[Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero

Neil Jones neil at aurinia.co.uk
Sat Nov 28 16:10:09 GMT 2015



On 27/11/15 01:14, S Wathan wrote:
>
> The magazine itself can be download for free from the website, I 
> downloaded it today. So its just a case for stockist to get the board 
> back in and not paying the £30 plus people are paying on ebay
>
That is a very sensible way of looking at it Sarah.

There is always someone with money to waste who will pay these silly 
prices. As you say the magazine is available free and has some really 
good articles in there.
I like the idea of an electronic conference badge that they suggest. I 
could think of a very good use for one of those for a conference I attend.
It would make a point to the charity organising it about the use of the 
internet that I have been suggesting for years and I could write it on 
the badge.
My suggestions would work on a Pi Zero too.
All I need now is a small pocket keyboard solution to program it / 
change its settings on the go. It would be nice to be able to put video 
on it too if that is possible.

The PI Zero ways just NINE GRAMS. That is half a gram lighter than a 
pound coin!

Incidentally there are examples of the magazine on ebay for £45 £49 and 
£89. There was one at £99 the other day.
There is something cool though about giving away a computer on the front 
of a magazine.

Neil

> On 27 Nov 2015 00:14, "David Davies-Day" <djdavies83 at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Oooh, I really shouldn't have kicked off the puns.
>
>     When I rang WH Smith (Swansea quadrant), the lady said I was about
>     the 20th person to phone in and that they won't be getting anymore.
>
>     Looking at the Pi blog, the Zero is made here in Wales.
>
>     https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
>
>     WARNING, LONG RAMBLE APPROACHING: short version bear the end.
>
>
>     Now that I work in the PCB assembly environment, I can fully
>     appreciate exactly how they am have got the cost down on this one.
>     I would imagine they would be manufactured in panels of 8, they
>     would go through a screen printer to add the solder paste, pass
>     through the pick and place machine (Mydata19 for example), then
>     the reflow oven. That's the assembly complete, into the Automatic
>     Optical Inspection machine to check for solder bridges, dry
>     joints,  miss aligned compnents etc, if it passes AOI and there
>     are no though hole components there would not be a manual
>     inspection, maybe a quick system check (but I doubt it), that's it
>     off to packing!
>
>     Now, if they were to have populated that 40 pin header, it woukd
>     have been hand placed and sent over a wave solder machine, before
>     that though, the 4 mounting holes and any other hales or pads that
>     should not tmbe soldered would need to be manually masked using
>     Kapton tape.
>
>     After another person takes a full rack of header populated boards,
>     puts then through the wave machine/solder bath, another person
>     would remove the tape and debug any dry joints or solder bridges,
>     re-seat any raised components,  fit any missing ones or ones that
>     cannot go through a wave machine, the solder side would be washed
>     with a safe liquid solution, manual inspection, then it's packaging.
>
>     If a manufacture,  paying UK wages were to make any profit, they
>     would have to charge their customer 3-4 the hourly the amount of a
>     UK national minimum wage person.
>
>     (HERE'S THE SHORT OF IT)
>
>     In short, by using the smallest component so possibly, e.g. the
>     micro USB, mini HDMI etc the board can be shrunk to its smallest
>     to allow a greater number of boards to be SMD populated and flowed
>     in on pass, leaving the 40 way through holes pads unpopulated for
>     the end customer to do what they want with cuts a out a huge chuck
>     of extra assembly time.
>
>     Ramble over. :-)
>
>     The attached image shows the connections, really please to see the
>     Pi Zero still has Composite video out, even if I will have to
>     populate it with a connector.
>
>     The sets that include cable are good value, but as a have mini
>     HDMI cable for my android boxes and MICRO USB OTG cables for my
>     phone, I imagine they will work with the Zero, I don't really need
>     a bundle, but I may get one to know I have new set that will be
>     reliable.
>
>     Emry, did you see the Chip Computer I sent an email about back
>     when the kickstarter campaign was running?
>
>     The $9, now $8 computer has the same 1Ghz, 512ram as the Zero, but
>     has built in wifi, blue tooth AND 4Gb of on board storage, HDMI
>     shield is an extra, it does come with the Composite cable as standard.
>
>     http://mobile.geek.com/latest/258638-chip-computer-drops-price-to-8-dollars-raspberry-pi-zero-immediately-steals-its-thunder?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
>
>     Well, time to sleep, and dream of getting a Zero.
>
>     No animals were harmed in the making of this email. However,
>     several thousand electrons were severely inconvenienced.
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Neil Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk <mailto:neil at aurinia.co.uk>>
>     Date:26/11/2015 20:53 (GMT+00:00)
>     To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>     Cc:
>     Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Raspberry Pi Zero
>
>
>
>     On 26/11/15 20:21, Alan Cox wrote:
>     > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:41:05 +0000
>     > David Davies-Day <djdavies83 at hotmail.com
>     <mailto:djdavies83 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> It's a wash out!
>     >>
>     >> WH Smith sold out almost as soon as they went in sale, despite
>     what the website says about Asda, Sainsbury and Tesco, non of them
>     have it on their systems, let alone their shelves.
>     >>
>     >> Two copies of issue 40 have appeared on ebay (both currently
>     over £21 ) in the last two hours, also a Pi Zero on its own
>     currently at £7.50.
>     >>
>     >> Raspberry Pi's Twitter feed has commented how they can't
>     believe their issue 40 is on ebay.
>     >>
>     >> This is complete Pi-demonium! as Emyr mentioned, most local
>     newsagents should be able to get them, I've asked mine for a copy.
>     > You'll just have to Pi-ne for one for a little while. I'm sure
>     they'll be
>     > flooding out soon, after all they are still made in Bridgend
>     aren't they
>     > - so it's not a crates from China job.
>     >
>     > Alan
>     Oh dear your puns are worse than mine :-)
>     I agree with Alan basically. They will be available soon. I would
>     have
>     liked to get a magazine and I am going to see if one can be obtained.
>     There is one up to 30 quid on ebay now! I am not paying that! I do
>     think
>     the original link that Justin sent us, where they have sold out, is a
>     good deal because you need adapters to get one working unless you
>     have
>     them lying around, which I don't
>     The magazine at its shop price is a bargain, but my research says
>     there
>     will be more  Pi Zeros available at the end of December.
>
>     People have suggested that "newsagents" can order the magazine? Well
>     I'll need to look around. I know of lots of shops that sell a few
>     papers
>     and magazines but they tend to be general shops that sell a bit of
>     everything these days. They didn't suggest when I asked in my WHSmith
>     that they could order it. I would guess they would be better at it
>     if I
>     were to ask. What do others think?
>
>     Good heavens! They are now giving away computers with magazines
>     and the
>     PI is now as cheap as an Arduino!
>
>     Neil
>
>
>
>
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