From Andymrush at live.co.uk Fri Sep 4 14:14:58 2020 From: Andymrush at live.co.uk (Andy Rush) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 13:14:58 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Open Saturday, Tomorrow, 10am-7pm Message-ID: Greetings, all A quick reminder that we'll be running the first of two "open" days tomorrow for members without keyfobs (and those with who haven't got the time on weekdays) to come clear their belongings from the Hackspace before we leave. Buzz yourself in when you arrive. Please wear masks and maintain social distancing in the Space. Thanks Andy Director -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alice at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Sun Sep 6 15:17:17 2020 From: alice at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Alice Mitchell) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:17:17 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] The Great Escape - Appeal for help Message-ID: <1c7770e7ef7d763b4db28457044931be69173ba9.camel@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> Hi Folks, As I am sure you are all aware now we have been given only a few weeks by our landlords agents to vacate our current space. Well searching for an alternative is not proving to be easy, there is very little on the market now and we have talked to a few of the local commercial property agents, and so far there has only been one maybe useful space. So we need your help ! Please can everyone keep their eyes and ears open for any kind of space for rent, be it an empty garage or lockup, or a industrial or office space somewhere in the city. Pretty much anywhere with a roof and electricity, or even just space to temporarily store everything. If you know of any such places, and more importantly you know who to talk to about it, because we have all seen the hundreds of vacant properties around the city with no contact info, then please let us know ASAP. In the mean time will everyone please where possible arrange to come to the space and grab anything that is yours that you can take away, because worst comes to the worst the less stuff we need to put in storage the better. Time is running short and we are going to have to start dismantling and boxing things up very soon, if you can help with any of these tasks or have info to offer please join us on Discord or drop us an email to directors at ... Find us on Discord here: https://discord.gg/rSyTWUA -Alice From paul at harwood-leon.com Tue Sep 8 13:33:57 2020 From: paul at harwood-leon.com (Paul Harwood) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 13:33:57 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Notice] We're moving out - End of the Wind Street Space In-Reply-To: <20200829180635.px5gsickrikkb3bt@sucs.org> References: <20200829180635.px5gsickrikkb3bt@sucs.org> Message-ID: Hi, As an admirer of Hackspace?s community from afar, I would humbly like to offer my advice around the current situation with an ?if I were you? summary of what I think could work. You may already be considering these options, apologies if there is repetition. - I would consolidate the position of hackspace and park the community by storing the equipment and asking the community to contribute that storage - Run a community audit, where you audit the value of the community to the local economy and start to build up a financial picture - Run a crowd fund and approach WCVA and/or other entities like UWTSD with enough of a case to raise a small capital position that allows Hackspace to BUY a property with a commercial mortgage - consider anything! Mothballed Ships are fairly cheap and can be moored in the docks at a long term lease, containers are cheap to buy, think laterally and be creative, the more engaging the idea for the new hackspace, the more newsworthy and the more attractive to funders - This would free up the community from the problem of a landlord, admittedly increasing other costs and burdens, but this would be a platform for a more credible entity. Easy and cheap landlord deals can seem good until you have to move out the 5th time - Alternatively, try to strike a long term (+10 yr) fixed deal with a landlord, but with the above in place (including the capital position for fit out), factoring in growth and shrinkage into the contract We have been hit hard by COVID19 in TechHub and we are just about surviving, but it means some tough decisions to remain viable. Long term thinking seems a luxury I know, but it is worth it now to put in the foundations for the next 20 years of the hackspace. It would be an incredible shame to see the hackspace community be thinned out because it couldn?t find a suitable venue, as communities are so hard to build and nurture in this part of the world. ? Paul > On 29 Aug 2020, at 19:06, Swansea Hackspace Directors wrote: > > Hi all, > > This email is being sent directly to all paid members as well as to the > mailing list. > > Yesterday afternoon (28th) the directors were sent notice from our > landlord's letting agent that they have found someone willing to rent > our space at the full commercial rate. We have therefore been given just > 4 weeks to vacate and move everything out. > > This has always been a possibility, but the middle of a pandemic > obviously isn't a great time to be finding new premises and we're having > to proceed on the basis that we will not have a new home for the space > before the end of our notice period. > > What you need to do: > > All personal property needs to be removed from the space before the > 18th of September. Feel free to take your storage box with you. > > *** Any property remaining in the space after the 18th may be disposed of > at the discretion of the