From djdavies83 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 19:01:23 2016 From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 19:01:23 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Too cheap to be true? A8 Desktop 3D Printer Prusa i3 DIY Kit Message-ID: http://m.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_337314.html No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at discordia.org.uk Thu Apr 7 09:20:09 2016 From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:20:09 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Too cheap to be true? A8 Desktop 3D Printer Prusa i3 DIY Kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1460017209.16621.1.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 19:01 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote: > http://m.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_337314.html Prusa i3 kits start at about ?140 on aliexpress, so ?114 on sale sounds plausible. From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 09:50:00 2016 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:50:00 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Too cheap to be true? A8 Desktop 3D Printer Prusa i3 DIY Kit In-Reply-To: <1460017209.16621.1.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> References: <1460017209.16621.1.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> Message-ID: for ?114 it is amazing, but I would check on postage, one of the comments, $288 much more than the cost of printer. Just get it !! On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Justin Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 19:01 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote: > > http://m.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_337314.html > > Prusa i3 kits start at about ?140 on aliexpress, > so ?114 on sale sounds plausible. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwiondavies at LIVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 7 09:56:46 2016 From: gwiondavies at LIVE.CO.UK (Gwion Davies) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 08:56:46 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Too cheap to be true? A8 Desktop 3D Printer Prusa i3 DIY Kit In-Reply-To: References: <1460017209.16621.1.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com>, Message-ID: eBay has many i3 kits for ?160 from uk sellers. For the sake of saving ?40-50 I would rather buy uk as you don't run the risk of any unexpected charges. On 7 Apr 2016, at 09:51, Ceri Clatworthy > wrote: for ?114 it is amazing, but I would check on postage, one of the comments, $288 much more than the cost of printer. Just get it !! On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Justin Mitchell > wrote: On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 19:01 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote: > http://m.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_337314.html Prusa i3 kits start at about ?140 on aliexpress, so ?114 on sale sounds plausible. _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nhackett1 at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 17:42:23 2016 From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:42:23 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Ubiquiti Access Points? Message-ID: I was looking at picking up a couple of APs for myself, came across this deal on ebay- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-x-UBiQUiTi-UniFi-AP-2-4GHz-300Mb-s-Wireless-Access-Point-PoE-Adapter-Bundle-/111956661324 Works out at ?17.50 each, amazing deal, but 12 is rather a lot! They have a few "enterprise" type features which could be useful for us, like a captive portal for non-logged in users, seamless handoff, and load balancing to spread the connections between different units (good for busy evenings with lots of connected devices). Apparently great range too. Anyway I'd be happy to get the 12 up front, have two for myself, and then sell the spares to whoever wants them. 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eBay has many i3 kits for ?160 from uk sellers. For the sake of saving ?40-50 I would rather buy uk as you don't run the risk of any unexpected charges. On 7 Apr 2016, at 09:51, Ceri Clatworthy > wrote: for ?114 it is amazing, but I would check on postage, one of the comments, $288 much more than the cost of printer. Just get it !! On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Justin Mitchell > wrote: On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 19:01 +0100, David Davies-Day wrote: > http://m.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_337314.html Prusa i3 kits start at about ?140 on aliexpress, so ?114 on sale sounds plausible. _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From neil at aurinia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 16:32:37 2016 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:32:37 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Difficulty with German word Message-ID: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> Hi Herbert, I am looking at buying an old book from 1936 on line. It is written in German and my German isn't actually good enough to be truthful, but I am looking at trying to learn it properly at some point which in 2 years of studying it in school I got nowhere near, I am working on a long term project to try to build a large website documenting all the world's butterflies using old texts as a source with some AI stuff I hope will work to help in various ways. To get started I am trying some of the lower hanging fruit. and this book is a comprehensive taxonomic work on a significant species. I have located a copy on line at reasonable price but I am having a little difficulty with the words in the description. I wonder if you can help Buch im altersbedingt guten Zustand, Bucheinband ein wenig eingerissen, Seiten und Bucheinband altersbedingt nachgedunkelt, Seiten leicht anrissig I translate this as Book in good condition relative to its age, Book cover a little torn. Pages and book cover darkened with age. Pages easily SOMETHING. The something is the problem. I can't find a decent translation for "anrissig". I have been able to find "anriss" as crack which suggests that it is easly cracked or something, but I am always