretty good right out of the gate.

And of course, having your name get greater exposure for an employable
topic that can be searched and viewed across the interwebs for any future
employer searching....some people pay for that kind of exposure.... :-)


On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 23:45 Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> Video streaming is a great idea
>
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can
>> be missed.
>>
>>  How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
>> offering them to non-members too?
>>
>>  Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new
>> person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new persons
>> will become members)...?
>>
>>
>>  Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees
>> with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>>
>>  Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that
>> couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The presenter
>> has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post on-line to
>> attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).
>>
>
> We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux
> User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it would
> put people off because things which were done informally, which is our
> style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who were
> googling them.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>  P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of
>> Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>>
>>
>> On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>>> > Hi Emyr,
>>> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>>> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
>>> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
>>> others.
>>>
>>>
>>> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
>>> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
>>> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
>>> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
>>> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
>>> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>>>
>>> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
>>> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
>>> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>>>
>>> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
>>> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
>>> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>>>
>>> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
>>> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
>>> people have clashes on thursdays.
>>>
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
>>> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Richard
>>
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From paul.harwood at techhub.com  Wed Jun 10 13:57:17 2015
From: paul.harwood at techhub.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:57:17 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS145D8FC6860078154181FF5C6BD0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS145D8FC6860078154181FF5C6BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <31B75EE4-1479-4F64-8A09-62C6E5E7A48A@techhub.com>

Putting on events is hard.

You have to continually remind people they are on especially for niche subjects, please use our community manager (when the new one is hired) to help you put on events and publicise them. The resource is free and as long as you are all on the TechHub mailing list then you should get alerts. 

I know the TechHub mailing list is not the hackspace mailing list - but IMO the two should not be mutually exclusive, events is all about pushing out to as many people who may be interested as possible.

Cheers!

? paul


> On 10 Jun 2015, at 13:43, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> All sounds good so far, I'll dig out when the cut off is to get events in the "what's on" guide,  given how we're not sure when we will resettle, this is a perfect opportunity to schedule evens for future dates,  date that we know we will have moved by.
> 
> I've been looking to reboot my tech and re YouTube channel for ages (for older, less experienced videos of mine, just Google: djdavies83), I would be more than happy to do some video, editing and up loading, also happy to be the face of a tutorial if the organiser prefers to stay behind the lens.
> 
> Justin, what formats for artwork are needed for the Laser cutter? I forget what the bed size is.
> 
> A small fee for non members on tutorial nights may well work out, with something to take home at the end of course, there are still public who feel that "If something is free, it's not worth anything".
> 
> My break is about to end, I know there is more I wanted to ask/give I put on, I'll email again before 2pm. 
> 
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> Date:10/06/2015 07:11 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
> 
> Hi Neil,
> I agree that there used to be that worry but I believe Employers think differently now. I believe the signals being sent to Employers would be:
> 
> 1. Here's a person who's got off their arse and decided to help others - the kind of person I want in the team
> 2. This person clearly knows their stuff and understands the subject - the kind of person I want in my team
> 3. This person is more visible to me than other potential candidates as I can see and hear them not just read a name on a CV piece of paper
> 
> In terms of quality, I'm pretty sure that with the skills we have across the group the quality will be pretty good right out of the gate.
> 
> And of course, having your name get greater exposure for an employable topic that can be searched and viewed across the interwebs for any future employer searching....some people pay for that kind of exposure.... :-)
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 23:45 Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk <mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
>> Video streaming is a great idea
>> 
>> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk <mailto:richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>> wrote:
>> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can be missed.
>> 
>> How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and offering them to non-members too?
>> 
>> Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new persons will become members)...?
>> 
>> 
>> Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>> 
>> Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The presenter has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post on-line to attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).
> 
> We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it would put people off because things which were done informally, which is our style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who were googling them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <>> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
>> > Hi Emyr,
>> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
>> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
>> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
>> others.
>> 
>> 
>> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
>> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
>> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
>> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
>> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
>> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>> 
>> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
>> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
>> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>> 
>> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
>> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
>> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>> 
>> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
>> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
>> people have clashes on thursdays.
>> 
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
>> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun 10 14:03:58 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:03:58 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <31B75EE4-1479-4F64-8A09-62C6E5E7A48A@techhub.com>
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	<31B75EE4-1479-4F64-8A09-62C6E5E7A48A@techhub.com>
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where would I find the tech hub mailing list please Paul?

kind regards

Emyr

On 10 June 2015 at 13:57, Paul Harwood <paul.harwood at techhub.com> wrote:

> Putting on events is hard.
>
> You have to continually remind people they are on especially for niche
> subjects, please use our community manager (when the new one is hired) to
> help you put on events and publicise them. The resource is free and as long
> as you are all on the TechHub mailing list then you should get alerts.
>
> I know the TechHub mailing list is not the hackspace mailing list - but
> IMO the two should not be mutually exclusive, events is all about pushing
> out to as many people who may be interested as possible.
>
> Cheers!
>
> ? paul
>
>
> On 10 Jun 2015, at 13:43, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  All sounds good so far, I'll dig out when the cut off is to get events
> in the "what's on" guide,  given how we're not sure when we will resettle,
> this is a perfect opportunity to schedule evens for future dates,  date
> that we know we will have moved by.
>
>  I've been looking to reboot my tech and re YouTube channel for ages (for
> older, less experienced videos of mine, just Google: djdavies83), I would
> be more than happy to do some video, editing and up loading, also happy to
> be the face of a tutorial if the organiser prefers to stay behind the lens.
>
>  Justin, what formats for artwork are needed for the Laser cutter? I
> forget what the bed size is.
>
>  A small fee for non members on tutorial nights may well work out, with
> something to take home at the end of course, there are still public who
> feel that "If something is free, it's not worth anything".
>
>  My break is about to end, I know there is more I wanted to ask/give I
> put on, I'll email again before 2pm.
>
>  No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> Date:10/06/2015 07:11 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
>
>  Hi Neil,
> I agree that there used to be that worry but I believe Employers think
> differently now. I believe the signals being sent to Employers would be:
>
>  1. Here's a person who's got off their arse and decided to help others -
> the kind of person I want in the team
> 2. This person clearly knows their stuff and understands the subject - the
> kind of person I want in my team
> 3. This person is more visible to me than other potential candidates as I
> can see and hear them not just read a name on a CV piece of paper
>
>  In terms of quality, I'm pretty sure that with the skills we have across
> the group the quality will be pretty good right out of the gate.
>
>  And of course, having your name get greater exposure for an employable
> topic that can be searched and viewed across the interwebs for any future
> employer searching....some people pay for that kind of exposure.... :-)
>
>
>  On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 23:45 Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On 09/06/15 23:37, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> Video streaming is a great idea
>
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> It's often the case that people see 'free' events as something that can be
> missed.
>
>  How do we feel about putting a 'ticket' price (~?10) on the events and
> offering them to non-members too?
>
>  Or, more radical - how do we feel about 'paying' members for each new
> person they can bring to a workshop (payback being that a % of new persons
> will become members)...?
>
>
>  Guess we also need to get better at scheduling and lining up attendees
> with Presenters dates to make it easier for everyone......
>
>  Or, more radical - we run the workshop and 'video' it so those that
> couldn't attend (could be zero attendees) can still benefit, The presenter
> has a useful workshop and the Hackspace has content it can post on-line to
> attract new members (or charge for access behind a membership wall).
>
>
>  We went through the idea of videoing talks some years ago with the Linux
> User Groups and  talks they were running. The general thought was it would
> put people off because things which were done informally, which is our
> style too, would not necessarily go down with future employers who were
> googling them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  P.S. Wire-wrap Jewellery - not ranking! Have people not seen Game of
> Thrones, they're all wearing it ;-)
>
>
> On 9 June 2015 at 16:17, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:46 +0000, Richard Morgan wrote:
> > Hi Emyr,
> > Thanks for the summary - I miss the Monday nights. :-)
> We should perhaps make more effort to post a summary like this every
> week, might help those that can't always make it along and entice
> others.
>
>
> > I understand the move is coming(ish) but it takes people a while to
> > get passes from Family, organise their time to attend the events - so
> > it wouldn't do any harm to put some of the more 'flexible' events that
> > don't rely on fixed equipment (i.e. Python, Origami, GIT, Typesetting,
> > wearables ones) to be scheduled in. We can always run the event in a
> > different Techhub room if we need to...
>
> It is very disheartening for the people that have made the effort to put
> on workshops when nobody turns up to them, we need to make sure that we
> are running events that people actually want and will turn up to.
>
> or we need to run more group events that don't need a specific person to
> put in all the effort, for example would people be interested in a
> monthly table top gaming night if we scheduled one?
>
> To help with getting the scheduling right, could people please indicate
> which evenings they would prefer events happened on, as i know a few
> people have clashes on thursdays.
>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Polls/Workshops
>
>
>
> > I'm just keen! The wire-wrap jewellery one is what I'm waiting for :-)
> It doesn't rank very highly alas.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
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>
> Richard
>
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jun 10 15:02:27 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:02:27 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS145D8FC6860078154181FF5C6BD0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS145D8FC6860078154181FF5C6BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1433944947.30356.22.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 13:43 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Justin, what formats for artwork are needed for the Laser cutter? I
> forget what the bed size is.

