[Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4
Tim Moore
timmoore47 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 6 13:32:19 BST 2013
I drive over 20 miles from Llandyfan near Trap/Llandeilo.
Yes, it counts as bringing money into Swansea as I would very rarely
enter Swansea otherwise.
: )))
Tim
On 06/09/2013, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100
> From: Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2
> To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
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> In this paragraph:
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> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people
> might eventually become involved.
>
> I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea Hackspace
> has been meeting....
>
> The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is the
> group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly.
>
> Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could
> include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members
> travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where others
> are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does
> that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol
>
> Best Regards
>
> Graham
>
>
> On 6 September 2013 10:50,
> <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>wrote:
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>> 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or
>> never (Edwin Beggs)
>> 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or
>> never (Gerrit Niezen)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100
>> From: Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version
>> - reply soon or never
>> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the
>> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history
>> of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people
>> propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits,
>> please send urgently.
>>
>> Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace
>> will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the
>> university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for
>> whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui
>> tacet consentit" (silence implies consent).
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> ********************************
>>
>> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially
>> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as
>> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean
>> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university
>> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what
>> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do
>> something with Swansea Council.
>>
>> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science
>> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good -
>> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place?
>> I think so, but you may think of possible problems...
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>>
>> **************************************
>>
>> Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in
>> many cities worldwide (for a world list, see
>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces
>> ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at
>> http://nottinghack.org.uk/
>> ):
>>
>> "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it’s for you.
>> You’ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge
>> of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography,
>> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation,
>> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects."
>>
>> They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by
>> pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their
>> hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts.
>> However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of
>> large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small
>> beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating
>> together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity
>> for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own
>> businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional
>> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and
>> for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's
>> third mission.
>>
>> To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up
>> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote
>> Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government
>> innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could
>> be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places
>> where such activities would fit.
>>
>> Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually
>> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation.
>> He noted that these events were exceptional as a ‘sensemaking’ tool
>> for government, encouraging agencies to “…find groups of people, bring
>> them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then
>> step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the
>> room come together and really take that data and solve things in
>> creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.”
>> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/
>>
>> NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44
>> countries on all 7 continents - See more at:
>> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon
>> In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is:
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving
>>
>> There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation:
>> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page
>> For a list of UK hacker spaces,
>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
>> Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace
>> and Nottingham (listed above)
>>
>> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
>> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
>> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people
>> might eventually become involved.
>>
>> We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker
>> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of
>> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of
>> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best
>> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by
>> its members.
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100
>> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised
>> version - reply soon or never
>> To: Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk>
>> Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
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>> Hi Edwin,
>>
>> Thanks for working on this. A few comments:
>>
>> - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space".
>> We
>> could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace".
>> - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be
>> "Collaborations
>> such as hackerspaces" ?
>> - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next
>> paragraph
>> - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the
>> university.
>> - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link
>> to
>> our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerrit
>>
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the
>> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of
>> the
>> computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a
>> couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send
>> urgently.
>> >
>> > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace will
>> have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university
>> before
>> deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you
>> have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit" (silence
>> implies consent).
>> >
>> > Edwin
>> >
>> > ********************************
>> >
>> > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially
>> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as part
>> of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but
>> it
>> will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third mission
>> is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address
>> here.
>> If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council.
>> >
>> > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science
>> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either
>> edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think
>> so,
>> but you may think of possible problems...
>> >
>> > Edwin
>> >
>> >
>> > **************************************
>> >
>> > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in many
>> cities worldwide (for a world list, see
>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to
>> quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ):
>> >
>> > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it’s for you. You’ll
>> probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of
>> electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography,
>> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation,
>> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects."
>> >
>> > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by pooling
>> resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It
>> encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at
>> the
>> computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and
>> Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a
>> few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space
>> offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set
>> up
>> their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional
>> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for
>> this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third
>> mission.
>> >
>> > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up
>> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris
>> Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on
>> hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any
>> organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities
>> would fit.
>> >
>> > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually
>> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He
>> noted that these events were exceptional as a ‘sensemaking’ tool for
>> government, encouraging agencies to “…find groups of people, bring them
>> together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step out
>> of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come
>> together and really take that data and solve things in creative and
>> imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.”
>> >
>> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/
>> >
>> > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44
>> countries on all 7 continents - See more at:
>> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon
>> > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is:
>> >
>> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving
>> >
>> > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation:
>> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page
>> > For a list of UK hacker spaces,
>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
>> > Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand
>> > Nottingham (listed above)
>> >
>> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and hopes
>> to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without
>> its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might
>> eventually become involved.
>> >
>> > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker
>> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of
>> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of
>> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best
>> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by its
>> members.
>> >
>> > ********************
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