cautious in extrapolating with words given that language can be so idiomatic. I always think of awsome and awful which originally had similar meanings but drifted apart. If I do get it I might actually get down to learnning a bit more German which is an aim of mine. Best wishes Neil From neil at aurinia.co.uk Mon Apr 11 16:35:28 2016 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:35:28 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Difficulty with German word In-Reply-To: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> References: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <570BC440.10902@aurinia.co.uk> Sorry folks this wasn;t meant for the list. I am going to have to do something about my mail system Neil On 11/04/16 16:32, Neil Jones wrote: > Hi Herbert, > > I am looking at buying an old book from 1936 on line. It is written in > German and my German isn't actually good enough to be truthful, > but I am looking at trying to learn it properly at some point which in > 2 years of studying it in school I got nowhere near, > I am working on a long term project to try to build a large website > documenting all the world's butterflies using old texts as a source with > some AI stuff I hope will work to help in various ways. To get started > I am trying some of the lower hanging fruit. and this book is a > comprehensive > taxonomic work on a significant species. > I have located a copy on line at reasonable price but I am having a > little difficulty with the words in the description. > I wonder if you can help > > Buch im altersbedingt guten Zustand, Bucheinband ein wenig > eingerissen, Seiten und Bucheinband altersbedingt nachgedunkelt, > Seiten leicht anrissig > > I translate this as Book in good condition relative to its age, Book > cover a little torn. Pages and book cover darkened with age. Pages > easily SOMETHING. > > The something is the problem. I can't find a decent translation for > "anrissig". I have been able to find "anriss" as crack which suggests > that it is easly cracked or something, but I am always cautious in > extrapolating with words given that language can be so idiomatic. I > always think of awsome and awful which originally had similar meanings > but drifted apart. > > If I do get it I might actually get down to learnning a bit more > German which is an aim of mine. > > Best wishes > > Neil From ralf.lieb.cymru at googlemail.com Mon Apr 11 16:36:26 2016 From: ralf.lieb.cymru at googlemail.com (Ralf Lieb) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:36:26 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Difficulty with German word In-Reply-To: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> References: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: Slightly fringed/creased pages On Apr 11, 2016 4:32 PM, "Neil Jones" wrote: > Hi Herbert, > > I am looking at buying an old book from 1936 on line. It is written in > German and my German isn't actually good enough to be truthful, > but I am looking at trying to learn it properly at some point which in 2 > years of studying it in school I got nowhere near, > I am working on a long term project to try to build a large website > documenting all the world's butterflies using old texts as a source with > some AI stuff I hope will work to help in various ways. To get started I > am trying some of the lower hanging fruit. and this book is a comprehensive > taxonomic work on a significant species. > I have located a copy on line at reasonable price but I am having a > little difficulty with the words in the description. > I wonder if you can help > > Buch im altersbedingt guten Zustand, Bucheinband ein wenig eingerissen, > Seiten und Bucheinband altersbedingt nachgedunkelt, Seiten leicht anrissig > > I translate this as Book in good condition relative to its age, Book cover > a little torn. Pages and book cover darkened with age. Pages easily > SOMETHING. > > The something is the problem. I can't find a decent translation for > "anrissig". I have been able to find "anriss" as crack which suggests that > it is easly cracked or something, but I am always cautious in extrapolating > with words given that language can be so idiomatic. I always think of > awsome and awful which originally had similar meanings but drifted apart. > > If I do get it I might actually get down to learnning a bit more German > which is an aim of mine. > > Best wishes > > Neil > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon.j.lilley at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 18:41:59 2016 From: jon.j.lilley at gmail.com (jon lilley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:41:59 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Difficulty with German word In-Reply-To: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> References: <570BC395.8080102@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: Have you taken a look at: http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/papilio-machaon-l/ ? Some English descriptions, as well as your German one. :) On 11 Apr 2016 4:32 p.m., "Neil Jones" wrote: > Hi Herbert, > > I am looking at buying an old book from 1936 on line. It is written in > German and my German isn't actually good enough to be truthful, > but I am looking at trying to learn it properly at some point which in 2 > years of studying it in school I got nowhere near, > I am working on a long term project to try to build a large website > documenting all the world's butterflies using old texts as a source with > some AI stuff I hope will work to help in various ways. To get started I > am trying some of the lower hanging fruit. and this book is a comprehensive > taxonomic work on a significant species. > I have located a copy on line at reasonable price but I am having a > little difficulty with the words in the description. > I wonder if you can help > > Buch im altersbedingt guten Zustand, Bucheinband ein wenig eingerissen, > Seiten und Bucheinband altersbedingt nachgedunkelt, Seiten leicht anrissig > > I translate this as Book in good condition relative to its age, Book cover > a little torn. Pages and book cover darkened with age. Pages easily > SOMETHING. > > The something is the problem. I can't find a decent translation for > "anrissig". I have been able to find "anriss" as crack which suggests