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    I was thinking about it, however having talked to various people who
    were interested all of them are not going due to its location, so
    postponing till we can find a better location might be a sensible
    idea. If only 2 or 3 people are able to make it i suspect there
    isn't much point. Who else is defiantly able to go?<br>
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    Tim<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/03/2013 14:24, Gerrit Niezen
      wrote:<br>
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      <base href="x-msg://3193/">Is anyone still planning on meeting up
      tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or shall we rather postpone the first
      meetup until we can find a more suitable location?
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          <div>On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>>
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              <div dir="ltr">Nope, Monday is their quiz night<br>
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                  <hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a><br>
                  To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
                  Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet
                  11March<br>
                  Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by
                    tomorrow after work, unless anyone lives near by? :)<br>
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                      <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com">dancraggs@gmail.com</a><br>
                      Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000<br>
                      Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first
                      meet 11March<br>
                      To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
                      <br>
                      Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in
                      Brynmill? They usually seem fine with little
                      gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can
                      tether I'm sure.<br>
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                      Dan<br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 7 March 2013 15:11,
                        J C<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                          dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jc2k_1@hotmail.com"
                            target="_blank">jc2k_1@hotmail.com</a>></span><span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">No I certainly don't want to
                              exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion
                              and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere
                              if there's a better fit for people's
                              transport needs.
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                              <div>I did ask at a few places but others
                                were either closed on Monday or already
                                had events on (and I don't know that
                                many pubs in town centre)</div>
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                              <div>It's just an informal meet &
                                greet anyway, there's nothing stopping
                                us having several all over town to give
                                everyone a chance to meet up and get to
                                know each other before we do any real
                                planning, I don't see that it would
                                spell disaster if we can't all make the
                                first one....it's hard to pick a
                                universally convenient spot without
                                knowing where everyone lives.</div>
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                                  <hr>From:<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:gerrit.niezen@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">gerrit.niezen@gmail.com</a><br>
                                  Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace]
                                  Hackspace first meet 11March<br>
                                  Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000<br>
                                  To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
                                    target="_blank">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>
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                                      I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt
                                      excluded from the meeting just
                                      because of the location. It was
                                      just the first suggestion that was
                                      made - if anybody has a better
                                      alternative, let's hear it! :) 
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                                          <div>On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59,
                                            Neil Jones <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk"
                                              target="_blank">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>>
                                            wrote:</div>
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                                              <div>On 06/03/2013 20:24,
                                                Alan Cox wrote:<br>
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                                                <pre>On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000
Dan Craggs <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dancraggs@gmail.com" target="_blank"><dancraggs@gmail.com></a> wrote:

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                                                  <pre>Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?
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                                                <pre>Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes
from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that
I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).

I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)

Alan
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                                              I must protest strongly at
                                              the SILLY decision to hold
                                              the meeting at such  a
                                              crazily inaccessible
                                              location.<br>
                                              It isn't in Swansea proper
                                              but as the name says HALF
                                              WAY to NEATH.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Now we find that Alan Cox
                                              who is a world famous
                                              figure in the Open Source
                                              movement  and who would be
                                              an asset to<br>
                                              the group cannot attend!<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox"
                                                target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox</a><br>
                                              I quote "He was once
                                              commonly regarded as being
                                              the "second in command"
                                              after<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds"
                                                title="Linus Torvalds"
                                                target="_blank">Linus
                                                Torvalds</a><span
                                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>himself"<br>
                                              <br>
                                              This means, to put it
                                              clearly, that the modern
                                              internet as it exists
                                              today, google etc. Is
                                              crucially reliant on his
                                              work over the years in
                                              order to function.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              I myself am doubtful about
                                              it because of the poor
                                              access. WE MUST organise
                                              this to work around
                                              central Swansea locations.<br>
                                              My concern is if you start
                                              biasing it away from
                                              people without transport
                                              then we might find that
                                              the Hackspace itself is
                                              placed at an inaccessible
                                              location<br>
                                              and that it will fail as a
                                              result.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Please please can we not
                                              assume that everyone has
                                              car transport and arrange
                                              things near motorways so
                                              that those with cars and
                                              not inconvenienced for a
                                              few minutes extra driving
                                              and those without cars
                                              have to spend an hour more
                                              travelling because of the
                                              vagaries of the transport
                                              system or are put off
                                              because they<br>
                                              don't want to be
                                              travelling back on late
                                              buses full of drunks.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              I myself live in Neath and
                                              the last train is at
                                              around 10:30<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Neil<br>
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                      D a n  C r a g g s<br>
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                      e:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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                        target="_blank">dancraggs@gmail.com</a><br>
                      e:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:dan@gfsoft.co.uk" target="_blank">dan@gfsoft.co.uk</a><br>
                      w:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://danc.me.uk"
                        target="_blank">http://danc.me.uk</a><br>
                      w:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.plandmusic.co.uk"
                        target="_blank">http://www.plandmusic.co.uk</a><br>
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