For cutting it has to be a vector format, the software only accepts EMF
(Enhanced MetaFile) format, but anything that inkscape will accept will
do as it can convert.

For engraving/rastering then emf or any standard bitmap format will do.

Your image should be single colour only, with black where you want to
cut/mark.

The bed size is roughly A4, we havent measured it precisely yet.


Haven't finalised what to cover in the induction course, but i imagine
it will be cutting some card, and engraving+cutting a small acrylic
piece, with a fee to cover the material and laser running costs.
Hopefully within the next 2 weeks.




From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 15:38:08 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:38:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thank you for help with temperature sensor
	(100kelvin to 350kelvin)
Message-ID: <CAERuT1-mKp7rmhmUU0vn6zUVNByGKnZ6StThDMPx9T8Js5=JkA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Guys,

I'd just like to thank you all for your help on Monday! I learn't so much!
Thanks for the thermocouple demo Ceri.
I also tried the experiment on the ds18s20 (thanks Gerrit for the
loan, I hope I don't break it!)

So far the lowest reading I got in Dry ice was about -77.19 it
hovering around the -77.12 mark!

Now I need to wire this up to that Wireless WIFI programmable board!
next task! Tom when you order some can you get a couple for me? (in
case I break one!)

Thanks to all


From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 10 18:05:27 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:05:27 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS199241A283FC1B1754B768C6BD0@phx.gbl>

That's great,  thanks Justin. I imagine it will fly through polystyrene,  the discs you get under supermarket Pizza to be more precise


It appears that my favourite (only because I it was part of my college course) 2D CAD program, draftsight, can export EMF.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2082504

I can do a tutorial on this if there is anyone interested,  in not a pro, but I can handle this thing pretty well.


Python tutorials:

I would love to learn Python for making android device apps:

USB Serial communication
USB HID joysticks
Virtual buttons/joysticks
Client
Server
Reading/writing to an ESP8266 over wifi.

These kind of thing are what I'm looking to achieve,  I know I'll have to start small of course.




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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Date:10/06/2015  15:03  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events? </div><div>
</div>
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 13:43 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Justin, what formats for artwork are needed for the Laser cutter? I
> forget what the bed size is.

For cutting it has to be a vector format, the software only accepts EMF
(Enhanced MetaFile) format, but anything that inkscape will accept will
do as it can convert.

For engraving/rastering then emf or any standard bitmap format will do.

Your image should be single colour only, with black where you want to
cut/mark.

The bed size is roughly A4, we havent measured it precisely yet.


Haven't finalised what to cover in the induction course, but i imagine
it will be cutting some card, and engraving+cutting a small acrylic
piece, with a fee to cover the material and laser running costs.
Hopefully within the next 2 weeks.


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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun 10 20:32:48 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:32:48 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thank you for help with temperature sensor
 (100kelvin to 350kelvin)
In-Reply-To: <CAERuT1-mKp7rmhmUU0vn6zUVNByGKnZ6StThDMPx9T8Js5=JkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAERuT1-mKp7rmhmUU0vn6zUVNByGKnZ6StThDMPx9T8Js5=JkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Pe2j5JK19DXtjigL8yQR2FR7EqbfAt2575iVXou=WvoQ@mail.gmail.com>

I wrote up my adventure with the esp8266 and the temperature sensor on my
2w0mwm.tumblr.com blog

Hope it helps

On Wednesday, June 10, 2015, David Rankin <rankin.dc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>
> I'd just like to thank you all for your help on Monday! I learn't so much!
> Thanks for the thermocouple demo Ceri.
> I also tried the experiment on the ds18s20 (thanks Gerrit for the
> loan, I hope I don't break it!)
>
> So far the lowest reading I got in Dry ice was about -77.19 it
> hovering around the -77.12 mark!
>
> Now I need to wire this up to that Wireless WIFI programmable board!
> next task! Tom when you order some can you get a couple for me? (in
> case I break one!)
>
> Thanks to all
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <javascript:;>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jun 10 21:02:15 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:02:15 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS199241A283FC1B1754B768C6BD0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS199241A283FC1B1754B768C6BD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1433966535.15686.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 18:05 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote:
> That's great,  thanks Justin. I imagine it will fly through
> polystyrene,  the discs you get under supermarket Pizza to be more
> precise 

Reading around suggests that HIPS/polystyrene is tricky to work with,
the cut edges are prone to puffing up.


> Python tutorials:

> I would love to learn Python for making android device apps:

Native Android applications are written in Java not python.

There are 3rd party products to make python work, but the same is true
for just about every language, and you'll be jumping through hoops to
interface to the system java APIs. 

Likewise you can write android apps in C/C++ with the official tools,
but you spend most of the time calling interfaces to the java system API
and dealing with the consequences of the conversions.





From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Wed Jun 10 21:20:26 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:20:26 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Next Technical Events?
In-Reply-To: <1433966535.15686.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
References: <DUB406-EAS199241A283FC1B1754B768C6BD0@phx.gbl>
	<1433966535.15686.5.camel@emerald.geode.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20150610212026.2cee9a83@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:02:15 +0100
Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 18:05 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote:
> > That's great,  thanks Justin. I imagine it will fly through
> > polystyrene,  the discs you get under supermarket Pizza to be more
> > precise 
> 
> Reading around suggests that HIPS/polystyrene is tricky to work with,
> the cut edges are prone to puffing up.

The pizza bases knife cut beautifully and precisely, not tried disc
cutting them. They are a staple of modelmaking and a lot of building
modeller swear by them. They do need to be coated in something after
cutting as the surface is otherwise easily damaged if not hardened.

Alan


From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jun 16 16:57:19 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:57:19 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Laser Cutter Induction Course
Message-ID: <1434470239.17853.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

When: 7pm Wednesday 1st July 2015 
What: Laser Cutter Induction Course 
Price: ?5 

This is an introduction to how to safely use the laser cutter, it will
cover setting up and checking the equipment, types of materials that can
be used, using the software to drive the system and engraving and
cutting a range of materials. 