that > it is easly cracked or something, but I am always cautious in extrapolating > with words given that language can be so idiomatic. I always think of > awsome and awful which originally had similar meanings but drifted apart. > > If I do get it I might actually get down to learnning a bit more German > which is an aim of mine. > > Best wishes > > Neil > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at aurinia.co.uk Tue Apr 12 23:06:29 2016 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] If you have had a bad day? Message-ID: <570D7165.6030107@aurinia.co.uk> If you have had a bad day today April 12.Think of what a man called Ronald did on this date in 1976. Never heard of him? He was one of the founders of Apple computers and on that date he sold his 10% stake for $800 It is now worth over $50 billion! Oh dear! Neil From neil at aurinia.co.uk Tue Apr 12 23:28:05 2016 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:28:05 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] If you have had a bad day? In-Reply-To: <570D7165.6030107@aurinia.co.uk> References: <570D7165.6030107@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <570D7675.7060406@aurinia.co.uk> oops that was Ronald Wayne! On 12/04/16 23:06, Neil Jones wrote: > If you have had a bad day today April 12.Think of what a man called > Ronald did on this date in 1976. Never heard of him? > He was one of the founders of Apple computers and on that date he sold > his 10% stake for $800 > It is now worth over $50 billion! > > Oh dear! > > Neil > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Wed Apr 13 01:27:42 2016 From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:27:42 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] If you have had a bad day? In-Reply-To: <570D7675.7060406@aurinia.co.uk> References: <570D7165.6030107@aurinia.co.uk> <570D7675.7060406@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <20160413012742.7b93415f@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:28:05 +0100 Neil Jones wrote: > oops that was Ronald Wayne! And not really much to do with the hackspace (oh and btw - he's still *happy* he sold the stake at the time, because he had sound reasons to do so) From timmoore47 at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 08:14:53 2016 From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:14:53 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] If you have had a bad day? In-Reply-To: <20160413012742.7b93415f@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> References: <570D7165.6030107@aurinia.co.uk> <570D7675.7060406@aurinia.co.uk> <20160413012742.7b93415f@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> Message-ID: Off Topic:- Did someone post a link for a German parts company opening up a chanch in UK with very reasonable pricing ? I've lost the link to it. Any ideas anyone ? Tim_1 On 13 April 2016 at 01:27, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:28:05 +0100 > Neil Jones wrote: > > > oops that was Ronald Wayne! > > And not really much to do with the hackspace (oh and btw - he's still > *happy* he sold the stake at the time, because he had sound reasons to do > so) > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 08:57:11 2016 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:57:11 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] how about a REAL challenge Message-ID: Do you think we could make a version of this ?? https://youtu.be/loI1Kwed8Pk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Fri Apr 22 17:11:16 2016 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 17:11:16 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options Message-ID: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our building and moved up the road to High Street. We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of which have now fallen through for one reason or another. As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to make the decisions quickly: We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to find additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and would give us our own space with door access and window space. At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which option they would prefer. We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what cost to be of any help. If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me or the other directors off-list. thanks From nhackett1 at gmail.com Sat Apr 23 09:10:07 2016 From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 09:10:07 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options In-Reply-To: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> References: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> Message-ID: Personally I'd rather we had less space but with more autonomy and available funds, rather than stay at the current location. How small is 'small' anyway? :) I appreciate all the work you and the other directors are doing to get this resolved, it doesn't go unnoticed. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Justin Mitchell < justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative > locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our building and > moved up the road to High Street. > > We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were > very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of > which have now fallen through for one reason or another. > > As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to > make the decisions quickly: > > We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to find > additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as > well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. > > or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it > needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and > would give us our own space with door access and window space. > > At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which option > they would prefer. > > We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are > aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you > would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what cost > to be of any help. > > If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me or the > other directors off-list. > > thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Sat Apr 23 11:09:26 2016 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 11:09:26 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options In-Reply-To: References: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> Message-ID: Where in Sketty. . I don't know it at all. And is there parking? Ceri Personally I'd rather we had less space but with more autonomy and available funds, rather than stay at the current location. How small is 'small' anyway? :) I appreciate all the work you and the other directors are doing to get this resolved, it doesn't go unnoticed. