From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  7 15:15:29 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:15:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS265AE69D29E8607E41B0750C6170@phx.gbl>

Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.

I just tried to use the printer from the PC nearest to but it says cannot connect to printer.

Any idea how i can get it to connect, trined power cycle the printer already.
No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Sat Nov  7 15:30:40 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:30:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS265AE69D29E8607E41B0750C6170@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS265AE69D29E8607E41B0750C6170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20151107153040.7a15e095@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:15:29 +0000
David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.

VESA MIS-E C (200 x 100mm M4)






From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov  7 15:31:52 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:31:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS265AE69D29E8607E41B0750C6170@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS265AE69D29E8607E41B0750C6170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MHnHieh+tRB69FvwrHnt4LkrpDxmaqKCeTpoEh9=si_g@mail.gmail.com>

thanks for that.... what are the centres like on the plate of the stand?

I was thinking of getting something like one of these to interface...

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/tv-accessories/wall-brackets/logik-ltm13-tilt-tv-bracket-21163649-pdt.html

Emyr


On 7 November 2015 at 15:15, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.
>
> I just tried to use the printer from the PC nearest to but it says cannot
> connect to printer.
>
> Any idea how i can get it to connect, trined power cycle the printer
> already.
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov  7 15:34:36 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:34:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MHnHieh+tRB69FvwrHnt4LkrpDxmaqKCeTpoEh9=si_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS265AE69D29E8607E41B0750C6170@phx.gbl>
	<CAGAFX7MHnHieh+tRB69FvwrHnt4LkrpDxmaqKCeTpoEh9=si_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MQG4Gokv__2xsvP4CcQxmf0AMAeDYkv80g-CyjDGMX5g@mail.gmail.com>

Found it.... this one ?15 was the one!

http://www.screwfix.com/p/secura-by-sanus-lcd-plasma-led-wall-mount-low-profile-fixed-22-37/28049

On 7 November 2015 at 15:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> thanks for that.... what are the centres like on the plate of the stand?
>
> I was thinking of getting something like one of these to interface...
>
>
> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/tv-accessories/wall-brackets/logik-ltm13-tilt-tv-bracket-21163649-pdt.html
>
> Emyr
>
>
> On 7 November 2015 at 15:15, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.
>>
>> I just tried to use the printer from the PC nearest to but it says cannot
>> connect to printer.
>>
>> Any idea how i can get it to connect, trined power cycle the printer
>> already.
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>



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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  7 17:17:05 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 17:17:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS104FF5EF88B14644AEA25B8C6170@phx.gbl>

Sorry, I should have measured them, the plate of the stand looks about X30cm * Y25cm.

If we have bolts and washers,  some 10-15mm MDF should be sufficient to make an adaptor plate.

If anyone happens to have a little steel plate I'm sure there would be a little more confidence in it.




No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:07/11/2015  15:35  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use </div><div>
</div>
Found it.... this one ?15 was the one!

http://www.screwfix.com/p/secura-by-sanus-lcd-plasma-led-wall-mount-low-profile-fixed-22-37/28049

On 7 November 2015 at 15:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> thanks for that.... what are the centres like on the plate of the stand?
>
> I was thinking of getting something like one of these to interface...
>
>
> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/tv-accessories/wall-brackets/logik-ltm13-tilt-tv-bracket-21163649-pdt.html
>
> Emyr
>
>
> On 7 November 2015 at 15:15, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.
>>
>> I just tried to use the printer from the PC nearest to but it says cannot
>> connect to printer.
>>
>> Any idea how i can get it to connect, trined power cycle the printer
>> already.
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>



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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov  7 18:02:14 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 18:02:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS104FF5EF88B14644AEA25B8C6170@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS104FF5EF88B14644AEA25B8C6170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Pa2knPffLuU1FN2CkfTVsBUsBT=YprfXoKfWRPyENN8g@mail.gmail.com>

as the stand is mine I'll happily add the screwfix option to it... the
plate on the stand may just interface direct to the tv?

E

On 7 November 2015 at 17:17, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, I should have measured them, the plate of the stand looks about
> X30cm * Y25cm.
>
> If we have bolts and washers,  some 10-15mm MDF should be sufficient to
> make an adaptor plate.
>
> If anyone happens to have a little steel plate I'm sure there would be a
> little more confidence in it.
>
>
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:07/11/2015 15:35 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
>
> Found it.... this one ?15 was the one!
>
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/p/secura-by-sanus-lcd-plasma-led-wall-mount-low-profile-fixed-22-37/28049
>
> On 7 November 2015 at 15:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> thanks for that.... what are the centres like on the plate of the stand?
>
> I was thinking of getting something like one of these to interface...
>
>
> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/tv-accessories/wall-brackets/logik-ltm13-tilt-tv-bracket-21163649-pdt.html
>
> Emyr
>
>
> On 7 November 2015 at 15:15, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.
>
> I just tried to use the printer from the PC nearest to but it says cannot
> connect to printer.
>
> Any idea how i can get it to connect, trined power cycle the printer
> already.
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  7 21:31:58 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 21:31:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS42389F4C01AF7A738F7AD7FC6170@phx.gbl>

Thinking about it, drilling a plate to sit between the two may not be quite as simple as I thought.

I'm pretty sure I saw a bracket that looked very similar to the screw fix one for ?9.99 in that bargains place (I think the name changed since the image) when I was in there earlier.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:07/11/2015  18:02  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use </div><div>
</div>
as the stand is mine I'll happily add the screwfix option to it... the
plate on the stand may just interface direct to the tv?

E

On 7 November 2015 at 17:17, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, I should have measured them, the plate of the stand looks about
> X30cm * Y25cm.
>
> If we have bolts and washers,  some 10-15mm MDF should be sufficient to
> make an adaptor plate.
>
> If anyone happens to have a little steel plate I'm sure there would be a
> little more confidence in it.
>
>
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:07/11/2015 15:35 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Bracket for loaned TV and printer use
>
> Found it.... this one ?15 was the one!
>
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/p/secura-by-sanus-lcd-plasma-led-wall-mount-low-profile-fixed-22-37/28049
>
> On 7 November 2015 at 15:31, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> thanks for that.... what are the centres like on the plate of the stand?
>
> I was thinking of getting something like one of these to interface...
>
>
> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/tv-accessories/wall-brackets/logik-ltm13-tilt-tv-bracket-21163649-pdt.html
>
> Emyr
>
>
> On 7 November 2015 at 15:15, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, TV holes are Y 10cm, X 20cm.
>
> I just tried to use the printer from the PC nearest to but it says cannot
> connect to printer.
>
> Any idea how i can get it to connect, trined power cycle the printer
> already.
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 10 11:53:02 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:53:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d Printer...
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7OuiiFTvxYDxdvf7yVDR5wE5oAJtwu2O_BnaYOx18Rssw@mail.gmail.com>

Fellow hackers

I was lusting over Ceri's magic 3d printer that is in the hackspace last
night... the one Ceri has for sale and it struck me and another fellow
hackee that maybe the Hackspace should buy the printer off Ceri...

Granted there are cheaper alternatives such as these

single extruder prusa i3 kits start at ?170
http://www.aliexpress.com/item//2026704108.html

dual extruder ones from around ?240
http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32319370910.html

these may attract customs charges when we bring them in, and we would need
to build them too... Ceri's printer has already been built plus we would
have support from member Ceri who designed and built it! :-)

Ceri is asking 285, I would like to propose we start a pledge fund, and to
start the ball rolling I am prepared to throw in my cap to the tune of ?40

six more pledges to the same amount and we are almost at Ceri's asking
price, we would then have a second printer so we don't have to hang around
while we are waiting for somebody else to finish using the printer :-)

Kind regards

Emyr

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Nov 10 12:25:07 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:25:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
Message-ID: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.

The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
wednesday evening for a few of months.

Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.

At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
solving, etc.

I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
and would include all of the hardware required.

It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg

Are many of you interested in this ?

Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?

thanks






From sarah.wathan at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 12:29:05 2015
From: sarah.wathan at gmail.com (S Wathan)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:29:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
In-Reply-To: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CABVk7RW_bdmKF8e0BiEAOKn+ApbVDSwde+0fJtsUaHVDEJD9Mg@mail.gmail.com>

Would have me thinking seriously about joining.
On 10 Nov 2015 12:25, "Justin Mitchell" <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
> next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
> what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.
>
> The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
> wednesday evening for a few of months.
>
> Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
> worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.
>
> At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
> and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
> solving, etc.
>
> I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
> and would include all of the hardware required.
>
> It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg
>
> Are many of you interested in this ?
>
> Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 10 12:44:24 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:44:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
In-Reply-To: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MR3Uyf0E28Kn+KqMLi8nhuQFU1sB9eAn41wvfbam9NjQ@mail.gmail.com>

awesome yes please :-) thank you!

Emyr

On 10 November 2015 at 12:25, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
> next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
> what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.
>
> The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
> wednesday evening for a few of months.
>
> Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
> worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.
>
> At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
> and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
> solving, etc.
>
> I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
> and would include all of the hardware required.
>
> It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg
>
> Are many of you interested in this ?
>
> Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Tue Nov 10 12:45:09 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
In-Reply-To: <CABVk7RW_bdmKF8e0BiEAOKn+ApbVDSwde+0fJtsUaHVDEJD9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CABVk7RW_bdmKF8e0BiEAOKn+ApbVDSwde+0fJtsUaHVDEJD9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NGfvMwZsTcuvvjpDPkq3Q0j0T5KQxUrbJYb-XbH_5nqw@mail.gmail.com>

don't think! JOIN NOW! :-) teee heee heee

On 10 November 2015 at 12:29, S Wathan <sarah.wathan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would have me thinking seriously about joining.
> On 10 Nov 2015 12:25, "Justin Mitchell" <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
>> next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
>> what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.
>>
>> The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
>> wednesday evening for a few of months.
>>
>> Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
>> worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.
>>
>> At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
>> and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
>> solving, etc.
>>
>> I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
>> and would include all of the hardware required.
>>
>> It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg
>>
>> Are many of you interested in this ?
>>
>> Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 10 13:55:38 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:55:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS18A41E2FC33D8862ABFCD2C6140@phx.gbl>

I'm interested, granted there is time to save up before the start of the course,  though Christmas etc would probably stop me, if it would be possible to pay ?10 on each of the first 4 parts of the course the cost would be a lot more manageable.

Is there an official YouTube channel for the hackspace/this course?

I would be happy to run one, or to run an unofficial segment (with permission) of the space my channel once I start producing videos again.


I also plan to start a course of similar length and timing on "building your first plane" in the new year, maybe following on after Justin's course, I'll also be looking for ideas on structure etc.


If someone experienced would do do a course on video editing, green screen and other effects I would join that course.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Date:10/11/2015  12:25  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course </div><div>
</div>
I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.

The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
wednesday evening for a few of months.

Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.

At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
solving, etc.

I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
and would include all of the hardware required.

It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg

Are many of you interested in this ?

Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?

thanks




_______________________________________________
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http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 16:14:51 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:14:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NGfvMwZsTcuvvjpDPkq3Q0j0T5KQxUrbJYb-XbH_5nqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CABVk7RW_bdmKF8e0BiEAOKn+ApbVDSwde+0fJtsUaHVDEJD9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7NGfvMwZsTcuvvjpDPkq3Q0j0T5KQxUrbJYb-XbH_5nqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8S-ahTs_z5d7VLjnOX0erA+BPYZXKmGMW6WuYHzb9-Bw@mail.gmail.com>

Robots are cool,
And at the end you will get a good knowledge base and even better,
something tangible, to show off

Ceri

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> don't think! JOIN NOW! :-) teee heee heee
>
> On 10 November 2015 at 12:29, S Wathan <sarah.wathan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would have me thinking seriously about joining.
>> On 10 Nov 2015 12:25, "Justin Mitchell" <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
>>> next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
>>> what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.
>>>
>>> The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
>>> wednesday evening for a few of months.
>>>
>>> Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
>>> worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.
>>>
>>> At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
>>> and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
>>> solving, etc.
>>>
>>> I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
>>> and would include all of the hardware required.
>>>
>>> It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg
>>>
>>> Are many of you interested in this ?
>>>
>>> Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 17:08:30 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:08:30 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d Printer...
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7OuiiFTvxYDxdvf7yVDR5wE5oAJtwu2O_BnaYOx18Rssw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OuiiFTvxYDxdvf7yVDR5wE5oAJtwu2O_BnaYOx18Rssw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8GnxQM3qv6-ZTNMyni237_AKMtv1bzzeGRkiit7GYjqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have access to a good quality table saw, see photo.

It must be capable of perfect 90 Degree cuts in 18mm chipboard.

a chop saw is nowhere near goo enough,
and needs ~600mm deep throat.

I will gladly upgrade the wood work, with what I have hear.

Cheers

Ceri


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Fellow hackers
>
> I was lusting over Ceri's magic 3d printer that is in the hackspace last
> night... the one Ceri has for sale and it struck me and another fellow
> hackee that maybe the Hackspace should buy the printer off Ceri...
>
> Granted there are cheaper alternatives such as these
>
> single extruder prusa i3 kits start at ?170
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//2026704108.html
>
> dual extruder ones from around ?240
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32319370910.html
>
> these may attract customs charges when we bring them in, and we would need
> to build them too... Ceri's printer has already been built plus we would
> have support from member Ceri who designed and built it! :-)
>
> Ceri is asking 285, I would like to propose we start a pledge fund, and to
> start the ball rolling I am prepared to throw in my cap to the tune of ?40
>
> six more pledges to the same amount and we are almost at Ceri's asking
> price, we would then have a second printer so we don't have to hang around
> while we are waiting for somebody else to finish using the printer :-)
>
> Kind regards
>
> Emyr
>
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From CRAIGLEANNEY at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Nov 10 22:48:53 2015
From: CRAIGLEANNEY at hotmail.co.uk (CRAIG LEANNEY)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:48:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
In-Reply-To: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <DB5PR02MB12088573A3BD91E79EF4B67798140@DB5PR02MB1208.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Justin

I would be interested in building an eggbot, which is a spherical printer/ drawing bot.

Cheers

Craig

________________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> on behalf of Justin Mitchell <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Sent: 10 November 2015 12:25
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course

I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.

The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
wednesday evening for a few of months.

Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.

At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
solving, etc.

I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
and would include all of the hardware required.

It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg

Are many of you interested in this ?

Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?

thanks




_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace



From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Wed Nov 11 09:32:04 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:32:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Door access
Message-ID: <1447234324.20931.4.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

The new door access system is now live,
a bunch of you should have received an invite email from Kisi which is
the smart phone app that you need to open the doors.

If anyone that didn't already have a keyfob has not had their invite
please let me know, they will have been sent to the email address you
signed up with.





From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Nov 11 10:26:02 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:26:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d Printer...
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8GnxQM3qv6-ZTNMyni237_AKMtv1bzzeGRkiit7GYjqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OuiiFTvxYDxdvf7yVDR5wE5oAJtwu2O_BnaYOx18Rssw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8GnxQM3qv6-ZTNMyni237_AKMtv1bzzeGRkiit7GYjqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8gtdoLwZ4oKUBA-bEVmXkd2FyLgPX7vhRDu0-zDKhLKg@mail.gmail.com>

Another solution

Parts list for a re-build
6 smooth rod 400mm   (think that one has 333mm rods, but not sure .. little
longer is nice)  - have seen cheaper - Purser kit ?

?6.50 ea --
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303-GRADE-STAINLESS-STEEL-Round-Bar-Steel-Rod-Metal-2mm-12mm-Diameter/111798182911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Df5a49d99d8d54ad2aed48fea0b0ecd4d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181770490833

6-8 * 8mm *LONG *linear bearings,
4-5 Steppers
1-2 hot end ?17 - Justin has found E3D copy
RAMPS or equivalent ... I think we might have a mezzi floating around.

*printed parts ??? don't know to get them :)*

2 shelf brackets,
A4 ish 6mm clear acrylic sheet

extruder drive.    ....  If/when I replace my one, then I will donate ..

some cut sheet wood - I have some - but needs cutting .. hence above saw.

PC Power supply.  -- I have 2 hear, but not sure if they work .. if I can
will look tonight

HOT BED - Aluminium is best, but not cheep, <  ?10

http://www.banggood.com/Standard-3D-Printer-3MM-MK3-Aluminum-Board-PCB-Heat-Bed-For-Reprap-p-989030.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=ebay&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=xie-GB&ebay


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Does anyone have access to a good quality table saw, see photo.
>
> It must be capable of perfect 90 Degree cuts in 18mm chipboard.
>
> a chop saw is nowhere near goo enough,
> and needs ~600mm deep throat.
>
> I will gladly upgrade the wood work, with what I have hear.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ceri
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
>> Fellow hackers
>>
>> I was lusting over Ceri's magic 3d printer that is in the hackspace last
>> night... the one Ceri has for sale and it struck me and another fellow
>> hackee that maybe the Hackspace should buy the printer off Ceri...
>>
>> Granted there are cheaper alternatives such as these
>>
>> single extruder prusa i3 kits start at ?170
>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//2026704108.html
>>
>> dual extruder ones from around ?240
>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32319370910.html
>>
>> these may attract customs charges when we bring them in, and we would
>> need to build them too... Ceri's printer has already been built plus we
>> would have support from member Ceri who designed and built it! :-)
>>
>> Ceri is asking 285, I would like to propose we start a pledge fund, and
>> to start the ball rolling I am prepared to throw in my cap to the tune of
>> ?40
>>
>> six more pledges to the same amount and we are almost at Ceri's asking
>> price, we would then have a second printer so we don't have to hang around
>> while we are waiting for somebody else to finish using the printer :-)
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
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From em at preseli.com  Wed Nov 11 10:52:13 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:52:13 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d Printer...
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8gtdoLwZ4oKUBA-bEVmXkd2FyLgPX7vhRDu0-zDKhLKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7OuiiFTvxYDxdvf7yVDR5wE5oAJtwu2O_BnaYOx18Rssw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8GnxQM3qv6-ZTNMyni237_AKMtv1bzzeGRkiit7GYjqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8gtdoLwZ4oKUBA-bEVmXkd2FyLgPX7vhRDu0-zDKhLKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7P_gLc9oUOznqtXOR7xqYc0N66z3g6tJ6mPF=jwzHT7BQ@mail.gmail.com>

all very positive, thank you Ceri. Personally I think it would be a great
asset as it is and as a long term project for the space.

Emyr

On 11 November 2015 at 10:26, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Another solution
>
> Parts list for a re-build
> 6 smooth rod 400mm   (think that one has 333mm rods, but not sure ..
> little longer is nice)  - have seen cheaper - Purser kit ?
>
> ?6.50 ea --
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303-GRADE-STAINLESS-STEEL-Round-Bar-Steel-Rod-Metal-2mm-12mm-Diameter/111798182911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Df5a49d99d8d54ad2aed48fea0b0ecd4d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181770490833
>
> 6-8 * 8mm *LONG *linear bearings,
> 4-5 Steppers
> 1-2 hot end ?17 - Justin has found E3D copy
> RAMPS or equivalent ... I think we might have a mezzi floating around.
>
> *printed parts ??? don't know to get them :)*
>
> 2 shelf brackets,
> A4 ish 6mm clear acrylic sheet
>
> extruder drive.    ....  If/when I replace my one, then I will donate ..
>
> some cut sheet wood - I have some - but needs cutting .. hence above saw.
>
> PC Power supply.  -- I have 2 hear, but not sure if they work .. if I can
> will look tonight
>
> HOT BED - Aluminium is best, but not cheep, <  ?10
>
>
> http://www.banggood.com/Standard-3D-Printer-3MM-MK3-Aluminum-Board-PCB-Heat-Bed-For-Reprap-p-989030.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=ebay&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=xie-GB&ebay
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <
> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have access to a good quality table saw, see photo.
>>
>> It must be capable of perfect 90 Degree cuts in 18mm chipboard.
>>
>> a chop saw is nowhere near goo enough,
>> and needs ~600mm deep throat.
>>
>> I will gladly upgrade the wood work, with what I have hear.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ceri
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fellow hackers
>>>
>>> I was lusting over Ceri's magic 3d printer that is in the hackspace last
>>> night... the one Ceri has for sale and it struck me and another fellow
>>> hackee that maybe the Hackspace should buy the printer off Ceri...
>>>
>>> Granted there are cheaper alternatives such as these
>>>
>>> single extruder prusa i3 kits start at ?170
>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//2026704108.html
>>>
>>> dual extruder ones from around ?240
>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32319370910.html
>>>
>>> these may attract customs charges when we bring them in, and we would
>>> need to build them too... Ceri's printer has already been built plus we
>>> would have support from member Ceri who designed and built it! :-)
>>>
>>> Ceri is asking 285, I would like to propose we start a pledge fund, and
>>> to start the ball rolling I am prepared to throw in my cap to the tune of
>>> ?40
>>>
>>> six more pledges to the same amount and we are almost at Ceri's asking
>>> price, we would then have a second printer so we don't have to hang around
>>> while we are waiting for somebody else to finish using the printer :-)
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Emyr
>>>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Nov 11 11:45:51 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:45:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] 3d Printer...
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I think this is the guy I got my rods from ..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RepRap-M8-Stainless-Steel-Smooth-Rods-8mm-for-Prusa-Mendel-i3-and-others-/321660362468?var=&hash=item4ae4739ee4:m:mKyvlLbbzA7KaU3UkdzRDGQ

Might not be the cheapest,

but the Prusa i3 will JUST be enough metal


Prusa Mendel i2: ?24.90 @ 1175 =1.06p/m

2x 350mm

2x 405mm

2x 420mm

1x 19mm Free Idler Bearing Rod

Prusa i3: ?19.90 @ 1040 = 0.96p/m

2x 370mm

2x 350mm

2x 320mm

1x 19mm Free Idler Bearing Rod

Custom Sizes:

