[Swansea Hackspace] 3d printer
Justin Mitchell
justin at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
Mon Mar 12 11:45:50 GMT 2018
It's not the requirement to put it together that bothers me, i built
the RepRapPro we have, and we can find people to do that no problem.
It's more the implication that as a kit it will inevitably need
tweaking, adjusting, or otherwise frobbing with on a continual basis.
If we can be reasonably assured that this will not be the case, that
once built it will then "just work" and be reasonably user friendly
then perhaps it would be acceptable.
but "it comes as a kit" has a LOT of that stigma attached that needs to
be overcome.
On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 11:38 +0000, Joseph Bhart wrote:
> That makes sense. 3d printing does by its nature lie closer to the
> "project" end of the spectrum anyway.
>
> I've only had experience with printer kits on the RepRap side of
> things, which is on a whole other level. So at the end of the day it
> comes down to what the society values more: Putting a (apparently
> simple) kit together, or buying a fully assembled version (but still
> having to set it up and get it working)
>
> On 12 March 2018 at 11:31, Matthew Daubney <matt at daubers.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > I'm gonna stick my head above the parapet on a couple of things
> > here...
> >
> > Prusa do a complete pre-assembled version as well as the kit
> > version (It's a couple of hundred quid more though), however, when
> > I built my Mk2 it was one of the most pleasant kits I've ever
> > built. The instructions where better than modern Ikea instructions,
> > it even came with the tools you needed.
> >
> > That aside!
> >
> > I'm not sure you can make 3d printing a 100% easy thing by just
> > chucking a good printer in the room. Really it'll need a couple of
> > people who are willing to consistently put an evening in to teach
> > how to model in 3d (the software for which puts me off some days),
> > how to use a slicer, how to use the machine and to expect spaghetti
> > on occasion and how to troubleshoot that.
> >
> > So I'm not sure you can make it "easy" for everyone, but you can
> > make it easily approachable.
> >
> > I'm not sure if that helps or hinders?
> >
> > On 12 March 2018 at 11:23, Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I worry that anything that describes itself as a kit doesn't
> > > meet
> > > the fundamental brief of "Tool not Project", when was the
> > > last
> > > time you had to put the plug on your new drill, or glue the
> > > handle
> > > on your new screwdriver?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/03/2018 11:19, Alex Duffield
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > How are you at Lego Sophia? That's the level of
> > > > the assembly instructions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12 Mar 2018 11:07 a.m., "Sophia
> > > > Komninou" <sophia.komninou at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I would like to offer my opinion as someone
> > > > > with no prior experience with 3D printers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to stay for a second to the " kit
> > > > > more likely as it's a hackspace after all"
> > > > > and remind
> > > > > to whoever will get more involved with the
> > > > > decision
> > > > > making that hackspace has a diverse
> > > > > membership and not
> > > > > just computer savvy members. It is also my
> > > > > understanding that this diversity is one of
> > > > > the points
> > > > > we are trying to promote as a "place for
> > > > > all
> > > > > people who like to make stuff". Further, I
> > > > > remember
> > > > > Matt saying at the AGM that what they did
> > > > > in Reading
> > > > > was to "make things as simple as possible"
> > > > > in order to
> > > > > engage more people and create a community.
> > > > > Therefore,
> > > > > how a kit is going to achieve that (unless
> > > > > I guess
> > > > > after assembled works very very simply).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As
> > > > > someone who is not as savvy with the
> > > > > traditional
> > > > > hackspace activities, I would personally
> > > > > want to see a
> > > > > non-intimidating looking 3D printer to be
> > > > > encouraged
> > > > > to try using it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I
> > > > > guess I do get a bit cranky with things
> > > > > like that but
> > > > > I thought I should give my perspective
> > > > > regardless...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sophia
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-03-12 9:09 GMT+00:00 Neil
> > > > > Jones <neil at aurinia.co.uk>:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/03/18 01:14, Alex Duffield wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best bet is hands on experience, I
> > > > > > > can bring it
> > > > > > > tomorrow if you like, bringing my
> > > > > > > signal generator
> > > > > > > so taking a bus anyway
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why don't you just bring it in anyway? It
> > > > > > wouldn't be
> > > > > > the first time someone has brought a 3d
> > > > > > printer in to
> > > > > > show others. Even if we weren't looking
> > > > > > at getting a
> > > > > > new one it would be interesting for
> > > > > > others to see. It
> > > > > > is a cool piece of kit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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