Course fee includes all materials and laser time.

Buy your tickets from eventbrite here :
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/laser-cutter-induction-tickets-17411879400

This course is REQUIRED if you wish to use the cutter by yourself.

If you wish to experiment with your own logo designs, please bring them
as black on white in an .emf (ehanced metafile) format, otherwise one
will be provided.



From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun 16 17:15:44 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:15:44 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Laser Cutter Induction Course
In-Reply-To: <1434470239.17853.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1434470239.17853.3.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PiKUPdQoi5ntiK9Zw5BK367BmAL_h1y=47tnj7wr4tbQ@mail.gmail.com>

booked!

On 16 June 2015 at 16:57, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> When: 7pm Wednesday 1st July 2015
> What: Laser Cutter Induction Course
> Price: ?5
>
> This is an introduction to how to safely use the laser cutter, it will
> cover setting up and checking the equipment, types of materials that can
> be used, using the software to drive the system and engraving and
> cutting a range of materials.
>
> Course fee includes all materials and laser time.
>
> Buy your tickets from eventbrite here :
> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/laser-cutter-induction-tickets-17411879400
>
> This course is REQUIRED if you wish to use the cutter by yourself.
>
> If you wish to experiment with your own logo designs, please bring them
> as black on white in an .emf (ehanced metafile) format, otherwise one
> will be provided.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 16:58:36 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:58:36 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
Message-ID: <CAPqi54ASHwV9wPmWH4cb4cT3U=tuK1s0EnfB2DeRzAca=gEKfw@mail.gmail.com>

*The problem*
I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo
and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What
I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the
other three for most tasks.

*Existing solutions*
Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons. The
Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the ?100
range and still have a lot of buttons.

*My suggested solution*
An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.

*Possible improvements*
- LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode,
the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light
up so that I can change channels.
- Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.

*What I've done so far*
- Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
- Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
successfully sent them again
- Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
- Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)

*Next steps*
- Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
further?
- Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than
one?

Cheers,
Gerrit


?
?
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Jun 19 17:07:38 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:07:38 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <CAPqi54ASHwV9wPmWH4cb4cT3U=tuK1s0EnfB2DeRzAca=gEKfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPqi54ASHwV9wPmWH4cb4cT3U=tuK1s0EnfB2DeRzAca=gEKfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MdR3qvMRfNthbQ5FJvrbVmLG4cbdh-DiOyBAg+W1DyNg@mail.gmail.com>

great project! Love it

On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> *The problem*
> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo
> and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What
> I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the
> other three for most tasks.
>
> *Existing solutions*
> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons. The
> Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the ?100
> range and still have a lot of buttons.
>
> *My suggested solution*
> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
> depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
> template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
> remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>
> *Possible improvements*
> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode,
> the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light
> up so that I can change channels.
> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
> halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>
> *What I've done so far*
> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
> successfully sent them again
> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>
> *Next steps*
> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
> further?
> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than
> one?
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
>
> ?
> ?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 22:21:52 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:21:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MdR3qvMRfNthbQ5FJvrbVmLG4cbdh-DiOyBAg+W1DyNg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAGAFX7MdR3qvMRfNthbQ5FJvrbVmLG4cbdh-DiOyBAg+W1DyNg@mail.gmail.com>
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A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV REMOTE
to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels -
having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.

I would be interested in using this.

Thanks Gerrit

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> great project! Love it
>
> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *The problem*
>> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo
>> and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What
>> I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the
>> other three for most tasks.
>>
>> *Existing solutions*
>> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons.
>> The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the
>> ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons.
>>
>> *My suggested solution*
>> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
>> depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
>> template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
>> remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>>
>> *Possible improvements*
>> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode,
>> the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light
>> up so that I can change channels.
>> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
>> halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>>
>> *What I've done so far*
>> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
>> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
>> successfully sent them again
>> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
>> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>>
>> *Next steps*
>> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
>> further?
>> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than
>> one?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerrit
>>
>>
>> ?
>> ?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 12:32:54 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:32:54 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvA=mydWeGDS6R0Wo=8Ubm9G-9XYwbihNrL0qqFSX_f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPqi54ASHwV9wPmWH4cb4cT3U=tuK1s0EnfB2DeRzAca=gEKfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7MdR3qvMRfNthbQ5FJvrbVmLG4cbdh-DiOyBAg+W1DyNg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvA=mydWeGDS6R0Wo=8Ubm9G-9XYwbihNrL0qqFSX_f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn_SiEn7YC1M9B+GjQKFnmmLPFsYYLk4VgiskgJGVXS1MA@mail.gmail.com>

If you had a recent android phone.
Then  there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...

Did I mention I like android ?
On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV
> REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels
> - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.
>
> I would be interested in using this.
>
> Thanks Gerrit
>
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> great project! Love it
>>
>> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *The problem*
>>> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo
>>> and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What
>>> I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the
>>> other three for most tasks.
>>>
>>> *Existing solutions*
>>> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons.
>>> The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the
>>> ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons.
>>>
>>> *My suggested solution*
>>> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
>>> depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
>>> template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
>>> remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>>>
>>> *Possible improvements*
>>> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV
>>> mode, the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should
>>> light up so that I can change channels.
>>> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
>>> halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>>>
>>> *What I've done so far*
>>> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
>>> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
>>> successfully sent them again
>>> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
>>> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>>>
>>> *Next steps*
>>> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
>>> further?
>>> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than
>>> one?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Gerrit
>>>
>>>
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 12:41:03 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_SiEn7YC1M9B+GjQKFnmmLPFsYYLk4VgiskgJGVXS1MA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAGAFX7MdR3qvMRfNthbQ5FJvrbVmLG4cbdh-DiOyBAg+W1DyNg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvA=mydWeGDS6R0Wo=8Ubm9G-9XYwbihNrL0qqFSX_f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
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What about using the touchscreen from Nintendo DS. .or simmla. ..
No actual buttons a glossy picture underneath. . Over acrilic. .. So you
can still have illumination. ..  siluett cutout (laser)
Bit more code for touch screen.  But only 4 I/O.

Although does affect shape
On 20 Jun 2015 12:32, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you had a recent android phone.
> Then  there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...
>
> Did I mention I like android ?
> On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV
>> REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels
>> - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.
>>
>> I would be interested in using this.
>>
>> Thanks Gerrit
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>> great project! Love it
>>>
>>> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *The problem*
>>>> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV,
>>>> Tivo and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes.
>>>> What I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can
>>>> replace the other three for most tasks.
>>>>
>>>> *Existing solutions*
>>>> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons.
>>>> The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the
>>>> ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons.
>>>>
>>>> *My suggested solution*
>>>> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
>>>> depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
>>>> template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
>>>> remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>>>>
>>>> *Possible improvements*
>>>> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
>>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV
>>>> mode, the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should
>>>> light up so that I can change channels.
>>>> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
>>>> halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>>>>
>>>> *What I've done so far*
>>>> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
>>>> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
>>>> successfully sent them again
>>>> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
>>>> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>>>>
>>>> *Next steps*
>>>> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
>>>> further?
>>>> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more
>>>> than one?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Gerrit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>>> addressed.
>>>
>>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>>> yn unig.
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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>>
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Sat Jun 20 13:36:28 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:36:28 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn9in+eDtZNyVovLkRpgv-kB5Sqt==uEg_a_Xm3o4fs_nQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <712bf2f5-2eb1-44f5-8a0e-a8422e6e75de@email.android.com>

A touch sensitive layer with an eink display would be great, it would only consume power when changing the layout, and you'd get complete freedom of what buttons you had.