Please send the sizes in the description

Prusa i3 Boxed: ?32.90 @ 1385 = 1.18p/m

2x 495mm

2x 470mm

2x 420mm

1x 19mm Free Idler Bearing Rod

Prusa Full Frame: ?32.90 @ 1225 = 1.34p/m

2x 470mm

2x 405mm

2x 350mm

1x 19mm Free Idler Bearing Rod

i3 Graber: ?23.90  @ 1059 1.23p/m

2x 317mm

2x 342mm

2x 400mm
1x 19mm Free Idler Bearing Rod



On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> all very positive, thank you Ceri. Personally I think it would be a great
> asset as it is and as a long term project for the space.
>
> Emyr
>
> On 11 November 2015 at 10:26, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Another solution
>>
>> Parts list for a re-build
>> 6 smooth rod 400mm   (think that one has 333mm rods, but not sure ..
>> little longer is nice)  - have seen cheaper - Purser kit ?
>>
>> ?6.50 ea --
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303-GRADE-STAINLESS-STEEL-Round-Bar-Steel-Rod-Metal-2mm-12mm-Diameter/111798182911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Df5a49d99d8d54ad2aed48fea0b0ecd4d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181770490833
>>
>> 6-8 * 8mm *LONG *linear bearings,
>> 4-5 Steppers
>> 1-2 hot end ?17 - Justin has found E3D copy
>> RAMPS or equivalent ... I think we might have a mezzi floating around.
>>
>> *printed parts ??? don't know to get them :)*
>>
>> 2 shelf brackets,
>> A4 ish 6mm clear acrylic sheet
>>
>> extruder drive.    ....  If/when I replace my one, then I will donate ..
>>
>> some cut sheet wood - I have some - but needs cutting .. hence above saw.
>>
>> PC Power supply.  -- I have 2 hear, but not sure if they work .. if I can
>> will look tonight
>>
>> HOT BED - Aluminium is best, but not cheep, <  ?10
>>
>>
>> http://www.banggood.com/Standard-3D-Printer-3MM-MK3-Aluminum-Board-PCB-Heat-Bed-For-Reprap-p-989030.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=ebay&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=xie-GB&ebay
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <
>> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have access to a good quality table saw, see photo.
>>>
>>> It must be capable of perfect 90 Degree cuts in 18mm chipboard.
>>>
>>> a chop saw is nowhere near goo enough,
>>> and needs ~600mm deep throat.
>>>
>>> I will gladly upgrade the wood work, with what I have hear.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ceri
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fellow hackers
>>>>
>>>> I was lusting over Ceri's magic 3d printer that is in the hackspace
>>>> last night... the one Ceri has for sale and it struck me and another fellow
>>>> hackee that maybe the Hackspace should buy the printer off Ceri...
>>>>
>>>> Granted there are cheaper alternatives such as these
>>>>
>>>> single extruder prusa i3 kits start at ?170
>>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//2026704108.html
>>>>
>>>> dual extruder ones from around ?240
>>>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32319370910.html
>>>>
>>>> these may attract customs charges when we bring them in, and we would
>>>> need to build them too... Ceri's printer has already been built plus we
>>>> would have support from member Ceri who designed and built it! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ceri is asking 285, I would like to propose we start a pledge fund, and
>>>> to start the ball rolling I am prepared to throw in my cap to the tune of
>>>> ?40
>>>>
>>>> six more pledges to the same amount and we are almost at Ceri's asking
>>>> price, we would then have a second printer so we don't have to hang around
>>>> while we are waiting for somebody else to finish using the printer :-)
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Emyr
>>>>
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From sarah.wathan at gmail.com  Wed Nov 11 19:30:26 2015
From: sarah.wathan at gmail.com (S Wathan)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:30:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR02MB12088573A3BD91E79EF4B67798140@DB5PR02MB1208.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1447158307.12061.25.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
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Humble.bundle.com have a book bundle of Make magazine books including 21st
century robots. Thought this might be of interest to some.
On 10 Nov 2015 22:49, "CRAIG LEANNEY" <CRAIGLEANNEY at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Justin
>
> I would be interested in building an eggbot, which is a spherical printer/
> drawing bot.
>
> Cheers
>
> Craig
>
> ________________________________________
> From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <
> hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> on behalf of Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Sent: 10 November 2015 12:25
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Build your own robot course
>
> I have previously hinted about a course i plan to run starting early
> next year, and i wanted to get a little feedback from the community on
> what they think of the idea, and any suggestions you might have.
>
> The intention is to run a 6 to 8 part course, for example every other
> wednesday evening for a few of months.
>
> Each session would be focused on one portion of the robot, how it
> worked, assembling those parts, and testing them.
>
> At the end of course everyone would have their own working robot system,
> and we would run some simple competitions in line following, maze
> solving, etc.
>
> I am estimating that the whole course would cost about ?40 for members,
> and would include all of the hardware required.
>
> It would look something like this: http://i.imgur.com/MUWSOYr.jpg
>
> Are many of you interested in this ?
>
> Do you have any suggestions/questions before i organise it ?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
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From punkaled at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov 12 07:56:36 2015
From: punkaled at yahoo.co.uk (Aled)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 07:56:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New member and some tools
Message-ID: <1447314996.47122.BPMail_high_carrier@web171201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>


Hi, just joined up, came down a couple weeks ago to meet some of you and have a look around, thought I'd say hi on here as well.

I have a load of tools at home here, however I live in a flat so some of them are just sitting in a cupboard and don't see much use as I don't have the room to work on anything and thought they might be appreciated at the hackspace, what's the deal with loaning gear to the space?

There's a few things I thought might be useful: oscilloscope (though I did notice you already have a few), some wood working tools, a small router table and also my small bench top bandsaw. The bandsaw can be bolted to a bench or I also have a fairly crude stand for it on castors, it also has a built in disc sander so is quite handy for small wood and acrylic projects.

Would they be useful to anyone? Is there room? And are there any safety issues? (PAT testing, training, people sawing/sanding their own fingers off etc.)


Cheers,
Aled.



From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Thu Nov 12 08:49:12 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:49:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New member and some tools
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References: <1447314996.47122.BPMail_high_carrier@web171201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
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Hi Aled,
Welcome to the list.

Richard


On 12 November 2015 at 07:56, Aled <punkaled at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Hi, just joined up, came down a couple weeks ago to meet some of you and
> have a look around, thought I'd say hi on here as well.
>
> I have a load of tools at home here, however I live in a flat so some of
> them are just sitting in a cupboard and don't see much use as I don't have
> the room to work on anything and thought they might be appreciated at the
> hackspace, what's the deal with loaning gear to the space?
>
> There's a few things I thought might be useful: oscilloscope (though I did
> notice you already have a few), some wood working tools, a small router
> table and also my small bench top bandsaw. The bandsaw can be bolted to a
> bench or I also have a fairly crude stand for it on castors, it also has a
> built in disc sander so is quite handy for small wood and acrylic projects.
>
> Would they be useful to anyone? Is there room? And are there any safety
> issues? (PAT testing, training, people sawing/sanding their own fingers off
> etc.)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Aled.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Nov 12 08:56:46 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:56:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New member and some tools
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References: <1447314996.47122.BPMail_high_carrier@web171201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1447318606.5756.15.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 07:56 +0000, Aled wrote:
> Hi, just joined up, came down a couple weeks ago to meet some of you
> and have a look around, thought I'd say hi on here as well.
> 
> I have a load of tools at home here, however I live in a flat so some
> of them are just sitting in a cupboard and don't see much use as I
> don't have the room to work on anything and thought they might be
> appreciated at the hackspace, what's the deal with loaning gear to the
> space?
> 
> There's a few things I thought might be useful: oscilloscope (though I
> did notice you already have a few), some wood working tools, a small
> router table and also my small bench top bandsaw. The bandsaw can be
> bolted to a bench or I also have a fairly crude stand for it on
> castors, it also has a built in disc sander so is quite handy for
> small wood and acrylic projects.
> 
> Would they be useful to anyone? Is there room? And are there any
> safety issues? (PAT testing, training, people sawing/sanding their own
> fingers off etc.)

First off, Welcome, and thanks for joining

Quite a few of the tools we have are loaned from various members, just
make sure they are clearly labeled with 'on loan' and your name, there
should be stickers for this in the stationery drawer by the door.

Oscilloscopes i think we have enough (too many? ;) of, unless it is one
that is significantly better than the pretty old ones we have.

A bandsaw would be a great addition, we regularly wish we had a way to
cut down materials to fit inside the laser cutter for example. I was
recently discussing this with other members as something we should try
to acquire in the future, so that would be wonderful.

Our policy is that people must not use any piece of equipment unless
they feel qualified to do so safely (self certification), this is
clearly signposted. We require induction courses for most of the
machines, this is to ensure you are familiar with any quirks of that
machine, how to use its interfaces, and so that you don't inadvertently
break it.

Right now we rely on honesty and there is a list on the website of who
has been inducted on which machines, but we will soon be adding an
electronic lock to certain machines to enforce this and keep better
accounting records.

If you have any more specific questions then email us, or speak to one
of the directors on a monday.





From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 13 11:13:38 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:13:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: Laser Cut Xmas Decorations
Message-ID: <1447413218.22002.16.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

When: 12-4pm Saturday 21st November 2015 
What: Laser Cut Xmas Decorations 
Price: ?5 Members, ?10 Non-members 

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/laser-cut-xmas-decorations-tickets-19011576136

A workshop on creating festive decorations out of acrylic, felt, card
and wood, using the laser cutter. Crystal clear acrylic snowflakes to
hang on the tree, greetings cards with cutouts and filigree,
personalised engraved baubles, anything your imagination can create.

Ticket prices include all time on the laser cutter and some sample
materials, a limited range of additional materials will be available for
purchase on the day, or bring your own.






From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 13 11:47:21 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:47:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: Laser Cut Xmas Decorations
In-Reply-To: <1447413218.22002.16.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1447413218.22002.16.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MPcu_gLqYG5gSE6WVTiTX8CUPwCzYb+fxcAF0UijHm1A@mail.gmail.com>

thank you

On 13 November 2015 at 11:13, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> When: 12-4pm Saturday 21st November 2015
> What: Laser Cut Xmas Decorations
> Price: ?5 Members, ?10 Non-members
>
>
> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/laser-cut-xmas-decorations-tickets-19011576136
>
> A workshop on creating festive decorations out of acrylic, felt, card
> and wood, using the laser cutter. Crystal clear acrylic snowflakes to
> hang on the tree, greetings cards with cutouts and filigree,
> personalised engraved baubles, anything your imagination can create.
>
> Ticket prices include all time on the laser cutter and some sample
> materials, a limited range of additional materials will be available for
> purchase on the day, or bring your own.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 13 13:29:38 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:29:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>

Hello all, what is the price of the UNO R3 we have at the space??


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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 13 13:54:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:54:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
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David, used to say on the side of the box?

?10 or ?5? Five I thnik

E

On 13 November 2015 at 13:29, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all, what is the price of the UNO R3 we have at the space?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 13 13:57:49 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:57:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1447423069.22002.23.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Fri, 2015-11-13 at 13:29 +0000, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Hello all, what is the price of the UNO R3 we have at the space? 

?6




From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 13 14:26:52 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:26:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS16224B6C47C159A55023B2C6110@phx.gbl>

Thanks Emyr,  I couldn't remember if it had gone to ?6 or not, I might pop up and get one before I leave town if I have time.


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David, used to say on the side of the box?

?10 or ?5? Five I thnik

E

On 13 November 2015 at 13:29, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all, what is the price of the UNO R3 we have at the space?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 13 14:36:18 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:36:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS16224B6C47C159A55023B2C6110@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS16224B6C47C159A55023B2C6110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7PoZwsXTiVxWOqNp3VGBKujK2yrAiV6Vvfg3CO_fh0ycg@mail.gmail.com>

?6 David... see Justin's post... :-)

sorry about the duff gen!

