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<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tbh it’s more like assembly required than a “kit” in this case. The kits you see on eBay for £160 are projects. The prusa MK3 is a tool and is rather straight forward to assemble.</span>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It’s also a question of the printers feature set, the mk3 has a very sophisticated setup for high standard in reliability and accuracy. </span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The
only machine I could recommend as an out of the box RTR would be the wanhao i3 plus but it lacks many features like software levelling, anti stm skipping, blocked nozzle protection, etc.</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My most recent machine (a mylan m150) recently failed when a dodgy connector caused too much resistance and ended up getting hot and melting the connector. Something I feel wouldn’t likely happen
with an MK3 but may with a wanhao i3. </span></div>
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Prusa do a complete pre-assembled version as well as the kit version (It's a couple of hundred quid more though), however, when I built my Mk2 it was one of the most pleasant kits I've ever built. The instructions where better than modern Ikea instructions,
it even came with the tools you needed.<br>
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I'm not sure you can make 3d printing a 100% easy thing by just chucking a good printer in the room. Really it'll need a couple of people who are willing to consistently put an evening in to teach how to model in 3d (the software for which puts me off some
days), how to use a slicer, how to use the machine and to expect spaghetti on occasion and how to troubleshoot that.<br>
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So I'm not sure you can make it "easy" for everyone, but you can make it easily approachable.<br>
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I'm not sure if that helps or hinders?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 12 March 2018 at 11:23, Tim Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eclipse@sucs.org" target="_blank">eclipse@sucs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p>I worry that anything that describes itself as a kit doesn't meet the fundamental brief of "Tool not Project", when was the last time you had to put the plug on your new drill, or glue the handle on your new screwdriver?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 12 Mar 2018 11:07 a.m., "Sophia Komninou" <<a href="mailto:sophia.komninou@gmail.com" target="_blank">sophia.komninou@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div>I would like to stay for a second to the " <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">
kit more likely as it's a hackspace after all" and remind to whoever will get more involved with the decision making that hackspace has a diverse membership and not just computer savvy members. It is also my understanding that this diversity is one of the points
we are trying to promote as a "place for </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><b>all</b></span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">
people who like to make stuff". Further, I remember Matt saying at the AGM that what they did in Reading was to "make things as simple as possible" in order to engage more people and create a community. Therefore, how a kit is going to achieve that (unless
I guess after assembled works very very simply). </span></div>
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someone who is not as savvy with the traditional hackspace activities, I would personally want to see a non-intimidating looking 3D printer to be encouraged to try using it. </span></div>
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guess I do get a bit cranky with things like that but I thought I should give my perspective regardless...</span></div>
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</span>Why don't you just bring it in anyway? It wouldn't be the first time someone has brought a 3d printer in to show others. Even if we weren't looking at getting a new one it would be interesting for others to see. It is a cool piece of kit.<span class="m_-2716499818286525578m_-482613697231454275HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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