As for me a useful universal remote would need quite diverse button sets, as fit example the surround amp has quite different controls to the sky box.

Much of the need for such a remote has been killed by the HDMI-CEC standards, but there still a few devices that don't behave

On 20 Jun 2015 12:41 pm, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What about using the touchscreen from Nintendo DS. .or simmla. ..
> No actual buttons a glossy picture underneath. . Over acrilic. .. So you can still have illumination. ..? siluett cutout (laser) 
> Bit more code for touch screen.? But only 4 I/O.
>
> Although does affect shape
>
> On 20 Jun 2015 12:32, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you had a recent android phone. 
>> Then? there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...
>>
>> Did I mention I like android ?
>>
>> On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.
>>>
>>> I would be interested in using this.
>>>
>>> Thanks Gerrit
>>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> great project! Love it
>>>>
>>>> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem
>>>>> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the other three for most tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Existing solutions
>>>>> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons. The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons.?
>>>>>
>>>>> My suggested solution
>>>>> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible improvements
>>>>> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode, the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light up so that I can change channels.
>>>>> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I've done so far
>>>>> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
>>>>> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and successfully sent them again
>>>>> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
>>>>> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>>>>>
>>>>> Next steps
>>>>> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this further?
>>>>> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Gerrit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
>>>> ?
>>>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>

From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 11:33:51 2015
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:33:51 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] =?utf-8?q?Arduino_Uno_=C2=A32=2E00_delivered?=
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oMVv3Ot9EJ0F8EO+JRhzpQZOnfeN2g25Ee9S132NjViVA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6711262704.html?orderId=67628775603073

took 15 days to arrive

runs Blink aok

it offers a lot more chances to connect to Arduino by having duplicate pads
on the board and includes a strip to solder to the pcb.

For the money its worth looking at if you use a lot of Uno's

:  )))

Tim_1
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 22 13:53:27 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:53:27 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace]
 =?iso-8859-1?q?Arduino_Uno_=A32=2E00_delivere?= =?iso-8859-1?q?d?=
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS106B629ECC01100A6BBAC15C6A10@phx.gbl>

Nice find, I'll order one later, to go with the Nintendo DS touch screen that I had no need of but ordered one anyway because Ceri showed me they existed.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:22/06/2015  11:34  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Arduino Uno ?2.00 delivered </div><div>
</div>
http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6711262704.html?orderId=67628775603073

took 15 days to arrive

runs Blink aok

it offers a lot more chances to connect to Arduino by having duplicate pads
on the board and includes a strip to solder to the pcb.

For the money its worth looking at if you use a lot of Uno's

:  )))

Tim_1
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 14:51:24 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:51:24 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <712bf2f5-2eb1-44f5-8a0e-a8422e6e75de@email.android.com>
References: <712bf2f5-2eb1-44f5-8a0e-a8422e6e75de@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <726B30B6-B2C2-48D0-A690-51267CA20D47@gmail.com>

Hi there,

Thanks for all the feedback!

Justin: 
- I saw an e-ink keyboard concept last week - still not sure if it?s vapourware or not: http://www.solidsmack.com/design/new-sonder-e-ink-keyboard-changes-hot-keys-as-you-change-digital-tools/ <http://www.solidsmack.com/design/new-sonder-e-ink-keyboard-changes-hot-keys-as-you-change-digital-tools/> If I could get hold of the buttons they?re using for that keyboard it would be pretty cool!
- What button sets would you need?
- I haven?t heard of HDMI-CEC before, googled it and realised that it?s because I don?t have a ?smart? TV and because every manufacturer has a different name for it (EasyLink, SimpLink, Aquos Link, Bravia Sync etc. etc.)

Ceri: I should?ve mentioned in my original post that I don?t want to use a touch screen, as I prefer physical buttons that can be pressed without having to look at the screen and give some haptic feedback so that you know when you pressed them. 

Richard: Images like this one were the inspiration for this project:




> On 20 Jun 2015, at 13:36, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> A touch sensitive layer with an eink display would be great, it would only consume power when changing the layout, and you'd get complete freedom of what buttons you had.
> 
> As for me a useful universal remote would need quite diverse button sets, as fit example the surround amp has quite different controls to the sky box.
> 
> Much of the need for such a remote has been killed by the HDMI-CEC standards, but there still a few devices that don't behave
> 
> On 20 Jun 2015 12:41 pm, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What about using the touchscreen from Nintendo DS. .or simmla. ..
>> No actual buttons a glossy picture underneath. . Over acrilic. .. So you can still have illumination. ..  siluett cutout (laser) 
>> Bit more code for touch screen.  But only 4 I/O.
>> 
>> Although does affect shape
>> 
>> On 20 Jun 2015 12:32, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you had a recent android phone. 
>>> Then  there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...
>>> 
>>> Did I mention I like android ?
>>> 
>>> On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.
>>>> 
>>>> I would be interested in using this.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Gerrit
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> great project! Love it
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The problem
>>>>>> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the other three for most tasks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Existing solutions
>>>>>> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons. The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My suggested solution
>>>>>> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Possible improvements
>>>>>> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode, the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light up so that I can change channels.
>>>>>> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I've done so far
>>>>>> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
>>>>>> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and successfully sent them again
>>>>>> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
>>>>>> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Next steps
>>>>>> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this further?
>>>>>> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than one?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Gerrit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>> 
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Mon Jun 22 15:11:38 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:11:38 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <726B30B6-B2C2-48D0-A690-51267CA20D47@gmail.com>
References: <712bf2f5-2eb1-44f5-8a0e-a8422e6e75de@email.android.com>
	<726B30B6-B2C2-48D0-A690-51267CA20D47@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1434982298.28730.7.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 14:51 +0100, Gerrit Niezen wrote:

> Justin: 
> - I saw an e-ink keyboard concept last week - still not sure if it?s
> vapourware or not:
> http://www.solidsmack.com/design/new-sonder-e-ink-keyboard-changes-hot-keys-as-you-change-digital-tools/ If I could get hold of the buttons they?re using for that keyboard it would be pretty cool!

Reminds me of the older, and fabulously expensive Maximus keyboard made
by Art Lebedev, an oled display in each keycap.

> - What button sets would you need?
most devices need menu, next/prev, play/pause, volup/voldown, and
direction pad controls, but an amp has some unique things like input
source and sound mode controls that get used a lot.

> - I haven?t heard of HDMI-CEC before, googled it and realised that
> it?s because I don?t have a ?smart? TV and because every manufacturer
> has a different name for it (EasyLink, SimpLink, Aquos Link, Bravia
> Sync etc. etc.)
tv, bluray and chromecast all respond to the tv controller, amp would if
it wasnt so old, and sky box claims CEC support now as well.






From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jun 22 15:42:02 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:42:02 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <726B30B6-B2C2-48D0-A690-51267CA20D47@gmail.com>
References: <712bf2f5-2eb1-44f5-8a0e-a8422e6e75de@email.android.com>
	<726B30B6-B2C2-48D0-A690-51267CA20D47@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvA9iPS5b8JEA9NBEmdAGYxKYZB4viHF6Ap5ONRsHW1zCg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gerrit,
Yep I can certainly relate to that image and the inspiration.

