Quote 'It would be nice to hear
some suggestions of things we could try in<font size="5"> <font>future workshops.</font></font><font>
</font>'<br><br>I'd vote for Pic A/D experiment and we had logic 0 to 5/3.3V example on the very enjoyable recent meeting. The same 12F1840 has A/D capability (?).<br><br>Given that 2 hours seems comfortable for all concerned the learning curve on getting the computer and hardware going will take less time, so more time for experimenting.<br>
<br>: ))<br><br>Tim_1<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 June 2013 11:26, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hackspace-request@swansea.hackspace.org.uk" target="_blank">hackspace-request@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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From: Tim Moore <<a href="mailto:timmoore47@gmail.com">timmoore47@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7<br>
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Brilliant ! Just order 2 of them ! now similar problem:-<br>
<br>
Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"<br>
<br>
so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from China?<br>
<br>
the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the price.<br>
<br>
I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to configure/use<br>
use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex file from with the<br>
IDE.<br>
<br>
I'll build the circuit first.<br>
<br>
Many thanks for your support !<br>
<br>
: )))<br>
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Tim_1<br>
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> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6<br>
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> Most constructive event last night ! In every sense of the word ! *LOL*<br>
><br>
> Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.<br>
><br>
> I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb gizmo’s<br>
> that were needed.<br>
><br>
> 1_ the usb to +5V adapter and<br>
><br>
> 2_ the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.<br>
><br>
> Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get them ?<br>
><br>
> Not knowing what they are called has resulted in viewing several thousand<br>
> mobile phone adapters *LOL*<br>
><br>
> : ))<br>
><br>
> Tim_1<br>
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> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5<br>
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> > Tim_1<br>
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> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] [Announce] 3rd Technical Meeting - Mon<br>
> > > 17th June<br>
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> > > Introduction to PIC workshop<br>
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> > > This meeting will be a hands on introduction to the PIC<br>
> microcontroller,<br>
> > > giving you all the chance to build a simple circuit and program the<br>
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> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] DMX512<br>
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> <a href="http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/notebook/dmx512/" target="_blank">http://mbed.org/users/okini3939/notebook/dmx512/</a><br>
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> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6<br>
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> On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 13:29 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:<br>
> > Most constructive event last night ! In every sense of the word !<br>
> > *LOL*<br>
> ><br>
> > Busy downloading the Linux version of the software needed.<br>
> ><br>
> > I've got a couple of 12F1840 on order but got stuck on the two usb<br>
> > gizmo’s that were needed.<br>
> ><br>
> > 1_ the usb to +5V adapter and<br>
> ><br>
> > 2_ the MPLAB to breadboard programming tool.<br>
> ><br>
> > Anyone got any thoughts on an Ebay (or anywhere else) link to get<br>
> > them ?<br>
><br>
> The usb-serial port that we were abusing for power is a PL2303HX<br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090000590" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090000590</a><br>
><br>
> The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2<br>
> Official ones can be quite expensive, but there are many cheap clone<br>
> versions that work just the same.<br>
><br>
> The cheapest ones i see on ebay come from china, so expect a couple of<br>
> weeks lead time on those.<br>
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:46:06 +0100<br>
From: Justin Mitchell <<a href="mailto:justin@discordia.org.uk">justin@discordia.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7<br>
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On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 12:21 +0100, Tim Moore wrote:<br>
> Quote "The Programming device i was using was a PICkit 2"<br>
><br>
> so what do I search for on Ebay to locate a cheapie version from<br>
> China?<br>
><br>
> the Farnell is is at least available but if China do one at half the<br>
> price.<br>
<br>
'pickit 2 clone' i see one for ÂŁ11.66<br>
<br>
or get a 'pickit 3' if you want better features.<br>
<br>
<br>
> I got the software running on another laptop, not sure how to<br>
> configure/use use it and I assume I enter the 'C' code and make a hex<br>
> file from with the IDE.<br>
<br>
The handout went through all the steps for writing the software, other<br>
than the (hopefuly obvious) step of clicking 'build'<br>
<br>
the reason i was using the hex file is that the pickit 2 driver thats<br>
built into mplab doesn't believe it can talk to a 12F1840, but the stand<br>
alone (seperate download) one does.<br>
<br>
mplab believes you need a pickit 3 for that device, but they may well<br>
update the software eventually.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:26:47 +0100<br>
From: Justin Mitchell <<a href="mailto:justin@discordia.org.uk">justin@discordia.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] followup to 3rd technical meeting<br>
workshop<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk">hackspace@swansea.hackspace.org.uk</a><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1371724007.18672.10.camel@quartz.geode.org.uk">1371724007.18672.10.camel@quartz.geode.org.uk</a>><br>
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I have just updated the website with a copy of the pic workshop handout,<br>
now updated to include bugfixes, and a circuit diagram.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/meetings/20130617.html" target="_blank">http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/meetings/20130617.html</a><br>
<br>
I learnt a lot about holding workshops, and i hope some of you got a<br>
useful taste of how simple it can be to create circuits controlled by<br>
software running on cheap micro-controllers.<br>
<br>
It would be nice to hear some suggestions of things we could try in<br>
future workshops.<br>
<br>
I have a variety of sensors and devices that i have plans and ideas<br>
around, the USB-Serial ports you saw at the workshop, dallas 1-wire<br>
temperature sensors, the ws2811 based LED strip lights, and some newly<br>
arrived 6-axis accelerometer/gyro sensors.<br>
<br>
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