[Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9

Tim Moore timmoore47 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 11 15:08:28 GMT 2013


My wife is ill so delaying it is ok with me, as I can't come.

May I suggest that no location is going to suit everyone so arranging lifts
for any who is struggling ought to be on the agenda for these discussions.

This means that no one is excluded from attending the startup meeting.

Tim,

On 11 March 2013 14:48, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:24:30 +0000
> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
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> Is anyone still planning on meeting up tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or
> shall we rather postpone the first meetup until we can find a more suitable
> location?
>
> On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nope, Monday is their quiz night
> >
> > From: jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> > Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000
> >
> > I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless
> anyone lives near by? :)
> >
> > From: dancraggs at gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
> > Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually seem
> fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can tether I'm
> sure.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion
> and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's a better fit for
> people's transport needs.
> >
> > I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday or
> already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town centre)
> >
> > It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing stopping us
> having several all over town to give everyone a chance to meet up and get
> to know each other before we do any real planning, I don't see that it
> would spell disaster if we can't all make the first one....it's hard to
> pick a universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.
> >
> > From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just
> because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that was made -
> if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)
> >
> > On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000
> > Dan Craggs <dancraggs at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?
> > Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes
> > from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that
> > I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).
> >
> > I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the meeting at
> such  a crazily inaccessible location.
> > It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to NEATH.
> >
> > Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the Open
> Source movement  and who would be an asset to
> > the group cannot attend! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox
> > I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second in command"
> afterLinus Torvalds himself"
> >
> > This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it exists
> today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work over the years in order
> to function.
> >
> > I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE MUST
> organise this to work around central Swansea locations.
> > My concern is if you start biasing it away from people without transport
> then we might find that the Hackspace itself is placed at an inaccessible
> location
> > and that it will fail as a result.
> >
> > Please please can we not assume that everyone has car transport and
> arrange things near motorways so that those with cars and not
> inconvenienced for a few minutes extra driving and those without cars have
> to spend an hour more travelling because of the vagaries of the transport
> system or are put off because they
> > don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.
> >
> > I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:48:19 +0000
> From: Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> I was thinking about it, however having talked to various people who
> were interested all of them are not going due to its location, so
> postponing till we can find a better location might be a sensible idea.
> If only 2 or 3 people are able to make it i suspect there isn't much
> point. Who else is defiantly able to go?
>
> Tim
> On 11/03/2013 14:24, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
> > Is anyone still planning on meeting up tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or
> > shall we rather postpone the first meetup until we can find a more
> > suitable location?
> >
> > On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
> > <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Nope, Monday is their quiz night
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> From: jc2k_1 at hotmail.com <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>
> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> >> Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> >> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000
> >>
> >> I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless
> >> anyone lives near by? :)
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> From: dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> >>
> >> Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually
> >> seem fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can
> >> tether I'm sure.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C<jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
> >> <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>>wrote:
> >>
> >>     No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a
> >>     suggestion and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's
> >>     a better fit for people's transport needs.
> >>
> >>     I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday
> >>     or already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town
> >>     centre)
> >>
> >>     It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing
> >>     stopping us having several all over town to give everyone a
> >>     chance to meet up and get to know each other before we do any
> >>     real planning, I don't see that it would spell disaster if we
> >>     can't all make the first one....it's hard to pick a
> >>     universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>     From:gerrit.niezen at gmail.com <mailto:gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
> >>     Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
> >>     Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000
> >>     To:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> >>
> >>
> >>     I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just
> >>     because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that
> >>     was made - if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)
> >>
> >>     On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
> >>     <mailto:neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:
> >>
> >>             On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000
> >>             Dan Craggs<dancraggs at gmail.com>  <mailto:
> dancraggs at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?
> >>
> >>             Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its
> about 20 minutes
> >>             from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus
> timetable, not that
> >>             I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).
> >>
> >>             I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in
> Swansea 8)
> >>
> >>             Alan
> >>
> >>
> >>         I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the
> >>         meeting at such  a crazily inaccessible location.
> >>         It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to
> >>         NEATH.
> >>
> >>         Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the
> >>         Open Source movement  and who would be an asset to
> >>         the group cannot attend!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox
> >>         I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second
> >>         in command" afterLinus Torvalds
> >>         <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds>himself"
> >>
> >>         This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it
> >>         exists today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work
> >>         over the years in order to function.
> >>
> >>         I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE
> >>         MUST organise this to work around central Swansea locations.
> >>         My concern is if you start biasing it away from people
> >>         without transport then we might find that the Hackspace
> >>         itself is placed at an inaccessible location
> >>         and that it will fail as a result.
> >>
> >>         Please please can we not assume that everyone has car
> >>         transport and arrange things near motorways so that those
> >>         with cars and not inconvenienced for a few minutes extra
> >>         driving and those without cars have to spend an hour more
> >>         travelling because of the vagaries of the transport system or
> >>         are put off because they
> >>         don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.
> >>
> >>         I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30
> >>
> >>         Neil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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