[Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4
Tim Moore
timmoore47 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 6 13:34:52 BST 2013
Also is there a Hackspace meeting this coming Monday ? Its a fortnight
since the last one !
: )))
Tim_1
On 6 September 2013 13:32, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I drive over 20 miles from Llandyfan near Trap/Llandeilo.
>
> Yes, it counts as bringing money into Swansea as I would very rarely
> enter Swansea otherwise.
>
> : )))
>
> Tim
>
> On 06/09/2013, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
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> >
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 (Graham Owens)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100
> > From: Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2
> > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
> > <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> CAJqsN4QMSUaWdDdCfORF-y7UhNjjVTH6svCg4h+mKwxgNAYe7Q at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > In this paragraph:
> >
> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
> > hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
> > without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people
> > might eventually become involved.
> >
> > I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea
> Hackspace
> > has been meeting....
> >
> > The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is
> the
> > group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly.
> >
> > Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could
> > include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members
> > travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where
> others
> > are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does
> > that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Graham
> >
> >
> > On 6 September 2013 10:50,
> > <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>wrote:
> >
> >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
> >> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>
> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>
> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >>
> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or
> >> never (Edwin Beggs)
> >> 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or
> >> never (Gerrit Niezen)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100
> >> From: Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk>
> >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version
> >> - reply soon or never
> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC at swansea.ac.uk>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the
> >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history
> >> of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people
> >> propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits,
> >> please send urgently.
> >>
> >> Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace
> >> will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the
> >> university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for
> >> whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui
> >> tacet consentit" (silence implies consent).
> >>
> >> Edwin
> >>
> >> ********************************
> >>
> >> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially
> >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as
> >> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean
> >> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university
> >> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what
> >> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do
> >> something with Swansea Council.
> >>
> >> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science
> >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good -
> >> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place?
> >> I think so, but you may think of possible problems...
> >>
> >> Edwin
> >>
> >>
> >> **************************************
> >>
> >> Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in
> >> many cities worldwide (for a world list, see
> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces
> >> ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at
> >> http://nottinghack.org.uk/
> >> ):
> >>
> >> "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it’s for you.
> >> You’ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge
> >> of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography,
> >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation,
> >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects."
> >>
> >> They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by
> >> pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their
> >> hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts.
> >> However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of
> >> large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small
> >> beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating
> >> together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity
> >> for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own
> >> businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional
> >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and
> >> for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's
> >> third mission.
> >>
> >> To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up
> >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote
> >> Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government
> >> innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could
> >> be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places
> >> where such activities would fit.
> >>
> >> Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually
> >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation.
> >> He noted that these events were exceptional as a ‘sensemaking’ tool
> >> for government, encouraging agencies to “…find groups of people, bring
> >> them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then
> >> step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the
> >> room come together and really take that data and solve things in
> >> creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.”
> >>
> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/
> >>
> >> NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44
> >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at:
> >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon
> >> In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving
> >>
> >> There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation:
> >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page
> >> For a list of UK hacker spaces,
> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
> >> Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace
> >> and Nottingham (listed above)
> >>
> >> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
> >> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
> >> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people
> >> might eventually become involved.
> >>
> >> We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker
> >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of
> >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of
> >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best
> >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by
> >> its members.
> >>
> >> ********************
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> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100
> >> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised
> >> version - reply soon or never
> >> To: Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk>
> >> Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
> >> Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >>
> >> Hi Edwin,
> >>
> >> Thanks for working on this. A few comments:
> >>
> >> - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space".
> >> We
> >> could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace".
> >> - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be
> >> "Collaborations
> >> such as hackerspaces" ?
> >> - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next
> >> paragraph
> >> - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the
> >> university.
> >> - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link
> >> to
> >> our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Gerrit
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the
> >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of
> >> the
> >> computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a
> >> couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send
> >> urgently.
> >> >
> >> > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace
> will
> >> have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university
> >> before
> >> deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason, you
> >> have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit"
> (silence
> >> implies consent).
> >> >
> >> > Edwin
> >> >
> >> > ********************************
> >> >
> >> > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially
> >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as
> part
> >> of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically, but
> >> it
> >> will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third
> mission
> >> is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address
> >> here.
> >> If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea Council.
> >> >
> >> > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science
> >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either
> >> edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think
> >> so,
> >> but you may think of possible problems...
> >> >
> >> > Edwin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > **************************************
> >> >
> >> > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in
> many
> >> cities worldwide (for a world list, see
> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to
> >> quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/ ):
> >> >
> >> > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it’s for you.
> You’ll
> >> probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of
> >> electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography,
> >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation,
> >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects."
> >> >
> >> > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by
> pooling
> >> resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies. It
> >> encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at
> >> the
> >> computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple and
> >> Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by a
> >> few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space
> >> offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to set
> >> up
> >> their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its
> traditional
> >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for
> >> this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third
> >> mission.
> >> >
> >> > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up
> >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote Chris
> >> Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on
> >> hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any
> >> organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such activities
> >> would fit.
> >> >
> >> > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually
> >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He
> >> noted that these events were exceptional as a ‘sensemaking’ tool for
> >> government, encouraging agencies to “…find groups of people, bring them
> >> together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step
> out
> >> of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come
> >> together and really take that data and solve things in creative and
> >> imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.”
> >> >
> >>
> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/
> >> >
> >> > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44
> >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at:
> >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon
> >> > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is:
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving
> >> >
> >> > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation:
> >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page
> >> > For a list of UK hacker spaces,
> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
> >> > Notable ones are London
> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand
> >> > Nottingham (listed above)
> >> >
> >> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
> hopes
> >> to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage, without
> >> its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might
> >> eventually become involved.
> >> >
> >> > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker
> >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of
> >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of
> >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best
> >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by
> its
> >> members.
> >> >
> >> > ********************
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Hackspace mailing list
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> >> > http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
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