<div dir="ltr">Agree with Tim. The hackspace already has printers that are projects.<br>If we want something that "just works", it would be wise to avoid the options where "some assembly is required."</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 March 2018 at 11:23, Tim Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eclipse@sucs.org" target="_blank">eclipse@sucs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I worry that anything that describes itself as a kit doesn't meet
      the fundamental brief of "Tool not Project", when was the last
      time you had to put the plug on your new drill, or glue the handle
      on your new screwdriver?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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    <p>Tim<br>
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    <div class="m_4261584793563538146moz-cite-prefix">On 12/03/2018 11:19, Alex Duffield
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      <div dir="auto">How are you at Lego Sophia? That's the level of
        the assembly instructions</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 Mar 2018 11:07 a.m., "Sophia
          Komninou" <<a href="mailto:sophia.komninou@gmail.com" target="_blank">sophia.komninou@gmail.com</a>>
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            <div dir="ltr">I would like to offer my opinion as someone
              with no prior experience with 3D printers. 
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              <div>I would like to stay for a second to the " <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">kit
                  more likely as it's a hackspace after all" and remind
                  to whoever will get more involved with the decision
                  making that hackspace has a diverse membership and not
                  just computer savvy members. It is also my
                  understanding that this diversity is one of the points
                  we are trying to promote as a "place for </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><b>all</b></span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">
                  people who like to make stuff". Further, I remember
                  Matt saying at the AGM that what they did in Reading
                  was to "make things as simple as possible" in order to
                  engage more people and create a community. Therefore,
                  how a kit is going to achieve that (unless I guess
                  after assembled works very very simply). </span></div>
              <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
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              <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">As
                  someone who is not as savvy with the traditional
                  hackspace activities, I would personally want to see a
                  non-intimidating looking 3D printer to be encouraged
                  to try using it. </span></div>
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              <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I
                  guess I do get a bit cranky with things like that but
                  I thought I should give my perspective regardless...</span></div>
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              <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Sophia</span></div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-12 9:09 GMT+00:00 Neil
                Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neil@aurinia.co.uk" target="_blank">neil@aurinia.co.uk</a>></span>:<br>
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                    On 12/03/18 01:14, Alex Duffield wrote:<br>
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                      Best bet is hands on experience, I can bring it
                      tomorrow if you like, bringing my signal generator
                      so taking a bus anyway<br>
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                  Why don't you just bring it in anyway? It wouldn't be
                  the first time someone has brought a 3d printer in to
                  show others. Even if we weren't looking at getting a
                  new one it would be interesting for others to see. It
                  is a cool piece of kit.<span class="m_4261584793563538146m_-482613697231454275HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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                      Neil</font></span>
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