From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Thu Dec  1 12:18:27 2016
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:18:27 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Zigbee and Raspberry Pi
Message-ID: <CANSRvvDfoD=JUSX_6Egr0JJREwPWuSUERRoMEdG=fGF_3joCxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I'm preparing for my next hack-project and I was wondering if there's a
suitable Zigbee interface for the Raspberry Pi that anyone has come across?

Ideally I want to look at using the Raspberry Pi to talk to a Smart
Meter-Home Area Network which uses Zigbee.

Not sure yet what exactly the project is going to build (likely some sort
of In-Home Display showing energy usage and metrics) but being able to
interface will be a definite requirement...

-- 
Kind regards,

Richard
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From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Thu Dec  1 12:24:39 2016
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (Thomas Lake)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:24:39 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Zigbee and Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvDfoD=JUSX_6Egr0JJREwPWuSUERRoMEdG=fGF_3joCxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDfoD=JUSX_6Egr0JJREwPWuSUERRoMEdG=fGF_3joCxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3b89279a-e390-ab15-3d67-3907e9185ab6@sucs.org>



On 01/12/16 12:18, Richard Morgan wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm preparing for my next hack-project and I was wondering if there's a
> suitable Zigbee interface for the Raspberry Pi that anyone has come across?
> 
> Ideally I want to look at using the Raspberry Pi to talk to a Smart
> Meter-Home Area Network which uses Zigbee.

You can get adapters for Zigbee that let you connect them to USB or
Serial (DB9/RS232) ports. They either spit the data out directly or as
packets, depending on what mode the devices are in - although that's a
detail for the software side rather than the hardware side.

Not sure if anyone has made a dedicated Raspberry Pi interface, but you
could probably adapt the RS232 connection if you can't use the USB one
for some reason.

- Tom



From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Thu Dec  1 12:38:01 2016
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:38:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Zigbee and Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <3b89279a-e390-ab15-3d67-3907e9185ab6@sucs.org>
References: <CANSRvvDfoD=JUSX_6Egr0JJREwPWuSUERRoMEdG=fGF_3joCxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3b89279a-e390-ab15-3d67-3907e9185ab6@sucs.org>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvDEuq4Sfw5m4E-=BbRhQHoucEjRDWVnTMd0Sm-dTCUx8w@mail.gmail.com>

Cheers Tom

On 1 December 2016 at 12:24, Thomas Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 01/12/16 12:18, Richard Morgan wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I'm preparing for my next hack-project and I was wondering if there's a
> > suitable Zigbee interface for the Raspberry Pi that anyone has come
> across?
> >
> > Ideally I want to look at using the Raspberry Pi to talk to a Smart
> > Meter-Home Area Network which uses Zigbee.
>
> You can get adapters for Zigbee that let you connect them to USB or
> Serial (DB9/RS232) ports. They either spit the data out directly or as
> packets, depending on what mode the devices are in - although that's a
> detail for the software side rather than the hardware side.
>
> Not sure if anyone has made a dedicated Raspberry Pi interface, but you
> could probably adapt the RS232 connection if you can't use the USB one
> for some reason.
>
> - Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>



-- 
Kind regards,

Richard
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Dec  1 12:42:23 2016
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:42:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ESP32
Message-ID: <1480596143.27249.7.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

I note that ESP32 dev boards are now appearing on aliexpress,
in the NodeMCU style like the cheap ESP8266 ones we now stock.

They appear to be in the ?18-20 each range for the moment.
e.g.?https://www.aliexpress.com/item//32758840305.html

I know these are faster, more memory, and have bluetooth as well as the
wifi, but what was it that people wanted to learn about them?
ie what topic could a workshop be run on ?





