[Swansea Hackspace] What next
Neil Jones
neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
Sat Mar 23 18:08:10 GMT 2013
On 12/03/2013 06:09, Tim Moore wrote:
> How about forming a core Agenda , a few ideas:-
The list below was sent some time ago and nothing has happened since.
I agree with the list below. There is a possible item of "where roughly
should we be aiming to have the hackspace."
I also agree with the idea of a meeting with a list of things to be
done. And the word for "Things to be done" in Latin is Agenda :-)
It is fine to have social occasions but as we can see things are not
progressing through an email list and as I have said it is not the
natural way to organise things for humans.
We evolved to have direct communication.
We need to organise a meeting. It needs to be in range of central
Swansea within reasonable walking distance and It either needs to be a
pub WITH A BACK ROOM.
( we can't do this with out a dedicated room) or a proper meeting room.
I know meeting rooms cost, but we could all chip in and it would
probably be less than we paid for drinks in a pub
Neil
>
> 1) Date and time of next meeting.
> 2) Needs for Hackerspace to service. Tools etc
> 3) Funding
> 4) Who does what...
> 5) Ram time at meetings. Anybody can say anything. (Random Access time)
> (sharing technical ideas and needs for a start, limited to 2
> minutes a person)
> etc etc....
>
> Lots more ideas please ! what should 6) be ????
>
> Maybe the list needs editing...
>
> select a Chairman just for the meeting so we can keep to the agreed
> Agenda cos we only have from 8pm to 9.30pm ?
>
> As there are two Tims,
>
> It might be useful to be known as Tim_1 *LOL*
>
> : )
>
> Tim
>
> On 12 March 2013 05:50, <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>> wrote:
>
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> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Location (Neil Jones)
> 2. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 3, Issue 14 (Tim Moore)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:48:44 +0000
> From: Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
> <mailto:neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <513E6D5C.6090202 at nwjones.demon.co.uk
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> On 11/03/2013 22:56, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 19:13 +0000, Tom Lloyd wrote:
> >> Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live, please?
> >> Then we can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> > Brynmill.
> >
> > Would be able to give a lift to others for events.
> >
> > I have kept out of the debate so far as i am unable to attend
> anything
> > this month, maybe next month.
> >
> > Whilst having an informal social to get to know the other people
> may be
> > a thing people want to do, I feel strongly that any kind of
> discussion
> > about making the space happen should be kept strictly to the
> list, so
> > that -everybody- can join in, and we have a record to refer back to.
>
>
> There is a very serious problem with that Justin. The list is
> extremely
> public. People who
> are knowledgeable about the net, and that should include all of
> us, are
> naturally inhibited
> about what they can say on the public internet.
>
> Also can I point out that at some point we are likely to be
> involved in
> commercial negotiations for
> a property lease or something, or possibly applications for money.
>
> Commercial negotiations could be compromised by saying something
> publicly about something.
> Applications for money, likewise. For example, do you remember
> "Agent Sage"?
> For those who don't, he was a crazy bigot who advertised mail order
> brides, told everyone he was a spy and made poisonous comments on
> another list
> that Justin ran. He went off to America and married some kind of
> member
> of the Christian Taliban.
>
> Should a similar person join this list,would you want potential
> landlords or funders to read that and perhaps form
> a conclusion about our group?
>
> It is a natural part of human biology that we world best when we
> interact socially. We have NOT evolved to interact socially
> in an electronic world. If we want to properly succeed we need to base
> that success on how the human mind naturally
> works and not be overly romantically attached to the internet world.
> After all we all live close to each other in global terms.
>
> We have already found how flawed internet discussions are in trying to
> find a time and place to meet. It could give the impression that we
> could not
> organise a bacchanalian orgy in a brewery, which is probably far from
> the truth.
>
> I am quite sure that you will find that successful hackspaces are
> founded on proper face to face interactions outside cyberspace.