E

On 13 November 2015 at 14:26, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Emyr,  I couldn't remember if it had gone to ?6 or not, I might pop
> up and get one before I leave town if I have time.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:13/11/2015 13:54 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
>
> David, used to say on the side of the box?
>
> ?10 or ?5? Five I thnik
>
> E
>
> On 13 November 2015 at 13:29, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello all, what is the price of the UNO R3 we have at the space?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 15:15:39 2015
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:15:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oMgxQU8pbTyRON=9r3FXVnU67Up+3rdz=4UD_s0ERo-Kg@mail.gmail.com>

Off AlliExpress they are ?1.87 direct or less take 3 weeks to arrive.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shippping-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-for-Arduino-UNO-R3-NO-USB-CABLE-High-quality/32393411683.html?spm=2114.01020208.6.10.VfhUqY&s=p

:  )))

Tim_1

On 13 November 2015 at 13:29, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all, what is the price of the UNO R3 we have at the space?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 13 15:23:51 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:23:51 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oMgxQU8pbTyRON=9r3FXVnU67Up+3rdz=4UD_s0ERo-Kg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
	<CAAEY5oMgxQU8pbTyRON=9r3FXVnU67Up+3rdz=4UD_s0ERo-Kg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1447428231.22002.29.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

On Fri, 2015-11-13 at 15:15 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> Off AlliExpress they are ?1.87 direct or less take 3 weeks to arrive.
> 
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shippping-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-for-Arduino-UNO-R3-NO-USB-CABLE-High-quality/32393411683.html?spm=2114.01020208.6.10.VfhUqY&s=p

The ones we stock are
* with the USB cable
* the removable chip version
* the reprogrammable usb version
* there right now, not in 3 weeks.
* still cheaper than ebay for a uk supplier of same

the tiny bit of profit on that price also goes to support the space.






From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 13 15:36:44 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:36:44 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] UNO R3 price
In-Reply-To: <1447428231.22002.29.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS22738A2591189B0EDFAA53C6110@phx.gbl>
	<CAAEY5oMgxQU8pbTyRON=9r3FXVnU67Up+3rdz=4UD_s0ERo-Kg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1447428231.22002.29.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7ORgaWAvxN4L0Z8YPzqtD2cYMdpqO=8XBNV6Cy+=N+bDQ@mail.gmail.com>

hear hear, 'here'... use it or lose it! :-)

E

On 13 November 2015 at 15:23, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2015-11-13 at 15:15 +0000, Tim Moore wrote:
> > Off AlliExpress they are ?1.87 direct or less take 3 weeks to arrive.
> >
> >
> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shippping-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-for-Arduino-UNO-R3-NO-USB-CABLE-High-quality/32393411683.html?spm=2114.01020208.6.10.VfhUqY&s=p
>
> The ones we stock are
> * with the USB cable
> * the removable chip version
> * the reprogrammable usb version
> * there right now, not in 3 weeks.
> * still cheaper than ebay for a uk supplier of same
>
> the tiny bit of profit on that price also goes to support the space.
>
>
>
>
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From rollercow at sucs.org  Tue Nov 17 10:03:34 2015
From: rollercow at sucs.org (Chris Jones)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 10:03:34 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Furniture_free_to_a_good_hom?=
 =?utf-8?q?e_=E2=80=93_Collect_weds_-_fri_this_week?=
In-Reply-To: <1447754245.564afa0514430@www.swan.ac.uk>
References: <1447754245.564afa0514430@www.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <564AFB76.2070705@sucs.org>

May be of interest...

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Furniture free to a good home ??? Collect weds - fri this week

A large amount of furniture will be cleared from the old Sports Science
Motion Lab (the large shed by the Vivian entrances) on Saturday 21st
November. This is due to be recycled.

There are large quantities of chairs, desks, bookshelves, and some more
random and interesting items, of variable quality, but much of it in
good condition.

If any staff would like to reuse any of this furniture or know of any
orgs that would like to do so, it is all  ???free to a good home???. It
can be viewed and taken weds ??? fri between 9.00 and 16.00.

Please contact Debbie Davies for further details.

d.davies at swansea.ac.uk

--
Chris



From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 20 15:01:54 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:01:54 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: laser cut xmas decorations
Message-ID: <1448031714.18228.15.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>

Quick reminder that the laser cut xmas decorations workshop is tomorrow.

there are still a few tickets available for any last minute purchases,
but numbers are now restricted as i have already bought the materials.

As usual you should preferably bring your own laptop with inkscape
installed, but there are a couple of loaner computers available if
required.

The ticket price includes a sheet of clear perspex, and some coloured
card. If you wish to use alternative/additional materials please bring
your own.






From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 20 15:04:50 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:04:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: laser cut xmas decorations
In-Reply-To: <1448031714.18228.15.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1448031714.18228.15.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NroqZc97+v8q4Asv98m8EbS+qtn_Ubkfwz8pvFrUR_Cw@mail.gmail.com>

looking forward to it... I'm going to try calling into the plywood place in
Llansamlet on my way in to see if I can get some nice wood

have you seen those lovely xmas decs for sale in one of the charity shops
on the Kingsway? They are in the window... very nice!

E

On 20 November 2015 at 15:01, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> Quick reminder that the laser cut xmas decorations workshop is tomorrow.
>
> there are still a few tickets available for any last minute purchases,
> but numbers are now restricted as i have already bought the materials.
>
> As usual you should preferably bring your own laptop with inkscape
> installed, but there are a couple of loaner computers available if
> required.
>
> The ticket price includes a sheet of clear perspex, and some coloured
> card. If you wish to use alternative/additional materials please bring
> your own.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Nov 20 15:11:29 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:11:29 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: laser cut xmas decorations
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NroqZc97+v8q4Asv98m8EbS+qtn_Ubkfwz8pvFrUR_Cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1448031714.18228.15.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NroqZc97+v8q4Asv98m8EbS+qtn_Ubkfwz8pvFrUR_Cw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 15:04 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> looking forward to it... I'm going to try calling into the plywood
> place in Llansamlet on my way in to see if I can get some nice wood

Now we have a bandsaw its going to be much easier to obtain materials,
as they can be quickly cut down to fit in the various machines,

huge thanks to Aled for the loan of that one, and to everyone that has
loaned or donated equipment, it improves the space for all of us.

> have you seen those lovely xmas decs for sale in one of the charity
> shops on the Kingsway? They are in the window... very nice!
take some photos, sources of inspiration are always helpful :)






From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 20 15:25:20 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:25:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: laser cut xmas decorations
In-Reply-To: <1448032289.18228.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
References: <1448031714.18228.15.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NroqZc97+v8q4Asv98m8EbS+qtn_Ubkfwz8pvFrUR_Cw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1448032289.18228.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NjfiyVOogcjrU26LTR8to11PCeSdwnv30cHedmabnBrw@mail.gmail.com>

yeh, I have been meaning to go back to do that.

maybe lunchtime tomorrow

On 20 November 2015 at 15:11, Justin Mitchell <
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 15:04 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> > looking forward to it... I'm going to try calling into the plywood
> > place in Llansamlet on my way in to see if I can get some nice wood
>
> Now we have a bandsaw its going to be much easier to obtain materials,
> as they can be quickly cut down to fit in the various machines,
>
> huge thanks to Aled for the loan of that one, and to everyone that has
> loaned or donated equipment, it improves the space for all of us.
>
> > have you seen those lovely xmas decs for sale in one of the charity
> > shops on the Kingsway? They are in the window... very nice!
> take some photos, sources of inspiration are always helpful :)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 20 15:27:00 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:27:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Reminder: laser cut xmas decorations
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NjfiyVOogcjrU26LTR8to11PCeSdwnv30cHedmabnBrw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAGAFX7NroqZc97+v8q4Asv98m8EbS+qtn_Ubkfwz8pvFrUR_Cw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1448032289.18228.19.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>
	<CAGAFX7NjfiyVOogcjrU26LTR8to11PCeSdwnv30cHedmabnBrw@mail.gmail.com>
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actually I had taken photos! Durrr

On 20 November 2015 at 15:25, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> yeh, I have been meaning to go back to do that.
>
> maybe lunchtime tomorrow
>
> On 20 November 2015 at 15:11, Justin Mitchell <
> justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 15:04 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
>> > looking forward to it... I'm going to try calling into the plywood
>> > place in Llansamlet on my way in to see if I can get some nice wood
>>
>> Now we have a bandsaw its going to be much easier to obtain materials,
>> as they can be quickly cut down to fit in the various machines,
>>
>> huge thanks to Aled for the loan of that one, and to everyone that has
>> loaned or donated equipment, it improves the space for all of us.
>>
>> > have you seen those lovely xmas decs for sale in one of the charity
>> > shops on the Kingsway? They are in the window... very nice!
>> take some photos, sources of inspiration are always helpful :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 21 10:39:20 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:39:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Lift to hackspace
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS245B1DF2B4EFFB481D9AAEEC6190@phx.gbl>

Taking Lily down for today's event, is anyone passing through Fforstfach (Marquis Arms) on the way to the hacks space?


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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov 21 20:35:46 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 20:35:46 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Xmas decs course
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7M=0XTJKH5BgQ=DnhnZeT5nLSmwvTkYkS2JNWLKv_AyOg@mail.gmail.com>

Justin

Thank you for an excellent course today. I really enjoyed it.

Kind regards

Emyr


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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 20:39:55 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 20:39:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Xmas decs course
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7M=0XTJKH5BgQ=DnhnZeT5nLSmwvTkYkS2JNWLKv_AyOg@mail.gmail.com>
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Any photos? ???
Gutted I missed  ?
On 21 Nov 2015 20:36, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> Justin
>
> Thank you for an excellent course today. I really enjoyed it.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Emyr
>
>
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>
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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov 21 21:28:39 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:28:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Xmas decs course
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Wanted to cut this from ply but ended up doing it in card :-(

On Saturday, November 21, 2015, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Any photos? ???
> Gutted I missed  ?
> On 21 Nov 2015 20:36, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Justin
>>
>> Thank you for an excellent course today. I really enjoyed it.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>>
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From em at preseli.com  Sun Nov 22 10:38:24 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 10:38:24 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Xmas decs course
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn_ywF9C9uAkqiYu9Jt7PNcV1M2caD7oGq0uo9=vtm-qaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7M=0XTJKH5BgQ=DnhnZeT5nLSmwvTkYkS2JNWLKv_AyOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_ywF9C9uAkqiYu9Jt7PNcV1M2caD7oGq0uo9=vtm-qaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7NmoOFnrEqJsq-ET-VOtvqk9vtO=Mc4=hrDwrpU3721Cw@mail.gmail.com>

Wanted to cut this from ply but ended up doing it in card :-(

On Saturday, November 21, 2015, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Any photos? ???
> Gutted I missed  ?
> On 21 Nov 2015 20:36, "Emyr Morris" <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Justin
>>
>> Thank you for an excellent course today. I really enjoyed it.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Emyr
>>
>>
>> --
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>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
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>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sun Nov 22 14:09:31 2015
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 14:09:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Xmas decs course
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7NmoOFnrEqJsq-ET-VOtvqk9vtO=Mc4=hrDwrpU3721Cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAFX7M=0XTJKH5BgQ=DnhnZeT5nLSmwvTkYkS2JNWLKv_AyOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn_ywF9C9uAkqiYu9Jt7PNcV1M2caD7oGq0uo9=vtm-qaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGAFX7NmoOFnrEqJsq-ET-VOtvqk9vtO=Mc4=hrDwrpU3721Cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1448201371.23767.1.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 10:38 +0000, Emyr Morris wrote:
> Wanted to cut this from ply but ended up doing it in card :-(

Maybe we can work together on it on monday ?

I need to cut some more snowflakes for myself, after my one failed
attempt on saturday i never got a chance to try again. but that should
only take a few minutes.





From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 23 10:46:47 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:46:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Second 3D Printer
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7O=4UHiFycY2UBLKWu=+hbt8VEJFNBdZ99RqjEj9L-94Q@mail.gmail.com>

Ladies and Gents

I put forward the proposal that the collective buys the 3d printer that
Ceri has for sale. This is his famous Core XY printer that he has designed
from scratch.

All he wants for this beast of a machine is ?285, which is basically the
cost of the electronics. The box, the plastic parts he has printed, the
various rods and belts are all basically free.

Most of you will have witnessed Ceri bringing bits of it into the space to
show us as he designed that aspect of the printer and watched while he
coded the thing to move in circles... and then eventually when he brought
in various prints he has made on it.