From gerrit.niezen at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 13:35:57 2016
From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com (Gerrit Niezen)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:35:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Zigbee and Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <CANSRvvDEuq4Sfw5m4E-=BbRhQHoucEjRDWVnTMd0Sm-dTCUx8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDfoD=JUSX_6Egr0JJREwPWuSUERRoMEdG=fGF_3joCxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3b89279a-e390-ab15-3d67-3907e9185ab6@sucs.org>
	<CANSRvvDEuq4Sfw5m4E-=BbRhQHoucEjRDWVnTMd0Sm-dTCUx8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E9624FE-B08C-41F0-BC5E-01C2A4545A67@gmail.com>

Hi Richard,

I doubt you'll be able to successfully get data from your smart meter, as it's usually encrypted. (What, companies not allowing you access to your own data? It happens more often than you think.) Best place to look for more info would be the OpenEnergyMonitor folks up in Bangor - see the thread on their forum here: https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/smart-meters/291 <https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/smart-meters/291> . If you're into home automation/monitoring I'd definitely recommend their gear - open-source hardware designed in Wales and also made in the UK.

In 2012 I backed a Kickstarter project for a Raspberry Pi based wireless gateway called EVE Alpha (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspberry-pi-wireless-development-hardwa <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspberry-pi-wireless-development-hardwa>). You're welcome to borrow mine - the board plugs into the GPIO adapter of your Raspberry Pi, and then you can plug in an Zigbee node straight into the Xbee socket on the board. 

Cheers,
Gerrit

> On 1 Dec 2016, at 12:38, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Cheers Tom
> 
> On 1 December 2016 at 12:24, Thomas Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org <mailto:tswsl1989 at sucs.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/12/16 12:18, Richard Morgan wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I'm preparing for my next hack-project and I was wondering if there's a
> > suitable Zigbee interface for the Raspberry Pi that anyone has come across?
> >
> > Ideally I want to look at using the Raspberry Pi to talk to a Smart
> > Meter-Home Area Network which uses Zigbee.
> 
> You can get adapters for Zigbee that let you connect them to USB or
> Serial (DB9/RS232) ports. They either spit the data out directly or as
> packets, depending on what mode the devices are in - although that's a
> detail for the software side rather than the hardware side.
> 
> Not sure if anyone has made a dedicated Raspberry Pi interface, but you
> could probably adapt the RS232 connection if you can't use the USB one
> for some reason.
> 
> - Tom
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Richard
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk  Thu Dec  1 13:56:09 2016
From: richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk (Richard Morgan)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:56:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Zigbee and Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <4E9624FE-B08C-41F0-BC5E-01C2A4545A67@gmail.com>
References: <CANSRvvDfoD=JUSX_6Egr0JJREwPWuSUERRoMEdG=fGF_3joCxQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3b89279a-e390-ab15-3d67-3907e9185ab6@sucs.org>
	<CANSRvvDEuq4Sfw5m4E-=BbRhQHoucEjRDWVnTMd0Sm-dTCUx8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E9624FE-B08C-41F0-BC5E-01C2A4545A67@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANSRvvAo+wDvXY_xotB3o2ywr_VKbc=vZVkoavDLWkz_T5+gAg@mail.gmail.com>

Many thanks Gerrit - big fan of the 'Made in Wales' idea :-)

On 1 December 2016 at 13:35, Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> I doubt you'll be able to successfully get data from your smart meter, as
> it's usually encrypted. (What, companies not allowing you access to your
> own data? It happens more often than you think.) Best place to look for
> more info would be the OpenEnergyMonitor folks up in Bangor - see the
> thread on their forum here: https://community.
> openenergymonitor.org/t/smart-meters/291 . If you're into home
> automation/monitoring I'd definitely recommend their gear - open-source
> hardware designed in Wales and also made in the UK.
>
> In 2012 I backed a Kickstarter project for a Raspberry Pi based wireless
> gateway called EVE Alpha (https://www.kickstarter.com/
> projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspberry-pi-wireless-development-hardwa).
> You're welcome to borrow mine - the board plugs into the GPIO adapter of
> your Raspberry Pi, and then you can plug in an Zigbee node straight into
> the Xbee socket on the board.
>
> Cheers,
> Gerrit
>
> On 1 Dec 2016, at 12:38, Richard Morgan <richard.morgan at avocation.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Cheers Tom
>
> On 1 December 2016 at 12:24, Thomas Lake <tswsl1989 at sucs.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 01/12/16 12:18, Richard Morgan wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> > I'm preparing for my next hack-project and I was wondering if there's a
>> > suitable Zigbee interface for the Raspberry Pi that anyone has come
>> across?
>> >
>> > Ideally I want to look at using the Raspberry Pi to talk to a Smart
>> > Meter-Home Area Network which uses Zigbee.
>>
>> You can get adapters for Zigbee that let you connect them to USB or
>> Serial (DB9/RS232) ports. They either spit the data out directly or as
>> packets, depending on what mode the devices are in - although that's a
>> detail for the software side rather than the hardware side.
>>
>> Not sure if anyone has made a dedicated Raspberry Pi interface, but you
>> could probably adapt the RS232 connection if you can't use the USB one
>> for some reason.
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Richard
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>


