<p>Is this list publicly viewable? If we're concerned about prying eyes then perhaps it shouldn't be.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 24, 2013 12:34 AM, "Neil Jones" <<a href="mailto:neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk">neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 23/03/2013 20:45, Tom Lloyd wrote:<br>
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Haha, what did I say? Cwmbwrla! I don't know anything about it
beyond where it is; is it still occupied?<br>
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I guess we need to consider security too. Wherever we choose, if
we keep tools there it could become a target for thieves. Do
other hackspaces have problems with this?<br>
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-- Tom<br>
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Hang on! You can't just rent premises used for one thing at the
moment and turn it into a hackspace.<br>
You may need planning permission for the change of use
<a href="http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/changeofuse/" target="_blank">http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/changeofuse/</a><br>
When there are planning applications neighbours are consulted. This
is why we should have a closed list that is not internet searchable.<br>
Since we are not going to create any more noise and disturbance than
a normal person quietly living at home, I can't see a problem<br>
I am not the planning officer who decides on these matters though.
It is quite likely that an ideal place would need change of use
permission.<br>
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The moment anyone posts a message about a particular place we are
open to misguided planning objections which could jeopardise the
project.<br>
We are going to find ourselves discussing legal matters, in effect.
It is not wise to do so in public!<br>
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Neil<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 20:39, ceri clatworthy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ceri.clatworthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceri.clatworthy@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<p>I have been told about Swansea friends of the disabled, <br>
Just Swansea side of camathen road,<br>
Next door to carpet shop,<br>
And it is main bus route as well.<br>
Pub, three sisters across road,</p>
<p>Cheers<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Ceri</font></span></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 23, 2013 8:35 PM, "Tom
Lloyd" <<a href="mailto:napalmllama@gmail.com" target="_blank">napalmllama@gmail.com</a>>
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I suspect that any potential retail space would charge
a premium. We want somewhere just out of town, nearby
but off the beaten track - perhaps a former garage or
small factory or studio? Cwmdu/Cwmbwrla might be a
good area to start looking.<br>
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Obviously if we can convince either university to make
room for us at reduced cost then that would be ideal.
Is anybody in a good position to make enquiries at the
Met?<br>
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-- Tom<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2013 20:24,
Justin Mitchell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@discordia.org.uk" target="_blank">justin@discordia.org.uk</a>></span>
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<div>On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 18:08 +0000, Neil Jones
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> There is a possible item of "where roughly
should we be aiming to have<br>
> the hackspace."<br>
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My thoughts and discussions on this subject so far
are that it needs to<br>
be somewhere fairly central, in the SA2 or SA1
region.<br>
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The majority of industrial unit type spaces seem
to be a fair way out of<br>
town, llansamlet area or further, now whilst they
are nice big spaces<br>
with good parking they pretty much suck for public
transport access,<br>
especially out of business hours.<br>
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I think that if we are to attract the widest range
of members then that<br>
is highly likely to include those to which
transport is an issue.<br>
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>From searching the council provided listings
(as someone already listed<br>
on here) there are a number of shop units and
small office spaces around<br>
the town, in areas like sandfields, brynmill,
walter road type areas<br>
which are relatively cheap and close to busy bus
routes and other<br>
amenities.<br>
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As for funding, well that's going to depend
heavily on how many people<br>
are likely to be able to commit to paying a
membership, and how much it<br>
costs to rent a suitably sized space.<br>
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I believe that a contingent in the university that
are on this list have<br>
investigated if there is any space available
there, which may well have<br>
come cheaply, but i don't think there was any
success so far ?<br>
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Re: tools etc, i had hoped to get a feeling for
this with my initial<br>
statement of what people expected from a
hackspace, i didnt get many<br>
responses, perhaps those that havent yet done so
could take a moment to<br>
share with us their expectations or aspirations.<br>
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