<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Hi Tom </div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><span style="font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><a href="https://sucs.org/~tlloyd87/hackspace/r2/swan-concept.png">https://sucs.org/~tlloyd87/hackspace/r2/swan-concept.png</a></span></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">I think this one is great! They are all really good. Personally, I think logos that are too literal leave to little to the imagination and can be uninspiring (although there is a reasonable limit to that), so for me the style of the logo above is lovely.</span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">One word of caution though, with all the designs is that they may lose their detail and impact once shrunk down to a letterhead or leaflet size or as a twitter logo.</span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">A good test is always to put it up against other well recognised and/or competing logos on the same page. That way you can see how well it would stand out.</span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Cheers</span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Paul<br></span></font><br><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Sent from my iPad</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br>On 7 Apr 2013, at 18:06, Tom Lloyd <<a href="mailto:napalmllama@gmail.com">napalmllama@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hello again,<br><br></div>I've produced the next batch of logos. They're all variations on the "Hackspace H" design, as that seems to be the most popular.<br><br>Find them here: <a href="https://sucs.org/~tlloyd87/hackspace/r2/">https://sucs.org/~tlloyd87/hackspace/r2/</a><br>
<br></div>Of particular interest may be a design loosely based on the Welsh flag, a copper-themed one, and an experimental design incorporating the outline of a swan. Thanks to Neil for these ideas. The rest are all the same, just with different colour combinations.<br>
<br></div>Again, these are all work-in-progress, so please let me know what you think! The more opinions I hear, the better the finished logo will represent the group.<br><br></div>All the best,<br></div>Tom :)<br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 April 2013 13:59, Tom Lloyd <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:napalmllama@gmail.com" target="_blank">napalmllama@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>That is helpful, thankyou. I'll have a play with those ideas and see what happens. The idea of a red H on a green/white background had occurred to me - although I'd feel a bit funny about designing it, as I'm English :) I think if we wanted to, we could take a Welsh flag inspired design for our own, as Cardiff haven't and I don't think there any other Welsh cities big enough to support a hackspace. Carpe draco, if you will.<br>
<br></div>I've got a big page of corporate logo designs open in a tab somewhere that I was going to look at for inspiration, so I'll add the Copper Quarter stuff to that.<br><br></div>Thanks for your input, you've given me a bit to think about :)<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br></font></span></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- Tom<br></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 April 2013 08:01, Carter N. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:N.Carter@swansea.ac.uk" target="_blank">N.Carter@swansea.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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>When I was brainstorming ideas I tried to think of<br>
> something that would say "Swansea", but nothing came to mind. <br>
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Thanks for your enthusiastic and talented efforts in this. Contrary to your comment that nothing came to mind, I notice that you have the outline of a swan on your mood board! My impression was that the curve of the soldering iron cable and/or that of the claw hammer might be adapted into a swan neck (don't ask me how to do that; I'm useless at graphical design ;-). You obvously have an ability for this sort of thing, so I'll leave this thought in your capable mind :-)<br>
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Not sure if featuring Wales (dragon, green and white horizontal stripes with red foreground) would be specific enough.<br>
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Hmm, come to think of it, there's a major urban restoration project going on just north of the city, relating to the old copper works that were there. "Cu Swansea" I think it's called. Given copper's fundamental link with hacking, one might find inspiration in the restoration project's artwork and materials.<br>
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I hope this is helpful.<br>
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Best wishes,<br>
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Neil<br>
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