directors *** > > If you are not able to visit the space before the 18th, please contact > the directors to make other arrangements. > > The COVID-19 rules remain in place, so please let us know when you're > planning to visit. We're also still open for bookings to use the space > and our equipment as normal until the 18th. > > Non-keyholders please contact the directors or another keyholder to > arrange for one of us to be present to open the space for you. For the > purposes of collecting property we will relax the "one household at a > time" rule, but please ensure that you remain at least 2m from members > and other building occupants that are not part of your household or > extended household, and consider wearing a face mask during your visit. > > The hackspace's own property will be stored until we can find ourselves > new premises or we have exhausted all reasonable alternatives. > > If anyone is aware of suitable alternative premises, send the details > (most importantly, including the price) to the directors: > directors at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > A link to the details from a letting agent/estate agent would be ideal, > although we are also looking at those. > > We will be making further announcements about membership fees soon, and > certainly before the next round of direct debits are processed. We will > also email nearer the time looking for volunteers to help move > everything out. > > Kind regards, > > Tom, Tim, Liz, Andy and Alice > Directors, Swansea Hackspace > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace From lw1660 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 14:19:31 2020 From: lw1660 at gmail.com (Sophie Shermer) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 14:19:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Notice] We're moving out - End of the Wind Street Space In-Reply-To: References: <20200829180635.px5gsickrikkb3bt@sucs.org> Message-ID: Great suggestions, Paul. Given the current state of affairs, I think the best option may be to put equipment temporarily in storage. There's almost certainly going to be a crash in the commercial property market in the next year or so, which may make commercial property more affordable to either rent or buy but I like the idea of buying some shipping containers (or even an actual ship), and converting them into workshop space for the community -- if the community help out this might not be very expensive and I'd be happy to volunteer. It would be work but a great community project. Sophie > > As an admirer of Hackspace?s community from afar, I would humbly like to offer my advice around the current situation with an ?if I were you? summary of what I think could work. You may already be considering these options, apologies if there is repetition. > > - I would consolidate the position of hackspace and park the community by storing the equipment and asking the community to contribute that storage > - Run a community audit, where you audit the value of the community to the local economy and start to build up a financial picture > - Run a crowd fund and approach WCVA and/or other entities like UWTSD with enough of a case to raise a small capital position that allows Hackspace to BUY a property with a commercial mortgage > - consider anything! Mothballed Ships are fairly cheap and can be moored in the docks at a long term lease, containers are cheap to buy, think laterally and be creative, the more engaging the idea for the new hackspace, the more newsworthy and the more attractive to funders > - This would free up the community from the problem of a landlord, admittedly increasing other costs and burdens, but this would be a platform for a more credible entity. Easy and cheap landlord deals can seem good until you have to move out the 5th time > - Alternatively, try to strike a long term (+10 yr) fixed deal with a landlord, but with the above in place (including the capital position for fit out), factoring in growth and shrinkage into the contract > > We have been hit hard by COVID19 in TechHub and we are just about surviving, but it means some tough decisions to remain viable. Long term thinking seems a luxury I know, but it is worth it now to put in the foundations for the next 20 years of the hackspace. > > It would be an incredible shame to see the hackspace community be thinned out because it couldn?t find a suitable venue, as communities are so hard to build and nurture in this part of the world. > > ? Paul From keyz182 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:35:29 2020 From: keyz182 at gmail.com (Kieran Evans) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 17:35:29 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Local 3D Printing/CNC groups Message-ID: Does anyone know of any local 3D printing and/or CNC groups? I'm downsizing and want to sell off my 3D printers, along with my CNC mini mill that I never got round to wiring up. Would like to have them go to someone who'd know what to do with them and make use of them, and gumtree is proving useless of late. Kieran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From alexmduffield at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:44:37 2020 From: alexmduffield at gmail.com (Alex Duffield) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 17:44:37 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Local 3D Printing/CNC groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Could as a start drop some info here? I could pass it onto a few groups that might be interested but there's none specific that I know of On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 PM Kieran Evans wrote: > Does anyone know of any local 3D printing and/or CNC