While the box isn't pretty, it is very sturdy, it prints in very fine
layers and in the mode it is currently configured it prints direct from a
SD card.

The printer could accommodate a second extruder. I've added a stretch goal
of an extra ?40 to make that happen. (We can do this for less if anybody
has a spare stepper motor they can contribute)

We have set up a pledge fund to buy this printer... I know crimbo is just
round the corner, but this is too good an opportunity to miss

http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Equipment/SecondPrinter

Chip in what you can... we don't need much cash to buy this! I've put my
money where my mouth is, it wouldn't take many pledges to give is a spare
3d printer so more than one person can make a print at any given time.

Thanks again for reading and for making this happen

Emyr

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From em at preseli.com  Mon Nov 23 19:57:44 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IET Xmas Lecture
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MMh0WyC-JvV9x545UbZirRebMbdk2o_o5-mBdaqM-U3Q@mail.gmail.com>

This may be of interest to some

Free Lecture

http://www.theiet.org/events/local/226721.cfm?nxtid=

73 de Emyr

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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Thu Nov 26 09:02:04 2015
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:02:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <1448528524.2816.5.camel@discordia.org.uk>

New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
without the accessories just ?4 each

http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero






From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 26 09:53:14 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:53:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <1448528524.2816.5.camel@discordia.org.uk>
References: <1448528524.2816.5.camel@discordia.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Mg2XUMhXhdYosv642WE98EYPwFHFdi7E7Ei4re5fKANg@mail.gmail.com>

cute!

On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
wrote:

> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 26 10:01:40 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:01:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7Mg2XUMhXhdYosv642WE98EYPwFHFdi7E7Ei4re5fKANg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1448528524.2816.5.camel@discordia.org.uk>
	<CAGAFX7Mg2XUMhXhdYosv642WE98EYPwFHFdi7E7Ei4re5fKANg@mail.gmail.com>
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and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o

On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>> without the accessories just ?4 each
>>
>> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> addressed.
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> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>



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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 26 10:42:17 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:42:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS143A85F113D9AD58B56E232C6040@phx.gbl>

This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where would I get it?

I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:26/11/2015  10:02  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>
and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o

On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:

> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>> without the accessories just ?4 each
>>
>> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>



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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Nov 26 10:46:43 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:46:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS143A85F113D9AD58B56E232C6040@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS143A85F113D9AD58B56E232C6040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5656E313.8020608@aurinia.co.uk>



On 26/11/15 10:42, David Davies-Day wrote:
> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and 
> where would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=magpi

>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com 
> <mailto:em at preseli.com>> wrote:
>
>     cute!
>
>     On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell
>     <justin at discordia.org.uk <mailto:justin at discordia.org.uk>> wrote:
>
>         New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>         without the accessories just ?4 each
>
>         http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
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>     intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
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>
>     Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>     gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd
>     hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 26 11:16:53 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:16:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS143A85F113D9AD58B56E232C6040@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS143A85F113D9AD58B56E232C6040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MuVAaU9cwzmeYAMuRCVSp-m0QOh4LFCTQGjLmDhdLA0w@mail.gmail.com>

they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
Smiths ?

On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
> would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
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> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Nov 26 11:24:47 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:24:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <CAGAFX7MuVAaU9cwzmeYAMuRCVSp-m0QOh4LFCTQGjLmDhdLA0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS143A85F113D9AD58B56E232C6040@phx.gbl>
	<CAGAFX7MuVAaU9cwzmeYAMuRCVSp-m0QOh4LFCTQGjLmDhdLA0w@mail.gmail.com>
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On 26/11/15 11:16, Emyr Morris wrote:
> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in 
> WH Smiths ?
Well according to the website previous issues have been.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-magpi-issue-36-is-here-and-were-in-print/

I don't recall seeing it.





>
> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine
>     and where would I get it?
>
>     I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
>     No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However,
>     several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com <mailto:em at preseli.com>>
>     Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
>     To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
>     Cc:
>     Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>     and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
>     On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
>     <mailto:em at preseli.com>> wrote:
>
>         cute!
>
>         On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell
>         <justin at discordia.org.uk <mailto:justin at discordia.org.uk>> wrote:
>
>             New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>             without the accessories just ?4 each
>
>             http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
>             _______________________________________________
>             Hackspace mailing list
>             Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>             <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>             http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
>         -- 
>         This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential
>         and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>         whom they are addressed.
>
>         Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>         gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y
>         cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
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>     intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
>     they are addressed.
>
>     Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
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>     hwy atynt yn unig.
>
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>
>
>
>
> -- 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they 
> are addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn 
> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy 
> atynt yn unig.
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 26 13:44:00 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:44:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>

I read on the website,
https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations, I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.


"You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high street stores:

WHSmith
Tesco
Sainsbury?s
Asda
Barnes & Noble
Micro Center"

"Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can buy a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you subscribe to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"

>From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40 onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.

I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a few of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:26/11/2015  11:17  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>
they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
Smiths ?

On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
> would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 26 13:53:08 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:53:08 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Py79nZUvsQSS_2QpDW-nCj+1t0qodBzUy6wmOrkBrzdQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've looked at a few stockists and if you want the GPIO headers as well
then the first link provided by Justin is the one. Their shipping was very
reasonable too!

I was about to buy another Pi, wifi will be essential, it is a shame they
didn't put wifi on this board, it would have been a killer with some form
of connectivity! I wonder how long it will be before they start to ship
mini-usb wifi dongles

E

On 26 November 2015 at 13:44, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I read on the website,
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations,
> I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of
> them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>
>
> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high
> street stores:
>
> WHSmith
> Tesco
> Sainsbury?s
> Asda
> Barnes & Noble
> Micro Center"
>
> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can buy
> a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you subscribe
> to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>
> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40
> onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>
> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a few
> of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
> Smiths ?
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
> would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Nov 26 14:53:27 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:53:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <56571CE7.8080604@aurinia.co.uk>



On 26/11/15 13:44, David Davies-Day wrote:
> I read on the website,
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition 
> locations, I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH 
> Smith, none of them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>
>
> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high 
> street stores:
>
> WHSmith
> Tesco
> Sainsbury?s
> Asda
> Barnes & Noble
> Micro Center"
>
Well the only one of those that is in reasonable distance to walk here 
in Neath is WHSmith I went there and looked, their computer magazines 
are tucked into a corner. There was no sign of it so i asked. They don't 
stock it.

I'd be grateful if someone does find a place that does stock it

Neil



> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can 
> buy a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you 
> subscribe to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>
> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from 
> #40 onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>
> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a 
> few of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several 
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in 
> WH Smiths ?
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine
>     and where would I get it?
>
>     I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
>     No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However,
>     several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com <mailto:em at preseli.com>>
>     Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
>     To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
>     Cc:
>     Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>     and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
>     On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
>     <mailto:em at preseli.com>> wrote:
>
>         cute!
>
>         On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell
>         <justin at discordia.org.uk <mailto:justin at discordia.org.uk>> wrote:
>
>             New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>             without the accessories just ?4 each
>
>             http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
>             _______________________________________________
>             Hackspace mailing list
>             Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>             <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>             http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
>         -- 
>         This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential
>         and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>         whom they are addressed.
>
>         Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>         gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y
>         cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>     intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
>     they are addressed.
>
>     Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>     gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd
>     hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Hackspace mailing list
>     Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they 
> are addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn 
> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy 
> atynt yn unig.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nhackett1 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 15:01:03 2015
From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 15:01:03 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <56571CE7.8080604@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>
	<56571CE7.8080604@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CACs+WPGStoG2jdvh-4Az+ZdYvrvOyF4B2CP9K8u2ycUX8twheA@mail.gmail.com>

Friends at work in Asda have been given instructions to buy all the copies
if it turns up. Unlikely though. :)

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 26/11/15 13:44, David Davies-Day wrote:
>
> I read on the website,
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations,
> I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of
> them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>
>
> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high
> street stores:
>
> WHSmith
> Tesco
> Sainsbury?s
> Asda
> Barnes & Noble
> Micro Center"
>
> Well the only one of those that is in reasonable distance to walk here in
> Neath is WHSmith I went there and looked, their computer magazines are
> tucked into a corner. There was no sign of it so i asked. They don't stock
> it.
>
> I'd be grateful if someone does find a place that does stock it
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can buy
> a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you subscribe
> to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>
> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40
> onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>
> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a few
> of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
> Smiths ?
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
> would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace < <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell < <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Thu Nov 26 15:21:39 2015
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (Tom Lake)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 15:21:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Workshop: Linux Command Line Basics
Message-ID: <E1a1yMt-0001dZ-3c@silver.sucs.swan.ac.uk>

A quick reminder to everyone about the following workshop:

When: 7pm Wednesday 2nd December 2015
What: Linux Basics - Using the command line
Price: Free
Who: Open to all

Possibly useful for those of you looking at buying one of the new Raspberry Pi models, or anyone interested in some of the fundamentals of Linux and other unix based systems.

If there are particular topics people would like to see covered, please let me know.

- Tom

From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 26 15:28:40 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 15:28:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Workshop: Linux Command Line Basics
In-Reply-To: <E1a1yMt-0001dZ-3c@silver.sucs.swan.ac.uk>
References: <E1a1yMt-0001dZ-3c@silver.sucs.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7MAn8QCSV_2w_ddeK1Fe==x0zG=uHDzOnotQs6ZATxATw@mail.gmail.com>

I have a film club night that night. Really sorry to miss this one as it
was one of the courses I really wanted to do!

I guess it will be really busy from now until January with all the xmas
parties and everything that go on in December

Good luck

Emyr

On 26 November 2015 at 15:21, Tom Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org> wrote:

> A quick reminder to everyone about the following workshop:
>
> When: 7pm Wednesday 2nd December 2015
> What: Linux Basics - Using the command line
> Price: Free
> Who: Open to all
>
> Possibly useful for those of you looking at buying one of the new
> Raspberry Pi models, or anyone interested in some of the fundamentals of
> Linux and other unix based systems.
>
> If there are particular topics people would like to see covered, please
> let me know.
>
> - Tom
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



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From em at preseli.com  Thu Nov 26 15:32:57 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 15:32:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <CACs+WPGStoG2jdvh-4Az+ZdYvrvOyF4B2CP9K8u2ycUX8twheA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB406-EAS29620D797C16ED37685623C6040@phx.gbl>
	<56571CE7.8080604@aurinia.co.uk>
	<CACs+WPGStoG2jdvh-4Az+ZdYvrvOyF4B2CP9K8u2ycUX8twheA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7N-cEgkxa4D0U9w1NoTvUih5HLWv=PWQJjmnxo_ActJHg@mail.gmail.com>

most newsagents are supplied by newspaper distributors Menzies

you can ask any newsagent (no matter how small) to get you any magazine
(almost) and they should get it within 48 hours if it is in stock, or they
(your newsagent( can get the next issue to be published.