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Justin Mitchell < justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative > locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our building and > moved up the road to High Street. > > We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were > very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of > which have now fallen through for one reason or another. > > As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to > make the decisions quickly: > > We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to find > additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as > well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. > > or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it > needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and > would give us our own space with door access and window space. > > At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which option > they would prefer. > > We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are > aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you > would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what cost > to be of any help. > > If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me or the > other directors off-list. > > thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at aurinia.co.uk Sat Apr 23 17:22:43 2016 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:22:43 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options In-Reply-To: References: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> Message-ID: <571BA153.9040003@aurinia.co.uk> On 23/04/16 09:10, Nathan Hackett wrote: > Personally I'd rather we had less space but with more autonomy and > available funds, rather than stay at the current location. How small > is 'small' anyway? :) > I actually emailed Justin personally as he invited us to. I said in my email more or less that I wouldn't divulge the exact details because I realised that the list was public and googleable and there was a risk that someone else may jump in and grab the premises. You may recall that I raised this issue as a problem when this list was created. Justin has provided me with some details which I obviously can't post here. I don't think the space we are considering is too small. Going from the square footage this seems to be a far better space than we had upstairs in our original room in Wind Street and from the nature of the place it is fairly typical of the kind of windowed premises we would be likely to consider anywhere in Swansea. I'd rather we had somewhere in the town centre but this isn't too remote. It is walkable to and from the train station if, like me, you enjoy walking. There are good public transport links. Having chatted with various people at the social evenings and done some research myself on rents in Swansea I think if this is available and Justin says it is within our means to rent, then it is a good option. The current space is nice. It is spacious which is a big advantage. The downsides are the cost, which we can't currently afford long term its lack of shop windows and the problems of access, shared access etc. Shop windows are going to be important if we are going to advertise ourselves and the Sketty proposed place has them. What does concern me, after chatting to people at the socials, is that currently we are actually living beyond our means. This means as Justin said we need more members. I think Nathan sums up my feelings on the matter as autonomy and available funds are actually rather critical to meet our desires in the long term. We are more likely to gain new members if we have a more public presence rather than being hidden away in a building in town, even if it is conveniently located. I am convinced that there are more potential members to find out there. I am wondering if it is worth considering having an informal meeting to inform people or even if one of the directors just turns up with a laptop and plugs it into our large screen and shows us the details on Monday night during the social? > I appreciate all the work you and the other directors are doing to get > this resolved, it doesn't go unnoticed. Hear Hear! I understand that a lot of the work is being done by Gerrit. So thanks Gerrit! Neil > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Justin Mitchell > > wrote: > > As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative > locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our > building and > moved up the road to High Street. > > We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were > very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of > which have now fallen through for one reason or another. > > As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to > make the decisions quickly: > > We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to > find > additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as > well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. > > or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it > needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and > would give us our own space with door access and window space. > > At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which > option > they would prefer. > > We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are > aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you > would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what > cost > to be of any help. > > If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me > or the > other directors off-list. > > thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nhackett1 