groups? I'm > downsizing and want to sell off my 3D printers, along with my CNC mini mill > that I never got round to wiring up. Would like to have them go to someone > who'd know what to do with them and make use of them, and gumtree is > proving useless of late. > > Kieran > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keyz182 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 18:05:20 2020 From: keyz182 at gmail.com (Kieran Evans) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 18:05:20 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Local 3D Printing/CNC groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3578f3e0-809f-28b9-1df3-23c4b4bce4c0@gmail.com> Sure, all prices open to offers: Hypercube Evolution - CoreXY - ?450 * 320x320 mains heated build plate * ~280mm build height (potentially could be tweaked to over 300) * e3d hemera + volcano hotend (with current assembly, limits print area to about 280x280mm) * Duet Wifi 2 controller + Screen * Hiwin linear rails for XY * BLTouch bed leveling * Can provide most of the Fusion360 CAD designs (some is original Hevo design, some is custom, I've lost track at this point). * It may have a meanwell power supply, can't remember, will need to check. * Magnetic build plate "Scrap Printer" - designed a printer that would use only parts I already had over a weekend. - ?100 (duet + screen is ?200 alone) * ~200x200x200mm build area * Duet wifi + screen * e3d titan * Design and build - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB7cIuujCNRwTjod-JeD7_v_aeFrUvVVo Openbuilds Minimill - ?400 * https://openbuilds.com/builds/openbuilds-minimill.5087/ * Not official Openbuilds parts - chinese imports * BLDC Motor - 750w + VESC4 controller * Generic Chinese stepper controllers * AXBB-E motion controller http://cncdrive.com/AXBB.html - Massive overkill. Will make sure you get the UCCNC license too I also have a 1KG spool of Amazon 2.85mm dark gray ABS that is free to collector. Opened it yesterday without double checking the label... Planning to just get a Prusa Mini instead - I think I've only used the full extend of the Hevo build volume once or twice. On 08/09/2020 17:41, Gwion Davies wrote: > > Got a list of items and prices? I maybe interested. > > ? > > Best, > > Gwion. > > ? > > *From: *Kieran Evans > *Sent: *08 September 2020 17:40 > *To: *Swansea Hackspace > *Subject: *[Swansea Hackspace] Local 3D Printing/CNC groups > > ? > > Does anyone know of any local 3D printing and/or CNC groups? I'm > downsizing and want to sell off my 3D printers, along with my CNC mini > mill that I never got round to wiring up. 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Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 840 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From swoodrow at gmail.com Thu Sep 10 08:17:26 2020 From: swoodrow at gmail.com (Shaun Woodrow) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:17:26 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Notice] We're moving out - End of the Wind Street Space In-Reply-To: References: <20200829180635.px5gsickrikkb3bt@sucs.org> Message-ID: Hi, I have some space in a container in my garden which with a little bit of sorting could hold a fair amount of stuff temporarily if that helps? I imagine can manage about a 3rd of a 20ft container. I am just outside swansea SA8 4DQ. Shaun On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:20 PM Sophie Shermer wrote: > > Great suggestions, Paul. > > Given the current state of affairs, I think the best option may be to put > equipment temporarily in storage. There's almost certainly going to be a > crash in the commercial property market in the next year or so, which may > make commercial property more affordable to either rent or buy but I like > the idea of buying some shipping containers (or even an actual ship), and > converting them into workshop space for the community -- if the community > help out this might not be very expensive and I'd be happy to volunteer. > It would be work but a great community project. > > Sophie > > > > > > As an admirer of Hackspace?s community from afar, I would humbly like to > offer my advice around the current situation with an ?if I were you? > summary of what I think could work. You may already be considering these > options, apologies if there is repetition. > > > > - I would consolidate the position of hackspace and park the community > by storing the equipment and asking the community to contribute that storage > > - Run a community audit, where you audit the value of the community to > the local economy and start to build up a financial picture > > - Run a crowd fund and approach WCVA and/or other entities like UWTSD > with enough of a case to raise a small capital position that allows > Hackspace to BUY a property with a commercial mortgage > > - consider anything! Mothballed Ships are fairly cheap and can be moored > in the docks at a long term lease, containers are cheap to buy, think > laterally and be creative, the more engaging the idea for the new > hackspace, the more newsworthy and the more attractive to funders > > - This would free up the community from the problem of a landlord, > admittedly increasing other costs and burdens, but this would be a platform > for a more credible entity. Easy and cheap landlord deals can seem good > until you have to move out the 5th time > > - Alternatively, try to strike a long term (+10 yr) fixed deal with a > landlord, but with the above in place (including the capital position for > fit out), factoring in growth and shrinkage into the contract > > > > We have been hit hard by COVID19 in TechHub and we are just about > surviving, but it means some tough decisions to remain viable. 