From matt at daubers.co.uk  Wed Jan  3 15:33:34 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 15:33:34 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm what
you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop! I'm not
a keyholder, so if a keyholder is coming that would be universally
wonderful :)

Hope you're all having a good, positive start to the year!

On 28 December 2017 at 21:07, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:

> I forgot to set a close date on this, so I'll let it run till tomorrow
> evening and then close it down :)
>
> On 18 December 2017 at 21:09, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> So here are some dates/times! The times are a bit arbitrary, I'm happy to
>> jigger those around some. Obviously we'd have more time on a saturday than
>> a weekday, but I'm happy to work to others.
>>
>> https://doodle.com/poll/8s52iwinzepqpdmd
>>
>> Just hit the poll and select the ones you can do!
>>
>> - Matt
>>
>> On 17 December 2017 at 21:42, Elizabeth Diffley <
>> elizabethdiffley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Me too!
>>> Again...COMPLETE beginners!
>>> On 17 Dec 2017 21:29, "Sophia Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested too if you are happy with COMPLETE beginners :)
>>>>
>>>> 2017-12-17 18:49 GMT+00:00 Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>:
>>>>
>>>>> Crikey! Ok, so there?s a few people interested! I?ll pop up some
>>>>> potential days tomorrow evening, and we?ll figure out what works best!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
>>>>> *Sent: *17 December 2017 18:47
>>>>> *To: *hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I too am very interested in this being done. Sounds great. When will
>>>>> these be. I want to go to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17/12/17 17:55, Joseph Bhart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely interested! Sounds like a great idea!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 December 2017 at 16:46, Ceri Clatworthy <
>>>>> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Would like that ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 12:11, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Hello Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm trying to sort out a few things for next year, would anyone
>>>>> be interested in a few "Python for Beginners" type workshops? We can go
>>>>> through some basics up to "Build a twitter bot" type things if there's any
>>>>> interest?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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>>>
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From sophia.komninou at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 15:38:53 2018
From: sophia.komninou at gmail.com (Sophia Komninou)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 15:38:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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I will be coming and I have a key.
:)

On 3 Jan 2018 17:34, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:

> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
> what you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop! I'm
> not a keyholder, so if a keyholder is coming that would be universally
> wonderful :)
>
> Hope you're all having a good, positive start to the year!
>
> On 28 December 2017 at 21:07, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to set a close date on this, so I'll let it run till tomorrow
>> evening and then close it down :)
>>
>> On 18 December 2017 at 21:09, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> So here are some dates/times! The times are a bit arbitrary, I'm happy
>>> to jigger those around some. Obviously we'd have more time on a saturday
>>> than a weekday, but I'm happy to work to others.
>>>
>>> https://doodle.com/poll/8s52iwinzepqpdmd
>>>
>>> Just hit the poll and select the ones you can do!
>>>
>>> - Matt
>>>
>>> On 17 December 2017 at 21:42, Elizabeth Diffley <
>>> elizabethdiffley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Me too!
>>>> Again...COMPLETE beginners!
>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 21:29, "Sophia Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am interested too if you are happy with COMPLETE beginners :)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-17 18:49 GMT+00:00 Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Crikey! Ok, so there?s a few people interested! I?ll pop up some
>>>>>> potential days tomorrow evening, and we?ll figure out what works best!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
>>>>>> *Sent: *17 December 2017 18:47
>>>>>> *To: *hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I too am very interested in this being done. Sounds great. When will
>>>>>> these be. I want to go to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/12/17 17:55, Joseph Bhart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely interested! Sounds like a great idea!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 December 2017 at 16:46, Ceri Clatworthy <
>>>>>> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would like that ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 12:11, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Hello Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I'm trying to sort out a few things for next year, would anyone
>>>>>> be interested in a few "Python for Beginners" type workshops? We can go
>>>>>> through some basics up to "Build a twitter bot" type things if there's any
>>>>>> interest?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 22:05:18 2018
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:05:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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Are there any spaces left ????

Hope to come along too .

Cheers
Ceri

On 3 Jan 2018 15:39, "Sophia Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be coming and I have a key.
> :)
>
> On 3 Jan 2018 17:34, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
>> what you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop! I'm
>> not a keyholder, so if a keyholder is coming that would be universally
>> wonderful :)
>>
>> Hope you're all having a good, positive start to the year!
>>
>> On 28 December 2017 at 21:07, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot to set a close date on this, so I'll let it run till tomorrow
>>> evening and then close it down :)
>>>
>>> On 18 December 2017 at 21:09, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> So here are some dates/times! The times are a bit arbitrary, I'm happy
>>>> to jigger those around some. Obviously we'd have more time on a saturday
>>>> than a weekday, but I'm happy to work to others.
>>>>
>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/8s52iwinzepqpdmd
>>>>
>>>> Just hit the poll and select the ones you can do!
>>>>
>>>> - Matt
>>>>
>>>> On 17 December 2017 at 21:42, Elizabeth Diffley <
>>>> elizabethdiffley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Me too!
>>>>> Again...COMPLETE beginners!
>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 21:29, "Sophia Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested too if you are happy with COMPLETE beginners :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-12-17 18:49 GMT+00:00 Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crikey! Ok, so there?s a few people interested! I?ll pop up some
>>>>>>> potential days tomorrow evening, and we?ll figure out what works best!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
>>>>>>> *Sent: *17 December 2017 18:47
>>>>>>> *To: *hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I too am very interested in this being done. Sounds great. When will
>>>>>>> these be. I want to go to them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17/12/17 17:55, Joseph Bhart wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definitely interested! Sounds like a great idea!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 December 2017 at 16:46, Ceri Clatworthy <
>>>>>>> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would like that ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 12:11, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Hello Hello!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I'm trying to sort out a few things for next year, would
>>>>>>> anyone be interested in a few "Python for Beginners" type workshops? We can
>>>>>>> go through some basics up to "Build a twitter bot" type things if there's
>>>>>>> any interest?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 11:10:28 2018
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:10:28 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Robotics and Motors
Message-ID: <5A4F5D24.1010505@aurinia.co.uk>

Can anyone offer me sources of guidance on robotics and motors?

I am investigating building several mobile robots that move on their own 
wheels independently.

One might be rather heavy and need to be able to carry a load of a few 
kilos a few metres including up an incline.

Where do I look to find out about such things as how powerful a motor 
needs to be, torque etc?

Are there any decent on-line fora, which are actually active and can be 
used?

Neil





From andy at andrewprice.me.uk  Fri Jan  5 11:31:59 2018
From: andy at andrewprice.me.uk (Andrew Price)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:31:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm what
> you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!

Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting Python, 
any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on 
Windows) before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who 
need help with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time 
might be swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. 
Depends on how much you intend to cover I suppose.

I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play 
teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)

Andy



From matt at daubers.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 13:03:40 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:03:40 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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Yup! Come along!