-- 
Kind regards,

Richard
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From tim at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Dec  2 15:07:36 2016
From: tim at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Tim Clark)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 15:07:36 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Mince pies tomorrow
Message-ID: <56139ca6-60e4-3fdf-cfdb-9e1ab7de3406@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

There are still tickets available for the mince pie workshop tomorrow.

Remember you can't pay on the day and need to buy a ticket before 
midnight tonight as we need to buy ingredients.

Any questions please ask

Tim




From nhackett1 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 19:33:31 2016
From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:33:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
Message-ID: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is available, got a
re-up on the coke etc. ;-)
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From nhackett1 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 19:39:32 2016
From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:39:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>

Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true

Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is available, got a
> re-up on the coke etc. ;-)
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 20:17:26 2016
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:17:26 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn8x8AQ_LOtgYUYQG_7ZXKkpFmU4YUEZbOt9cAnw+cHBJA@mail.gmail.com>

1
?125 might be a bit of a stretch ! !!
Unfortunately

On 14 Dec 2016 19:39, "Nathan Hackett" <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_id=
> 1139679145088&rmvSB=true
>
> Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
> customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is available, got a
>> re-up on the coke etc. ;-)
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From nhackett1 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 20:34:50 2016
From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:34:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn8x8AQ_LOtgYUYQG_7ZXKkpFmU4YUEZbOt9cAnw+cHBJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8x8AQ_LOtgYUYQG_7ZXKkpFmU4YUEZbOt9cAnw+cHBJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACs+WPGROYzBZGbOMd_JaT=AaSrhuKAucTkR+1c1zp0qFETx2A@mail.gmail.com>

I could make an offer of ?75 and see what they say? Maybe with cash on
collection and a quick pickup they'll let it go for under ?100. I'll kick
in ?10 myself if it means cold drinks, and there's a fair chunk of profit
just in what I bought today to restock.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> 1
> ?125 might be a bit of a stretch ! !!
> Unfortunately
>
> On 14 Dec 2016 19:39, "Nathan Hackett" <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485
>> ?clk_rvr_id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true
>>
>> Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
>> customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is available, got a
>>> re-up on the coke etc. ;-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 20:40:58 2016
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:40:58 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CACs+WPGROYzBZGbOMd_JaT=AaSrhuKAucTkR+1c1zp0qFETx2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8x8AQ_LOtgYUYQG_7ZXKkpFmU4YUEZbOt9cAnw+cHBJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPGROYzBZGbOMd_JaT=AaSrhuKAucTkR+1c1zp0qFETx2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5851AE5A.70503@aurinia.co.uk>



On 14/12/16 20:34, Nathan Hackett wrote:
> I could make an offer of ?75 and see what they say? Maybe with cash on 
> collection and a quick pickup they'll let it go for under ?100. I'll 
> kick in ?10 myself if it means cold drinks, and there's a fair chunk 
> of profit just in what I bought today to restock.

Look at the feedback! I wonder if the negative there refers to the same 
item!