at gmail.com Sat Apr 23 18:07:46 2016 From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:07:46 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options In-Reply-To: <571BA153.9040003@aurinia.co.uk> References: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> <571BA153.9040003@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: I'm in Sketty quite often so I can add some local info... Parking can be a struggle after the schools let out but generally it's manageable. The food options are great, besides Tesco and Sainsburys, theres a really nice sandwich place, Indian, Chinese, decent chippie. Maybe not as much foot traffic as Uplands, but still plenty busy, students etc. Would be great for exposure. Generally a safe and friendly area. Also 5 minutes walk from Singleton park, which has enough wide open spaces for quadcopters etc (not sure about their policies on that though). Hope that helps! On 23/04/16 09:10, Nathan Hackett wrote: Personally I'd rather we had less space but with more autonomy and available funds, rather than stay at the current location. How small is 'small' anyway? :) I actually emailed Justin personally as he invited us to. I said in my email more or less that I wouldn't divulge the exact details because I realised that the list was public and googleable and there was a risk that someone else may jump in and grab the premises. You may recall that I raised this issue as a problem when this list was created. Justin has provided me with some details which I obviously can't post here. I don't think the space we are considering is too small. Going from the square footage this seems to be a far better space than we had upstairs in our original room in Wind Street and from the nature of the place it is fairly typical of the kind of windowed premises we would be likely to consider anywhere in Swansea. I'd rather we had somewhere in the town centre but this isn't too remote. It is walkable to and from the train station if, like me, you enjoy walking. There are good public transport links. Having chatted with various people at the social evenings and done some research myself on rents in Swansea I think if this is available and Justin says it is within our means to rent, then it is a good option. The current space is nice. It is spacious which is a big advantage. The downsides are the cost, which we can't currently afford long term its lack of shop windows and the problems of access, shared access etc. Shop windows are going to be important if we are going to advertise ourselves and the Sketty proposed place has them. What does concern me, after chatting to people at the socials, is that currently we are actually living beyond our means. This means as Justin said we need more members. I think Nathan sums up my feelings on the matter as autonomy and available funds are actually rather critical to meet our desires in the long term. We are more likely to gain new members if we have a more public presence rather than being hidden away in a building in town, even if it is conveniently located. I am convinced that there are more potential members to find out there. I am wondering if it is worth considering having an informal meeting to inform people or even if one of the directors just turns up with a laptop and plugs it into our large screen and shows us the details on Monday night during the social? I appreciate all the work you and the other directors are doing to get this resolved, it doesn't go unnoticed. Hear Hear! I understand that a lot of the work is being done by Gerrit. So thanks Gerrit! Neil On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Justin Mitchell < justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative > locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our building and > moved up the road to High Street. > > We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were > very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of > which have now fallen through for one reason or another. > > As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to > make the decisions quickly: > > We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to find > additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as > well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. > > or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it > needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and > would give us our own space with door access and window space. > > At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which option > they would prefer. > > We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are > aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you > would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what cost > to be of any help. > > If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me or the > other directors off-list. > > thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at hoskins.eu Sun Apr 24 12:48:23 2016 From: brian at hoskins.eu (Brian J Hoskins) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:48:23 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options In-Reply-To: References: <1461341476.5321.27.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> <571BA153.9040003@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: I am interested to know more about the Sketty property. Is someone able to send me a mail with the details? On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Nathan Hackett wrote: > I'm in Sketty quite often so I can add some local info... Parking can be a > struggle after the schools let out but generally it's manageable. The food > options are great, besides Tesco and Sainsburys, theres a really nice > sandwich place, Indian, Chinese, decent chippie. Maybe not as much foot > traffic as Uplands, but still plenty busy, students etc. Would be great for > exposure. Generally a safe and friendly area. Also 5 minutes walk from > Singleton park, which has enough wide open spaces for quadcopters etc (not > sure about their policies on that though). > > Hope that helps! > > > On 23/04/16 09:10, Nathan Hackett wrote: > > Personally I'd rather we had less space but with more autonomy and > available funds, rather than stay at the current location. How small is > 'small' anyway? :) > > I actually