[Swansea Hackspace] What next

[Neil Jones]

On 23/03/2013 20:45, Tom Lloyd wrote:
> Haha, what did I say?  Cwmbwrla!  I don't know anything about it 
> beyond where it is; is it still occupied?
>
> I guess we need to consider security too.  Wherever we choose, if we 
> keep tools there it could become a target for thieves.  Do other 
> hackspaces have problems with this?
>
> -- Tom
Hang on! You can't just rent premises used for one thing at the moment 
and turn it into a hackspace.
You may need planning permission for the change of use 
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/changeofuse/
When there are planning applications neighbours are consulted. This is 
why we should have a closed list that is not internet searchable.
Since we are not going to create any more noise and disturbance than a 
normal person quietly living at home, I can't see a problem
I am not the planning officer who decides on these matters though. It is 
quite likely that an ideal place would need change of use permission.

The moment anyone posts a message about a particular place we are open 
to misguided planning objections which could jeopardise the project.
We are going to find ourselves discussing legal matters, in effect. It 
is not wise to do so in public!

Neil




>
> On 23 March 2013 20:39, ceri clatworthy <ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com 
> <mailto:ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have been told about Swansea friends of the disabled,
>     Just Swansea side of camathen road,
>     Next door to carpet shop,
>     And it is main bus route as well.
>     Pub, three sisters across road,
>
>     Cheers
>     Ceri
>
>     On Mar 23, 2013 8:35 PM, "Tom Lloyd" <napalmllama at gmail.com
>     <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         I suspect that any potential retail space would charge a
>         premium.  We want somewhere just out of town, nearby but off
>         the beaten track - perhaps a former garage or small factory or
>         studio?  Cwmdu/Cwmbwrla might be a good area to start looking.
>
>         Obviously if we can convince either university to make room
>         for us at reduced cost then that would be ideal. Is anybody in
>         a good position to make enquiries at the Met?
>
>         -- Tom
>
>         On 23 March 2013 20:24, Justin Mitchell
>         <justin at discordia.org.uk <mailto:justin at discordia.org.uk>> wrote:
>
>             On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 18:08 +0000, Neil Jones wrote:
>
>             > There is a possible item of "where roughly should we be
>             aiming to have
>             > the hackspace."
>
>             My thoughts and discussions on this subject so far are
>             that it needs to
>             be somewhere fairly central, in the SA2 or SA1 region.
>
>             The majority of industrial unit type spaces seem to be a
>             fair way out of
>             town, llansamlet area or further, now whilst they are nice
>             big spaces
>             with good parking they pretty much suck for public
>             transport access,
>             especially out of business hours.
>
>             I think that if we are to attract the widest range of
>             members then that
>             is highly likely to include those to which transport is an
>             issue.
>
>             >From searching the council provided listings (as someone
>             already listed
>             on here) there are a number of shop units and small office
>             spaces around
>             the town, in areas like sandfields, brynmill, walter road
>             type areas
>             which are relatively cheap and close to busy bus routes
>             and other
>             amenities.
>
>             As for funding, well that's going to depend heavily on how
>             many people
>             are likely to be able to commit to paying a membership,
>             and how much it
>             costs to rent a suitably sized space.
>
>             I believe that a contingent in the university that are on
>             this list have
>             investigated if there is any space available there, which
>             may well have
>             come cheaply, but i don't think there was any success so far ?
>
>             Re: tools etc, i had hoped to get a feeling for this with
>             my initial
>             statement of what people expected from a hackspace, i
>             didnt get many
>             responses, perhaps those that havent yet done so could
>             take a moment to
>             share with us their expectations or aspirations.
>
>
>
>
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