>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Ceri Clatworthy 
> <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com <mailto:ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     1
>     ?125 might be a bit of a stretch ! !!
>     Unfortunately
>
>     On 14 Dec 2016 19:39, "Nathan Hackett" <nhackett1 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:nhackett1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
>         http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true
>         <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true>
>
>         Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one
>         is, could customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)
>
>         On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Hackett
>         <nhackett1 at gmail.com <mailto:nhackett1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is
>             available, got a re-up on the coke etc. ;-)
>
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>         <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Hackspace mailing list
>     Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>     <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace

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From nhackett1 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 21:08:04 2016
From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 21:08:04 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <5851AE5A.70503@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO=DJn8x8AQ_LOtgYUYQG_7ZXKkpFmU4YUEZbOt9cAnw+cHBJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPGROYzBZGbOMd_JaT=AaSrhuKAucTkR+1c1zp0qFETx2A@mail.gmail.com>
	<5851AE5A.70503@aurinia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CACs+WPEfKUJ9ndDAxArhW42xTY6DwGMos2L-9pckVPk0=h+cYw@mail.gmail.com>

"NOT AS DESCRIBED A WASTED JUNRNEY OF 100 MILES"

Lol well spotted! Now the question is, which is the idiot, buyer or seller?
:-D
I might email him to go take a look, can't hurt.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 14/12/16 20:34, Nathan Hackett wrote:
>
> I could make an offer of ?75 and see what they say? Maybe with cash on
> collection and a quick pickup they'll let it go for under ?100. I'll kick
> in ?10 myself if it means cold drinks, and there's a fair chunk of profit
> just in what I bought today to restock.
>
>
> Look at the feedback! I wonder if the negative there refers to the same
> item!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Ceri Clatworthy <
> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1
>> ?125 might be a bit of a stretch ! !!
>> Unfortunately
>>
>> On 14 Dec 2016 19:39, "Nathan Hackett" <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485
>>> ?clk_rvr_id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true
>>>
>>> Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
>>> customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Hackett < <nhackett1 at gmail.com>
>>> nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is available, got
>>>> a re-up on the coke etc. ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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From swoodrow at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 08:15:01 2016
From: swoodrow at gmail.com (Shaun Woodrow)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:15:01 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CAEt+Lhmxf-0UwcnkboZ=i3Fy0mG6b4CgGUydcA=NE5VqpdLAUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEt+LhnUCn2XSWNcetY+vrqwVJ_Yd7-n-n_r8GzE9Jae4-=Grg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEt+Lhmxf-0UwcnkboZ=i3Fy0mG6b4CgGUydcA=NE5VqpdLAUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEt+LhnJgb=NdpFjHddBvbfv8jEAhbL8ThJ6KvWCDBtxXuzu4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I live in Trebanos so can pick you up on the way. Just let me know.
Shaun


On 14 Dec 2016 7:33 pm, "Nathan Hackett" <nhackett1 at gmail.com> wrote:

Need a lift from Morriston on Monday night if anyone is available, got a
re-up on the coke etc. ;-)

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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Dec 15 08:59:08 2016
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:59:08 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1481792348.6101.3.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 19:39 +0000, Nathan Hackett wrote:
> Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_
> id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true
> 
> Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
> customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)

It says its a freezer not a fridge, and says pretty much nothing else,
like if it works or not, so i am somewhat dubious.

Its more expensive than buying a brand new fridge equivalent to the one
we have.

I was hoping for something more like ?30 down BHF really.




From nhackett1 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 17:31:55 2016
From: nhackett1 at gmail.com (Nathan Hackett)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:31:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <1481792348.6101.3.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1481792348.6101.3.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CACs+WPHp6pqUz0+Qfbb5gZM-WtotHpx04Us6duUXtu_xVgi0rw@mail.gmail.com>

It's gone anyway. :-)