On 4 January 2018 at 22:05, Ceri Clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Are there any spaces left ????
>
> Hope to come along too .
>
> Cheers
> Ceri
>
> On 3 Jan 2018 15:39, "Sophia Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I will be coming and I have a key.
>> :)
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2018 17:34, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
>>> what you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop! I'm
>>> not a keyholder, so if a keyholder is coming that would be universally
>>> wonderful :)
>>>
>>> Hope you're all having a good, positive start to the year!
>>>
>>> On 28 December 2017 at 21:07, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I forgot to set a close date on this, so I'll let it run till tomorrow
>>>> evening and then close it down :)
>>>>
>>>> On 18 December 2017 at 21:09, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> So here are some dates/times! The times are a bit arbitrary, I'm happy
>>>>> to jigger those around some. Obviously we'd have more time on a saturday
>>>>> than a weekday, but I'm happy to work to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/8s52iwinzepqpdmd
>>>>>
>>>>> Just hit the poll and select the ones you can do!
>>>>>
>>>>> - Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 December 2017 at 21:42, Elizabeth Diffley <
>>>>> elizabethdiffley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Me too!
>>>>>> Again...COMPLETE beginners!
>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 21:29, "Sophia Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am interested too if you are happy with COMPLETE beginners :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-12-17 18:49 GMT+00:00 Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Crikey! Ok, so there?s a few people interested! I?ll pop up some
>>>>>>>> potential days tomorrow evening, and we?ll figure out what works best!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From: *Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *17 December 2017 18:47
>>>>>>>> *To: *hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I too am very interested in this being done. Sounds great. When
>>>>>>>> will these be. I want to go to them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/12/17 17:55, Joseph Bhart wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definitely interested! Sounds like a great idea!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17 December 2017 at 16:46, Ceri Clatworthy <
>>>>>>>> ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would like that ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017 12:11, "Matthew Daubney" <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Hello Hello!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I'm trying to sort out a few things for next year, would
>>>>>>>> anyone be interested in a few "Python for Beginners" type workshops? We can
>>>>>>>> go through some basics up to "Build a twitter bot" type things if there's
>>>>>>>> any interest?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>
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From matt at daubers.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 13:05:31 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:05:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
In-Reply-To: <a952298f-99c3-98bd-7b4e-d6c256a75565@andrewprice.me.uk>
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Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing the whole
thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop as a server, part
of me thinks we should just dive in inside an interpreter..... I'll have a
think and put something up this evening with instructions :)

On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price <andy at andrewprice.me.uk> wrote:

> On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>
>> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
>> what
>> you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!
>>
>
> Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting Python,
> any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on Windows)
> before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who need help
> with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might be
> swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. Depends on
> how much you intend to cover I suppose.
>
> I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play
> teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)
>
> Andy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From alexmduffield at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 18:01:18 2018
From: alexmduffield at gmail.com (Alex Duffield)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 18:01:18 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Robotics and Motors
In-Reply-To: <5A4F5D24.1010505@aurinia.co.uk>
References: <5A4F5D24.1010505@aurinia.co.uk>
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Maths, what you need to determine is the force needed at that wheel radius

On 5 Jan 2018 11:11 a.m., "Neil Jones" <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

> Can anyone offer me sources of guidance on robotics and motors?
>
> I am investigating building several mobile robots that move on their own
> wheels independently.
>
> One might be rather heavy and need to be able to carry a load of a few
> kilos a few metres including up an incline.
>
> Where do I look to find out about such things as how powerful a motor
> needs to be, torque etc?
>
> Are there any decent on-line fora, which are actually active and can be
> used?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From matt at daubers.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 20:19:17 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 20:19:17 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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Ok, so pre-requisites will be:

1. Install Python 3 (https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-364/).
I'd prefer you have python 3 as everyone is now dropping support for Python
2
2. Have an editor installed.

If you're on Windows, ensure your path is setup correctly after installing
python by opening a terminal window and typing "python". If you get command
not found or similar, we'll need to fix it. Do the same with "pip".

2 is a contentious subject. You can use whichever editor you wish, but if
you're new to all of this I'd recommend PyCharm (
https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/) The community edition is free
(As in beer) and its relatively feature filled. I used it for many years,
but have recently gone back to ViM because I hate myself, or something. You
can, of course, use emacs (or as someone I once worked with did, emacs with
the ViM keybindings) Others include Sublime Text, Visual Studio Code and
Atom.

If you're unsure or have any questions, I'll be at the space the next two
mondays, or just ask here and I'll answer as best I can. I'll go over pip
(the python package manager) and virtualenvs on the day as they're not
entirely necessary, but make your life 1000% easier :)


On 5 January 2018 at 13:05, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:

> Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing the whole
> thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop as a server, part
> of me thinks we should just dive in inside an interpreter..... I'll have a
> think and put something up this evening with instructions :)
>
> On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price <andy at andrewprice.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>
>>> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
>>> what
>>> you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!
>>>
>>
>> Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting Python,
>> any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on Windows)
>> before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who need help
>> with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might be
>> swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. Depends on
>> how much you intend to cover I suppose.
>>
>> I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play
>> teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 22:42:45 2018
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:42:45 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Robotics and Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAC2D51ES61zzn2VXDiOVgwzkU+MHwD9EXOGueAe5HXM3jXD5tg@mail.gmail.com>
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Techno bots on line.  Com
Sparkfun (usa)
Cool components. Co.uk
Ada fruit (usa)

And banggood.com .... China

Electronic parts and mechanical from all above.

If you serch sparkfun. And adafruit they both have tutorials etc.

Start with sparkfun !!

On 5 Jan 2018 18:01, "Alex Duffield" <alexmduffield at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maths, what you need to determine is the force needed at that wheel radius
>
> On 5 Jan 2018 11:11 a.m., "Neil Jones" <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone offer me sources of guidance on robotics and motors?
>>
>> I am investigating building several mobile robots that move on their own
>> wheels independently.
>>
>> One might be rather heavy and need to be able to carry a load of a few
>> kilos a few metres including up an incline.
>>
>> Where do I look to find out about such things as how powerful a motor
>> needs to be, torque etc?
>>
>> Are there any decent on-line fora, which are actually active and can be
>> used?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From alexmduffield at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 22:43:59 2018
From: alexmduffield at gmail.com (Alex Duffield)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:43:59 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
In-Reply-To: <CAC2D51E6vXJHa97=fgTF2wCjN4jp3STUQ_SkphLgjhjz8FYtzg@mail.gmail.com>
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I have and will soon be bringing up a 1940s Triplett 1632 signal generator,
it's got all the valves don't know if they work (if I can't get it working
I plan to convert to steampunk pc case with the valves glowing ect ect)I
have the circuit diagram but alot of the solders are shot, it'll need new
capacitors and possibly resistors but the diagram has it all (yay) I want
to get it running but have no idea what I'd use it for lol I just love
valves lol, anyone might be able to help me out getting running
See attached imgur
Triplett 1632 signal generator https://imgur.com/gallery/GsJdz
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From andyskips at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 23:06:00 2018
From: andyskips at hotmail.co.uk (Andy Skippins)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 23:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
In-Reply-To: <CAC2D51E7s5=zFHpANS8=vCdcjw6VDdbdGvoUe2iXREgK4gqoSg@mail.gmail.com>
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This looks like a very interesting project, and I'd love to help you get it working! ?
Andy

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On 5 Jan 2018, at 10:44 pm, Alex Duffield <alexmduffield at gmail.com<mailto:alexmduffield at gmail.com>> wrote:
I have and will soon be bringing up a 1940s Triplett 1632 signal generator, it's got all the valves don't know if they work (if I can't get it working I plan to convert to steampunk pc case with the valves glowing ect ect)I have the circuit diagram but alot of the solders are shot, it'll need new capacitors and possibly resistors but the diagram has it all (yay) I want to get it running but have no idea what I'd use it for lol I just love valves lol, anyone might be able to help me out getting running
See attached imgur
Triplett 1632 signal generator https://imgur.com/gallery/GsJdz


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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:33:52 2018
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 10:33:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
In-Reply-To: <CAC2D51E7s5=zFHpANS8=vCdcjw6VDdbdGvoUe2iXREgK4gqoSg@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Alex,

Very interested to see the old Triplett generator. Looking at
the front panel, it covers from about 100 kHz to 120 MHz (whew!).

