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1. Re: Hackspace first meet 11March (Etched Pixels)<br>
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3. Re: Hackspace first meet 11March (Dan Craggs)<br>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:29:57 +0000<br>
From: Etched Pixels <<a href="mailto:alan@etchedpixels.co.uk">alan@etchedpixels.co.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
To: Neil Jones <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>><br>
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> > I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)<br>
> ><br>
> > Alan<br>
><br>
> I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision<br>
<br>
Chill a bit, it's not the end of the world (well ok Tallwyn perhaps<br>
is ;)), and it's not a bus I'd carry anything that looked valuable on to<br>
be honest.<br>
<br>
My inclination would be for somewhere in town or perhaps out a bit<br>
towards the university. However I'm a non-driver so blissfully ignorant<br>
of where the traffic problems are for rush hour and a bit beyond.<br>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:11:38 +0000<br>
From: J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>"<br>
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No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's a better fit for people's transport needs.<br>
I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday or already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town centre)<br>
It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing stopping us having several all over town to give everyone a chance to meet up and get to know each other before we do any real planning, I don't see that it would spell disaster if we can't all make the first one....it's hard to pick a universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.<br>
From: <a href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
<br>
I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that was made - if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)<br>
On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:<br>
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<br>
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000<br>
Dan Craggs <<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?<br>
<br>
<br>
Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes<br>
from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that<br>
I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).<br>
<br>
I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the meeting at<br>
such a crazily inaccessible location.<br>
<br>
It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to NEATH.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the Open<br>
Source movement and who would be an asset to<br>
<br>
the group cannot attend! <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox</a><br>
<br>
I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second in<br>
command" after Linus Torvalds himself"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it exists<br>
today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work over the years<br>
in order to function.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE MUST<br>
organise this to work around central Swansea locations.<br>
<br>
My concern is if you start biasing it away from people without<br>
transport then we might find that the Hackspace itself is placed at<br>
an inaccessible location<br>
<br>
and that it will fail as a result.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Please please can we not assume that everyone has car transport and<br>
arrange things near motorways so that those with cars and not<br>
inconvenienced for a few minutes extra driving and those without<br>
cars have to spend an hour more travelling because of the vagaries<br>
of the transport system or are put off because they<br>
<br>
don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30<br>
<br>
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From: Dan Craggs <<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
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Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually seem fine<br>
with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can tether I'm sure.<br>
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Dan<br>
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On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion and<br>
> I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's a better fit for people's<br>
> transport needs.<br>
><br>
> I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday or<br>
> already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town centre)<br>
><br>
> It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing stopping us<br>
> having several all over town to give everyone a chance to meet up and get<br>
> to know each other before we do any real planning, I don't see that it<br>
> would spell disaster if we can't all make the first one....it's hard to<br>
> pick a universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.<br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just because<br>
> of the location. It was just the first suggestion that was made - if<br>
> anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)<br>
><br>
> On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000<br>
> Dan Craggs <<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?<br>
><br>
> Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes<br>
> from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that<br>
> I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).<br>
><br>
> I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)<br>
><br>
> Alan<br>
><br>
><br>
> I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the meeting at such<br>
> a crazily inaccessible location.<br>
> It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to NEATH.<br>
><br>
> Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the Open Source<br>
> movement and who would be an asset to<br>
> the group cannot attend! <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox</a><br>
> I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second in command"<br>
> after Linus Torvalds <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds</a>>himself"<br>
><br>
> This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it exists<br>
> today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work over the years in order<br>
> to function.<br>
><br>
> I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE MUST organise<br>
> this to work around central Swansea locations.<br>
> My concern is if you start biasing it away from people without transport<br>
> then we might find that the Hackspace itself is placed at an inaccessible<br>
> location<br>
> and that it will fail as a result.<br>
><br>
> Please please can we not assume that everyone has car transport and<br>
> arrange things near motorways so that those with cars and not<br>
> inconvenienced for a few minutes extra driving and those without cars have<br>
> to spend an hour more travelling because of the vagaries of the transport<br>
> system or are put off because they<br>
> don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.<br>
><br>
> I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30<br>
><br>
> Neil<br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000<br>
From: J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>"<br>
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I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless anyone lives near by? :)<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
<br>
Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually seem fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can tether I'm sure.<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
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No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's a better fit for people's transport needs.<br>
<br>
<br>
I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday or already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town centre)<br>
It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing stopping us having several all over town to give everyone a chance to meet up and get to know each other before we do any real planning, I don't see that it would spell disaster if we can't all make the first one....it's hard to pick a universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.<br>
<br>
<br>
From: <a href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000<br>
<br>
<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
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I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that was made - if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)<br>
<br>
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On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
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On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:<br>
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On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000<br>
Dan Craggs <<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?<br>
<br>
<br>
Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes<br>
from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that<br>
I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).<br>
<br>
I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the meeting at<br>
such a crazily inaccessible location.<br>
<br>
It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to NEATH.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the Open<br>
Source movement and who would be an asset to<br>
<br>
the group cannot attend! <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox</a><br>
<br>
I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second in<br>
command" after Linus Torvalds himself"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it exists<br>
today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work over the years<br>
in order to function.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE MUST<br>
organise this to work around central Swansea locations.<br>
<br>
My concern is if you start biasing it away from people without<br>
transport then we might find that the Hackspace itself is placed at<br>
an inaccessible location<br>
<br>
and that it will fail as a result.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Please please can we not assume that everyone has car transport and<br>
arrange things near motorways so that those with cars and not<br>
inconvenienced for a few minutes extra driving and those without<br>
cars have to spend an hour more travelling because of the vagaries<br>
of the transport system or are put off because they<br>
<br>
don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30<br>
<br>
<br>
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Neil<br>
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