It's so hard when you get a phone call from a frustrated family member only
hours after you've been at her house and trying to verbally explain to an
octogenarian how to make a simple sequence of keypresses on two remote
controls is awfully hard - especially after 10 mins of dialogue you realise
she's holding the spare cordless phone and not the TV remote at all!!

Good luck with this worthwhile project.

Richard

P.S. I've also considered setting up an IR blaster transmitter in her house
and an IR receiver in my house so that I could point the remote at the IR
received in my house and have it transmit the signal to her house over the
internet to the IR blaster there that would send the IR signal to her
TV/Skybox....no idea if it's possible.

On 22 June 2015 at 14:51, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for all the feedback!
>
> Justin:
> - I saw an e-ink keyboard concept last week - still not sure if it?s
> vapourware or not:
> http://www.solidsmack.com/design/new-sonder-e-ink-keyboard-changes-hot-keys-as-you-change-digital-tools/ If
> I could get hold of the buttons they?re using for that keyboard it would be
> pretty cool!
> - What button sets would you need?
> - I haven?t heard of HDMI-CEC before, googled it and realised that it?s
> because I don?t have a ?smart? TV and because every manufacturer has a
> different name for it (EasyLink, SimpLink, Aquos Link, Bravia Sync etc.
> etc.)
>
> Ceri: I should?ve mentioned in my original post that I don?t want to use a
> touch screen, as I prefer physical buttons that can be pressed without
> having to look at the screen and give some haptic feedback so that you know
> when you pressed them.
>
> Richard: Images like this one were the inspiration for this project:
>
>
>
> On 20 Jun 2015, at 13:36, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> A touch sensitive layer with an eink display would be great, it would only
> consume power when changing the layout, and you'd get complete freedom of
> what buttons you had.
>
> As for me a useful universal remote would need quite diverse button sets,
> as fit example the surround amp has quite different controls to the sky box.
>
> Much of the need for such a remote has been killed by the HDMI-CEC
> standards, but there still a few devices that don't behave
>
> On 20 Jun 2015 12:41 pm, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> What about using the touchscreen from Nintendo DS. .or simmla. ..
> No actual buttons a glossy picture underneath. . Over acrilic. .. So you
> can still have illumination. ..  siluett cutout (laser)
> Bit more code for touch screen.  But only 4 I/O.
>
> Although does affect shape
>
> On 20 Jun 2015 12:32, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> If you had a recent android phone.
> Then  there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...
>
> Did I mention I like android [image: ?]
>
> On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV
> REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels
> - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.
>
> I would be interested in using this.
>
> Thanks Gerrit
>
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>
> great project! Love it
>
> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The problem
> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo
> and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What
> I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the
> other three for most tasks.
>
> Existing solutions
> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons. The
> Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the ?100
> range and still have a lot of buttons.
>
> My suggested solution
> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
> depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
> template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
> remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>
> Possible improvements
> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode,
> the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light
> up so that I can change channels.
> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
> halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>
> What I've done so far
> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
> successfully sent them again
> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>
> Next steps
> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
> further?
> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than
> one?
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
>
> ?
> ?
>
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>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:20:18 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:20:18 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS109B45E57EC5E8AD60C6960C6A10@phx.gbl>

Apart from having some kind of dynamic dns on her end, this sounds like a project for the esp8266 running on arduino firmware.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> </div><div>Date:22/06/2015  15:43  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control </div><div>
</div>Hi Gerrit,
Yep I can certainly relate to that image and the inspiration. 

It's so hard when you get a phone call from a frustrated family member only hours after you've been at her house and trying to verbally explain to an octogenarian how to make a simple sequence of keypresses on two remote controls is awfully hard - especially after 10 mins of dialogue you realise she's holding the spare cordless phone and not the TV remote at all!! 

Good luck with this worthwhile project.

Richard

P.S. I've also considered setting up an IR blaster transmitter in her house and an IR receiver in my house so that I could point the remote at the IR received in my house and have it transmit the signal to her house over the internet to the IR blaster there that would send the IR signal to her TV/Skybox....no idea if it's possible.

On 22 June 2015 at 14:51, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there,

Thanks for all the feedback!

Justin: 
- I saw an e-ink keyboard concept last week - still not sure if it?s vapourware or not: http://www.solidsmack.com/design/new-sonder-e-ink-keyboard-changes-hot-keys-as-you-change-digital-tools/ If I could get hold of the buttons they?re using for that keyboard it would be pretty cool!
- What button sets would you need?
- I haven?t heard of HDMI-CEC before, googled it and realised that it?s because I don?t have a ?smart? TV and because every manufacturer has a different name for it (EasyLink, SimpLink, Aquos Link, Bravia Sync etc. etc.)

Ceri: I should?ve mentioned in my original post that I don?t want to use a touch screen, as I prefer physical buttons that can be pressed without having to look at the screen and give some haptic feedback so that you know when you pressed them. 

Richard: Images like this one were the inspiration for this project:




On 20 Jun 2015, at 13:36, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:

A touch sensitive layer with an eink display would be great, it would only consume power when changing the layout, and you'd get complete freedom of what buttons you had.

As for me a useful universal remote would need quite diverse button sets, as fit example the surround amp has quite different controls to the sky box.

Much of the need for such a remote has been killed by the HDMI-CEC standards, but there still a few devices that don't behave

On 20 Jun 2015 12:41 pm, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

What about using the touchscreen from Nintendo DS. .or simmla. ..
No actual buttons a glossy picture underneath. . Over acrilic. .. So you can still have illumination. ..  siluett cutout (laser) 
Bit more code for touch screen.  But only 4 I/O.

Although does affect shape

On 20 Jun 2015 12:32, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:

If you had a recent android phone.
Then there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...

Did I mention I like android 

On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:

A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.

I would be interested in using this.

Thanks Gerrit

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

great project! Love it

On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

The problem
I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the other three for most tasks.

Existing solutions
Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons. The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons.

My suggested solution
An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.

Possible improvements
- LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode, the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light up so that I can change channels.
- Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.

What I've done so far
- Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
- Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and successfully sent them again
- Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
- Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)

Next steps
- Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this further?
- Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than one?

Cheers,
Gerrit


?
?

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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 22 18:42:13 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:42:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Minimal and bespoke TV remote control
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvA9iPS5b8JEA9NBEmdAGYxKYZB4viHF6Ap5ONRsHW1zCg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <712bf2f5-2eb1-44f5-8a0e-a8422e6e75de@email.android.com>
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Richard, anything is possible if you can pay me enough ;-)