A generator like this would most likely be used by an old-time
radio and TV repair man, as it covers medium, long and the
old VHF television frequencies. Or it could have been a piece of
test equipment in a college lab.

Looking at the photos, I think that it has been exposed to rain
for a long period. The valves should be OK, as they are protected
by an impermeable envelope. Some of the other parts are very
dodgy, e.g. old electrolytic capacitors, they can just blow when
volts are applied. Also the transformers may need drying out, as
water may have penetrated the windings.

Resistors and capacitors can be replaced, the valves are probably
OK, and anyway we have a whole load of contemporary valves
hidden away.

Looking at the circuit, the big transformer is connected to a full-wave
rectifier, then the smoothed DC is regulated by a VR150-30, which is
a rare valve these days. It is a neon lamp, behaves like a high voltage
zener diode. There is a single valve in the oscillator, all the rest are
amplifiers and something to do with the modulation.

An interesting feature is the CW Heterodyne mode, In the days before
oscilloscopes and frequency meters, you could measure an unknown
frequency by "beating" the oscillator with the unknown, and listen
(probably on headphones) for the descending beat frequency as you
approach the frequency.

Good luck with this project, it is a lot of work in prospect.

Timothy Davies

________________________________
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Alex Duffield [alexmduffield at gmail.com]
Sent: 05 January 2018 22:43
To: Swansea Hackspace
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s

I have and will soon be bringing up a 1940s Triplett 1632 signal generator, it's got all the valves don't know if they work (if I can't get it working I plan to convert to steampunk pc case with the valves glowing ect ect)I have the circuit diagram but alot of the solders are shot, it'll need new capacitors and possibly resistors but the diagram has it all (yay) I want to get it running but have no idea what I'd use it for lol I just love valves lol, anyone might be able to help me out getting running
See attached imgur
Triplett 1632 signal generator https://imgur.com/gallery/GsJdz

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From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com  Sat Jan  6 19:03:53 2018
From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 19:03:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
In-Reply-To: <1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA089A1@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <CAC2D51GtDsYzDPjPb0f6jLKQvV7NiBvva6DqnAeSMJw++cN1qA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC2D51EeJmCN6LvQta_TQ8ZTJv5iSWt-S1x0+=B0dvzv5zYVYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC2D51EdL5SqAs-1XsH4yXMOtntLXX6S7RXJbZ5g0rUX8j8USg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC2D51HWxC_bsnhyhz=mfPF-gE4qiE8HDzB5Ta5UBpS=ZaY5ag@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC2D51E6vXJHa97=fgTF2wCjN4jp3STUQ_SkphLgjhjz8FYtzg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC2D51E7s5=zFHpANS8=vCdcjw6VDdbdGvoUe2iXREgK4gqoSg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA089A1@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAO=DJn-_Y+A_M_4Gp166CEt7cdJR8sw-W5GZYYRuc0GxfmdHRg@mail.gmail.com>

that's some old and crusty  coating on all the parts.....

would not trust the insulation on the transformer ....

50 to 80 volts ...

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Davies T. <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Alex,
>
> Very interested to see the old Triplett generator. Looking at
> the front panel, it covers from about 100 kHz to 120 MHz (whew!).
>
> A generator like this would most likely be used by an old-time
> radio and TV repair man, as it covers medium, long and the
> old VHF television frequencies. Or it could have been a piece of
> test equipment in a college lab.
>
> Looking at the photos, I think that it has been exposed to rain
> for a long period. The valves should be OK, as they are protected
> by an impermeable envelope. Some of the other parts are very
> dodgy, e.g. old electrolytic capacitors, they can just blow when
> volts are applied. Also the transformers may need drying out, as
> water may have penetrated the windings.
>
> Resistors and capacitors can be replaced, the valves are probably
> OK, and anyway we have a whole load of contemporary valves
> hidden away.
>
> Looking at the circuit, the big transformer is connected to a full-wave
> rectifier, then the smoothed DC is regulated by a VR150-30, which is
> a rare valve these days. It is a neon lamp, behaves like a high voltage
> zener diode. There is a single valve in the oscillator, all the rest are
> amplifiers and something to do with the modulation.
>
> An interesting feature is the CW Heterodyne mode, In the days before
> oscilloscopes and frequency meters, you could measure an unknown
> frequency by "beating" the oscillator with the unknown, and listen
> (probably on headphones) for the descending beat frequency as you
> approach the frequency.
>
> Good luck with this project, it is a lot of work in prospect.
>
> Timothy Davies
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [
> hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Alex Duffield [
> alexmduffield at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 05 January 2018 22:43
> *To:* Swansea Hackspace
> *Subject:* [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
>
> I have and will soon be bringing up a 1940s Triplett 1632 signal
> generator, it's got all the valves don't know if they work (if I can't get
> it working I plan to convert to steampunk pc case with the valves glowing
> ect ect)I have the circuit diagram but alot of the solders are shot, it'll
> need new capacitors and possibly resistors but the diagram has it all (yay)
> I want to get it running but have no idea what I'd use it for lol I just
> love valves lol, anyone might be able to help me out getting running
> See attached imgur
> Triplett 1632 signal generator https://imgur.com/gallery/GsJdz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From alexmduffield at gmail.com  Sat Jan  6 19:34:57 2018
From: alexmduffield at gmail.com (Alex Duffield)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 19:34:57 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
In-Reply-To: <CAO=DJn-_Y+A_M_4Gp166CEt7cdJR8sw-W5GZYYRuc0GxfmdHRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC2D51GtDsYzDPjPb0f6jLKQvV7NiBvva6DqnAeSMJw++cN1qA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC2D51EeJmCN6LvQta_TQ8ZTJv5iSWt-S1x0+=B0dvzv5zYVYA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA089A1@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
	<CAO=DJn-_Y+A_M_4Gp166CEt7cdJR8sw-W5GZYYRuc0GxfmdHRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC2D51H9Qy=vz1qw71hNzAfxiCN3AORxAb8ZeQZF=aF+2xHzYQ@mail.gmail.com>

I belive it sat in standing water for a while judging by the tide line lol,
revealing the lot would be a must and the resistors are probably shot, the
transformers are above the tide line mostly, my hope is the valves are okay
and other than that get it running or strip it out as a pc case lol