On 15 Dec 2016 8:59 a.m., "Justin Mitchell" <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 19:39 +0000, Nathan Hackett wrote:
> > Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
> > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_
> > id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true
> >
> > Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
> > customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)
>
> It says its a freezer not a fridge, and says pretty much nothing else,
> like if it works or not, so i am somewhat dubious.
>
> Its more expensive than buying a brand new fridge equivalent to the one
> we have.
>
> I was hoping for something more like ?30 down BHF really.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 15 18:47:07 2016
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:47:07 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...
In-Reply-To: <CACs+WPHp6pqUz0+Qfbb5gZM-WtotHpx04Us6duUXtu_xVgi0rw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACs+WPF2igMBnhthLHphLSH0Myfa6CKx2F4v3+aY5+hem4iKBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACs+WPEyF_ACOnb4icbNNGaBuLaHQY-2Efqvda9sP1TQkR0p4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1481792348.6101.3.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>,
	<CACs+WPHp6pqUz0+Qfbb5gZM-WtotHpx04Us6duUXtu_xVgi0rw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB5PR1001MB0933F8D201347C23B5633DEBC69D0@DB5PR1001MB0933.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Unfortunately the one that was available in work for free has gone, the woman I needed to speak to about it was off, when she got back someone had already taken it, I'll keep an eye open.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Nathan Hackett <nhackett1 at gmail.com>
Date:15/12/2016 5:32 PM (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Snack delivery...

It's gone anyway. :-)

On 15 Dec 2016 8:59 a.m., "Justin Mitchell" <justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk<mailto:justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>> wrote:
On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 19:39 +0000, Nathan Hackett wrote:
> Also how about this to replace the broken fridge?
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heinz-fridge-FREEZER-/192029897485?clk_rvr_
> id=1139679145088&rmvSB=true
>
> Would be great if it fits in that gap where the current one is, could
> customise the illuminated sign etc... just an idea. :-)

It says its a freezer not a fridge, and says pretty much nothing else,
like if it works or not, so i am somewhat dubious.

Its more expensive than buying a brand new fridge equivalent to the one
we have.

I was hoping for something more like ?30 down BHF really.


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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Thu Dec 15 18:51:37 2016
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:51:37 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Repair Cafe
Message-ID: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>

Hello,

We have been toying with the idea of setting up a repair cafe in TechHub?s new cafe. We are hopefully starting a project with PiCymru too - to offer a tech lending library of sorts out of the cafe or the Furnace event space.

Any thoughts on this? Would people use it? Would it be seen as unwanted competition for Hackspace? Could Hackspace be involved if it went ahead?

? Paul

Paul Harwood
-----------------------------
+44 (0) 7825 25 43 25
paul at harwood-leon.com
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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Thu Dec 15 18:54:19 2016
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:54:19 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Repair Cafe
In-Reply-To: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
References: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
Message-ID: <BB17A1B4-8E2C-400E-A96E-EA723A0C0327@harwood-leon.com>

some links for those who have not seen the format:

https://repaircafe.org/ <https://repaircafe.org/>

and slightly off topic, but worth a read:

https://www.peoplesdesignlab.org/ <https://www.peoplesdesignlab.org/>
> On 15 Dec 2016, at 18:51, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We have been toying with the idea of setting up a repair cafe in TechHub?s new cafe. We are hopefully starting a project with PiCymru too - to offer a tech lending library of sorts out of the cafe or the Furnace event space.
> 
> Any thoughts on this? Would people use it? Would it be seen as unwanted competition for Hackspace? Could Hackspace be involved if it went ahead?
> 
> ? Paul
> 
> Paul Harwood
> -----------------------------
> +44 (0) 7825 25 43 25
> paul at harwood-leon.com <mailto:paul at harwood-leon.com>
> @paulharwood
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 19:06:02 2016
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:06:02 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Repair Cafe
In-Reply-To: <BB17A1B4-8E2C-400E-A96E-EA723A0C0327@harwood-leon.com>
References: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
	<BB17A1B4-8E2C-400E-A96E-EA723A0C0327@harwood-leon.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEY5oOOEDz5MtCjAXuZXZJmuzUs_hoCS5jjYTYQcjT6+Q0zAQ@mail.gmail.com>

I attend/support  the Llanelli Repair Cafe and found it most interesting.
Its meets once a month in the Library the town centre.  10am to 2pm.

