[Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9

ceri clatworthy ceri.clatworthy at gmail.com
Mon Mar 11 15:12:30 GMT 2013


Delay is ok with me too,
 On Mar 11, 2013 3:08 PM, "Tim Moore" <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:

> My wife is ill so delaying it is ok with me, as I can't come.
>
> May I suggest that no location is going to suit everyone so arranging
> lifts for any who is struggling ought to be on the agenda for these
> discussions.
>
> This means that no one is excluded from attending the startup meeting.
>
> Tim,
>
> On 11 March 2013 14:48, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Hackspace first meet 11March (Gerrit Niezen)
>>    2. Re: Hackspace first meet 11March (Tim Clark)
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>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:24:30 +0000
>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
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>> Is anyone still planning on meeting up tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or
>> shall we rather postpone the first meetup until we can find a more suitable
>> location?
>>
>> On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Nope, Monday is their quiz night
>> >
>> > From: jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
>> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> > Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000
>> >
>> > I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless
>> anyone lives near by? :)
>> >
>> > From: dancraggs at gmail.com
>> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000
>> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >
>> > Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually seem
>> fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can tether I'm
>> sure.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a suggestion
>> and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's a better fit for
>> people's transport needs.
>> >
>> > I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday or
>> already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town centre)
>> >
>> > It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing stopping us
>> having several all over town to give everyone a chance to meet up and get
>> to know each other before we do any real planning, I don't see that it
>> would spell disaster if we can't all make the first one....it's hard to
>> pick a universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.
>> >
>> > From: gerrit.niezen at gmail.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000
>> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >
>> >
>> > I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just
>> because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that was made -
>> if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)
>> >
>> > On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:
>> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000
>> > Dan Craggs <dancraggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?
>> > Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its about 20 minutes
>> > from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus timetable, not that
>> > I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this time).
>> >
>> > I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in Swansea 8)
>> >
>> > Alan
>> >
>> > I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the meeting at
>> such  a crazily inaccessible location.
>> > It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to NEATH.
>> >
>> > Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the Open
>> Source movement  and who would be an asset to
>> > the group cannot attend! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox
>> > I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second in command"
>> afterLinus Torvalds himself"
>> >
>> > This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it exists
>> today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work over the years in order
>> to function.
>> >
>> > I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE MUST
>> organise this to work around central Swansea locations.
>> > My concern is if you start biasing it away from people without
>> transport then we might find that the Hackspace itself is placed at an
>> inaccessible location
>> > and that it will fail as a result.
>> >
>> > Please please can we not assume that everyone has car transport and
>> arrange things near motorways so that those with cars and not
>> inconvenienced for a few minutes extra driving and those without cars have
>> to spend an hour more travelling because of the vagaries of the transport
>> system or are put off because they
>> > don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.
>> >
>> > I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30
>> >
>> > Neil
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:48:19 +0000
>> From: Tim Clark <eclipse at sucs.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>> I was thinking about it, however having talked to various people who
>> were interested all of them are not going due to its location, so
>> postponing till we can find a better location might be a sensible idea.
>> If only 2 or 3 people are able to make it i suspect there isn't much
>> point. Who else is defiantly able to go?
>>
>> Tim
>> On 11/03/2013 14:24, Gerrit Niezen wrote:
>> > Is anyone still planning on meeting up tonight at the Halfway Inn? Or
>> > shall we rather postpone the first meetup until we can find a more
>> > suitable location?
>> >
>> > On 8 Mar 2013, at 18:53, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
>> > <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nope, Monday is their quiz night
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: jc2k_1 at hotmail.com <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>
>> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> >> Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> >> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:15:20 +0000
>> >>
>> >> I haven't tried them no, I'll swing by tomorrow after work, unless
>> >> anyone lives near by? :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:19:05 +0000
>> >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> >>
>> >> Did anyone try asking the Rhyddings pub in Brynmill? They usually
>> >> seem fine with little gatherings. No Wi-Fi that I know of, but we can
>> >> tether I'm sure.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >> On 7 March 2013 15:11, J C<jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
>> >> <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     No I certainly don't want to exclude anyone, it was only a
>> >>     suggestion and I'd be more than happy to go elsewhere if there's
>> >>     a better fit for people's transport needs.
>> >>
>> >>     I did ask at a few places but others were either closed on Monday
>> >>     or already had events on (and I don't know that many pubs in town
>> >>     centre)
>> >>
>> >>     It's just an informal meet & greet anyway, there's nothing
>> >>     stopping us having several all over town to give everyone a
>> >>     chance to meet up and get to know each other before we do any
>> >>     real planning, I don't see that it would spell disaster if we
>> >>     can't all make the first one....it's hard to pick a
>> >>     universally convenient spot without knowing where everyone lives.
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>     From:gerrit.niezen at gmail.com <mailto:gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>> >>     Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Hackspace first meet 11March
>> >>     Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:27:06 +0000
>> >>     To:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >>     <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     I wouldn't be happy if anyone felt excluded from the meeting just
>> >>     because of the location. It was just the first suggestion that
>> >>     was made - if anybody has a better alternative, let's hear it! :)
>> >>
>> >>     On 6 Mar 2013, at 23:59, Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
>> >>     <mailto:neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         On 06/03/2013 20:24, Alan Cox wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:53:13 +0000
>> >>             Dan Craggs<dancraggs at gmail.com>  <mailto:
>> dancraggs at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                 Anyone happen to know what bus will go past there then?
>> >>
>> >>             Assuming you actually mean the one in Tallwyn then its
>> about 20 minutes
>> >>             from the Kingsway on the #30 according to the bus
>> timetable, not that
>> >>             I've ever done that trip (nor will I be doing it this
>> time).
>> >>
>> >>             I think a Swansea hackspace probably ought to meet in
>> Swansea 8)
>> >>
>> >>             Alan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         I must protest strongly at the SILLY decision to hold the
>> >>         meeting at such  a crazily inaccessible location.
>> >>         It isn't in Swansea proper but as the name says HALF WAY to
>> >>         NEATH.
>> >>
>> >>         Now we find that Alan Cox who is a world famous figure in the
>> >>         Open Source movement  and who would be an asset to
>> >>         the group cannot attend!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox
>> >>         I quote "He was once commonly regarded as being the "second
>> >>         in command" afterLinus Torvalds
>> >>         <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds>himself"
>> >>
>> >>         This means, to put it clearly, that the modern internet as it
>> >>         exists today, google etc. Is crucially reliant on his work
>> >>         over the years in order to function.
>> >>
>> >>         I myself am doubtful about it because of the poor access. WE
>> >>         MUST organise this to work around central Swansea locations.
>> >>         My concern is if you start biasing it away from people
>> >>         without transport then we might find that the Hackspace
>> >>         itself is placed at an inaccessible location
>> >>         and that it will fail as a result.
>> >>
>> >>         Please please can we not assume that everyone has car
>> >>         transport and arrange things near motorways so that those
>> >>         with cars and not inconvenienced for a few minutes extra
>> >>         driving and those without cars have to spend an hour more
>> >>         travelling because of the vagaries of the transport system or
>> >>         are put off because they
>> >>         don't want to be travelling back on late buses full of drunks.
>> >>
>> >>         I myself live in Neath and the last train is at around 10:30
>> >>
>> >>         Neil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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