On 6 Jan 2018 7:04 p.m., "Ceri Clatworthy" <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> that's some old and crusty  coating on all the parts.....
>
> would not trust the insulation on the transformer ....
>
> 50 to 80 volts ...
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Davies T. <t.davies at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Alex,
>>
>> Very interested to see the old Triplett generator. Looking at
>> the front panel, it covers from about 100 kHz to 120 MHz (whew!).
>>
>> A generator like this would most likely be used by an old-time
>> radio and TV repair man, as it covers medium, long and the
>> old VHF television frequencies. Or it could have been a piece of
>> test equipment in a college lab.
>>
>> Looking at the photos, I think that it has been exposed to rain
>> for a long period. The valves should be OK, as they are protected
>> by an impermeable envelope. Some of the other parts are very
>> dodgy, e.g. old electrolytic capacitors, they can just blow when
>> volts are applied. Also the transformers may need drying out, as
>> water may have penetrated the windings.
>>
>> Resistors and capacitors can be replaced, the valves are probably
>> OK, and anyway we have a whole load of contemporary valves
>> hidden away.
>>
>> Looking at the circuit, the big transformer is connected to a full-wave
>> rectifier, then the smoothed DC is regulated by a VR150-30, which is
>> a rare valve these days. It is a neon lamp, behaves like a high voltage
>> zener diode. There is a single valve in the oscillator, all the rest are
>> amplifiers and something to do with the modulation.
>>
>> An interesting feature is the CW Heterodyne mode, In the days before
>> oscilloscopes and frequency meters, you could measure an unknown
>> frequency by "beating" the oscillator with the unknown, and listen
>> (probably on headphones) for the descending beat frequency as you
>> approach the frequency.
>>
>> Good luck with this project, it is a lot of work in prospect.
>>
>> Timothy Davies
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [
>> hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] on behalf of Alex Duffield [
>> alexmduffield at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 05 January 2018 22:43
>> *To:* Swansea Hackspace
>> *Subject:* [Swansea Hackspace] Valve radio signal generator, 1940s
>>
>> I have and will soon be bringing up a 1940s Triplett 1632 signal
>> generator, it's got all the valves don't know if they work (if I can't get
>> it working I plan to convert to steampunk pc case with the valves glowing
>> ect ect)I have the circuit diagram but alot of the solders are shot, it'll
>> need new capacitors and possibly resistors but the diagram has it all (yay)
>> I want to get it running but have no idea what I'd use it for lol I just
>> love valves lol, anyone might be able to help me out getting running
>> See attached imgur
>> Triplett 1632 signal generator https://imgur.com/gallery/GsJdz
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
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From gwiondavies at live.co.uk  Mon Jan  8 16:11:21 2018
From: gwiondavies at live.co.uk (Gwion Davies)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:11:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermal paste.
Message-ID: <DB6PR0901MB120747CC629CCBBD3960B6DC8A130@DB6PR0901MB1207.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

If anyone going to the Hackspace tonight, has some thermal paste to spare. Could you bring it with you tonight please, so I can finish putting the computer, Justin donated, back together.

Thanks,
Gwion. 

Sent from my iPhone


From jjsbhart at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 16:13:31 2018
From: jjsbhart at gmail.com (Joseph Bhart)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:13:31 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thermal paste.
In-Reply-To: <DB6PR0901MB120747CC629CCBBD3960B6DC8A130@DB6PR0901MB1207.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB6PR0901MB120747CC629CCBBD3960B6DC8A130@DB6PR0901MB1207.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAH0QmCEddf6KY+0vb37vcjeFGLaD10dZQqdB389RYzfnmPyF_A@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, have some I can bring. Can't remember if it's silver or ceramic, but
it shouldn't matter just for a PC.

Joe Xx

On 8 January 2018 at 16:11, Gwion Davies <gwiondavies at live.co.uk> wrote:

> If anyone going to the Hackspace tonight, has some thermal paste to spare.
> Could you bring it with you tonight please, so I can finish putting the
> computer, Justin donated, back together.
>
> Thanks,
> Gwion.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From t.davies at swansea.ac.uk  Mon Jan 15 10:22:21 2018
From: t.davies at swansea.ac.uk (Davies T.)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 10:22:21 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] IET lecture
In-Reply-To: <1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA08AC1@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
References: <1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA08A94@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>,
	<1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA08AC1@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1AB386B1C8686C49B24CEA45D647DAABA091C3@ISS-MBX04.tawe.swan.ac.uk>


Dear Hackers,

There will be a joint lecture of the IET West Wales and the
Swansea Amateur Radio Society at 7 pm on Thursday, 18th
January (refreshments from 6:30 pm). The venue will be the
Faraday Lecture Theatre, Faraday Building, Singleton Campus.

The subject of the lecture is Ground Penetrating Radar, which
is used extensively for non-invasive investigation of buildings
where conventional archaeological techniques are ruled out.

The speaker is Erica Carrick Utsi, who is well known in the field
of ground penetrating radar, and recently featured in a television
programme about Shakespeare's Tomb.

This lecture is organised jointly by the Institution of Engineering
Technologies and Swansea Amateur Radio Society. You will find
more details in the attached flyer. Registration is not essential.

I look forward to seeing you on the 18th.

Dr. Timothy Davies


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From matt at daubers.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 09:41:00 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:41:00 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Nintendo Labo (or introducing kids to making
	stuff)
Message-ID: <CALc5WvN7G2zYrt1KUk8gyNH-thjztxrH3uMJkQ96OVyr=YU__Q@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if anyone saw https://labo.nintendo.com/ last night/this
morning. It's a new game(s) that Nintendo are bringing out where you
construct some things out of cardboard to act as controllers in the game.
The ones they've shwn are a fishing rod, a car steering type thing and a
backpack with cuffs that attach to your wrists so you can control a robot
in the game.

It looks a pretty good way of getting kids into building stuff, and adults
too! I know there's complications about running workshops with children
involved, but there might be an opportunity for us to springboard off this
by running "Help with your Labo" type workshops?

I dunno, I just thought it would be good to get into the collective
conciousness!

-Matt Daubney
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From tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Thu Jan 18 12:33:03 2018
From: tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:33:03 -0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] AGM 2018-02-08
Message-ID: <002601d39058$7edcfcd0$7c96f670$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

Notice of Meeting: 2018 Annual General Meeting

7pm Thursday 8th February 2018
Swansea Hackspace, 11 Wind Street, Swansea, SA1 1DP

http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/AGM2018

The AGM is an opportunity for all members to discuss and vote on topics that affect the group as a whole, to hear how we have been performing as a company and to vote for the directors for the coming year.

If you have any items you would like on the agenda please send them to directors at swansea.hackspace.org.uk before 23:59 on the 31st January.

There are spaces available for additional directors to be elected. 
Anyone interested needs to complete the form available at the above web address and handing it to an existing director no later than 23:59 on the 24th January.

Members unable to attend may appoint a proxy to vote on their behalf, in accordance with article 18 of our Articles of Association.

To nominate a proxy, please send a notice which:

* States the name and address of the member appointing the proxy
* Identifies the person appointed to be that member?s proxy
* States that it is valid for this AGM
* and is signed by or on behalf of the member appointing the proxy

Notices must be received before the start of the meeting. Notices may optionally contain instructions detailing how the proxy should vote.

Notices will be accepted as signed paperwork handed to a director or as S/MIME signed email sent to directors at swansea.hackspace.org.uk

If you have any questions, please ask a director or contact us on the email address above.

Regards,

Thomas Lake
Director




From andy at andrewprice.me.uk  Thu Jan 18 13:18:11 2018
From: andy at andrewprice.me.uk (Andrew Price)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:18:11 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] AGM 2018-02-08
In-Reply-To: <002601d39058$7edcfcd0$7c96f670$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
References: <002601d39058$7edcfcd0$7c96f670$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <eb1a033d-6612-6d81-f896-41362172314a@andrewprice.me.uk>

On 18/01/18 12:33, tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk wrote:
> Notice of Meeting: 2018 Annual General Meeting
> 
> 7pm Thursday 8th February 2018
> Swansea Hackspace, 11 Wind Street, Swansea, SA1 1DP
> 
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/AGM2018

Will there be cake?