emailed Justin personally as he invited us to. I said in my > email more or less that I wouldn't divulge the exact details because I > realised that the list was public and googleable and there was a risk that > someone else may jump in and grab the premises. You may recall that I > raised this issue as a problem when this list was created. Justin has > provided me with some details which I obviously can't post here. > > I don't think the space we are considering is too small. Going from the > square footage this seems to be a far better space than we had upstairs in > our original room in Wind Street and from the nature of the place it is > fairly typical of the kind of windowed premises we would be likely to > consider anywhere in Swansea. > > I'd rather we had somewhere in the town centre but this isn't too remote. > It is walkable to and from the train station if, like me, you enjoy walking. > There are good public transport links. > > Having chatted with various people at the social evenings and done some > research myself on rents in Swansea I think if this is available and > Justin says it is within our means to rent, then it is a good option. > The current space is nice. It is spacious which is a big advantage. The > downsides are the cost, which we can't currently afford long term its lack > of shop windows > and the problems of access, shared access etc. Shop windows are going to > be important if we are going to advertise ourselves and the Sketty proposed > place has them. > > What does concern me, after chatting to people at the socials, is that > currently we are actually living beyond our means. This means as Justin > said we need more members. I think Nathan sums up my feelings on the matter > as autonomy and available funds are actually rather critical to meet our > desires in the long term. > We are more likely to gain new members if we have a more public presence > rather than being hidden away in a building in town, even if it is > conveniently located. > I am convinced that there are more potential members to find out there. > > I am wondering if it is worth considering having an informal meeting to > inform people or even if one of the directors just turns up with a laptop > and plugs it into our large screen and shows us the details on Monday night > during the social? > > I appreciate all the work you and the other directors are doing to get > this resolved, it doesn't go unnoticed. > > > Hear Hear! > I understand that a lot of the work is being done by Gerrit. So thanks > Gerrit! > > Neil > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Justin Mitchell < > justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote: > >> As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative >> locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our building and >> moved up the road to High Street. >> >> We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were >> very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of >> which have now fallen through for one reason or another. >> >> As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to >> make the decisions quickly: >> >> We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to find >> additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as >> well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. >> >> or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it >> needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and >> would give us our own space with door access and window space. >> >> At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which option >> they would prefer. >> >> We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are >> aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you >> would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what cost >> to be of any help. >> >> If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me or the >> other directors off-list. >> >> thanks >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From punkaled at yahoo.co.uk Sun Apr 24 13:50:02 2016 From: punkaled at yahoo.co.uk (Aled) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options References: <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I think sketty could be a great option as far as location goes, it's close to the uni halls and student village, and should be a lot easier for parking than a town centre location, and wind Street isn't the most inviting place. How much smaller is it? As long as we can fit everything in it might be better to have a small place that's busy than a large space that's mostly empty? I'm happy to help with any of the decorating/setting up if you do go for that option. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 22/4/16, Justin Mitchell wrote: Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options To: "hackspace" Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 17:11 As many of you will have heard, we have been investigating alternative locations for the Hackspace ever since TechHub vacated our building and moved up the road to High Street. We had been holding back on publicly announcing a move because we were very close to finalising the details for a number of spaces, all of which have now fallen through for one reason or another. As of today we have only two options available to us, and we need to make the decisions quickly: We can stay where we are, but it is expensive, and we will need to find additional members and income to be able to afford to stay there, as well as needing to arrange better door and internet access. or, we can move to a smaller place we have been offered in Sketty. it needs some tidying and decorating, but is much more affordable, and would give us our own space with door access and window space. At this point we would welcome opinions from the members on which option they would prefer. We would especially be interested in any alternatives that people are aware of, there are a lot of empty properties around Swansea, so you would need to know they are actually available and at roughly what cost to be of any help. If anyone wants more details on any of the above please email me or the other directors off-list. thanks _______________________________________________ Hackspace mailing list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Sun Apr 24 14:01:21 2016 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:01:21 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Moving Options In-Reply-To: <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1461502881.19683.4.