>
> Neil
>
> >
> > I have heard a rumour that Noahs Yard in uplands has a room thats
> > available for meetings. Also theres a lot of groups that meet at
> > Mozarts, they have two seperate bars/rooms, so could be worth asking
> > them what nights they have free etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 05:50:01 +0000
> From: Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com <mailto:timmoore47 at gmail.com>>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 3, Issue 14
> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> Message-ID:
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> I live in Llandyfan, halfway between Llandeilo and Ammanford, and pass
> through Pontardawe and junction 45 M4.
>
> Can give a lift to 4 people.
>
> : )
>
> Tim
>
> On 11 March 2013 23:15,
> <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>> wrote:
>
> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Location (Tom Lloyd)
> > 2. RE: Location (J C)
> > 3. Re: Location (Dan Craggs)
> > 4. Re: Location (Justin Mitchell)
> > 5. Re: Location (Neil Jones)
> > 6. Re: Location (Dan Craggs)
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:13:37 +0000
> > From: Tom Lloyd <napalmllama at gmail.com
> <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAF85AwWBuqxGv3Og1brSF01=
> > Ny9tJTg2pAd0ub-zhfiE77MezA at mail.gmail.com
> <mailto:Ny9tJTg2pAd0ub-zhfiE77MezA at mail.gmail.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live,
> please? Then we
> > can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> >
> > Also good to know is whether you're able to pick up others who
> live in your
> > area.
> > To get started: I live in Fforestfach, (near the big Tesco), and
> can give
> > people lifts if they need.
> >
> > --Tom
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:36:29 +0000
> > From: J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>>
> > Subject: RE: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>"
> > <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
> > Message-ID: <SNT002-W14DBFBD1354EF2E411833BF1E10 at phx.gbl>
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> >
> > Does this help any?
> > http://www.zeemaps.com/swansea_hackspace
> > Obviously, just put the marker near enough to where you live to
> allow for
> > picking a suitable middle ground.
> >
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:13:37 +0000
> > From: napalmllama at gmail.com <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> >
> > Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live,
> please? Then we
> > can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> > Also good to know is whether you're able to pick up others who
> live in
> > your area.
> >
> > To get started: I live in Fforestfach, (near the big Tesco), and
> can give
> > people lifts if they need.
> > --Tom
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hackspace mailing list
> > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:39:40 +0000
> > From: Dan Craggs <dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>"
> > <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> >
> CAOoaruRkQe2hqyPaS5hPXCTScFG_2vwFLsPMSsqukMdR-stPHQ at mail.gmail.com
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> > Oh, bra-vo! Good idea. Now, if only it would calculate the
> middle point of
> > us all ;-)
> >
> > On 11 March 2013 19:36, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
> <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Does this help any?
> > >
> > > http://www.zeemaps.com/swansea_hackspace
> > >
> > > Obviously, just put the marker near enough to where you live
> to allow for
> > > picking a suitable middle ground.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:13:37 +0000
> > > From: napalmllama at gmail.com <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > >
> > >
> > > Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live,
> please? Then
> > we
> > > can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> > > Also good to know is whether you're able to pick up others who
> live in
> > > your area.
> > > To get started: I live in Fforestfach, (near the big Tesco),
> and can give
> > > people lifts if they need.
> > > --Tom
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ Hackspace
> mailing list
> > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Hackspace mailing list
> > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > D a n C r a g g s
> >
> > e: dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>
> > e: dan at gfsoft.co.uk <mailto:dan at gfsoft.co.uk>
> > w: http://danc.me.uk
> > w: http://www.plandmusic.co.uk
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:56:42 +0000
> > From: Justin Mitchell <justin at discordia.org.uk
> <mailto:justin at discordia.org.uk>>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID: <1363042602.7979.8.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk
> <mailto:1363042602.7979.8.camel at emerald.geode.org.uk>>
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> > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 19:13 +0000, Tom Lloyd wrote:
> > > Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live, please?
> > > Then we can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> >
> > Brynmill.
> >
> > Would be able to give a lift to others for events.
> >
> > I have kept out of the debate so far as i am unable to attend
> anything
> > this month, maybe next month.