:  )))

Tim_1

On 15 December 2016 at 18:54, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> some links for those who have not seen the format:
>
> https://repaircafe.org/
>
> and slightly off topic, but worth a read:
>
> https://www.peoplesdesignlab.org/
>
> On 15 Dec 2016, at 18:51, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We have been toying with the idea of setting up a repair cafe in TechHub?s
> new cafe. We are hopefully starting a project with PiCymru too - to offer a
> tech lending library of sorts out of the cafe or the Furnace event space.
>
> Any thoughts on this? Would people use it? Would it be seen as unwanted
> competition for Hackspace? Could Hackspace be involved if it went ahead?
>
> ? Paul
>
> Paul Harwood
> -----------------------------
> +44 (0) 7825 25 43 25
> paul at harwood-leon.com
> @paulharwood
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From paul at harwood-leon.com  Thu Dec 15 19:34:28 2016
From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:34:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Repair Cafe
In-Reply-To: <CAAEY5oOOEDz5MtCjAXuZXZJmuzUs_hoCS5jjYTYQcjT6+Q0zAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
	<BB17A1B4-8E2C-400E-A96E-EA723A0C0327@harwood-leon.com>
	<CAAEY5oOOEDz5MtCjAXuZXZJmuzUs_hoCS5jjYTYQcjT6+Q0zAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67141769-679E-48FF-A510-31963AA68E47@harwood-leon.com>

Didn?t even know about that one Tim.

What?s the format there - who attends and who is there to help generally?

? Paul

> On 15 Dec 2016, at 19:06, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I attend/support  the Llanelli Repair Cafe and found it most interesting.  Its meets once a month in the Library the town centre.  10am to 2pm.
> 
> :  )))
> 
> Tim_1
> 
> On 15 December 2016 at 18:54, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com <mailto:paul at harwood-leon.com>> wrote:
> some links for those who have not seen the format:
> 
> https://repaircafe.org/ <https://repaircafe.org/>
> 
> and slightly off topic, but worth a read:
> 
> https://www.peoplesdesignlab.org/ <https://www.peoplesdesignlab.org/>
>> On 15 Dec 2016, at 18:51, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com <mailto:paul at harwood-leon.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> We have been toying with the idea of setting up a repair cafe in TechHub?s new cafe. We are hopefully starting a project with PiCymru too - to offer a tech lending library of sorts out of the cafe or the Furnace event space.
>> 
>> Any thoughts on this? Would people use it? Would it be seen as unwanted competition for Hackspace? Could Hackspace be involved if it went ahead?
>> 
>> ? Paul
>> 
>> Paul Harwood
>> -----------------------------
>> +44 (0) 7825 25 43 25
>> paul at harwood-leon.com <mailto:paul at harwood-leon.com>
>> @paulharwood
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
> 
> 
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Dec 15 19:41:59 2016
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:41:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Repair Cafe
In-Reply-To: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
References: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
Message-ID: <1481830919.6101.12.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

On Thu, 2016-12-15 at 18:51 +0000, Paul Harwood wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We have been toying with the idea of setting up a repair cafe in
> TechHub?s new cafe.?

I believe The Environment Centre in Swansea have run a number of repair
parties in association with The Restart Project in the past, we have
had a few people find us through our contacts there. So it is probably
worth talking to them about their experience.

> We are hopefully starting a project with PiCymru
> too - to offer a tech lending library of sorts out of the cafe or
> the Furnace event space.
We too have a small lending library of tech items, although there has
been little interest in ours we dont know if that is through lack of
awareness or demand. I'm sure we can figure out some sort of reciprocal
deal there on any items of interest we have.

> Any thoughts on this? Would people use it? Would it be seen as
> unwanted competition for Hackspace? Could Hackspace be involved if it
> went ahead?

We always like to try and get involved in related activities around the
city, whilst finding the manpower can be a challenge we are certainly
open to discussing ideas to see what we can work out.