Em

On 22 June 2015 at 15:42, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Gerrit,
> Yep I can certainly relate to that image and the inspiration.
>
> It's so hard when you get a phone call from a frustrated family member
> only hours after you've been at her house and trying to verbally explain to
> an octogenarian how to make a simple sequence of keypresses on two remote
> controls is awfully hard - especially after 10 mins of dialogue you realise
> she's holding the spare cordless phone and not the TV remote at all!!
>
> Good luck with this worthwhile project.
>
> Richard
>
> P.S. I've also considered setting up an IR blaster transmitter in her
> house and an IR receiver in my house so that I could point the remote at
> the IR received in my house and have it transmit the signal to her house
> over the internet to the IR blaster there that would send the IR signal to
> her TV/Skybox....no idea if it's possible.
>
> On 22 June 2015 at 14:51, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Thanks for all the feedback!
>>
>> Justin:
>> - I saw an e-ink keyboard concept last week - still not sure if it?s
>> vapourware or not:
>> http://www.solidsmack.com/design/new-sonder-e-ink-keyboard-changes-hot-keys-as-you-change-digital-tools/ If
>> I could get hold of the buttons they?re using for that keyboard it would be
>> pretty cool!
>> - What button sets would you need?
>> - I haven?t heard of HDMI-CEC before, googled it and realised that it?s
>> because I don?t have a ?smart? TV and because every manufacturer has a
>> different name for it (EasyLink, SimpLink, Aquos Link, Bravia Sync etc.
>> etc.)
>>
>> Ceri: I should?ve mentioned in my original post that I don?t want to use
>> a touch screen, as I prefer physical buttons that can be pressed without
>> having to look at the screen and give some haptic feedback so that you know
>> when you pressed them.
>>
>> Richard: Images like this one were the inspiration for this project:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2015, at 13:36, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A touch sensitive layer with an eink display would be great, it would
>> only consume power when changing the layout, and you'd get complete freedom
>> of what buttons you had.
>>
>> As for me a useful universal remote would need quite diverse button sets,
>> as fit example the surround amp has quite different controls to the sky box.
>>
>> Much of the need for such a remote has been killed by the HDMI-CEC
>> standards, but there still a few devices that don't behave
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2015 12:41 pm, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> What about using the touchscreen from Nintendo DS. .or simmla. ..
>> No actual buttons a glossy picture underneath. . Over acrilic. .. So you
>> can still have illumination. ..  siluett cutout (laser)
>> Bit more code for touch screen.  But only 4 I/O.
>>
>> Although does affect shape
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2015 12:32, "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you had a recent android phone.
>> Then  there is an app to be a tv video dvd remote control. ...
>>
>> Did I mention I like android [image: ?]
>>
>> On 19 Jun 2015 22:22, "Richard Morgan" <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> A family member is elderly and struggles with the need to use the TV
>> REMOTE to change the source and then the SKY REMOTE to manage the channels
>> - having a single remote covering all her needs would be great.
>>
>> I would be interested in using this.
>>
>> Thanks Gerrit
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 at 17:07 Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> great project! Love it
>>
>> On 19 June 2015 at 16:58, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The problem
>> I have three different remote controls that I use to control my TV, Tivo
>> and NowTV, and I only use a few buttons on each one of these remotes. What
>> I would like is a minimal, customisable remote control that can replace the
>> other three for most tasks.
>>
>> Existing solutions
>> Universal remotes are cheap but mostly crap and have too many buttons.
>> The Logitech Harmony remotes seem the easiest to use, but they're in the
>> ?100 range and still have a lot of buttons.
>>
>> My suggested solution
>> An open-source hardware remote where you can customise the buttons
>> depending on your needs, for example by milling your own based on a button
>> template. The remote should be easy to program, by pointing existing
>> remotes at infrared receiver on the custom remote.
>>
>> Possible improvements
>> - LEDs inside buttons that light up when they can be used (that is,
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161666687066). For example, if I'm in TV mode,
>> the "back" button isn't going to work, but the up/down buttons should light
>> up so that I can change channels.
>> - Using bamboo for the enclosure - a piece of 50cm-wide bamboo can be
>> halved to make a semi-circular shape that fits in your hand.
>>
>> What I've done so far
>> - Got the infrared diode and receiver working on an Arduino
>> - Recorded infrared signals from my three different remotes and
>> successfully sent them again
>> - Cut some bamboo to see if the shape will work
>> - Drew some crude pictures of what it will look like (attached)
>>
>> Next steps
>> - Is anyone at Swansea Hackspace interested in helping me develop this
>> further?
>> - Would anyone be interested in buying one of these if we make more than
>> one?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerrit
>>
>>
>> ?
>> ?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> addressed.
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 11:12:20 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:12:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming events
Message-ID: <1435140740.17187.13.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

Upcoming Events
===============

Wed  1st Jul  7pm - Laser Cutter Induction Course
Thu 23rd Jul  7pm - Introduction to GIT version control system
Sat  1st Aug 12pm - Laser Cut Rubber Stamping


Details
=======

When: 7pm Wednesday 1st July 2015 
What: Laser Cutter Induction Course 
Who: Members Only
Price: ?5 
Tickets:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/laser-cutter-induction-tickets-17411879400

This is an induction course on how to safely use the laser cutter, it
will cover setting up and checking the equipment, types of materials
that can be used, using the software to drive the system and engraving
and cutting a range of materials. The Course fee includes all materials
and laser time.

This course is required if you want to use the equipment outside of
supervised workshops.

If you would like to experiment with your own logo designs, please bring
them as black on white in an .emf (enhanced metafile) format, otherwise
one will be provided.

-------------
When: 7pm Thursday 23rd July 2015 
What: Introduction to Git 
Price: Free 
Who: Open to all

A brief introduction to Git - a popular, open source version control
system.

--------------
When: 12-4pm Saturday 1st August 2015 
What: Laser Cut Rubber Stamping 
Price: Members ?5, Non-members ?10 
Who: Open to all, members get a discount on ticket price.
Tickets:
http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/rubber-stamp-making-workshop-tickets-17495047157

Ever wanted your own custom personalised rubber stamp?

This workshop will take you through turning your own text, logo or other
design into a rubber stamp in minutes using our laser cutter and some
specialised rubber sheeting. You get to keep your finished stamp (max
approx 50x50mm). It will help greatly if you have already selected some
artwork to use.

Stamping isn't just for ink and paper either, you can personalise
clothing, decorate pottery, make custom wallpaper, and many other
artistic and creative uses

This workshop is open to members and non-members alike, no previous
experience is required, and all materials will be provided. You may like
to bring your own laptop to work on your design during the workshop, we
suggest using the opensource Inkscape software




From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun 24 12:16:13 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:16:13 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <1435140740.17187.13.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1435140740.17187.13.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NnnJ1iqN2AkOVPgfH3Dw6ZFMXFNDaBZgMEXeFKAkD=Hw@mail.gmail.com>

hi there - I have Inkscape (on my macbook), but it does not have the
ability to turn the inkscape file into .emf

it can save as .svg

would it be safe to use one of the online converters?

On 24 June 2015 at 11:12, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> Upcoming Events
> ===============
>
> Wed  1st Jul  7pm - Laser Cutter Induction Course
> Thu 23rd Jul  7pm - Introduction to GIT version control system
> Sat  1st Aug 12pm - Laser Cut Rubber Stamping
>
>
> Details
> =======
>
> When: 7pm Wednesday 1st July 2015
> What: Laser Cutter Induction Course
> Who: Members Only
> Price: ?5
> Tickets:
> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/laser-cutter-induction-tickets-17411879400
>
> This is an induction course on how to safely use the laser cutter, it
> will cover setting up and checking the equipment, types of materials
> that can be used, using the software to drive the system and engraving
> and cutting a range of materials. The Course fee includes all materials
> and laser time.
>
> This course is required if you want to use the equipment outside of
> supervised workshops.
>
> If you would like to experiment with your own logo designs, please bring
> them as black on white in an .emf (enhanced metafile) format, otherwise
> one will be provided.
>
> -------------
> When: 7pm Thursday 23rd July 2015
> What: Introduction to Git
> Price: Free
> Who: Open to all
>
> A brief introduction to Git - a popular, open source version control
> system.
>
> --------------
> When: 12-4pm Saturday 1st August 2015
> What: Laser Cut Rubber Stamping
> Price: Members ?5, Non-members ?10
> Who: Open to all, members get a discount on ticket price.
> Tickets:
>
> http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/rubber-stamp-making-workshop-tickets-17495047157
>
> Ever wanted your own custom personalised rubber stamp?
>
> This workshop will take you through turning your own text, logo or other
> design into a rubber stamp in minutes using our laser cutter and some
> specialised rubber sheeting. You get to keep your finished stamp (max
> approx 50x50mm). It will help greatly if you have already selected some
> artwork to use.
>
> Stamping isn't just for ink and paper either, you can personalise
> clothing, decorate pottery, make custom wallpaper, and many other
> artistic and creative uses
>
> This workshop is open to members and non-members alike, no previous
> experience is required, and all materials will be provided. You may like
> to bring your own laptop to work on your design during the workshop, we
> suggest using the opensource Inkscape software
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 12:33:57 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:33:57 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming events
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	<CAGAFX7NnnJ1iqN2AkOVPgfH3Dw6ZFMXFNDaBZgMEXeFKAkD=Hw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 12:16 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> hi there - I have Inkscape (on my macbook), but it does not have the
> ability to turn the inkscape file into .emf

Curious, i wonder which version that came in then.
release notes for 0.91 say emf went cross-platform in that release.