Newspaper franchises/distribution are brilliant... Menzies vans scuttle
round the country during the night to get the newspapers to sellers by the
time they open in the morning. All of it sale or return too

All of this depends on the intelligence of the person in the newsagent that
phones up menzies :-/

On 26 November 2015 at 15:01, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Friends at work in Asda have been given instructions to buy all the copies
> if it turns up. Unlikely though. :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 26/11/15 13:44, David Davies-Day wrote:
>>
>> I read on the website,
>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
>> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations,
>> I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of
>> them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>>
>>
>> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high
>> street stores:
>>
>> WHSmith
>> Tesco
>> Sainsbury?s
>> Asda
>> Barnes & Noble
>> Micro Center"
>>
>> Well the only one of those that is in reasonable distance to walk here in
>> Neath is WHSmith I went there and looked, their computer magazines are
>> tucked into a corner. There was no sign of it so i asked. They don't stock
>> it.
>>
>> I'd be grateful if someone does find a place that does stock it
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
>> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can
>> buy a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you
>> subscribe to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>>
>> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40
>> onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>>
>> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a
>> few of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>>
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> <em at preseli.com>
>> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>
>> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
>> Smiths ?
>>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
>> would I get it?
>>
>> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>>
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
>> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: Swansea Hackspace < <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>
>> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>> cute!
>>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell < <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>> without the accessories just ?4 each
>>
>> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 26 17:13:11 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:13:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS407E850DC20374778BDE814C6040@phx.gbl>

WHSmith the Quadrant every single copy that sold out about 5 minutes it doesn't like they're getting any more in the option of my local news agent or online may be the only options.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:26/11/2015  15:33  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>
most newsagents are supplied by newspaper distributors Menzies

you can ask any newsagent (no matter how small) to get you any magazine
(almost) and they should get it within 48 hours if it is in stock, or they
(your newsagent( can get the next issue to be published.

Newspaper franchises/distribution are brilliant... Menzies vans scuttle
round the country during the night to get the newspapers to sellers by the
time they open in the morning. All of it sale or return too

All of this depends on the intelligence of the person in the newsagent that
phones up menzies :-/

On 26 November 2015 at 15:01, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Friends at work in Asda have been given instructions to buy all the copies
> if it turns up. Unlikely though. :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 26/11/15 13:44, David Davies-Day wrote:
>>
>> I read on the website,
>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
>> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations,
>> I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of
>> them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>>
>>
>> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high
>> street stores:
>>
>> WHSmith
>> Tesco
>> Sainsbury?s
>> Asda
>> Barnes & Noble
>> Micro Center"
>>
>> Well the only one of those that is in reasonable distance to walk here in
>> Neath is WHSmith I went there and looked, their computer magazines are
>> tucked into a corner. There was no sign of it so i asked. They don't stock
>> it.
>>
>> I'd be grateful if someone does find a place that does stock it
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
>> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can
>> buy a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you
>> subscribe to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>>
>> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40
>> onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>>
>> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a
>> few of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>>
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> <em at preseli.com>
>> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>
>> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
>> Smiths ?
>>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
>> would I get it?
>>
>> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>>
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
>> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: Swansea Hackspace < <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>
>> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>>
>> cute!
>>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell < <justin at discordia.org.uk>
>> justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
>> without the accessories just ?4 each
>>
>> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>>
>> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn
>> gyfrinachol ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt
>> yn unig.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 19:01:18 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:01:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS407E850DC20374778BDE814C6040@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS407E850DC20374778BDE814C6040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-LXhfuj-nzipVMSVLTzQW_NwCM6xEgOTQe-RBcKkquBg@mail.gmail.com>

If any one finds one... (one more after you buy it  )
Please get it for me. ..
On 26 Nov 2015 17:13, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> WHSmith the Quadrant every single copy that sold out about 5 minutes it
> doesn't like they're getting any more in the option of my local news agent
> or online may be the only options.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 15:33 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> most newsagents are supplied by newspaper distributors Menzies
>
> you can ask any newsagent (no matter how small) to get you any magazine
> (almost) and they should get it within 48 hours if it is in stock, or they
> (your newsagent( can get the next issue to be published.
>
> Newspaper franchises/distribution are brilliant... Menzies vans scuttle
> round the country during the night to get the newspapers to sellers by the
> time they open in the morning. All of it sale or return too
>
> All of this depends on the intelligence of the person in the newsagent
> that phones up menzies :-/
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 15:01, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Friends at work in Asda have been given instructions to buy all the copies
> if it turns up. Unlikely though. :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 13:44, David Davies-Day wrote:
>
> I read on the website,
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations,
> I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of
> them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>
>
> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high
> street stores:
>
> WHSmith
> Tesco
> Sainsbury?s
> Asda
> Barnes & Noble
> Micro Center"
>
> Well the only one of those that is in reasonable distance to walk here in
> Neath is WHSmith I went there and looked, their computer magazines are
> tucked into a corner. There was no sign of it so i asked. They don't stock
> it.
>
> I'd be grateful if someone does find a place that does stock it
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can buy
> a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you subscribe
> to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>
> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40
> onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>
> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a few
> of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
> Smiths ?
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
> would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace < <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell < <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
> --
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
>
> Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol
> ac at ddefnydd yr unigolyn neu'r corff y cyfeiriwyd hwy atynt yn unig.
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 26 19:41:05 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS19768D4F4610E5515B94CCCC6040@phx.gbl>

It's a wash out!

WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.

Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.

Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their issue 40 is on ebay.

This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.

Ceri, I'll ask for a second copy the next time I'm up there.


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:26/11/2015  19:01  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Hackers <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
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If any one finds one... (one more after you buy it  )
Please get it for me. ..
On 26 Nov 2015 17:13, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> WHSmith the Quadrant every single copy that sold out about 5 minutes it
> doesn't like they're getting any more in the option of my local news agent
> or online may be the only options.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 15:33 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> most newsagents are supplied by newspaper distributors Menzies
>
> you can ask any newsagent (no matter how small) to get you any magazine
> (almost) and they should get it within 48 hours if it is in stock, or they
> (your newsagent( can get the next issue to be published.
>
> Newspaper franchises/distribution are brilliant... Menzies vans scuttle
> round the country during the night to get the newspapers to sellers by the
> time they open in the morning. All of it sale or return too
>
> All of this depends on the intelligence of the person in the newsagent
> that phones up menzies :-/
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 15:01, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Friends at work in Asda have been given instructions to buy all the copies
> if it turns up. Unlikely though. :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 13:44, David Davies-Day wrote:
>
> I read on the website,
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/40/
> that it's free with print editions, here is the print edition locations,
> I've tried an I telnet search of the supermarkets and WH Smith, none of
> them gave a me a result, guess ill have to go look.
>
>
> "You can buy The MagPi in all good newsagents, as well as these high
> street stores:
>
> WHSmith
> Tesco
> Sainsbury?s
> Asda
> Barnes & Noble
> Micro Center"
>
> Well the only one of those that is in reasonable distance to walk here in
> Neath is WHSmith I went there and looked, their computer magazines are
> tucked into a corner. There was no sign of it so i asked. They don't stock
> it.
>
> I'd be grateful if someone does find a place that does stock it
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> "Set up your FREE Raspberry Pi Zero
> Find out what you need and how to set up your new $5 computer! You can buy
> a cable bundle for ?4 from the Swag Store or get them free if you subscribe
> to The MagPi while #40 is on sale!"
>
> From the sounds of it, the cable bundle is free if you subscribe from #40
> onwards, or its ?4, but the Pi Zero is for all print editions.
>
> I imagine the cost of shipping is almost the same as the Zero, maybe a few
> of us should bulk order and split the shipping down to pennies.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 11:17 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> they say the offer is for subscribers... Is the magazine available in WH
> Smiths ?
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 10:42, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is cheap enough for me to afford, how much is the magazine and where
> would I get it?
>
> I gather there would be an article or two on the PiZero.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:26/11/2015 10:02 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace < <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> and get one free with the December issue of The MagPi :-o
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:53, Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> wrote:
>
> cute!
>
> On 26 November 2015 at 09:02, Justin Mitchell < <justin at discordia.org.uk>
> justin at discordia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> New tiny version of the Raspberry Pi,
> without the accessories just ?4 each
>
> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
>
>
>
>
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From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk  Thu Nov 26 20:21:28 2015
From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:21:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS19768D4F4610E5515B94CCCC6040@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS19768D4F4610E5515B94CCCC6040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20151126202128.649f0d97@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's a wash out!
> 
> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.
> 
> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> 
> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
> 
> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.

You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
- so it's not a crates from China job.

Alan



From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Thu Nov 26 20:53:20 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:53:20 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <20151126202128.649f0d97@www.etchedpixels.co.uk>
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On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a wash out!
>>
>> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.
>>
>> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
>>
>> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
>>
>> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> - so it's not a crates from China job.
>
> Alan
Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have 
liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained. 
There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think 
the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a 
good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have 
them lying around, which I don't
The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there 
will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.

People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well 
I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers 
and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of 
everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith 
that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I 
were to ask. What do others think?

Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the 
PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!

Neil






From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 20:53:58 2015
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:53:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Box 3D Printer
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8rhudFvWwmhWjQVtBtAhTXGgq7yUJUoXGnNdAV_wb9Sg@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the Slic3r settings for my box 3D printer.
Version 1.1.7,
But I think I have fixed the issue with the new  Slic3r.

Pleas make a copy of your Slic3r settings BEFORE importing my settings.

If you do decide to give it a go then please put the normal payment into
the usual box.

please take photos and tell me how it went.


I know it still looks a bit messy, but over next few weeks
I will be tidying it up, - hopefully.

as for the print bed, as its warming up - (20 - 30 deg C), give it 2
squirts of ISO and quickly rub with finger tips....... pleas do not burn
yourself !!!
to re-activate the thin coating of adhesive on the glass,
which does work very well, but you will NOT have a shiny bottom !


Enjoy

Ceri
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 27 00:13:34 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 00:13:34 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>

Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.

When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.

Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/

WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.


Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete, into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges, dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!

Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4 mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.

After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution, manual inspection, then it's packaging.

If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national minimum wage person.

(HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)

In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40 way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.

Ramble over. :-)

The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a connector.

The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to know I have new set that will be reliable.

Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the kickstarter campaign was running?

The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.

http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> </div><div>Date:26/11/2015  20:53  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>


On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a wash out!
>>
>> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.
>>
>> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
>>
>> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
>>
>> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> - so it's not a crates from China job.
>
> Alan
Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
them lying around, which I don't
The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.

People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
were to ask. What do others think?

Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!

Neil




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From sarah.wathan at gmail.com  Fri Nov 27 01:14:16 2015
From: sarah.wathan at gmail.com (S Wathan)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:14:16 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABVk7RVLriNqfGx0t58rJnmwb-We-yYiwfCCqdH=TwTbmhLaYg@mail.gmail.com>

The magazine itself can be download for free from the website, I downloaded
it today. So its just a case for stockist to get the board back in and not
paying the ?30 plus people are paying on ebay
On 27 Nov 2015 00:14, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
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From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Fri Nov 27 09:10:34 2015
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:10:34 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BACF4F6F-4D0B-4CF0-9887-7798538AE7E1@gmail.com>

I started getting buyer?s remorse for supporting the C.H.I.P. Kickstarter until I realised that for only ?2 more I?m getting Bluetooth, WiFi, 4GB flash and a fully open-source computer, where they are working on reducing the number of binary blobs to zero: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/posts/1247188 <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/posts/1247188>

> On 27 Nov 2015, at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
> 
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
> 
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales. 
> 
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
> 
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
> 
> 
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete, into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges, dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
> 
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4 mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
> 
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution, manual inspection, then it's packaging.
> 
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national minimum wage person.
> 
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
> 
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40 way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
> 
> Ramble over. :-)
> 
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a connector.
> 
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to know I have new set that will be reliable.
> 
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the kickstarter campaign was running? 
> 
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
> 
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
> 
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero. 
> 
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
> 
> 
> 
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have 
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained. 
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think 
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a 
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have 
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there 
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
> 
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well 
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers 
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of 
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith 
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I 
> were to ask. What do others think?
> 
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the 
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 27 10:26:43 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:26:43 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS285E56168DA7AF4BB06F9AC6030@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7N2SvdS5dOhTbQU5U63nTyS=i6dwVkUPnxv_eor3W59nQ@mail.gmail.com>

Emyr not Emry :-(

Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
if I remember correctly



On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 27 10:39:53 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:39:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS985795A1F99B25F07499C1C6030@phx.gbl>

Sorry Emyr,  I think that was autocorrection.