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Skills we suspect are useful:- * Plastering * Painting (walls etc) * Mains wiring (sockets and lights) * Simple Carpentry (door locks, shelving, partitions, etc) * Fire alarm systems * Carpet or Vinyl floor laying Having an idea of what we could or could not manage will help us in these more "lateral thinking" solutions Thanks -Alice From lw1660 at gmail.com Thu Sep 10 13:37:05 2020 From: lw1660 at gmail.com (Sophie Shermer) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 13:37:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Call for skills In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alice, > It is looking less and less likely that we will find a neat ready to > move into office like our current one any time soon thats affordable, > and more likely that we might end up somewhere that needs a bit of care > and attention, and thinking ahead incase we do get offered such a place > it would be great to know what skills we can call upon from our members > to help keep the costs down. > > So if you have experience in any of the following areas, or know of > anyone who can help out for mates rates please do let us know asap, > either to directors@ or replying to the list. > > Skills we suspect are useful:- > * Plastering > * Painting (walls etc) > * Mains wiring (sockets and lights) > * Simple Carpentry (door locks, shelving, partitions, etc) > * Fire alarm systems > * Carpet or Vinyl floor laying > > Having an idea of what we could or could not manage will help us in > these more "lateral thinking" solutions I'd be happy to help out if needed and time-permitting. I'm not a skilled tradesperson but I've done a fair bit of DIY home improvement, painting, floors, furniture, some electrics and plumbing though if it's a commercial site then you'll need a qualified electrician to certify work. Sophie From Andymrush at live.co.uk Fri Sep 11 13:38:14 2020 From: Andymrush at live.co.uk (Andy Rush) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:38:14 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] LAST "OPEN" SATURDAY TOMORROW- IF YOU DON'T COME GET YOUR STUFF TOMORROW, IT'S GOING IN A SKIP! Message-ID: Hey, all Tomorrow, 10-7, will be the last Open Saturday. This will be the last opportunity for members without Keyfob access to the space to come get and and all personal belongings that they've stored in the space. If you don't come and get it, it's going in a skip. This is also a reminder that members with keyfobs have until the 18th next week to organise bookings to take their stuff from the space. After that, it's going in a skip. 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This will be the last > opportunity for members without Keyfob access to the space to come get and > and all personal belongings that they've stored in the space. > > If you don't come and get it, it's going in a skip. > > This is also a reminder that members with keyfobs have until the 18th next > week to organise bookings to take their stuff from the space. > > After that, it's going in a skip. > > Andy > Director > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From eba at ebassociates.co.uk Mon Sep 14 13:27:48 2020 From: eba at ebassociates.co.uk (EBA Consulting Ltd) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:27:48 +0000 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Storage boxes and belongings in the Hackspace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b5bbf97f06c42bfaa65d3a315e46869@ebassociates.co.uk> Hi Andy I know of commercial premises in Carmarthen - not sure if that would be too far out for you? Regards Eddie Ball EBA Consulting Ltd +44(0)7767426142 +44(0)1554890300 Website: http://www.ebassociates.co.uk/ ________________________________ From: Hackspace on behalf of Andy Rush Sent: 14 September 2020 12:37 To: hackspace Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Storage boxes and belongings in the Hackspace Hey, all A quick reminder: this Fiday (18th) is the final deadline for members to come and get ANY belongings stored in the hackspace. This includes anything in personal storage boxes, lockers, tools loaned to the space, personal projects, etc. If it's yours, come and get it, as we won't be putting individual belongings into storage. As COVID restriction are still in effect, please book the space with the directors before you come and pick your stuff up. Regards Andy Director -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Mon Sep 14 22:07:07 2020 From: tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Tom Lake) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:07:07 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Old wifi routers up for grabs Message-ID: <20200914210706.wq4ow6jamyryvsob@sucs.org> We have a small number of Sweex, Netgear and Linksys routers that are free to a good home. Or indeed any home that wants them. No power supplies or other cabling included. Either let us know when you're planning to visit the space or contact me to arrange a time to collect them between now and Friday. Cheers, Tom From tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk Sun Sep 20 19:45:15 2020 From: tom at swansea.hackspace.org.uk (Thomas Lake) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:45:15 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thank you Message-ID: <6e3ccce35b7fe45d82107e562b361ecb@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> Just to say a massive thank you from me to everyone that's helped out this week, and particularly over the last few days. We now have a fairly full shipping container and a very empty looking Hackspace, with only a very small number of items left to be moved. What was starting to look like an impossible job on Friday has been pretty much completed. There's a few things left to do between now and our deadline at the end of this week, and thanks in advance to everyone that's agreed to help out with those. As unfortunate as it is that we've had to move out, at least we've been able to do it without having to lose any of our equipment. There are plans in the works for new spaces and opportunities - we'll let you all know as much as we can as soon as we're able. In the interim, we will be carrying on with the Monday night virtual socials on Discord and there's still plenty of space to discuss projects and problems there, or here on the mailing list. - Tom -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_20200920_163710.