> it can save as .svg
> would it be safe to use one of the online converters?
Probably.

If it fails, the inkscape on the cnc workstation can do it.





From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun 24 12:35:30 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:35:30 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <1435145637.17187.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1435140740.17187.13.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NnnJ1iqN2AkOVPgfH3Dw6ZFMXFNDaBZgMEXeFKAkD=Hw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1435145637.17187.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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I will check my version and if necessary update it. thanks

On 24 June 2015 at 12:33, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 12:16 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > hi there - I have Inkscape (on my macbook), but it does not have the
> > ability to turn the inkscape file into .emf
>
> Curious, i wonder which version that came in then.
> release notes for 0.91 say emf went cross-platform in that release.
>
> > it can save as .svg
> > would it be safe to use one of the online converters?
> Probably.
>
> If it fails, the inkscape on the cnc workstation can do it.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Wed Jun 24 13:57:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:57:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7O0-6Py=gN7Uit8GJ7R9OxX1JacvF8d6NeVChBkLJAqNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1435140740.17187.13.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NnnJ1iqN2AkOVPgfH3Dw6ZFMXFNDaBZgMEXeFKAkD=Hw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1435145637.17187.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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transpires my Inskape install was _much_ older than I imagined! LOL

Installing now - got my fingers crossed

thank you for that heads up!

kind regards

Emyr

On 24 June 2015 at 12:35, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I will check my version and if necessary update it. thanks
>
> On 24 June 2015 at 12:33, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 12:16 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
>> > hi there - I have Inkscape (on my macbook), but it does not have the
>> > ability to turn the inkscape file into .emf
>>
>> Curious, i wonder which version that came in then.
>> release notes for 0.91 say emf went cross-platform in that release.
>>
>> > it can save as .svg
>> > would it be safe to use one of the online converters?
>> Probably.
>>
>> If it fails, the inkscape on the cnc workstation can do it.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 14:48:08 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:48:08 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Upcoming events
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MLt7bpxAeMnKO2s3fY4-1czcF9qd30BjocQubsDokdWA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAGAFX7NnnJ1iqN2AkOVPgfH3Dw6ZFMXFNDaBZgMEXeFKAkD=Hw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1435145637.17187.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7O0-6Py=gN7Uit8GJ7R9OxX1JacvF8d6NeVChBkLJAqNA@mail.gmail.com>
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Me too - v0.48 on MacOSX now upto v0.91!!

On 24 June 2015 at 13:57, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> transpires my Inskape install was _much_ older than I imagined! LOL
>
> Installing now - got my fingers crossed
>
> thank you for that heads up!
>
> kind regards
>
> Emyr
>
> On 24 June 2015 at 12:35, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I will check my version and if necessary update it. thanks
>>
>> On 24 June 2015 at 12:33, Justin Mitchell <
>> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 12:16 +0100, Emyr Morris wrote:
>>> > hi there - I have Inkscape (on my macbook), but it does not have the
>>> > ability to turn the inkscape file into .emf
>>>
>>> Curious, i wonder which version that came in then.
>>> release notes for 0.91 say emf went cross-platform in that release.
>>>
>>> > it can save as .svg
>>> > would it be safe to use one of the online converters?
>>> Probably.
>>>
>>> If it fails, the inkscape on the cnc workstation can do it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> yn unig.
>>
>
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Jun 26 12:09:58 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:09:58 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
Message-ID: <1435316998.17026.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

This monday's social will be one year (-1 day) since our first meeting
in the space!

Suggestions on ways to mark the occasion ?
 



From eclipse at sucs.org  Fri Jun 26 12:12:40 2015
From: eclipse at sucs.org (Tim Clark)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:12:40 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
In-Reply-To: <1435316998.17026.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1435316998.17026.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <558D33A8.4060308@sucs.org>

Pizza?

Tim

On 26/06/2015 12:09, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> This monday's social will be one year (-1 day) since our first meeting
> in the space!
>
> Suggestions on ways to mark the occasion ?
>   
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 12:28:04 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:28:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
In-Reply-To: <558D33A8.4060308@sucs.org>
References: <1435316998.17026.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<558D33A8.4060308@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <558D3744.2000304@aurinia.co.uk>


On 26/06/15 12:12, Tim Clark wrote:
> Pizza?
>
> Tim


Yes that would have been my suggestion. If we had a massive space for 
example we could organise a big party, but of course we don't

Neil
>
> On 26/06/2015 12:09, Justin Mitchell wrote:
>> This monday's social will be one year (-1 day) since our first meeting
>> in the space!
>>
>> Suggestions on ways to mark the occasion ?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 12:30:40 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:30:40 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
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References: <1435316998.17026.2.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <DUB110-W2948D623DD420D4C6E231F8AAD0@phx.gbl>

Funny enough it is also Swansea Software Dev Committee's 1 year also.Joint party maybe?...

> From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:09:58 +0100
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
> 
> This monday's social will be one year (-1 day) since our first meeting
> in the space!
> 
> Suggestions on ways to mark the occasion ?
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 17:44:46 2015
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:44:46 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
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sorry community*
dam auto correct

From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:30:40 +0100
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary




Funny enough it is also Swansea Software Dev Committee's 1 year also.Joint party maybe?...

> From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:09:58 +0100
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] first anniversary
> 
> This monday's social will be one year (-1 day) since our first meeting
> in the space!
> 
> Suggestions on ways to mark the occasion ?
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
 		 	   		  

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 11:51:25 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:51:25 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Cheap Mac Parts
Message-ID: <CANSRvvB_nAxwATEeBHVfCF_FC9a2SK24aXMw_Ba3CjYig+d4cQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
Anyone found a good place for MacBook spares?

I have a mid-2010 2.4GHz MacBook and the Logic Board has gone - getting red
lines down the screen and it's freezing up.

Looked on eBay and there's a couple offered from USA and Hong Kong but not
many sales from the sellers so not sure on shelling out ?200+.

All help gratefully received.

Thanks,

Richard


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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 11:57:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:57:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Cheap Mac Parts
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvB_nAxwATEeBHVfCF_FC9a2SK24aXMw_Ba3CjYig+d4cQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvB_nAxwATEeBHVfCF_FC9a2SK24aXMw_Ba3CjYig+d4cQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Objo94wUb=27JWiy4dnH5m4g_iHPPW_MREWrzM8q5QYg@mail.gmail.com>

I would be tempted to order from the mac shop in swansea if the macbook was
an important tool - at least you would know it was a good and genuine part
and that it won't let you down.