Andy



From tswsl1989 at sucs.org  Thu Jan 18 13:24:13 2018
From: tswsl1989 at sucs.org (tswsl1989 at sucs.org)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:24:13 -0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] AGM 2018-02-08
In-Reply-To: <eb1a033d-6612-6d81-f896-41362172314a@andrewprice.me.uk>
References: <002601d39058$7edcfcd0$7c96f670$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
	<eb1a033d-6612-6d81-f896-41362172314a@andrewprice.me.uk>
Message-ID: <002d01d3905f$a52cb5e0$ef8621a0$@sucs.org>

Hopefully, yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk [mailto:hackspace-bounces at swansea.hackspace.org.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Price
Sent: 18 January 2018 13:18
To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] AGM 2018-02-08

On 18/01/18 12:33, tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk wrote:
> Notice of Meeting: 2018 Annual General Meeting
> 
> 7pm Thursday 8th February 2018
> Swansea Hackspace, 11 Wind Street, Swansea, SA1 1DP
> 
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/AGM2018

Will there be cake?

Andy

_______________________________________________
Hackspace mailing list
Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace




From tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Fri Jan 19 23:50:45 2018
From: tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:50:45 -0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter - out of use
Message-ID: <003801d39180$53437e90$f9ca7bb0$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

The laser cutter tube and PSU have now been replaced.
The cutter has not yet been aligned and there are still a few tasks that Tim and I need to complete before the laser cutter can be used again.
We hope to complete them either Sunday or during the open evening on Monday.

Until then, the cutter is not to be used. There is a large and very obvious sign on the laser cutter to this effect.

-  Tom 




From neil at aurinia.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 14:04:53 2018
From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:04:53 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
In-Reply-To: <CALc5WvO5eKk=Gys=pUsxtLqJRFjFiFuGpiy+hwSeW16qYHPN5w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<a952298f-99c3-98bd-7b4e-d6c256a75565@andrewprice.me.uk>
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Message-ID: <5A649E05.3080503@aurinia.co.uk>

Can I just warn people. I recently upgraded a machine to python 3 and it 
took over an hour.
So don't just assume you can spend a few minutes before you come on 
installing the software.
You don't have to sit around watching the machine but the process is 
prolonged.

Neil

On 05/01/18 20:19, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> Ok, so pre-requisites will be:
>
> 1. Install Python 3 
> (https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-364/). I'd prefer you 
> have python 3 as everyone is now dropping support for Python 2
> 2. Have an editor installed.
>
> If you're on Windows, ensure your path is setup correctly after 
> installing python by opening a terminal window and typing "python". If 
> you get command not found or similar, we'll need to fix it. Do the 
> same with "pip".
>
> 2 is a contentious subject. You can use whichever editor you wish, but 
> if you're new to all of this I'd recommend PyCharm 
> (https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/) The community edition is 
> free (As in beer) and its relatively feature filled. I used it for 
> many years, but have recently gone back to ViM because I hate myself, 
> or something. You can, of course, use emacs (or as someone I once 
> worked with did, emacs with the ViM keybindings) Others include 
> Sublime Text, Visual Studio Code and Atom.
>
> If you're unsure or have any questions, I'll be at the space the next 
> two mondays, or just ask here and I'll answer as best I can. I'll go 
> over pip (the python package manager) and virtualenvs on the day as 
> they're not entirely necessary, but make your life 1000% easier :)
>
>
> On 5 January 2018 at 13:05, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk 
> <mailto:matt at daubers.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing
>     the whole thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop
>     as a server, part of me thinks we should just dive in inside an
>     interpreter..... I'll have a think and put something up this
>     evening with instructions :)
>
>     On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price <andy at andrewprice.me.uk
>     <mailto:andy at andrewprice.me.uk>> wrote:
>
>         On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>
>             And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January.
>             I'll confirm what
>             you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a
>             laptop!
>
>
>         Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on
>         getting Python, any modules needed, and an editor/IDE
>         installed (particularly on Windows) before the session, and
>         maybe start a bit early for those who need help with getting
>         those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might be
>         swallowed up by installation issues and command line
>         questions. Depends on how much you intend to cover I suppose.
>
>         I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and
>         play teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)
>
>         Andy
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Hackspace mailing list
>         Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>         <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>         http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>         <http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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From matt at daubers.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 14:07:09 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:07:09 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
In-Reply-To: <5A649E05.3080503@aurinia.co.uk>
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You can install python 3 alongside python 2. If people want to go this to
the come and see me Monday evening at the space!

On 21 Jan 2018 14:05, "Neil Jones" <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:

> Can I just warn people. I recently upgraded a machine to python 3 and it
> took over an hour.
> So don't just assume you can spend a few minutes before you come on
> installing the software.
> You don't have to sit around watching the machine but the process is
> prolonged.
>
> Neil
>
> On 05/01/18 20:19, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>
> Ok, so pre-requisites will be:
>
> 1. Install Python 3 (https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-364/).
> I'd prefer you have python 3 as everyone is now dropping support for Python
> 2
> 2. Have an editor installed.
>
> If you're on Windows, ensure your path is setup correctly after installing
> python by opening a terminal window and typing "python". If you get command
> not found or similar, we'll need to fix it. Do the same with "pip".
>
> 2 is a contentious subject. You can use whichever editor you wish, but if
> you're new to all of this I'd recommend PyCharm (
> https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/) The community edition is
> free (As in beer) and its relatively feature filled. I used it for many
> years, but have recently gone back to ViM because I hate myself, or
> something. You can, of course, use emacs (or as someone I once worked with
> did, emacs with the ViM keybindings) Others include Sublime Text, Visual
> Studio Code and Atom.
>
> If you're unsure or have any questions, I'll be at the space the next two
> mondays, or just ask here and I'll answer as best I can. I'll go over pip
> (the python package manager) and virtualenvs on the day as they're not
> entirely necessary, but make your life 1000% easier :)
>
>
> On 5 January 2018 at 13:05, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing the
>> whole thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop as a server,
>> part of me thinks we should just dive in inside an interpreter..... I'll
>> have a think and put something up this evening with instructions :)
>>
>> On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price <andy at andrewprice.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
>>>> what
>>>> you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting Python,
>>> any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on Windows)
>>> before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who need help
>>> with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might be
>>> swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. Depends on
>>> how much you intend to cover I suppose.
>>>
>>> I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play
>>> teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>
>
>
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From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 21 15:50:48 2018
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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Just wanted to double check, it's this Thursday from 7pm?


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
Date:2018/01/21 14:07 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops

You can install python 3 alongside python 2. If people want to go this to the come and see me Monday evening at the space!

On 21 Jan 2018 14:05, "Neil Jones" <neil at aurinia.co.uk<mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>> wrote:
Can I just warn people. I recently upgraded a machine to python 3 and it took over an hour.
So don't just assume you can spend a few minutes before you come on installing the software.
You don't have to sit around watching the machine but the process is prolonged.

Neil

On 05/01/18 20:19, Matthew Daubney wrote:
Ok, so pre-requisites will be:

1. Install Python 3 (https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-364/). I'd prefer you have python 3 as everyone is now dropping support for Python 2
2. Have an editor installed.

If you're on Windows, ensure your path is setup correctly after installing python by opening a terminal window and typing "python". If you get command not found or similar, we'll need to fix it. Do the same with "pip".

2 is a contentious subject. You can use whichever editor you wish, but if you're new to all of this I'd recommend PyCharm (<https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/>https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/) The community edition is free (As in beer) and its relatively feature filled. I used it for many years, but have recently gone back to ViM because I hate myself, or something. You can, of course, use emacs (or as someone I once worked with did, emacs with the ViM keybindings) Others include Sublime Text, Visual Studio Code and Atom.