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 996027 bytes Desc: not available URL: From matt at daubers.co.uk Sun Sep 20 19:49:39 2020 From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:49:39 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Thank you In-Reply-To: <6e3ccce35b7fe45d82107e562b361ecb@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> References: <6e3ccce35b7fe45d82107e562b361ecb@swansea.hackspace.org.uk> Message-ID: Ah man, though its sad that space has gone, that's the tidiest I've ever seen it! Also, good luck with the space hunting, not a fun task. Matt Daubney On Sun, 20 Sep 2020, 19:45 Thomas Lake, wrote: > Just to say a massive thank you from me to everyone that's helped out > this week, and particularly over the last few days. > We now have a fairly full shipping container and a very empty looking > Hackspace, with only a very small number of items left to be moved. > > What was starting to look like an impossible job on Friday has been > pretty much completed. > > There's a few things left to do between now and our deadline at the end > of this week, and thanks in advance to everyone that's agreed to help > out with those. > As unfortunate as it is that we've had to move out, at least we've been > able to do it without having to lose any of our equipment. > > There are plans in the works for new spaces and opportunities - we'll > let you all know as much as we can as soon as we're able. > In the interim, we will be carrying on with the Monday night virtual > socials on Discord and there's still plenty of space to discuss projects > and problems there, or here on the mailing list. > > - Tom > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at aurinia.co.uk Mon Sep 28 14:06:02 2020 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 14:06:02 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay Message-ID: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> Hi Everyone, Does anyone have experience of using a Solid State Relay to control mains current. What I am looking at is running a SSR with a 240v mains component and two 12 or 5v components. I wonder how people safely secure these and what kind of enclosures are usually recommended? I know people sometimes put things in margarine tubs etc. and theoretically this is safe but I am trying to create something that really is safe. Neil From pe5erb at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 14:21:22 2020 From: pe5erb at gmail.com (Peter Barnes) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 14:21:22 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay In-Reply-To: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> References: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: Neil, You want a reasonably solid, plastic, enclosure with strain relief for the incoming and outgoing mains cable. An easy way to do this would be to buy a junction box with 20mm knockouts, then buy some 20mm cable glands for strain relief. All of that is available in the IP66 variety if it needs to be waterproof. Peter On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:06 PM Neil Jones wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone have experience of using a Solid State Relay to control > mains current. What I am looking at is running a SSR with a 240v mains > component and two 12 or 5v components. I wonder how people safely secure > these and what kind of enclosures are usually recommended? > > I know people sometimes put things in margarine tubs etc. and > theoretically this is safe but I am trying to create something that > really is safe. > > Neil > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:06 PM Neil Jones wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone have experience of using a Solid State Relay to control > mains current. What I am looking at is running a SSR with a 240v mains > component and two 12 or 5v components. I wonder how people safely secure > these and what kind of enclosures are usually recommended? > > I know people sometimes put things in margarine tubs etc. and > theoretically this is safe but I am trying to create something that > really is safe. > > Neil > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 15:55:41 2020 From: ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com (Ceri Clatworthy) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:55:41 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay In-Reply-To: References: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: Should really be EARTHED !!!!!! especially for TESTING. Medium Aluminium box https://cnconwell.en.made-in-china.com/product/sCpmlRIEYgco/China-Electrical-Distribution-Panel-Board-250-200-150-Metal-Junction-Box.html On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:22 PM Peter Barnes wrote: > Neil, > > You want a reasonably solid, plastic, enclosure with strain relief for the > incoming and outgoing mains cable. > > An easy way to do this would be to buy a junction