From timmoore47 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 21:05:57 2016
From: timmoore47 at gmail.com (Tim Moore)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:05:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] TechHub Repair Cafe
In-Reply-To: <67141769-679E-48FF-A510-31963AA68E47@harwood-leon.com>
References: <91B14DD8-1774-4FED-92A0-47893E60922F@harwood-leon.com>
	<BB17A1B4-8E2C-400E-A96E-EA723A0C0327@harwood-leon.com>
	<CAAEY5oOOEDz5MtCjAXuZXZJmuzUs_hoCS5jjYTYQcjT6+Q0zAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAAEY5oPMg1p8ks_=3BwPuQwyy_P1awj-Js8uOaV=YfLQsUqn+A@mail.gmail.com>

Its sponsored by Carmarthenshire County council.   I have a contact there.

There is another Repair Cafe near Ammanford but can't remember its name.

On 15 December 2016 at 19:34, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:

> Didn?t even know about that one Tim.
>
> What?s the format there - who attends and who is there to help generally?
>
> ? Paul
>
> On 15 Dec 2016, at 19:06, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I attend/support  the Llanelli Repair Cafe and found it most interesting.
> Its meets once a month in the Library the town centre.  10am to 2pm.
>
> :  )))
>
> Tim_1
>
> On 15 December 2016 at 18:54, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
>
>> some links for those who have not seen the format:
>>
>> https://repaircafe.org/
>>
>> and slightly off topic, but worth a read:
>>
>> https://www.peoplesdesignlab.org/
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2016, at 18:51, Paul Harwood <paul at harwood-leon.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have been toying with the idea of setting up a repair cafe in
>> TechHub?s new cafe. We are hopefully starting a project with PiCymru too -
>> to offer a tech lending library of sorts out of the cafe or the Furnace
>> event space.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this? Would people use it? Would it be seen as unwanted
>> competition for Hackspace? Could Hackspace be involved if it went ahead?
>>
>> ? Paul
>>
>> Paul Harwood
>> -----------------------------
>> +44 (0) 7825 25 43 25
>> paul at harwood-leon.com
>> @paulharwood
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From tandance21 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 20:42:23 2016
From: tandance21 at gmail.com (tandance21)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:42:23 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] ANY TIME-PIECES ( clocks+ watches) REQ.
Message-ID: <585451af.0b561c0a.9ea67.e1f7@mx.google.com>

HELLO ONE & ALL!  IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY UNWANTED CLOCKS OR WATCHES, DIGITAL OR ANALOGUE,
 NON-WORKING OR WORKING TO DONATE - PLEASE LET ME KNOW  AS I INTEND DOING A PROJECT AT SWANSEA HACK SPACE.  
THANKS IN ADVANCE TO YOU WONDERFUL PEOPLE -  JAY?????????????







From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 23 19:04:55 2016
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 19:04:55 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUPERCARVER K2 1000mW High Speed Miniature
 Laser Engraving Machine Print Engraver Carver Automatic DIY Carving
 Off-line Operation with Protective Glasses | Tomtop.com
Message-ID: <DB5PR1001MB0933940534C64E18CF34524DC6950@DB5PR1001MB0933.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Can thia really be a 1000mW engraver for this price?


http://m.tomtop.com/others-216/p-e2066.html?aid=fbE2066&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=TT_FB_E2066_JXX



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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Dec 24 00:02:50 2016
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:02:50 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUPERCARVER K2 1000mW High Speed Miniature
 Laser Engraving Machine Print Engraver Carver Automatic DIY Carving
 Off-line Operation with Protective Glasses | Tomtop.com
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On Fri, 2016-12-23 at 19:04 +0000, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Can thia really be a 1000mW engraver for this price?
> 
> 
> http://m.tomtop.com/others-216/p-e2066.html?aid=fbE2066&utm_source=fa
> cebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=TT_FB_E2066_JXX
> 

so a 1W 405nm blue laser diode, looks to be about ?20 or so for the
laser on its own.

aliexpress has similar engraver machines starting at ?65 delivered.

it looks to be a similar construction to cheap 3d printers, but doesnt
need the z-axis movement or heated bed, so yeah, price is about right.