> >
> > Whilst having an informal social to get to know the other people
> may be
> > a thing people want to do, I feel strongly that any kind of
> discussion
> > about making the space happen should be kept strictly to the
> list, so
> > that -everybody- can join in, and we have a record to refer back to.
> >
> > I have heard a rumour that Noahs Yard in uplands has a room thats
> > available for meetings. Also theres a lot of groups that meet at
> > Mozarts, they have two seperate bars/rooms, so could be worth asking
> > them what nights they have free etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:12:59 +0000
> > From: Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
> <mailto:neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk>>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID: <513E64FB.8070703 at nwjones.demon.co.uk
> <mailto:513E64FB.8070703 at nwjones.demon.co.uk>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On 11/03/2013 19:39, Dan Craggs wrote:
> > > Oh, bra-vo! Good idea. Now, if only it would calculate the middle
> > > point of us all ;-)
> >
> > Actually this is NOT a good idea. WE need to meet at a location that
> > everyone can REACH easlily
> > not at some mid point. Since Swansea is a coastal town the mid
> point is
> > going to be somewhere away from the centre.
> > The centre is the easiest point to reach because that is where the
> > public transport hubs are.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 11 March 2013 19:36, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
> <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>
> > > <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does this help any?
> > >
> > > http://www.zeemaps.com/swansea_hackspace
> > >
> > > Obviously, just put the marker near enough to where you
> live to
> > > allow for picking a suitable middle ground.
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:13:37 +0000
> > > From: napalmllama at gmail.com <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>
> <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>>
> > > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
> > > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > >
> > >
> > > Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live,
> please?
> > > Then we can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> > > Also good to know is whether you're able to pick up others who
> > > live in your area.
> > > To get started: I live in Fforestfach, (near the big
> Tesco), and
> > > can give people lifts if they need.
> > > --Tom
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ Hackspace
> mailing
> > > list Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Hackspace mailing list
> > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>>
> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > D a n C r a g g s
> > >
> > > e: dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>
> <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>>
> > > e: dan at gfsoft.co.uk <mailto:dan at gfsoft.co.uk>
> <mailto:dan at gfsoft.co.uk <mailto:dan at gfsoft.co.uk>>
> > > w: http://danc.me.uk
> > > w: http://www.plandmusic.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Hackspace mailing list
> > > Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:15:04 +0000
> > From: Dan Craggs <dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> >
> CAOoaruTR23H3-Oy8OnkDrRDuKZvE8HN-s-GrOpewUqXKenRZ+Q at mail.gmail.com
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> > I wasn't entirely serious with that comment ;-)
> >
> > On 11 March 2013 23:12, Neil Jones <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
> <mailto:neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/03/2013 19:39, Dan Craggs wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh, bra-vo! Good idea. Now, if only it would calculate the
> middle point
> > of
> > > us all ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually this is NOT a good idea. WE need to meet at a
> location that
> > > everyone can REACH easlily
> > > not at some mid point. Since Swansea is a coastal town the mid
> point is
> > > going to be somewhere away from the centre.
> > > The centre is the easiest point to reach because that is where
> the public
> > > transport hubs are.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11 March 2013 19:36, J C <jc2k_1 at hotmail.com
> <mailto:jc2k_1 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Does this help any?
> > >>
> > >> http://www.zeemaps.com/swansea_hackspace
> > >>
> > >> Obviously, just put the marker near enough to where you live
> to allow
> > >> for picking a suitable middle ground.
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:13:37 +0000
> > >> From: napalmllama at gmail.com <mailto:napalmllama at gmail.com>
> > >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Location
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can everyone reply to this saying roughly where they live,
> please? Then
> > >> we can choose somewhere that's in the middle.
> > >> Also good to know is whether you're able to pick up others
> who live in
> > >> your area.
> > >> To get started: I live in Fforestfach, (near the big Tesco),
> and can
> > give
> > >> people lifts if they need.
> > >> --Tom
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________ Hackspace
> mailing list
> > >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Hackspace mailing list
> > >> Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <mailto:Hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > D a n C r a g g s
> > >
> > > e: dancraggs at gmail.com <mailto:dancraggs at gmail.com>
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