box with 20mm knockouts, > then buy some 20mm cable glands for strain relief. All of that is available > in the IP66 variety if it needs to be waterproof. > > > Peter > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:06 PM Neil Jones wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Does anyone have experience of using a Solid State Relay to control >> mains current. What I am looking at is running a SSR with a 240v mains >> component and two 12 or 5v components. I wonder how people safely secure >> these and what kind of enclosures are usually recommended? >> >> I know people sometimes put things in margarine tubs etc. and >> theoretically this is safe but I am trying to create something that >> really is safe. >> >> Neil >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:06 PM Neil Jones wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Does anyone have experience of using a Solid State Relay to control >> mains current. What I am looking at is running a SSR with a 240v mains >> component and two 12 or 5v components. I wonder how people safely secure >> these and what kind of enclosures are usually recommended? >> >> I know people sometimes put things in margarine tubs etc. and >> theoretically this is safe but I am trying to create something that >> really is safe. >> >> Neil >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hackspace mailing list >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk >> http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace >> > _______________________________________________ > Hackspace mailing list > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk > http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at llwyncelyn.cymru Mon Sep 28 16:38:20 2020 From: alan at llwyncelyn.cymru (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:38:20 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay In-Reply-To: References: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <20200928163820.20538c9b@alans-desktop> On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:55:41 +0100 Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > Should really be EARTHED !!!!!! > > especially for TESTING. > > Medium Aluminium box Ditto for noise reduction unless the SSR being used is a zero cross switching SSR (these only switch when the AC is at the crossing point so avoiding noise spikes from chopping a 300v+ peak to zero fast) Alan From neil at aurinia.co.uk Tue Sep 29 11:56:53 2020 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:56:53 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay In-Reply-To: <20200928163820.20538c9b@alans-desktop> References: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> <20200928163820.20538c9b@alans-desktop> Message-ID: <664c1d01-dede-b4ce-dc52-84deb6e0a015@aurinia.co.uk> On 28/09/2020 16:38, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:55:41 +0100 > Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > >> Should really be EARTHED !!!!!! >> >> especially for TESTING. >> >> Medium Aluminium box > Ditto for noise reduction unless the SSR being used is a zero cross > switching SSR (these only switch when the AC is at the crossing point so > avoiding noise spikes from chopping a 300v+ peak to zero fast) > > Alan Thanks Ceri and Alan. I hadn't thought about the noise issue.? I had come across zero cross switching as it is an issue for control by rapid switching PWM stuff but it isn't a concern for me. That is very useful. Neil From neil at aurinia.co.uk Tue Sep 29 11:57:53 2020 From: neil at aurinia.co.uk (Neil Jones) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:57:53 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay In-Reply-To: References: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: On 28/09/2020 14:21, Peter Barnes wrote: > Neil, > > You want a reasonably solid, plastic, enclosure?with strain relief?for > the incoming and outgoing mains cable. > > An easy way to do this would be to buy a junction box with 20mm > knockouts, then buy some 20mm cable glands for strain relief. All of > that is available in the IP66 variety if it needs to be waterproof. > > > Peter > Thanks Peter. That is very useful to know. and helps me a lot. Neil From alan at llwyncelyn.cymru Tue Sep 29 12:12:21 2020 From: alan at llwyncelyn.cymru (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:12:21 +0100 Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Isolating Solid State Relay In-Reply-To: <664c1d01-dede-b4ce-dc52-84deb6e0a015@aurinia.co.uk> References: <5e76f0cd-1ddb-642b-3eb7-3672b565cd0c@aurinia.co.uk> <20200928163820.20538c9b@alans-desktop> <664c1d01-dede-b4ce-dc52-84deb6e0a015@aurinia.co.uk> Message-ID: <20200929121221.1e33491a@alans-desktop> On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:56:53 +0100 Neil Jones wrote: > On 28/09/2020 16:38, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:55:41 +0100 > > Ceri Clatworthy wrote: > > > >> Should really be EARTHED !!!!!! > >> > >> especially for TESTING. > >> > >> Medium Aluminium box > > Ditto for noise reduction unless the SSR being used is a zero cross > > switching SSR (these only switch when the AC is at the crossing point so > > avoiding noise spikes from chopping a 300v+ peak to zero fast) > > > > Alan > > Thanks Ceri and Alan. I hadn't thought about the noise issue.? I had > come across zero cross switching as it is an issue for control by rapid > switching PWM stuff but it isn't a concern for me. That is very useful. If you don't have a zero crossing SSR you not only want a box you also should have something to damp the noise or it'll be all over your 5v and 12v signals. Normally you'd use metal oxide varistors or a transient voltage suppressor of some kind. Alan