[Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero

Fri Nov 27 16:47:50 GMT 2015

Got one today - it's tiny!

On Friday, 27 November 2015, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Lucky you :-p
>
> I just called into my local shop and the lady tried to order me two copies
> (one for Ceri), her wholesaler said he would put a request in but cannot
> guarantee he will be able to get them because of the amount of orders they
> have had.
>
> Time will tell, so glad I have inclusive phone minutes, data and Wifi.
>
> P.s. Newport WHSmith are sold out too.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>>
> Date:27/11/2015 14:01 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> ROTFL
>
> The money and time you have spent on phone calls (plus the time of the
> people you have spoken to) would have provided you with about 30 of these
> £4 computers by now!
>
> I've been reassured that my copy of MagPi will be in my local newsagents
> tomorrow - see it when I believe it LOL ;-)
>
>
>
> On 27 November 2015 at 13:54, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Stood outside Smith's swamsea, called in there but was told they would
> only be getting the January edition. I rang Cardiff Queen Street, they said
> they had 12 on their system, but when he wen to check a colleague said
> people were lined up waiting for them to open and they were all gone within
> 10 mins, they had a delivery try ester day and today, they may have some
> more I  tomorrow, their next delivery days are Tuesday and Wednesday. They
> can't hold any and it's first come first served unfortunately.
>
> Before Queen Street I rang central square, they said the wholesaler is out
> of stock, if Queen Street will get any more at all is anyone's guess.
>
> Gonna give Newport a try out of curiosity.
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:40 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Sorry Emyr,  I think that was autocorrection.
>
> As you said about Menzies, there was one of their vans pulling off from
> outside my local Premiere shop this morning, I'll have to call in again
> today to ask if it's been ordered for me.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emyr Morris <em at preseli.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','em at preseli.com');>>
> Date:27/11/2015 10:27 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk');>>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> Emyr not Emry :-(
>
> Sony in Pencoed is where they have been making them for the past two years
> if I remember correctly
>
>
>
> On 27 November 2015 at 00:13, David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
> When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about the
> 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
> Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
> WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
> Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully appreciate
> exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one. I would imagine
> they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they would go through a screen
> printer to add the solder paste, pass through the pick and place machine
> (Mydata19 for example), then the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete,
> into the Automatic Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges,
> dry joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there are no
> though hole components there would not be a manual inspection, maybe a
> quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it off to packing!
>
> Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd have been
> hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before that though, the 4
> mounting holes and any other hales or pads that should not tmbe soldered
> would need to be manually masked using Kapton tape.
>
> After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards, puts
> then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person would remove the
> tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges, re-seat any raised
> components,  fit any missing ones or ones that cannot go through a wave
> machine, the solder side would be washed with a safe liquid solution,
> manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
> If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they would
> have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a UK national
> minimum wage person.
>
> (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
> In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the micro USB,
> mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest to allow a greater
> number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed in on pass, leaving the 40
> way through holes pads unpopulated for the end customer to do what they
> want with cuts a out a huge chuck of extra assembly time.
>
> Ramble over. :-)
>
> The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the Pi Zero
> still has Composite video out, even if I will have to populate it with a
> connector.
>
> The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini HDMI cable
> for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my phone, I imagine they
> will work with the Zero, I don't really need a bundle, but I may get one to
> know I have new set that will be reliable.
>
> Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back when the
> kickstarter campaign was running?
>
> The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but has
> built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI shield is an
> extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>
> http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
> Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil at aurinia.co.uk');>>
> Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
> On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
> > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djdavies83 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a wash out!
> >>
> >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite what the
> website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them have it on their
> systems, let alone their shelves.
> >>
> >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently over £21 )
> in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own currently at £7.50.
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't believe their
> issue 40 is on ebay.
> >>
> >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local newsagents
> should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
> > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure they'll be
> > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend aren't they
> > - so it's not a crates from China job.
> >
> > Alan
> Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
> I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would have
> liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
> There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do think
> the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
> good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you have
> them lying around, which I don't
> The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says there
> will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
> People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
> I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few papers
> and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
> everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
> that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it if I
> were to ask. What do others think?
>
> Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines and the
> PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
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