[Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4
Tom Lloyd
napalmllama at gmail.com
Fri Sep 6 13:39:27 BST 2013
Yes, it's a technical meeting this time. I think the plan is to use Dr.
Tim's lab again if he can wangle it.
Tom Lloyd
On 6 September 2013 13:34, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also is there a Hackspace meeting this coming Monday ? Its a fortnight
> since the last one !
>
> : )))
>
> Tim_1
>
>
> On 6 September 2013 13:32, Tim Moore <timmoore47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I drive over 20 miles from Llandyfan near Trap/Llandeilo.
>>
>> Yes, it counts as bringing money into Swansea as I would very rarely
>> enter Swansea otherwise.
>>
>> : )))
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 06/09/2013, hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
>> > hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >
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>> > You can reach the person managing the list at
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>> >
>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> > than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
>> >
>> >
>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 (Graham Owens)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:00:43 +0100
>> > From: Graham Owens <grahamowensuk at googlemail.com>
>> > Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] Re: Hackspace Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2
>> > To: "hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk"
>> > <hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <
>> CAJqsN4QMSUaWdDdCfORF-y7UhNjjVTH6svCg4h+mKwxgNAYe7Q at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> >
>> > In this paragraph:
>> >
>> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
>> > hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
>> > without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people
>> > might eventually become involved.
>> >
>> > I would suggest that that we reword the first sentence to Swansea
>> Hackspace
>> > has been meeting....
>> >
>> > The reason being that its not just a group has been meeting up - it is
>> the
>> > group that the letter is about that meets up fortnightly.
>> >
>> > Also, dont know if it would make much of a difference, but you could
>> > include a note that as the only Hackspace in the area, that some members
>> > travel from other areas to get to the meetings. I do not know where
>> others
>> > are located, but I drive about 12miles to make it to the meetings. Does
>> > that count as bringing money into swansea??? lol
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> >
>> > Graham
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6 September 2013 10:50,
>> > <hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Send Hackspace mailing list submissions to
>> >> hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >>
>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> >> http://stoneship.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hackspace
>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> >> hackspace-request at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >>
>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> >> hackspace-owner at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >>
>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> >> than "Re: Contents of Hackspace digest..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >> 1. University recognition - revised version - reply soon or
>> >> never (Edwin Beggs)
>> >> 2. Re: University recognition - revised version - reply soon or
>> >> never (Gerrit Niezen)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:50:15 +0100
>> >> From: Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk>
>> >> Subject: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised version
>> >> - reply soon or never
>> >> To: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >> Message-ID: <16AB942D-782D-4B48-A164-2B711297D7EC at swansea.ac.uk>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the
>> >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history
>> >> of the computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people
>> >> propose a couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits,
>> >> please send urgently.
>> >>
>> >> Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace
>> >> will have an opportunity to look at any response given by the
>> >> university before deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for
>> >> whatever reason, you have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui
>> >> tacet consentit" (silence implies consent).
>> >>
>> >> Edwin
>> >>
>> >> ********************************
>> >>
>> >> Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially
>> >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as
>> >> part of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean
>> >> practically, but it will hopefully make dealing with the university
>> >> easier! The third mission is about the local economy, and that is what
>> >> I have tried to address here. If this works, maybe we should try to do
>> >> something with Swansea Council.
>> >>
>> >> I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science
>> >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good -
>> >> either edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place?
>> >> I think so, but you may think of possible problems...
>> >>
>> >> Edwin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> **************************************
>> >>
>> >> Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in
>> >> many cities worldwide (for a world list, see
>> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces
>> >> ) which are for (to quote from the Nottingham hacker space at
>> >> http://nottinghack.org.uk/
>> >> ):
>> >>
>> >> "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it’s for you.
>> >> You’ll probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge
>> >> of electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography,
>> >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation,
>> >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects."
>> >>
>> >> They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by
>> >> pooling resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their
>> >> hobbies. It encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts.
>> >> However a look at the computing industry will show that a number of
>> >> large firms (eg. Apple and Google) have grown from very small
>> >> beginnings, and have been set up by a few people collaborating
>> >> together. Collaborations such as hacker space offer the opportunity
>> >> for people to problem solve for industry or to set up their own
>> >> businesses after prototyping new products. With its traditional
>> >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and
>> >> for this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's
>> >> third mission.
>> >>
>> >> To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up
>> >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote
>> >> Chris Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government
>> >> innovation) on hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could
>> >> be held by any organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places
>> >> where such activities would fit.
>> >>
>> >> Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually
>> >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation.
>> >> He noted that these events were exceptional as a ‘sensemaking’ tool
>> >> for government, encouraging agencies to “…find groups of people, bring
>> >> them together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then
>> >> step out of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the
>> >> room come together and really take that data and solve things in
>> >> creative and imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.”
>> >>
>> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/
>> >>
>> >> NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in 44
>> >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at:
>> >> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon
>> >> In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving
>> >>
>> >> There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation:
>> >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page
>> >> For a list of UK hacker spaces,
>> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
>> >> Notable ones are London http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspace
>> >> and Nottingham (listed above)
>> >>
>> >> In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
>> >> hopes to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
>> >> without its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people
>> >> might eventually become involved.
>> >>
>> >> We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker
>> >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of
>> >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of
>> >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best
>> >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by
>> >> its members.
>> >>
>> >> ********************
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>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0100
>> >> From: Gerrit Niezen <gerrit.niezen at gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Swansea Hackspace] University recognition - revised
>> >> version - reply soon or never
>> >> To: Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk>
>> >> Cc: hackspace at swansea.hackspace.org.uk
>> >> Message-ID: <5BAB473E-DA2F-4CBA-91C2-C373C227C421 at gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> >>
>> >> Hi Edwin,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for working on this. A few comments:
>> >>
>> >> - The most commonly used spelling is "hackerspace", not "hacker space".