From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Dec 24 00:06:32 2016
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:06:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] SUPERCARVER K2 1000mW High Speed Miniature
 Laser Engraving Machine Print Engraver Carver Automatic DIY Carving
 Off-line Operation with Protective Glasses | Tomtop.com
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR1001MB0933940534C64E18CF34524DC6950@DB5PR1001MB0933.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <DB5PR1001MB0933940534C64E18CF34524DC6950@DB5PR1001MB0933.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <1482537992.3999.7.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

On Fri, 2016-12-23 at 19:04 +0000, David Davies-Day wrote:
> Can thia really be a 1000mW engraver for this price?
> 
> 
> http://m.tomtop.com/others-216/p-e2066.html?aid=fbE2066&utm_source=fa
> cebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=TT_FB_E2066_JXX
> 

so a 1W 405nm blue laser diode, looks to be about ?20 or so for the
laser on its own.

aliexpress has similar engraver machines starting at ?65 delivered.

it looks to be a similar construction to cheap 3d printers, but doesnt
need the z-axis movement or heated bed, so yeah, price is about right.

Of course not having any kind of an enclosure it is best not used in
the same room as anyone or anything you care about.



From newsletter at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Sat Dec 24 17:10:09 2016
From: newsletter at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Newsletter)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:10:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Xmas 2016
Message-ID: <1482599409.22849.3.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

View this online at:?http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Newsletter/2016Dec

Christmas / December 2016

Happy Holidays
==============
Due to the holiday season and many people being busy partying,
feasting, or off visiting we will not be holding any of our regular
events in the week between christmas and new year. That is no open
night on Monday the 26th, and no crafternoon on Wednesday the 28th. As
always the space is still available to keyholders during this period,
there just wont be any organised meetings.

Normal service will resume with the first open/social of the New Year
being Monday the 2nd of January.

Hack-the-Space day
==================
Sat 7th January 2017 - 12pm onwards
The first of a new quarterly event where we take a Saturday afternoon
out to have a general tidy up, sort through the accumulated junk at the
space, make improvements, and reorganise stuff. We also take this
opportunity to examine current stock and equipment levels, make
purchasing plans, and discuss ideas for projects and ways to
improvement the space for everyone. This is a great way to get involved
and influence what the space has to offer, it costs nothing, and lunch
will be provided.

Induction Day
=============
Sat 28th January : 12 - 4pm : ?20 per person, Members Only.
This is a chance to be inducted for all of our major machinery in one
go, Upon successful completion you will qualify to use these machines
unattended. This is not a thorough safety training, if you have any
doubts on how to safely use a piece of machinery we suggest you seek
out a professional training course. These sessions teach you how our
machines are setup, any quirks and etiquette that goes with them, and
the basics of how to use them without breaking anything.

Tools/Equipment Covered:

????3D Printer
????Laser Cutter
????Vinyl Cutter
????CNC Mill
????Bandsaw
????Pillar Drill?

Pick'n'Mix store
================
To further expand upon the concept of the Pick'n'Mix starter kits we
have now created and stocked the pick'n'mix store. It contains a range
of individually priced components and modules that are great for
learners and tinkerers alike, take a look and it might inspire your
next project!

Some of the items available include: NodeMCU / ESP8266 dev boards, RFID
readers, colour sensors, MP3 player modules, lasers, servos, and much
more.

Crafternoons
============
The 2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month is our crafternoons sessions,
where those looking to unplug a little can try their hand at crochet,
knitting, sewing, and other hand made handicrafts. The sessions are
free and open to anyone, with tea and cake on tap. Starts at 7pm.
Help Wanted

We Need You!
============
We need volunteers to help spread the word and evangelise about the
hackspace, whether that is posting to social media, or chasing the
freebie listings to make sure we get a mention, if you think you can
help please let us know.

If you have anything you would like to see mentioned in a future
newsletter please email us, newsletter (at) our usual domain name.