On 29 June 2015 at 11:51, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi All,
> Anyone found a good place for MacBook spares?
>
> I have a mid-2010 2.4GHz MacBook and the Logic Board has gone - getting
> red lines down the screen and it's freezing up.
>
> Looked on eBay and there's a couple offered from USA and Hong Kong but not
> many sales from the sellers so not sure on shelling out ?200+.
>
> All help gratefully received.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 12:30:01 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:30:01 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Cheap Mac Parts
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Objo94wUb=27JWiy4dnH5m4g_iHPPW_MREWrzM8q5QYg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAGAFX7Objo94wUb=27JWiy4dnH5m4g_iHPPW_MREWrzM8q5QYg@mail.gmail.com>
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Cheers Emyr - didn't know there was one!

It's a secondary Mac and not main but still want quality parts for it.

On Monday, 29 June 2015, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> I would be tempted to order from the mac shop in swansea if the macbook
> was an important tool - at least you would know it was a good and genuine
> part and that it won't let you down.
>
>
>
> On 29 June 2015 at 11:51, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Anyone found a good place for MacBook spares?
>>
>> I have a mid-2010 2.4GHz MacBook and the Logic Board has gone - getting
>> red lines down the screen and it's freezing up.
>>
>> Looked on eBay and there's a couple offered from USA and Hong Kong but
>> not many sales from the sellers so not sure on shelling out ?200+.
>>
>> All help gratefully received.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
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>
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 12:37:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:37:04 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Cheap Mac Parts
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvD4pNj564eHddWCeAqiDA4rFEn+scB7FuPHZ999huR0qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvB_nAxwATEeBHVfCF_FC9a2SK24aXMw_Ba3CjYig+d4cQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7Objo94wUb=27JWiy4dnH5m4g_iHPPW_MREWrzM8q5QYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANSRvvD4pNj564eHddWCeAqiDA4rFEn+scB7FuPHZ999huR0qg@mail.gmail.com>
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it isn't a real mac store it is a premium reseller - it is just up from the
Mc Donalds in the city centre - they are as reasonable as they can be on
parts

73 Emyr

On 29 June 2015 at 12:30, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Cheers Emyr - didn't know there was one!
>
> It's a secondary Mac and not main but still want quality parts for it.
>
>
> On Monday, 29 June 2015, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> I would be tempted to order from the mac shop in swansea if the macbook
>> was an important tool - at least you would know it was a good and genuine
>> part and that it won't let you down.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 June 2015 at 11:51, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Anyone found a good place for MacBook spares?
>>>
>>> I have a mid-2010 2.4GHz MacBook and the Logic Board has gone - getting
>>> red lines down the screen and it's freezing up.
>>>
>>> Looked on eBay and there's a couple offered from USA and Hong Kong but
>>> not many sales from the sellers so not sure on shelling out ?200+.
>>>
>>> All help gratefully received.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> addressed.
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>> yn unig.
>>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Mon Jun 29 12:50:51 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:50:51 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights social
Message-ID: <1435578651.8270.34.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

Free Pizza!

Now i have your attention... :) 
Tonight has been declared the first anniversary of us holding our first
social in the Hackspace, so to celebrate we are shipping in the pizza,
and cracking open the beer supply.

As always this evening is free and open to anyone that wants to come
along and join in.

See you there, from 7pm onwards




From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 13:35:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:35:21 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights social
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References: <1435578651.8270.34.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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YAY!

On 29 June 2015 at 12:50, Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> Free Pizza!
>
> Now i have your attention... :)
> Tonight has been declared the first anniversary of us holding our first
> social in the Hackspace, so to celebrate we are shipping in the pizza,
> and cracking open the beer supply.
>
> As always this evening is free and open to anyone that wants to come
> along and join in.
>
> See you there, from 7pm onwards
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 14:03:46 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:03:46 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] measuring geomacnetic activity
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MzHm+YJwgg=CJ-Gp+u_F2AyQrSv9Uxn5Q1rvS=AqD3-A@mail.gmail.com>

This little sensor the HMC5883L is low cost and very powerful

it can be used to measure magnetic field in x, y and z and can even measure
activity as experienced over the past two weeks due to CME/Solar Flare

for more about the sensor see

http://www.meccanismocomplesso.org/en/arduino-magnetic-magnetic-magnetometer-hmc5883l/

and a blog article on measuring activity

http://gm1sxx.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-clue-is-in-name-other-uses-for.html

the chap who did the blog post spent about $20 on the entire project. A
true Scottsman ;-)

All very clever stuff!

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 15:06:10 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:06:10 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights social
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	<CAGAFX7PQyR++eWXv2CJ1raLAdpVbTv4cpg3H_TN7S-zGKT0ihQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Great achievement and well done to the Directors....

and the members! :-)

Will be with you in spirit tonight - have a slice for me.
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 15:15:02 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:15:02 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Tonights social
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can I have your slice Richard? ;-)

On 29 June 2015 at 15:06, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
wrote:

> Great achievement and well done to the Directors....
>
> and the members! :-)
>
> Will be with you in spirit tonight - have a slice for me.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 21:41:42 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:41:42 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tonight's celebration
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OLV7qjPbv7JeD-raSHLT1hTte46TObTbRVh2zx8Txbmw@mail.gmail.com>

we could have made tonight a party to celebrate that after 12 months they
have finally repaired the broken toilet seat up here on the 4th floor! :-o
:-) ;-)

Great pizza - thank you

And yes, you were missed Richard

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 21:53:50 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:53:50 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] tonight's celebration
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Awww - you say the sweetest.... ;-)

Really gutted I'm not there, and not just for the Pizza.

It's another milestone in Swansea Hackspace's history, looking forward to
many, many more *smile*

On 29 June 2015 at 21:41, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> we could have made tonight a party to celebrate that after 12 months they
> have finally repaired the broken toilet seat up here on the 4th floor! :-o
> :-) ;-)
>
> Great pizza - thank you
>
> And yes, you were missed Richard
>
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> addressed.
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> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
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From em at preseli.com  Mon Jun 29 22:23:55 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:23:55 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d print refinement - hat tip Ceri
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NzF4wWu8j88BbV_QAUBSvAVYN6cGNYnDD5Xx5xgtRuig@mail.gmail.com>

I have always been disappointed with the top layer of my 3d prints

A chance discussion with Ceri came up with a suggestion of altering the
'factor' for the top layer which would squeeze out more filament - In
Slicer I altered the top layer to extrude 150% - this has resulted in a
very smooth top layer - success!
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Jun 30 11:09:20 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:09:20 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] hackable I wonder?
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OHJ4tzYFwFH8QXH_113WqvmgATu9WKMm2ewUsMgdSosw@mail.gmail.com>

this is the wifi switch I mentioned last night

Silvercrest wifi switch

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?action=showDetail&id=24606

I wonder what we can do with it?

I bought a Wemo in Maplin when they had it on offer last year - that has
turned out to be quite good - Maplin for once had it cheaper than anywhere
else including amazon/ebay.

The WeMo integrates with IFTTT which makes it very powerful especially now
that we have the new Maker channel on IFTTT

Em

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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 22:55:50 2015
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:55:50 +0100
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bits for 3D printing
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oN+ydSasxzOxG2eTrkssG0nw4YLr-6CvpmrqWc8xFCiow@mail.gmail.com>

I understand the cogs/pulleys that drive the moving platforms have a 6mm
core ?

is there a preferred source of supply for these cogs, the spindles they are
mounted on and the belts connecting them ?

My naming of the parts might not be correct but  my needs duplicate the
same needs a 3D printer has, and I don't want to re-invent the wheel !

:  ))

Tim_1
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