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> On Sun, 2016-04-24 at 12:50 +0000, Aled wrote: > How much smaller is it? As long as we can fit everything in it might be better to have a small place that's busy than a large space that's mostly empty? Details have been sent to all that asked. There will likely be further discussion on the subject at tomorrow nights social. > I'm happy to help with any of the decorating/setting up if you do go for that option. All offers of help gratefully received, we will of course make an announcement and request for help as soon as a decision is made and details sorted out. From alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Mon Apr 25 00:48:42 2016 From: alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 00:48:42 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Sheds In-Reply-To: <1461502881.19683.4.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> References: <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1877859527.1727170.1461502202408.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1461502881.19683.4.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <20160425004842.7d1e2197@www.etchedpixels.co.uk> https://wacds.org.uk/mens-sheds-cymru-co-production-at-work/ Is anyone talking to the Swansea folks involved in this. I saw they had some adverts up for the Swansea one. Alan From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk Mon Apr 25 09:36:02 2016 From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:36:02 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New venue Message-ID: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D678EB5267@ISS-MBX01.tawe.swan.ac.uk> Dear All, I have been following the recent discussions with interest. My involvement with theSwansea Radio Soc has taken me from Gors Road to the old Palace Theatre (now derelict), to various pubs across town, to the University, and now to the golf club as different venues have become available. Amateur Radio no longer attracts young people, that role seems to be filled by organisations such as our Hackspace. Putting aside considerations of available space and so on, I observe that if you wish to attract new members, especially younger members, then avoid the more "colourful" parts of Town. Picture the scene between concerned parent and enthusiastic young person: "I want to go the Swansea Hackspace" "That's nice, dear, Mummy/Daddy will take you there in the Volvo/4WD/RollsRoyce" (other makes are available). ... "It's WHERE? That's not for nice young people" ... OK I know that sounds a bit like a Sit Com but I have seen it in action, when the Radio Soc has been down on its luck regarding venues. So, the genteel surroundings of Sketty may have the effect of bringing in new members that would be a bit more cautious about going to the "colouful" areas, however elegant and well equipped the actual premises All the best, Timothy Davies ________________________________________ From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Apr 25 11:01:21 2016 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:01:21 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New venue In-Reply-To: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D678EB5267@ISS-MBX01.tawe.swan.ac.uk> References: <6FB643A267727643884C49BA9D61C9D678EB5267@ISS-MBX01.tawe.swan.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1461578481.15522.8.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> On Mon, 2016-04-25 at 08:36 +0000, Davies T. wrote: [snip] > So, the genteel surroundings of Sketty may have the effect > of bringing in new members that would be a bit more cautious > about going to the "colouful" areas, however elegant and well > equipped the actual premises This has been a concern of mine in the past, that our current location puts some people off, certainly more so towards the weekends. Also that we are not visible from the street making it harder to find us. My hopes for a new space would be that having street level visibility will act as passive advertising to passers by as well as making us easier to locate for first timers. From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Apr 25 12:05:08 2016 From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:05:08 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] Robot Challenge @ Swansea Jam Message-ID: <1461582308.15522.22.camel@justin.llw.rokcorp.com> When: Sunday 15th May 2016 Time: any time 10am - 4pm Where: Techhub Swansea, Urban Village, 221 High Street, Swansea What: Robot Challenge Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/swansea-jam-tickets-23798915196 Swansea Hackspace will be attending this years Swansea Jam being held by PiCymru on Sunday 15th May at Techhub's new premises on High Street. At this event we will be running a set of Robot Challenges that anyone can enter. There will be a line following course, and an obstacle avoidance / maze course. You can come along at any time during the Jam and enter a robot, all runs will be timed and the best times will go up on our leader board. With prizes being awarded at the end of the day. The challenges have been designed with the robots from our How to Build a Robot course in mind, but you may enter your own choice of robot, or borrow and reprogram one of ours. We will be offering the graphical Blockly system to reprogram our robots, so no previous experience is required, and you can also prepare and download your own code in advance from our website. http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/blockly/ From neil at aurinia.co.uk Thu Apr 28 20:36:27 2016 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:36:27 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] New PI Camera Message-ID: <5722663B.5020206@aurinia.co.uk> Hi everyone, Just in case you hadn't heard there is a new camera module out for the Raspberry Pi It is 8MP. It appears it is because of the "end of life" of the old one. There are some details and interesting projects here:- https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi-issues/MagPi45.pdf Neil