If you're unsure or have any questions, I'll be at the space the next two mondays, or just ask here and I'll answer as best I can. I'll go over pip (the python package manager) and virtualenvs on the day as they're not entirely necessary, but make your life 1000% easier :)


On 5 January 2018 at 13:05, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk<mailto:matt at daubers.co.uk>> wrote:
Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing the whole thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop as a server, part of me thinks we should just dive in inside an interpreter..... I'll have a think and put something up this evening with instructions :)

On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price <<mailto:andy at andrewprice.me.uk>andy at andrewprice.me.uk<mailto:andy at andrewprice.me.uk>> wrote:
On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm what
you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!

Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting Python, any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on Windows) before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who need help with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might be swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. Depends on how much you intend to cover I suppose.

I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)

Andy


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Hackspace mailing list
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http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace





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From matt at daubers.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 19:15:12 2018
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:15:12 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
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Yup! This Thursday from 7pm

On 21 Jan 2018 15:53, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Just wanted to double check, it's this Thursday from 7pm?
>
>
> No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several
> thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
> Date:2018/01/21 14:07 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
>
> You can install python 3 alongside python 2. If people want to go this to
> the come and see me Monday evening at the space!
>
> On 21 Jan 2018 14:05, "Neil Jones" <neil at aurinia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Can I just warn people. I recently upgraded a machine to python 3 and it
>> took over an hour.
>> So don't just assume you can spend a few minutes before you come on
>> installing the software.
>> You don't have to sit around watching the machine but the process is
>> prolonged.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> On 05/01/18 20:19, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so pre-requisites will be:
>>
>> 1. Install Python 3 (https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-364/).
>> I'd prefer you have python 3 as everyone is now dropping support for Python
>> 2
>> 2. Have an editor installed.
>>
>> If you're on Windows, ensure your path is setup correctly after
>> installing python by opening a terminal window and typing "python". If you
>> get command not found or similar, we'll need to fix it. Do the same with
>> "pip".
>>
>> 2 is a contentious subject. You can use whichever editor you wish, but if
>> you're new to all of this I'd recommend PyCharm (
>> <https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/>
>> https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/) The community edition is
>> free (As in beer) and its relatively feature filled. I used it for many
>> years, but have recently gone back to ViM because I hate myself, or
>> something. You can, of course, use emacs (or as someone I once worked with
>> did, emacs with the ViM keybindings) Others include Sublime Text, Visual
>> Studio Code and Atom.
>>
>> If you're unsure or have any questions, I'll be at the space the next two
>> mondays, or just ask here and I'll answer as best I can. I'll go over pip
>> (the python package manager) and virtualenvs on the day as they're not
>> entirely necessary, but make your life 1000% easier :)
>>
>>
>> On 5 January 2018 at 13:05, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing the
>>> whole thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop as a server,
>>> part of me thinks we should just dive in inside an interpreter..... I'll
>>> have a think and put something up this evening with instructions :)
>>>
>>> On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price < <andy at andrewprice.me.uk>
>>> andy at andrewprice.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm
>>>>> what
>>>>> you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting
>>>> Python, any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on
>>>> Windows) before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who need
>>>> help with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might
>>>> be swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. Depends
>>>> on how much you intend to cover I suppose.
>>>>
>>>> I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play
>>>> teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Hackspace mailing list
>>>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>>>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing listHackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.ukhttp://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hackspace mailing list
>> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>>
>>
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From justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jan 23 12:24:47 2018
From: justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:24:47 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Call for director / trustee nominations
Message-ID: <1516710287.11152.13.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

Our AGM is rapidly approaching and there is just one day left (24th
Jan) to submit nominations for directors / trustees.

We currently only have the minimum required 3 but we would ideally like
to have 5, there is no mountain of paperwork or special skills required
to be a director, but you do get to help make decisions and steer the
day to day running of the hackspace.

If there is anyone you think would make a good director, of if you are
interested in taking up the position yourself you can find the
Nomination form and instructions on the meeting summary page

https://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/Meetings/AGM2018

Also, that page has the current draft agenda, if you have any
suggestions of additional items to be brought up please send them to us
asap.  the final agenda will be published on the 31st jan.




From tim at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jan 23 12:58:14 2018
From: tim at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Tim Clark)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:58:14 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Laser Cutter - out of use
In-Reply-To: <003801d39180$53437e90$f9ca7bb0$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
References: <003801d39180$53437e90$f9ca7bb0$@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <abe23324-52c5-c338-aeb5-34cd15782af9@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

Fixed!

We checked the alignment and tested it yesterday and it appears to have 
regained all the power it has lost over the years and a bit more. As 
this is quite a lot more powerful than recently please remember to test 
your power settings and speeds before cutting.

The test from yesterday turned out rather well: 
https://twitter.com/SwanseaHack/status/955785608873508865

Tim


On 19/01/2018 23:50, tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk wrote:
> The laser cutter tube and PSU have now been replaced.
> The cutter has not yet been aligned and there are still a few tasks that Tim and I need to complete before the laser cutter can be used again.
> We hope to complete them either Sunday or during the open evening on Monday.
>
> Until then, the cutter is not to be used. There is a large and very obvious sign on the laser cutter to this effect.
>
> -  Tom
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace




From tim at swansea.hackspace.org.uk  Tue Jan 23 13:23:32 2018
From: tim at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Tim Clark)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:23:32 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] CNC Machine
Message-ID: <5cacb69e-e89e-f6ba-d6cf-a469da705519@swansea.hackspace.org.uk>

Does anyone know what has happened to the 1/8" collet for the CNC machine?

I went to use the machine yesterday and could not find it, as it was not 
in the box with the rest of them, nor in the machine. If anybody knows 
where it is, what happened to it or realises they accidentally took it 
home can you let me know before I buy a replacement tomorrow.

As a general note to members that if equipment in the Hackspace breaks 
while you are using it or is broken when you go to use it please let the 
directors know so we can repair or replace it.

Tim




From andy at andrewprice.me.uk  Thu Jan 25 13:44:22 2018
From: andy at andrewprice.me.uk (Andrew Price)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:44:22 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Please stop leaving substances on the tables
Message-ID: <fd3c02f1-4100-e161-bc64-0d1f0b1d529c@andrewprice.me.uk>

https://i.imgur.com/2BwyIIf.jpg

This is a shared space, folks.

Cleaning cloths and sprays are available in the wooden cupboard behind 
the first aid pillar.

Andy



From djdavies83 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 25 18:54:15 2018
From: djdavies83 at hotmail.com (David Davies-Day)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:54:15 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops
In-Reply-To: <CALc5WvOJ0rULVqsMGaLC5q5Gd_zRcUR01PpAB-N_-hM=3j-kLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALc5WvPsU_E7Y8SH7KEtU=N-E+S2xR4EyO7chQ4h81-sa_PjGQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CALc5WvMCca5Lfz6cuMzJ5XJVpHhxvF7Y-F_d7XmUbA2Zym8MjA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALc5WvOcYcGqUdzQXF+yN4A5y1Cx3Z=sghKs3_PQOZXoDCTRVw@mail.gmail.com>
	<a952298f-99c3-98bd-7b4e-d6c256a75565@andrewprice.me.uk>
	<CALc5WvM0KsEQyQ-a7LTvUu2EO-ziydNm9JO-paBLaXmxey7+Ww@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALc5WvO5eKk=Gys=pUsxtLqJRFjFiFuGpiy+hwSeW16qYHPN5w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CALc5WvN1iVEBS0W9H821u15sf-0AngAzOOFUZQUgYWd7-2p_Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CWXP265MB0200C75936716216BC69EC44C6ED0@CWXP265MB0200.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
	<CALc5WvOJ0rULVqsMGaLC5q5Gd_zRcUR01PpAB-N_-hM=3j-kLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CWXP265MB0200D244CE197E47DA5F9150C6E10@CWXP265MB0200.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I prepped the desktop and team viewer, to control from my laptop at the tutorial but the laptop is playing up and I can make it, a long shot but, ?s there any possibility on new audio stream ora member kind enough to urn Facebook messenger video for me to work along from home?

