<p>Delay is ok with me too,<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 11, 2013 3:08 PM, "Tim Moore" <<a href="mailto:timmoore47@gmail.com">timmoore47@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
My wife is ill so delaying it is ok with me, as I can't come.<br><br>May I suggest that no location is going to suit everyone so arranging lifts for any who is struggling ought to be on the agenda for these discussions.<br>
<br>This means that no one is excluded from attending the startup meeting.<br><br>Tim, <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 March 2013 14:48, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hackspace-request@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace-request@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:24:30 +0000<br>
From: Gerrit Niezen <<a href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com" target="_blank">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
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Is anyone still planning on meeting up tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or shall we rather postpone the first meetup until we can find a more suitable location?<br>
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On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Nope, Monday is their quiz night<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
> Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000<br>
><br>
> I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless anyone lives near by? :)<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a><br>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000<br>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
><br>
> Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually seem fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can tether I'm sure.<br>
><br>
> Dan<br>
><br>
> On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's a better fit for people's transport needs.<br>
><br>
> I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday or already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town centre)<br>
><br>
> It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing stopping us having several all over town to give everyone a chance to meet up and get to know each other before we do any real planning, I don't see that it would spell disaster if we can't all make the first one....it's hard to pick a universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com" target="_blank">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that was made - if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)<br>
><br>
> On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:<br>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000<br>
> Dan Craggs <<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?<br>
> Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes<br>
> from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that<br>
> I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).<br>
><br>
> I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)<br>
><br>
> Alan<br>
><br>
> I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the meeting at such a crazily inaccessible location.<br>
> It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to NEATH.<br>
><br>
> Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the Open Source movement and who would be an asset to<br>
> the group cannot attend! <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox</a><br>
> I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second in command" afterLinus Torvalds himself"<br>
><br>
> This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it exists today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work over the years in order to function.<br>
><br>
> I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE MUST organise this to work around central Swansea locations.<br>
> My concern is if you start biasing it away from people without transport then we might find that the Hackspace itself is placed at an inaccessible location<br>
> and that it will fail as a result.<br>
><br>
> Please please can we not assume that everyone has car transport and arrange things near motorways so that those with cars and not inconvenienced for a few minutes extra driving and those without cars have to spend an hour more travelling because of the vagaries of the transport system or are put off because they<br>
> don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.<br>
><br>
> I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30<br>
><br>
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:48:19 +0000<br>
From: Tim Clark <<a href="mailto:eclipse@sucs.org" target="_blank">eclipse@sucs.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
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I was thinking about it, however having talked to various people who<br>
were interested all of them are not going due to its location, so<br>
postponing till we can find a better location might be a sensible idea.<br>
If only 2 or 3 people are able to make it i suspect there isn't much<br>
point. Who else is defiantly able to go?<br>
<br>
Tim<br>
On 11/03/2013 14:24, Gerrit Niezen wrote:<br>
> Is anyone still planning on meeting up tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or<br>
> shall we rather postpone the first meetup until we can find a more<br>
> suitable location?<br>
><br>
> On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Nope, Monday is their quiz night<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>><br>
>> Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
>> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000<br>
>><br>
>> I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless<br>
>> anyone lives near by? :)<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000<br>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually<br>
>> seem fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can<br>
>> tether I'm sure.<br>
>><br>
>> Dan<br>
>><br>
>> On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C<<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a<br>
>> suggestion and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's<br>
>> a better fit for people's transport needs.<br>
>><br>
>> I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday<br>
>> or already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town<br>
>> centre)<br>
>><br>
>> It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing<br>
>> stopping us having several all over town to give everyone a<br>
>> chance to meet up and get to know each other before we do any<br>
>> real planning, I don't see that it would spell disaster if we<br>
>> can't all make the first one....it's hard to pick a<br>
>> universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> <a href="mailto:From%3Agerrit.niezen@gmail.com" target="_blank">From:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com" target="_blank">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
>> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000<br>
>> <a href="mailto:To%3Ahackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">To:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just<br>
>> because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that<br>
>> was made - if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)<br>
>><br>
>> On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000<br>
>> Dan Craggs<<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?<br>
>><br>
>> Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes<br>
>> from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that<br>
>> I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).<br>
>><br>
>> I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)<br>
>><br>
>> Alan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the<br>
>> meeting at such a crazily inaccessible location.<br>
>> It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to<br>
>> NEATH.<br>
>><br>
>> Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the<br>
>> Open Source movement and who would be an asset to<br>
>> the group cannot attend!<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox</a><br>
>> I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second<br>
>> in command" afterLinus Torvalds<br>
>> <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds</a>>himself"<br>
>><br>
>> This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it<br>
>> exists today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work<br>
>> over the years in order to function.<br>
>><br>
>> I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE<br>
>> MUST organise this to work around central Swansea locations.<br>
>> My concern is if you start biasing it away from people<br>
>> without transport then we might find that the Hackspace<br>
>> itself is placed at an inaccessible location<br>
>> and that it will fail as a result.<br>
>><br>
>> Please please can we not assume that everyone has car<br>
>> transport and arrange things near motorways so that those<br>
>> with cars and not inconvenienced for a few minutes extra<br>
>> driving and those without cars have to spend an hour more<br>
>> travelling because of the vagaries of the transport system or<br>
>> are put off because they<br>
>> don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.<br>
>><br>
>> I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30<br>
>><br>
>> Neil<br>
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