As you said about Menzies, there was one of their vans pulling off from outside my local Premiere shop this morning, I'll have to call in again today to ask if it's been ordered for me.

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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:27/11/2015  10:27  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>
Emyr not Emry :-(

Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
if I remember correctly



On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 27 13:54:18 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:54:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS2891227CBE722CAB971ED37C6030@phx.gbl>

Stood outside Smith's swamsea, called in there but was told they would only be getting the January edition. I rang Cardiff Queen Street, they said they had 12 on their system, but when he wen to check a colleague said people were lined up waiting for them to open and they were all gone within 10 mins, they had a delivery try ester day and today, they may have some more I  tomorrow, their next delivery days are Tuesday and Wednesday. They can't hold any and it's first come first served unfortunately.

Before Queen Street I rang central square, they said the wholesaler is out of stock, if Queen Street will get any more at all is anyone's guess.

Gonna give Newport a try out of curiosity.


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</div>
Sorry Emyr,  I think that was autocorrection.

As you said about Menzies, there was one of their vans pulling off from outside my local Premiere shop this morning, I'll have to call in again today to ask if it's been ordered for me.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:27/11/2015  10:27  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>
Emyr not Emry :-(

Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
if I remember correctly



On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
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>
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From em at preseli.com  Fri Nov 27 14:00:38 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 14:00:38 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS2891227CBE722CAB971ED37C6030@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS2891227CBE722CAB971ED37C6030@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAGAFX7Nm1jNbTzZvjGs2e8MFo7ZszLKwBxK4gKd6j8-uHKP1Zw@mail.gmail.com>

ROTFL

The money and time you have spent on phone calls (plus the time of the
people you have spoken to) would have provided you with about 30 of these
?4 computers by now!

I've been reassured that my copy of MagPi will be in my local newsagents
tomorrow - see it when I believe it LOL ;-)



On 27 November 2015 at 13:54, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Stood outside Smith's swamsea, called in there but was told they would
> only be getting the January edition. I rang Cardiff Queen Street, they said
> they had 12 on their system, but when he wen to check a colleague said
> people were lined up waiting for them to open and they were all gone within
> 10 mins, they had a delivery try ester day and today, they may have some
> more I  tomorrow, their next delivery days are Tuesday and Wednesday. They
> can't hold any and it's first come first served unfortunately.
>
> Before Queen Street I rang central square, they said the wholesaler is out
> of stock, if Queen Street will get any more at all is anyone's guess.
>
> Gonna give Newport a try out of curiosity.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:40 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Sorry Emyr,  I think that was autocorrection.
>
> As you said about Menzies, there was one of their vans pulling off from
> outside my local Premiere shop this morning, I'll have to call in again
> today to ask if it's been ordered for me.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:27 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Emyr not Emry :-(
>
> Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
> if I remember correctly
>
>
>
> On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 27 15:11:58 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 15:11:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS103C3B26BAB972285D977A5C6030@phx.gbl>

Lucky you :-p

I just called into my local shop and the lady tried to order me two copies (one for Ceri), her wholesaler said he would put a request in but cannot guarantee he will be able to get them because of the amount of orders they have had.

Time will tell, so glad I have inclusive phone minutes, data and Wifi.

P.s. Newport WHSmith are sold out too.

No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com> </div><div>Date:27/11/2015  14:01  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero </div><div>
</div>
ROTFL

The money and time you have spent on phone calls (plus the time of the
people you have spoken to) would have provided you with about 30 of these
?4 computers by now!

I've been reassured that my copy of MagPi will be in my local newsagents
tomorrow - see it when I believe it LOL ;-)



On 27 November 2015 at 13:54, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Stood outside Smith's swamsea, called in there but was told they would
> only be getting the January edition. I rang Cardiff Queen Street, they said
> they had 12 on their system, but when he wen to check a colleague said
> people were lined up waiting for them to open and they were all gone within
> 10 mins, they had a delivery try ester day and today, they may have some
> more I  tomorrow, their next delivery days are Tuesday and Wednesday. They
> can't hold any and it's first come first served unfortunately.
>
> Before Queen Street I rang central square, they said the wholesaler is out
> of stock, if Queen Street will get any more at all is anyone's guess.
>
> Gonna give Newport a try out of curiosity.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:40 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Sorry Emyr,  I think that was autocorrection.
>
> As you said about Menzies, there was one of their vans pulling off from
> outside my local Premiere shop this morning, I'll have to call in again
> today to ask if it's been ordered for me.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:27 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Emyr not Emry :-(
>
> Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
> if I remember correctly
>
>
>
> On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Fri Nov 27 16:47:50 2015
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:47:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
In-Reply-To: <DUB406-EAS103C3B26BAB972285D977A5C6030@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB406-EAS103C3B26BAB972285D977A5C6030@phx.gbl>
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Got one today - it's tiny!

On Friday, 27 November 2015, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Lucky you :-p
>
> I just called into my local shop and the lady tried to order me two copies
> (one for Ceri), her wholesaler said he would put a request in but cannot
> guarantee he will be able to get them because of the amount of orders they
> have had.
>
> Time will tell, so glad I have inclusive phone minutes, data and Wifi.
>
> P.s. Newport WHSmith are sold out too.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>>
> Date:27/11/2015 14:01 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> ROTFL
>
> The money and time you have spent on phone calls (plus the time of the
> people you have spoken to) would have provided you with about 30 of these
> ?4 computers by now!
>
> I've been reassured that my copy of MagPi will be in my local newsagents
> tomorrow - see it when I believe it LOL ;-)
>
>
>
> On 27 November 2015 at 13:54, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Stood outside Smith's swamsea, called in there but was told they would
> only be getting the January edition. I rang Cardiff Queen Street, they said
> they had 12 on their system, but when he wen to check a colleague said
> people were lined up waiting for them to open and they were all gone within
> 10 mins, they had a delivery try ester day and today, they may have some
> more I  tomorrow, their next delivery days are Tuesday and Wednesday. They
> can't hold any and it's first come first served unfortunately.
>
> Before Queen Street I rang central square, they said the wholesaler is out
> of stock, if Queen Street will get any more at all is anyone's guess.
>
> Gonna give Newport a try out of curiosity.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:40 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Sorry Emyr,  I think that was autocorrection.
>
> As you said about Menzies, there was one of their vans pulling off from
> outside my local Premiere shop this morning, I'll have to call in again
> today to ask if it's been ordered for me.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:27 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Emyr not Emry :-(
>
> Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
> if I remember correctly
>
>
>
> On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil at aurinia.co.uk');>>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Sat Nov 28 16:10:09 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:10:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
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On 27/11/15 01:14, S Wathan wrote:
>
> The magazine itself can be download for free from the website, I 
> downloaded it today. So its just a case for stockist to get the board 
> back in and not paying the ?30 plus people are paying on ebay
>
That is a very sensible way of looking at it Sarah.

There is always someone with money to waste who will pay these silly 
prices. As you say the magazine is available free and has some really 
good articles in there.
I like the idea of an electronic conference badge that they suggest. I 
could think of a very good use for one of those for a conference I attend.
It would make a point to the charity organising it about the use of the 
internet that I have been suggesting for years and I could write it on 
the badge.
My suggestions would work on a Pi Zero too.
All I need now is a small pocket keyboard solution to program it / 
change its settings on the go. It would be nice to be able to put video 
on it too if that is possible.

The PI Zero ways just NINE GRAMS. That is half a gram lighter than a 
pound coin!

Incidentally there are examples of the magazine on ebay for ?45 ?49 and 
?89. There was one at ?99 the other day.
There is something cool though about giving away a computer on the front 
of a magazine.

Neil

> On 27 Nov 2015 00:14, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
>     When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about
>     the 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
>     Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
>     https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
>     WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
>     Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully
>     appreciate exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one.
>     I would imagine they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they
>     would go through a screen printer to add the solder paste, pass
>     through the pick and place machine (Mydata19 for example), then
>     the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete, into the Automatic
>     Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges, dry
>     joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there
>     are no though hole components there would not be a manual
>     inspection, maybe a quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it
>     off to packing!
>
>     Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd
>     have been hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before
>     that though, the 4 mounting holes and any other hales or pads that
>     should not tmbe soldered would need to be manually masked using
>     Kapton tape.
>
>     After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards,
>     puts then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person
>     would remove the tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges,
>     re-seat any raised components,  fit any missing ones or ones that
>     cannot go through a wave machine, the solder side would be washed
>     with a safe liquid solution, manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
>     If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they
>     would have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a
>     UK national minimum wage person.
>
>     (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
>     In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the
>     micro USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest
>     to allow a greater number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed
>     in on pass, leaving the 40 way through holes pads unpopulated for
>     the end customer to do what they want with cuts a out a huge chuck
>     of extra assembly time.
>
>     Ramble over. :-)
>
>     The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the
>     Pi Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will have to
>     populate it with a connector.
>
>     The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini
>     HDMI cable for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my
>     phone, I imagine they will work with the Zero, I don't really need
>     a bundle, but I may get one to know I have new set that will be
>     reliable.
>
>     Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back
>     when the kickstarter campaign was running?
>
>     The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but
>     has built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI
>     shield is an extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>     http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
>     Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
>     No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However,
>     several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk <mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>>
>     Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
>     To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     Cc:
>     Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
>     On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
>     > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
>     > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
>     <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> It's a wash out!
>     >>
>     >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite
>     what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them
>     have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.
>     >>
>     >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently
>     over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own
>     currently at ?7.50.
>     >>
>     >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't
>     believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
>     >>
>     >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local
>     newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
>     > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure
>     they'll be
>     > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend
>     aren't they
>     > - so it's not a crates from China job.
>     >
>     > Alan
>     Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
>     I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would
>     have
>     liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
>     There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do
>     think
>     the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
>     good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you
>     have
>     them lying around, which I don't
>     The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says
>     there
>     will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
>     People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
>     I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few
>     papers
>     and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
>     everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
>     that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it
>     if I
>     were to ask. What do others think?
>
>     Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines
>     and the
>     PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
>     Neil
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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From em at preseli.com  Sat Nov 28 18:27:32 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:27:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
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any good?

http://uk.farnell.com/piface/piface-control-display/i-o-board-with-lcd-display-for/dp/2344458