Or would you have materials/notes I could work from on my own another time?


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
Date:2018/01/21 19:15 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops

Yup! This Thursday from 7pm

On 21 Jan 2018 15:53, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com<mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Just wanted to double check, it's this Thursday from 7pm?


No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However, several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.

-------- Original message --------
From: Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk<mailto:matt at daubers.co.uk>>
Date:2018/01/21 14:07 (GMT+00:00)
To: Swansea Hackspace <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk<mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Python Workshops

You can install python 3 alongside python 2. If people want to go this to the come and see me Monday evening at the space!

On 21 Jan 2018 14:05, "Neil Jones" <neil at aurinia.co.uk<mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>> wrote:
Can I just warn people. I recently upgraded a machine to python 3 and it took over an hour.
So don't just assume you can spend a few minutes before you come on installing the software.
You don't have to sit around watching the machine but the process is prolonged.

Neil

On 05/01/18 20:19, Matthew Daubney wrote:
Ok, so pre-requisites will be:

1. Install Python 3 (https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-364/). I'd prefer you have python 3 as everyone is now dropping support for Python 2
2. Have an editor installed.

If you're on Windows, ensure your path is setup correctly after installing python by opening a terminal window and typing "python". If you get command not found or similar, we'll need to fix it. Do the same with "pip".

2 is a contentious subject. You can use whichever editor you wish, but if you're new to all of this I'd recommend PyCharm (<https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/>https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/) The community edition is free (As in beer) and its relatively feature filled. I used it for many years, but have recently gone back to ViM because I hate myself, or something. You can, of course, use emacs (or as someone I once worked with did, emacs with the ViM keybindings) Others include Sublime Text, Visual Studio Code and Atom.

If you're unsure or have any questions, I'll be at the space the next two mondays, or just ask here and I'll answer as best I can. I'll go over pip (the python package manager) and virtualenvs on the day as they're not entirely necessary, but make your life 1000% easier :)


On 5 January 2018 at 13:05, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk<mailto:matt at daubers.co.uk>> wrote:
Yep. I'm in two minds over this. Part of me is considering doing the whole thing from Jupyter notebooks and I'll just run my laptop as a server, part of me thinks we should just dive in inside an interpreter..... I'll have a think and put something up this evening with instructions :)

On 5 January 2018 at 11:31, Andrew Price <<mailto:andy at andrewprice.me.uk>andy at andrewprice.me.uk<mailto:andy at andrewprice.me.uk>> wrote:
On 03/01/18 15:33, Matthew Daubney wrote:
And the winner by a nose is Thursday the 25th of January. I'll confirm what
you'll need if you're coming, but you'll definitely need a laptop!

Just a thought: you might want to write some pointers on getting Python, any modules needed, and an editor/IDE installed (particularly on Windows) before the session, and maybe start a bit early for those who need help with getting those set up and familiarised. Otherwise the time might be swallowed up by installation issues and command line questions. Depends on how much you intend to cover I suppose.

I have a little experience with Python so I'll come along and play teaching assistant if that would be helpful :)

Andy


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From brian at hoskins.eu  Sun Jan 28 17:10:45 2018
From: brian at hoskins.eu (Brian J Hoskins)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:10:45 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea Hackspace? If
 not, let's sign each other's key!
Message-ID: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>

Does anyone else at Swansea Hackspace hold dear the general liberal
principals behind private communication? Do you use PGP?

If so, let's sign each other's keys and expand the web of trust[1]!

If all I get is tumble weed and crickets I'll know I'm on my own.  Which
is fine; not a new experience for me :)

Cheers,


-- 
+--------------------------------------------+
| Brian J Hoskins BSc MIET                   |
| Electronics Engineer & Computer Programmer |
+------+-------------------------------------+
| WEB: | brianhoskins.uk                     |
| GIT: | github.com/bh4017                   |
| PGP: | keybase.io/bjh                      |
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust
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From swoodrow at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 13:45:15 2018
From: swoodrow at gmail.com (Shaun Woodrow)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:45:15 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
Message-ID: <CAEt+Lhkxro0OcDKUDcOre_7e=AzJ7MT5zHTkervx3oaCJ-kFWg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian,
I'm pretty much a beginner at PGP and am not sure of its use in my normal
day to day life.
I do have a CACERT.ORG account that I have not used for a few years and
have an incomplete cacsert web of trust with them.
I believe strongly in open standards for encryption and hate that to have
secure https website you need to pay ludicrous money to certificate
companies for very little.
Perhaps you can help me out and advise uses/differences between
cacert/recommendations ?
Thanks
Shaun

On 28 January 2018 at 17:10, Brian J Hoskins <brian at hoskins.eu> wrote:

> Does anyone else at Swansea Hackspace hold dear the general liberal
> principals behind private communication? Do you use PGP?
>
> If so, let's sign each other's keys and expand the web of trust[1]!
>
> If all I get is tumble weed and crickets I'll know I'm on my own.  Which
> is fine; not a new experience for me :)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> --
> +--------------------------------------------+
> | Brian J Hoskins BSc MIET                   |
> | Electronics Engineer & Computer Programmer |
> +------+-------------------------------------+
> | WEB: | brianhoskins.uk                     |
> | GIT: | github.com/bh4017                   |
> | PGP: | keybase.io/bjh                      |
> +------+-------------------------------------+
>
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust
>
> _______________________________________________
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From alan at llwyncelyn.cymru  Mon Jan 29 20:57:48 2018
From: alan at llwyncelyn.cymru (Alan Cox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:57:48 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
Message-ID: <20180129205748.584cc294@alans-desktop>

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:10:45 +0000
Brian J Hoskins <brian at hoskins.eu> wrote:

> Does anyone else at Swansea Hackspace hold dear the general liberal
> principals behind private communication? Do you use PGP?

I never understood why people got so excited about PGP. Most of the
interesting information in communications is about where messages are
sent not the content.

If I was trying to overthrow our evil overlords I'd be meeting on a
large multi-user environment where it's hard to work out who said what to
whom and communicating via a non intended mechanism within that
environment. For example I suspect viterbi encoded encrypted bitstreams
driving crouch/stand on a large minecraft server ought to be fairly safe
8)

I'd also be appearing at random other times sending gibberish so nobody
can try and correlate pairs of users 8)

For bonus points use a crypto system that given different valid keys
gives different valid output. Something Phil Karn suggested decades ago -
so that one key decodes to something embarassing but not dire, and the
other key to the real stuff.

> If so, let's sign each other's keys and expand the web of trust[1]!