>> >> We
>> >> could even use the more UK-centric version, "hackspace".
>> >> - "Collaborations such as hacker space" should probably be
>> >> "Collaborations
>> >> such as hackerspaces" ?
>> >> - You say "we quote Chris Vein" but then only quote him in the next
>> >> paragraph
>> >> - We could be more specific about what exactly we want from the
>> >> university.
>> >> - It's "Swansea Hackspace", not "Swansea hacker space". Provide a link
>> >> to
>> >> our official website http://swansea.hackspace.org.uk/
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Gerrit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:50, Edwin Beggs <E.J.Beggs at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Note to this revised version. I have added a sentence about the
>> >> different subjects encompassed by the hackerspace. About the history of
>> >> the
>> >> computer club, I do not know enough to write this. If people propose a
>> >> couple of sentences, I will add them. Any other edits, please send
>> >> urgently.
>> >> >
>> >> > Other than that, I propose to send this version. The hackerspace
>> will
>> >> have an opportunity to look at any response given by the university
>> >> before
>> >> deciding anything. If you do NOT want this sent for whatever reason,
>> you
>> >> have to tell me SOON. As they say in Rome, "Qui tacet consentit"
>> (silence
>> >> implies consent).
>> >> >
>> >> > Edwin
>> >> >
>> >> > ********************************
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi! I am considering trying to get the hackerspace officially
>> >> recognised by the University (or at least the College of Science) as
>> part
>> >> of its third mission. I am not sure what this will mean practically,
>> but
>> >> it
>> >> will hopefully make dealing with the university easier! The third
>> mission
>> >> is about the local economy, and that is what I have tried to address
>> >> here.
>> >> If this works, maybe we should try to do something with Swansea
>> Council.
>> >> >
>> >> > I enclose a possible letter to the Chair of the College of Science
>> >> Third Mission committee - not sent yet. Comments would be good - either
>> >> edits or other things. Is this a good idea in the first place? I think
>> >> so,
>> >> but you may think of possible problems...
>> >> >
>> >> > Edwin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > **************************************
>> >> >
>> >> > Hacker spaces are a diverse collection of societies now present in
>> many
>> >> cities worldwide (for a world list, see
>> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces ) which are for (to
>> >> quote from the Nottingham hacker space at http://nottinghack.org.uk/):
>> >> >
>> >> > "Who is it for? If you like to build, make & learn it’s for you.
>> You’ll
>> >> probably be interested in learning about and sharing knowledge of
>> >> electronics, crafts, robotics, DIY, hardware hacking, photography,
>> >> computing, reverse engineering, prototyping, film making, animation,
>> >> building RC vehicles and other creative challenges and projects."
>> >> >
>> >> > They are a collection of individuals, collaborating together by
>> pooling
>> >> resources and expertise. For many members, it is about their hobbies.
>> It
>> >> encompasses science, engineering, maths and the arts. However a look at
>> >> the
>> >> computing industry will show that a number of large firms (eg. Apple
>> and
>> >> Google) have grown from very small beginnings, and have been set up by
>> a
>> >> few people collaborating together. Collaborations such as hacker space
>> >> offer the opportunity for people to problem solve for industry or to
>> set
>> >> up
>> >> their own businesses after prototyping new products. With its
>> traditional
>> >> reliance on industry, this is doubly important for South Wales, and for
>> >> this purpose it would fall under the remit of the University's third
>> >> mission.
>> >> >
>> >> > To illustrate the increasing emphasis on grassroots or bottom up
>> >> collaborations for innovation even at the highest levels, we quote
>> Chris
>> >> Vein (US deputy Chief Technical Officer for government innovation) on
>> >> hackathons, intensive collaborations. Hackathons could be held by any
>> >> organisation, but hacker spaces are natural places where such
>> activities
>> >> would fit.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris Vein (US deputy CTO for government innovation) has continually
>> >> supported the use of hackathons in developing government innovation. He
>> >> noted that these events were exceptional as a ‘sensemaking’ tool for
>> >> government, encouraging agencies to “…find groups of people, bring them
>> >> together around an issue or problem that needs to be fixed, then step
>> out
>> >> of the way and let the collective energy of the people in the room come
>> >> together and really take that data and solve things in creative and
>> >> imaginative ways that we would never have done ourselves.”
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2012/06/29/the-power-of-hackathons-in-government/
>> >> >
>> >> > NASA itself has held the world's largest hackathon, in 83 cities in
>> 44
>> >> countries on all 7 continents - See more at:
>> >> > http://open.nasa.gov/blog/2013/04/19/worlds-largest-hackathon
>> >> > In the UK, an interesting article on crowdsourcing and innovation is:
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/apr/26/councils-hack-day-geek-squad-problem-solving
>> >> >
>> >> > There is now a hacker space in Cardiff, with its own accommodation:
>> >> http://cardiff.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page
>> >> > For a list of UK hacker spaces,
>> >> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
>> >> > Notable ones are London
>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/London_Hackspaceand
>> >> > Nottingham (listed above)
>> >> >
>> >> > In Swansea a hacker space has been meeting about fortnightly, and
>> hopes
>> >> to obtain a permanent base and its own equipment. At this stage,
>> without
>> >> its own facilities, it is difficult to gauge how many people might
>> >> eventually become involved.
>> >> >
>> >> > We ask that the University consider ways of supporting Swansea hacker
>> >> space. Such help might include advice, awareness raising, donation of
>> >> redundant equipment, etc. Recognition by the University or College of
>> >> Science would be helpful. The hacker space would itself, in the best
>> >> traditions of grassroots organisations, remain independent and run by
>> its
>> >> members.
>> >> >
>> >> > ********************
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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