On 28 November 2015 at 16:10, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 27/11/15 01:14, S Wathan wrote:
>
> The magazine itself can be download for free from the website, I
> downloaded it today. So its just a case for stockist to get the board back
> in and not paying the ?30 plus people are paying on ebay
>
> That is a very sensible way of looking at it Sarah.
>
> There is always someone with money to waste who will pay these silly
> prices. As you say the magazine is available free and has some really good
> articles in there.
> I like the idea of an electronic conference badge that they suggest. I
> could think of a very good use for one of those for a conference I attend.
> It would make a point to the charity organising it about the use of the
> internet that I have been suggesting for years and I could write it on the
> badge.
> My suggestions would work on a Pi Zero too.
> All I need now is a small pocket keyboard solution to program it / change
> its settings on the go. It would be nice to be able to put video on it too
> if that is possible.
>
> The PI Zero ways just NINE GRAMS. That is half a gram lighter than a pound
> coin!
>
> Incidentally there are examples of the magazine on ebay for ?45 ?49 and
> ?89. There was one at ?99 the other day.
> There is something cool though about giving away a computer on the front
> of a magazine.
>
> Neil
>
>
> On 27 Nov 2015 00:14, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>>
>> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
>> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>>
>> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>>
>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>>
>> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>>
>>
>> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
>> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
>> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
>> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
>> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
>> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
>> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
>> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
>> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>>
>> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have
>> been hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though,
>> the 4 mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe
>> soldered would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>>
>> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
>> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
>> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
>> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
>> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
>> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>>
>> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
>> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
>> minimum wage person.
>>
>> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>>
>> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro
>> USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a
>> greater number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving
>> the 40 way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what
>> they want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>>
>> Ramble over. :-)
>>
>> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi
>> Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with
>> a connector.
>>
>> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
>> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
>> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
>> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>>
>> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
>> kickstarter campaign was running?
>>
>> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
>> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
>> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>>
>>
>> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>>
>> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>>
>> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
>> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
>> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
>> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
>> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's a wash out!
>> >>
>> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what
>> the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on
>> their systems, let alone their shelves.
>> >>
>> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21
>> ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
>> >>
>> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
>> issue 40 is on ebay.
>> >>
>> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
>> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
>> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll
>> be
>> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
>> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
>> >
>> > Alan
>> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
>> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
>> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
>> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
>> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
>> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
>> them lying around, which I don't
>> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
>> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>>
>> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
>> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
>> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
>> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
>> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
>> were to ask. What do others think?
>>
>> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
>> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Sun Nov 29 21:13:09 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:13:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
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On 28/11/15 18:27, Emyr Morris wrote:
> any good?
>
> http://uk.farnell.com/piface/piface-control-display/i-o-board-with-lcd-display-for/dp/2344458
Sounds interesting and perhaps it would work
I was thinking possibly of something like this

http://www.neosecsolutions.com//products.php?28&cPath=17

It is actually a slightly smaller area than a credit card.

But I would need to work out how much battery capacity the screen would use.
There are some pretty powerful battery packs available on-line for 
charging phones that might do the job.
They seem to  have a higher capacity than some laptops!

Neil

>
>
>
> On 28 November 2015 at 16:10, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk 
> <mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 27/11/15 01:14, S Wathan wrote:
>>
>>     The magazine itself can be download for free from the website, I
>>     downloaded it today. So its just a case for stockist to get the
>>     board back in and not paying the ?30 plus people are paying on ebay
>>
>     That is a very sensible way of looking at it Sarah.
>
>     There is always someone with money to waste who will pay these
>     silly prices. As you say the magazine is available free and has
>     some really good articles in there.
>     I like the idea of an electronic conference badge that they
>     suggest. I could think of a very good use for one of those for a
>     conference I attend.
>     It would make a point to the charity organising it about the use
>     of the internet that I have been suggesting for years and I could
>     write it on the badge.
>     My suggestions would work on a Pi Zero too.
>     All I need now is a small pocket keyboard solution to program it /
>     change its settings on the go. It would be nice to be able to put
>     video on it too if that is possible.
>
>     The PI Zero ways just NINE GRAMS. That is half a gram lighter than
>     a pound coin!
>
>     Incidentally there are examples of the magazine on ebay for ?45
>     ?49 and ?89. There was one at ?99 the other day.
>     There is something cool though about giving away a computer on the
>     front of a magazine.
>
>     Neil
>
>
>>     On 27 Nov 2015 00:14, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
>>     <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>>
>>         When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was
>>         about the 20th person to phone in and that they won't be
>>         getting anymore.
>>
>>         Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>>
>>         https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>>
>>         WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>>
>>
>>         Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully
>>         appreciate exactly how they am have got the cost down on this
>>         one. I would imagine they would be manufactured in panels of
>>         8, they would go through a screen printer to add the solder
>>         paste, pass through the pick and place machine (Mydata19 for
>>         example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
>>         into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for
>>         solder bridges, dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if
>>         it passes AOI and there are no though hole components there
>>         would not be a manual inspection, maybe a quick system check
>>         (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>>
>>         Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it
>>         woukd have been hand placed and sent over a wave solder
>>         machine, before that though, the 4 mounting holes and any
>>         other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered would need
>>         to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>>
>>         After another person takes a full rack of header populated
>>         boards, puts then through the wave machine/solder bath,
>>         another person would remove the tape and debug any dry joints
>>         or solder bridges, re-seat any raised components,  fit any
>>         missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave machine,
>>         the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
>>         manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>>
>>         If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit,
>>         they would have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the
>>         amount of a UK national minimum wage person.
>>
>>         (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>>
>>         In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g.
>>         the micro USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its
>>         smallest to allow a greater number of boards to be SMD
>>         populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40 way through
>>         holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
>>         want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>>
>>         Ramble over. :-)
>>
>>         The attached image shows the connections, really please to
>>         see the Pi Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will
>>         have to populate it with a connector.
>>
>>         The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have
>>         mini HDMI cable for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables
>>         for my phone, I imagine they will work with the Zero, I don't
>>         really need a bundle, but I may get one to know I have new
>>         set that will be reliable.
>>
>>         Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about
>>         back when the kickstarter campaign was running?
>>
>>         The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the
>>         Zero, but has built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board
>>         storage, HDMI shield is an extra, it does come with the
>>         Composite cable as standard.
>>
>>         http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>>
>>         Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>>
>>         No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However,
>>         several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>>
>>         -------- Original message --------
>>         From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk
>>         <mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>>
>>         Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
>>         To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>         <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>>         Cc:
>>         Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
>>         > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
>>         > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
>>         <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >> It's a wash out!
>>         >>
>>         >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale,
>>         despite what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and
>>         Tesco, non of them have it on their systems, let alone their
>>         shelves.
>>         >>
>>         >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both
>>         currently over ?21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on
>>         its own currently at ?7.50.
>>         >>
>>         >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't
>>         believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
>>         >>
>>         >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most
>>         local newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine
>>         for a copy.
>>         > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm
>>         sure they'll be
>>         > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in
>>         Bridgend aren't they
>>         > - so it's not a crates from China job.
>>         >
>>         > Alan
>>         Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
>>         I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I
>>         would have
>>         liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be
>>         obtained.
>>         There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that!
>>         I do think
>>         the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold
>>         out, is a
>>         good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless
>>         you have
>>         them lying around, which I don't
>>         The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research
>>         says there
>>         will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>>
>>         People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the
>>         magazine? Well
>>         I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a
>>         few papers
>>         and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a
>>         bit of
>>         everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my
>>         WHSmith
>>         that they could order it. I would guess they would be better
>>         at it if I
>>         were to ask. What do others think?
>>
>>         Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with
>>         magazines and the
>>         PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>>
>>         Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Sun Nov 29 21:27:00 2015
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:27:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DId anyone get a magpi magazine?
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Did the approach of ordering from a newsagent work for anyone?





From em at preseli.com  Sun Nov 29 23:42:04 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 23:42:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
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Both are the same size as a full blown Pi

On Sunday, November 29, 2015, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 28/11/15 18:27, Emyr Morris wrote:
>
> any good?
>
>
> http://uk.farnell.com/piface/piface-control-display/i-o-board-with-lcd-display-for/dp/2344458
>
> Sounds interesting and perhaps it would work
> I was thinking possibly of something like this
>
> http://www.neosecsolutions.com//products.php?28&cPath=17
>
> It is actually a slightly smaller area than a credit card.
>
> But I would need to work out how much battery capacity the screen would
> use.
> There are some pretty powerful battery packs available on-line for
> charging phones that might do the job.
> They seem to  have a higher capacity than some laptops!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> On 28 November 2015 at 16:10, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil at aurinia.co.uk');>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 27/11/15 01:14, S Wathan wrote:
>>
>> The magazine itself can be download for free from the website, I
>> downloaded it today. So its just a case for stockist to get the board back
>> in and not paying the ?30 plus people are paying on ebay
>>
>> That is a very sensible way of looking at it Sarah.
>>
>> There is always someone with money to waste who will pay these silly
>> prices. As you say the magazine is available free and has some really good
>> articles in there.
>> I like the idea of an electronic conference badge that they suggest. I
>> could think of a very good use for one of those for a conference I attend.
>> It would make a point to the charity organising it about the use of the
>> internet that I have been suggesting for years and I could write it on the
>> badge.
>> My suggestions would work on a Pi Zero too.
>> All I need now is a small pocket keyboard solution to program it / change
>> its settings on the go. It would be nice to be able to put video on it too
>> if that is possible.
>>
>> The PI Zero ways just NINE GRAMS. That is half a gram lighter than a
>> pound coin!
>>
>> Incidentally there are examples of the magazine on ebay for ?45 ?49 and
>> ?89. There was one at ?99 the other day.
>> There is something cool though about giving away a computer on the front
>> of a magazine.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> On 27 Nov 2015 00:14, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>>>
>>> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
>>> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>>>
>>> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>>>
>>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>>>
>>> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
>>> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
>>> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
>>> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
>>> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
>>> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
>>> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
>>> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
>>> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>>>
>>> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have
>>> been hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though,
>>> the 4 mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe
>>> soldered would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>>>
>>> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
>>> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
>>> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
>>> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
>>> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
>>> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>>>
>>> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
>>> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
>>> minimum wage person.
>>>
>>> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>>>
>>> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro
>>> USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a
>>> greater number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving
>>> the 40 way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what
>>> they want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>>>
>>> Ramble over. :-)
>>>
>>> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi
>>> Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with
>>> a connector.
>>>
>>> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI
>>> cable for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine
>>> they will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get
>>> one to know I have new set that will be reliable.
>>>
>>> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
>>> kickstarter campaign was running?
>>>
>>> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
>>> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
>>> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>>>
>>> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>>>
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>>> From: Neil Jones < <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil at aurinia.co.uk');>
>>> neil at aurinia.co.uk <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil at aurinia.co.uk');>>
>>>
>>> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
>>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
>>> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
>>> > David Davies-Day <
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>
>>> djdavies83 at hotmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> It's a wash out!
>>> >>
>>> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what
>>> the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on
>>> their systems, let alone their shelves.
>>> >>
>>> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over ?21
>>> ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at ?7.50.
>>> >>
>>> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe
>>> their issue 40 is on ebay.
>>> >>
>>> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local
>>> newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
>>> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll
>>> be
>>> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't
>>> they
>>> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
>>> >
>>> > Alan
>>> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
>>> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
>>> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
>>> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
>>> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
>>> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
>>> them lying around, which I don't
>>> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
>>> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>>>
>>> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
>>> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
>>> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
>>> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
>>> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
>>> were to ask. What do others think?
>>>
>>> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
>>> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From em at preseli.com  Sun Nov 29 23:42:49 2015
From: em at preseli.com (Emyr Morris)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 23:42:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DId anyone get a magpi magazine?
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I will find out Monday or Tuesday

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> Did the approach of ordering from a newsagent work for anyone?
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 30 10:43:34 2015
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:43:34 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DId anyone get a magpi magazine?
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS62930E0C4C1A2763D8454FC6000@phx.gbl>

My newsagent tried to order two on friday, I asked on Saturday and they said it can be up to a week, so it's time to play the waiting game, the waiting game sucks, I wanna play hungry hungry hippos.


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I will find out Monday or Tuesday

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From rankin.dc at gmail.com  Mon Nov 30 15:22:26 2015
From: rankin.dc at gmail.com (David Rankin)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:22:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sewing Machine Loan?
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Hi Guys,

My wife has kindly asked me is she can borrow the sewing machine that
was donated, as she want make some Christmas presents next week.

Think she only needs it for a week or two, an then we shall return it.

If that's ok, can I pick up the sewing machine next week some time?