'Build a detailed mineable relationship data set'

Alan



From brian at hoskins.eu  Mon Jan 29 22:19:52 2018
From: brian at hoskins.eu (Brian J Hoskins)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:19:52 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <20180129205748.584cc294@alans-desktop>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
	<20180129205748.584cc294@alans-desktop>
Message-ID: <9d5e01f1-551d-3873-3709-7f20e3724cf1@hoskins.eu>

Hello Alan,

I don't get the impression that I have any real chance of persuading you
to change your mind about PGP, and that's OK, but here is why PGP is
"exciting" to me:

----------
PGP enables people to claim their right to private correspondence when
using email.
----------

That's basically it.

Now, the fact that I claim my right to private correspondence says
nothing at all about my wider motives, contrary to the common argument
against privacy which goes something like this:

"If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to worry about"

...which of course implies that if I want to keep my correspondence
private then I must be up to no good.  A total distortion of the general
principals in my view.

But the same people who make those arguments are quite happy to put
their snail-mail letters in a sealed envelope before posting them off to
the recipient.
One reason is to keep the letter physically safe while on-route, I
accept that, but the other reason is that nobody wants someone else (the
post man, the neighbour who gets the letter by mistake, etc) being a
snoop with their letter while it's en-route.

Is someone else likely to do such a thing? Probably not.  Is it a huge
issue if they do? Not usually.  Are you going to take the precaution
anyway? Sure!

It's the same thing with PGP.

For me personally, I believe in the principals behind PGP even though in
practice it hasn't worked because the general public haven't adopted it.

keybase.io is quite an interesting attempt to bring such technology into
the public domain, although it doesn't fix the issue for emails (unless
you use the PGP key with it).

Anyway, that's my reason for maintaining a public/private keypair.

Cheers,

Brian.








On 29/01/18 20:57, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:10:45 +0000
> Brian J Hoskins <brian at hoskins.eu> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone else at Swansea Hackspace hold dear the general liberal
>> principals behind private communication? Do you use PGP?
> 
> I never understood why people got so excited about PGP. Most of the
> interesting information in communications is about where messages are
> sent not the content.
> 
> If I was trying to overthrow our evil overlords I'd be meeting on a
> large multi-user environment where it's hard to work out who said what to
> whom and communicating via a non intended mechanism within that
> environment. For example I suspect viterbi encoded encrypted bitstreams
> driving crouch/stand on a large minecraft server ought to be fairly safe
> 8)
> 
> I'd also be appearing at random other times sending gibberish so nobody
> can try and correlate pairs of users 8)
> 
> For bonus points use a crypto system that given different valid keys
> gives different valid output. Something Phil Karn suggested decades ago -
> so that one key decodes to something embarassing but not dire, and the
> other key to the real stuff.
> 
>> If so, let's sign each other's keys and expand the web of trust[1]!
> 
> 'Build a detailed mineable relationship data set'
> 
> Alan
> 

-- 
+--------------------------------------------+
| Brian J Hoskins BSc MIET                   |
| Electronics Engineer & Computer Programmer |
+------+-------------------------------------+
| WEB: | brianhoskins.uk                     |
| GIT: | github.com/bh4017                   |
| PGP: | keybase.io/bjh                      |
+------+-------------------------------------+



From dick.porter at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 18:23:10 2018
From: dick.porter at gmail.com (Dick Porter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:23:10 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <CAEt+Lhkxro0OcDKUDcOre_7e=AzJ7MT5zHTkervx3oaCJ-kFWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
	<CAEt+Lhkxro0OcDKUDcOre_7e=AzJ7MT5zHTkervx3oaCJ-kFWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <345B401C-FE63-484E-B3BF-8A4BC0F522FA@gmail.com>


> On 29 Jan 2018, at 1:45 pm, Shaun Woodrow <swoodrow at gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe strongly in open standards for encryption and hate that to have secure https website you need to pay ludicrous money to certificate companies for very little.

Alternatively, you could use Lets Encrypt for free?

https://letsencrypt.org/

- Dick





From swoodrow at gmail.com  Tue Jan 30 09:11:49 2018
From: swoodrow at gmail.com (Shaun Woodrow)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:11:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <345B401C-FE63-484E-B3BF-8A4BC0F522FA@gmail.com>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
	<CAEt+Lhkxro0OcDKUDcOre_7e=AzJ7MT5zHTkervx3oaCJ-kFWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<345B401C-FE63-484E-B3BF-8A4BC0F522FA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEt+LhnVS1JX375V7pkn723mgSjE0Wy_UrXfF7T1c7FsRHuJgA@mail.gmail.com>

Ooooo... Cheers for that .. not heard of them before ..

Thanks very much!

Shaun

On 29 January 2018 at 18:23, Dick Porter <dick.porter at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > On 29 Jan 2018, at 1:45 pm, Shaun Woodrow <swoodrow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I believe strongly in open standards for encryption and hate that to
> have secure https website you need to pay ludicrous money to certificate
> companies for very little.
>
> Alternatively, you could use Lets Encrypt for free?
>
> https://letsencrypt.org/
>
> - Dick
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hackspace mailing list
> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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From justin at discordia.org.uk  Tue Jan 30 09:20:49 2018
From: justin at discordia.org.uk (Justin Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:20:49 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <CAEt+LhnVS1JX375V7pkn723mgSjE0Wy_UrXfF7T1c7FsRHuJgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
	<CAEt+Lhkxro0OcDKUDcOre_7e=AzJ7MT5zHTkervx3oaCJ-kFWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<345B401C-FE63-484E-B3BF-8A4BC0F522FA@gmail.com>
	<CAEt+LhnVS1JX375V7pkn723mgSjE0Wy_UrXfF7T1c7FsRHuJgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1517304049.26216.2.camel@discordia.org.uk>


> On 29 January 2018 at 18:23, Dick Porter <dick.porter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On 29 Jan 2018, at 1:45 pm, Shaun Woodrow <swoodrow at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I believe strongly in open standards for encryption and hate that
> > to have secure https website you need to pay ludicrous money to
> > certificate companies for very little.
> > 
> > Alternatively, you could use Lets Encrypt for free?
> > 
> > https://letsencrypt.org/
> > 
> > - Dick

Any sign of them doing S/MIME certificates yet ?

As that was the other thing i used to get for free from StartSSL before
they turned out to be dodgy and everyone dropped them.






From alan at llwyncelyn.cymru  Wed Jan 31 21:56:19 2018
From: alan at llwyncelyn.cymru (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:56:19 +0000
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Am I the only PGP nerd at Swansea
 Hackspace? If not, let's sign each other's key!
In-Reply-To: <9d5e01f1-551d-3873-3709-7f20e3724cf1@hoskins.eu>
References: <47101550-c448-aad5-bd8a-61118ce0f3e8@hoskins.eu>
	<20180129205748.584cc294@alans-desktop>
	<9d5e01f1-551d-3873-3709-7f20e3724cf1@hoskins.eu>
Message-ID: <20180131215619.1f53ec6d@alans-desktop>

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:19:52 +0000
Brian J Hoskins <brian at hoskins.eu> wrote:

> Hello Alan,
> 
> I don't get the impression that I have any real chance of persuading you
> to change your mind about PGP, and that's OK, but here is why PGP is
> "exciting" to me:

Don't get me wrong PGP is really cool as a tool for encrypting content,
and even more so for verifing content and trust. It's just that privacy
is a lot more complicated.

> But the same people who make those arguments are quite happy to put
> their snail-mail letters in a sealed envelope before posting them off to
> the recipient.

And the same applies for both. The security services don't care much
about content. Who mailed whom is the bit of interest - and in fact paper
is a bit more secure in some ways as UK letters don't generally have a
visible return address. In the USA it's a requirement - guess why 8)

Alan